ThE RaGiNg GaM3R One is many reasons why Dieter is so awesome. I don’t care what people say about the Verge, there’s no doubt in my mind that that man does things right.
No one wants to hear his bragging big deal that's this week next week show work for Payless shoe stores. He doesn't need to tell us every time go get a real job
Its super exciting , the progress that's been made is mindblowing , varjo vr now has life like resolution and theres headsets aiming to have 200 plus degree fov. The technology in the lab now exists to create a vr headset that's indistinguishable from real life , and the big the companies are working quickly to commercialise it . I think that we will exceed the oculus predicitions for 2021 of 140 degrees and 4k. The way things are going we may have 220 degrees and human resolution headset within 6 years. In terms of the compute youd need about 200 tflops for life like graphics considering intels roadmap to put a petaflop on a desktop within the next 5 years, it seems like it will be possible in half a decade.
It reminds me when I saw the Project Natal (Kinect) for the first time. My mind got blowed everytime i thought about when should i put my hands on it :D
I am a Ph.D. in computational chemistry. I see so many possibilities in building molecules, crystals etc. and understanding the reaction mechanism. There are tonnes of possibilities.
Do you wonder in virtual reality might be a better place to do it. The HoloLens is very expensive because maps and identifies things in the real world. Virtual reality is far cheaper and more immersive. I'm excited about the HoloLens, but it might not be perfect for everything.
As others have suggested, a mix of VR and gesture tracking (Leap or Kinect2, etc) may be better - as well as being a much cheaper solution, multiple people can view the same model without being in the same room etc (you just set up a 'shared' virtual room. There are already apps for existing headsets that support 4 people in a single room, and working on a projected windows desktop, etc.
I could see this being incredibly helpful for teaching medical students practicing surgery. It could potentially provide near-immediate feedback on what they are doing, show them areas they may not have been focusing on enough, and more!
Especially since teachers and trainers can use it to see exactly what the student is trying to look at and do. It's pretty dang cool. For me the medical imaging uses immediately pop to mind. Being able to take a scan of a patient, then overlaying that on the surgical table to guide precise action. Combine it with smart technology and you can track the progress of a camera sensor or have the CT scan of the liver abscess exactly indicated on the body.
Microsoft is best tech company right now when apple is falling for no innovation and Amazon criticized for employees and Facebook and Google for privacy Microsoft is at the right place at right time
Still too expensive, bulky and lacking consumer applications, but the military funding should speed up development and make a consumer product possible sooner.
I love how Microsoft don't follow the actual trends of technology because they're always thinking ahead of our time, that's why they still relevant in 2019, despite not having a poweful smarthpohone or a popular mobile os. Put some respect on Microsoft!
They failed in Xbox back in 2013... Phil Spencer is working on making Xbox better, unfortunately it takes a lot of time as the damage was to big. They founded a new game studio and bought a few more, so games are coming, we only have to wait. It’s Microsoft’s job to maintain Xbox relevant in the meantime.
I can see in another 10 years that we'll have big empty rooms with cameras and HoloLens on your head just living your dream life in that big empty room. Sound scary really.
I don't think so, but that's my opinion. What you're describing would be a place for Virtual reality...where reality is covered up, and something else is presented. Virtual reality is way cheaper than augmented reality for empty room situations. Augmented reality (which is what the HoloLens is great at) is meant to add to a reality you're in. It can display data to you about objects that exist in your view. This is far more expensive and complicated than virtual reality. If you want to show someone a 3D heart that they can take apart and see all the different parts, virtual reality is way cheaper and easier because your environment isn't required to see the heart. If you want to see the result of a scan overlayed on the patient before or during surgery, since you want to still see the patient, you want augmented reality. Because virtual reality is cheaper, easier, and more immersive, I'd always recommend using virtual reality, and only move to augmented reality when you need the environment present. Another example: A home design would be best in Virtual reality Interior design or home remodel could gain a lot from augmented reality
Juston Cheney Thank you for clarifying that. Yes, I know that augmented reality will be useful for carpenters, plumbers, auto mechanics, auto body, and the medical field. It will be neat if the technology is incorporated into workplaces.
I'm a UX designer and make use of multiple screens when working. Definitely a tool that would save a lot of space on the work-desk, allow commuter work on trains and planes and just be a more user friendly device than a screen.
This is a lot more exciting than foldable phone. Imagine turning blank walls around your house into screens, or tables from a restaurant / coffee shop.
Every new technology is greatly overestimated, and then greatly underestimated. VR and AR are far from dead! They are just expanding into their use cases. This is a great example of what's happening in the background, which many people still consider to be failed tech. Thanks, Dieter! If you're interested in what's happening in VR there are so many creative and crazy developers on Twitter you can find! All are worth a follow.
The biggest issue is cost, and introducing the tech to consumers. It's hard for people to really know what VR/AR is about without putting the headset on.
I'm a heavy truck technician and a large amount of my time is spent on a laptop connected to a truck. I could see this being helpful. Running diagnostics test, watching live data,having a wiring diagram or trouble shooting steps accessible while working. If it wasn't for the price tag I would be interested in giving it a shot. It's not a necessity at the moment.
Im gonna buy one, when they come out. I want to play with some concepts. I don't own a business, but I hope they do give a option on the website to buy it for the $3,500. If not, I will just register a business name to just buy it. I'm a driver in the truck industry, and I think this could be useful for when doing inspections/pre-trips on a semi truck to make operations safer. I will definitely be getting my hands on one of these devices.
Very nice introduction. I am a faculty from radiation oncology, Johns Hopkins Hospital. We are planning to use this technology to help our patient to get comfortable for the radiation therapy for cancer treatment.
@@GunnarWilkerson Well, you can't even speak to a Magic Leap. And also, the movements and recognition of things such as your hands are much faster and more smooth that the Magic Leap. Thirdly, the Hololens is way more powerful and has a lot more features since it's a real computer, which Magic Leap isn't. For example, you can't go browsing on a Magic Leap
@@GunnarWilkerson What are you talking about.. You're completely underselling the HoloLens 2. Did you watch the actual presentation? The FOV difference is probably closer to 20 degrees. It has far better resolution (as in usable pixel density). It has the retinal scanning and eye tracking. It has physical interaction and manipulation. It has the integration of the cloud and enterprise. And, from this video, it seems like IQ and tracking are still best in class. If anything, Magic Leap was slightly better than HoloLens 1 and was released 2 years out. I don't mind if you prefer using the Magic Leap, but downplaying the advancements of this tech is crazy.
As a matter of fact, I do not. And I do not like apple either. But your comment... I've seen it 10000 times. It was just a piece of advice. P.S. samsung>apple
The Hololens is most likely still superior for commercial applications, as with the Vision Pro, you are looking at a screen displaying a camera feed. Meanwhile the Hololens is completely clear/seethrough that actually shows the real world without any cameras And although I bet the cameras on the Vision Pro are really good, no camera can compare to actually seeing the real world authentically
I’m a project planner and I can definitely see a use for this: various components tagged with stats, delivery requirements, timelines, etc. and being able to show relationships between them in 3D, assemble a project schedule, risks, and so on.
I would love to test this out in a mining environment. It would be very interesting to see if you could help workers quickly visualize large scale projects with a tool like this, i.e. where to dump material, how to construct dumps, where to start digging, what a road should look like when completed, etc.
One of the first AR cases I saw was at Boeing for the people who did the cable sets - that was like 20 years ago. AR is awesome for industry - Teamviewer uses it for Network management. So the IT guy who has to re-configure a patch pannel will have the AR show him which cables to work on.
Yes, in traditional engineering applications - such as machines or a section of a plant. Perhaps a holo lens can ship with our manufactured products. The Hololens can then be used for two out of a number of other things: 1. To quickly understand the internal composition of the machine (typically what engineering drawings are supposed to be used for) 2. To identify faults - comparing the original machine status to the current. (Something like a scanner if the Holo Lens can be equipped with such). In both applications the Holo Lens will greatly speed up operational and maintenance activities and can avoid unnecessary overhauls. A third application can be for training which is also already being accomplished in virtual reality applications.
I think that Microsoft is in the right path here: e.g. construction workers would benefit a lot from the fact that you have the calculator, linear, drawings and instructions all there in the screen. No more weird places for the toilet seat because the Plummer can see directly without measuring where the toilet seat should be installed.
As soon as someone makes software that EVERYONE wants, then yeah, $200 is doable. If they are greedy, they will stay in the $1000 range, but that just opens the door to your competitors. When you have stuff people want, your competitors see this too, and if you are expensive, they have an in. Just make it cheap and you control the market. But you need the software that people want FIRST!
This would be awesome for auto diagnosis and repair, having hands free access to info would save valuable time. Also, depending on how accurate the spacial awareness, it would awesome to see heads up data by just looking at the vehicle.
I think one great use case would be for furnishing companies to showcase their products right in people's homes and people could try different combinations of furniture in their own living spaces.
Some of the best use cases are likely going to be where the business buys the headset rather than the consumer. A company that handles remodels could use this to help you see what they're thinking. High end interior designers. Cabnet makers. I think for the most part, it will be people doing, more than people showing that will be using this product.
I know you tried to show the FOV difference in the video, but can this also be translated to estimates in degrees? Also, how does it compare to magic leap in terms of tracking and visual fidelity?
@@TheFabioScope I am not lucky enough to get my hands on it for now ^^ But as it is a professionnal product you can imagine that they don't used the specs as some sort of publicity, if it's 2k per eye that probably means everything will be in focus without sweet spot because if not why do you need 2k resolution...
John theux yeah, true. They didn’t announce any fov specs for hololens 1 back then, either. Also, I’m wondering if they use the cam on the inside for some sort of eye tracking or even foveated rendering. Having tried HL1 and ML1, I’m really looking forward to getting hands on this!
In addition to the $3500 will companies need to design custom software for their use case? I can't imagine Microsoft is rolling out medical, architecture and design software along with it
Yep, watch the MWC presentation. They've partnered with a bunch of devs to make it easy to use the HoloLens 2 for that specific use case with a minimum of building your own application. They absolutely are rolling out medical, architecture, and design software - it's just that it's all 3rd party built. Which is the point.
Human Anatomy Atlas have already developed an app that can work with AR in order to teach anatomy , and for a matter of fact a lot of ppl in my anatomy classes use it and it's amazing
If this thing could run a really time excel spread that you can just have a number pad appear to push with your hands. It will be incredibly useful for inputting data from the field or worksite.
Mind blowing product, definitely will help even for technicians such as AC workers, auto repair or even similar trades, how? By interacting with your own coworker, superviser etc or more experienced technician in real virtual life and get the job done..
I work at lot of electronics prototyping and I have to put laptop next to SMD/Sodering Station. and constant flip my head here and there. MR producrts like this can be a game changer and saves lot of time.
Seeing products from an internet shop in real size and form through HoloLens would really help. Sometimes it's hard to say what you're buying but if you could "touch" it and see all the details, and possibly, disassemble and see the components to make sure you want the product... this would be revolutionary!
I mean, one of its big selling points was that you could play Minecraft on it, and that was like 2-3 years ago, now they’re moving away from that, little disappointing but I guess they’re still working out the kinks ._.
I wouldn't call that a selling point... No one they were actually selling HoloLens to was planning to actually play Minecraft on their $3000-$5000 face computer. But it was a useful way of hyping up the imagination and teasing the possibilities of the tech, as Dieter mentioned. Smart.
This is why consumers are just useless, get a $3000 computer and you want to play games (I think Microsoft is right not to market to the silly imaginations of consumers)
@@noaht7383 All right calm down, no need to get on some high horse over a comment. I'd think a big head like you would have better thinks to do then find something to be mad about (-_-)
@@noaht7383 the silly imagination of consumers? Like 70% of the stuff you own was made by someone who was at some point a consumer who just wanted a better product. Have you ever heard how since 3d printer are so cheap now consumer make there own models for people with missing limbs. It a cheap affordable alternative to people who may not have the money for a professional prosthetic. It was also thought of by the consumer.
I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if this split like the Surface line did. The first iterations were all Surface Pro, then we got Surface Book, Surface Studio, and Surface Laptop. This is currently very niche, and they have a great opportunity to make some money and grow the product a lot for an audience with very clear needs that have money to spend and a LOT of people to serve. I think in an iteration or two, the price will come down and it won't be nearly as niche and there will be multiple options. The enterprise market really trusts Microsoft and has a lot of money to spend, so they are a easier first audience.
I think for consumers it doesn't solve any problems but for 1st line workers it's solving a real problem (access to a computer without hindering the job at hand)
@Zack Smith evidence? How do you define "fail"? Is it a fail that hololens was in space? Were you in space? Is it a fail that nearly every company that tryed it, signed a contract with Microsoft , and improved the device over the past years with them providing feedback and bringing hololens 2 to life? This is everything but a fail.
@Zack Smith same was said about device through which you have written this comment in its early stage. Hololens 1 was more of a concept. Disruptive product need time, lots of improvement during their life cycle. Just look at first mobile and current mobile phones. over time hardware will improve, better battery, larger FOV, sophisticated sensors will make Hololoens a consumer device.
I can see how this would be really helpful for someone that does a lot of 3D modeling. Like how you can use your hands to move what your modeling around
Nadella clearly one of the smartest/wisest tech CEOs out there. Microsoft gaining much valuable experience actually having real people using HoloLens in the field, while not creeping out individual consumers like Google Glass did. Plenty of use cases.
I'm an assembly technician working for a defensive contractor in the bay area...and I can assure you, this would be great in my work.... however it would never happen for one simple fact... Security!
Most of the things that are being shown off seem like they could be pulled off by VR as well, so the only real applications I can see of this would be as a HUD for doctors, and for training for soldiers (which as far as I'm aware is the main way it's normally used for). When the tech gets cheaper, maybe soldiers could find use for it in the field. Engineering stuff seems like it would be just as easily pulled off by some autocad like application in VR, which is way cheaper right now with WMR headsets going for $200
As a mechanic this would be awesome, if you where to see a hologram of something of how it’s suppose to be put together on the car itself, it would make putting stuff back together sooooo much easier.
I really like this concept and i think this has the biggest potential for future consumer product. Imagine a smartglass that is just as small as regular glass, connect to your phone via bluetooth. The front layer of glass are transparent OLED and neutral density filter that is adjustable for AR/VR mode. Meanwhile the back layer is just regular lens that fits to your eye condition. Putting an eye tracking sensor to navigate (inside the glass) and motion sensor + camera in the outside to sense hand movement. The sound will be transmitted via vibration from the hinge.
I'm a music producer and I imagine having a daw with mixed reality where you're like sticking blocks together and turning knobs and stuff, will be epic
imagine a real life battle royale with this, with a rendered ring, health hud, and weapons that fired not actual projectiles but rendered in bolts of energy. Combine it with haptic feedback and you got urself an enterprise.
this would make designing cars and homes and really any object an amazing experience. I can see CAD software being developed just for MR along with the hand movements... also using it to scan 3d objects, create a mesh and modify from there... I look forward to having a go at it.
As a software engineer I don’t have *as* much use of it compared to engineers etc, but I can imagine how handy it’ll be to simply have floating chrome browsers everywhere…
It's a big improvement from the first HoloLens, but I want to see some of this tech make it's way to home windows and mirrors. There are some smart-mirrors available, but a window projecting the weather and overlaying it on the outside world would be neat. Of course turning a window in a video screen would be neat too. If there was a way to make it so the display could only be seen from the inside, I'd be interested in that tech.
Dude!! This would be of immense help in shipping industry!! I'm a marine engineer and having something like this onboard to help us in overhauling and maintenance jobs would be a blessing!!
This would be amazing for jobs such as aircraft mechanic's. Aircraft electricians usually are constantly referencing wire diagrams while troubleshooting problems, this would enable them to have the diagrams integrated with what they are looking at. Amazing potential!
Do you think you could use the HoloLens 2 in your job?
Yes I could watch a lot of movies 😀
LOL
yes. #harshitjain
Big time but I Don't want to say here
Absolutely Awesome..!
Yes, it could be perfect if they developed some thing with solidworks or autocad :3
I really like and respect how he disclosed that info about his wife, good man
Can this comment get 10k likes?
I missed that part, what did he say or at what minute?
@@abdou023 Right in the beginning he disclosed that his wife is employed by Oculus.
ThE RaGiNg GaM3R One is many reasons why Dieter is so awesome. I don’t care what people say about the Verge, there’s no doubt in my mind that that man does things right.
No one wants to hear his bragging big deal that's this week next week show work for Payless shoe stores. He doesn't need to tell us every time go get a real job
Microsoft : Here's HoloLens 2
Brazzers : Yo team we got work to do
LMFAO!!!!
The possibilities. 🍑
Brazzers: hmm Blade runner 2049
@@pumpuppthevolume you mean 2069
the military got em first
The average worker: propulsion jet repair technician
Yeah, that's truly an average worker.
Military
xDD
Pays $9/hr. in the future with this device.
yes .. thats pretty much me altho the official title is aviation engineer.
I'm 21 and em so excited what my children will see and get in their 20s. This is just a amazing and mindblowing start.
Too bad the world will be in shambles by then.
You are making me feel old.😑
Its super exciting , the progress that's been made is mindblowing , varjo vr now has life like resolution and theres headsets aiming to have 200 plus degree fov. The technology in the lab now exists to create a vr headset that's indistinguishable from real life , and the big the companies are working quickly to commercialise it . I think that we will exceed the oculus predicitions for 2021 of 140 degrees and 4k. The way things are going we may have 220 degrees and human resolution headset within 6 years. In terms of the compute youd need about 200 tflops for life like graphics considering intels roadmap to put a petaflop on a desktop within the next 5 years, it seems like it will be possible in half a decade.
It reminds me when I saw the Project Natal (Kinect) for the first time. My mind got blowed everytime i thought about when should i put my hands on it :D
sprdvx Why you say that? You don’t believe in utopia?
Iron man tech in our hands by 2025 confirmed.
2030-nano tech
nano machines son
Guaranteed more like 2021 or 2022, trust me if they can make this cost only $1000 imagine it replacing the smartphone
@@dethcubegaming1556 exactly
Dude, US fighter jet Helmets basically have all the tech of an Iron Man helmet. I'm not even kidding, look it up!
Microsoft : heres holo lens
10 yrs later
Apple : Behold , the first holographic lens , *ilens*
iSight
iVision
iView
iEye
Apple: Behold, the first holographic lens that you'll want.
I am a Ph.D. in computational chemistry. I see so many possibilities in building molecules, crystals etc. and understanding the reaction mechanism. There are tonnes of possibilities.
Do you wonder in virtual reality might be a better place to do it. The HoloLens is very expensive because maps and identifies things in the real world. Virtual reality is far cheaper and more immersive. I'm excited about the HoloLens, but it might not be perfect for everything.
vr + leap motion
As others have suggested, a mix of VR and gesture tracking (Leap or Kinect2, etc) may be better - as well as being a much cheaper solution, multiple people can view the same model without being in the same room etc (you just set up a 'shared' virtual room. There are already apps for existing headsets that support 4 people in a single room, and working on a projected windows desktop, etc.
@@justoncheney7172 it depends on if you need to do everything in software or if you actually need to be looking at whatever your working on
It's close, but not there yet. If it were, everyone would know.
I could see this being incredibly helpful for teaching medical students practicing surgery. It could potentially provide near-immediate feedback on what they are doing, show them areas they may not have been focusing on enough, and more!
Also inherently a built in splatter shield.
You don’t say
Especially since teachers and trainers can use it to see exactly what the student is trying to look at and do. It's pretty dang cool. For me the medical imaging uses immediately pop to mind. Being able to take a scan of a patient, then overlaying that on the surgical table to guide precise action. Combine it with smart technology and you can track the progress of a camera sensor or have the CT scan of the liver abscess exactly indicated on the body.
Cyrribrae yes we get it you think ur smart but he already said and showed that
It's used that way in an episode of good doctor
Microsoft is best tech company right now when apple is falling for no innovation and Amazon criticized for employees and Facebook and Google for privacy
Microsoft is at the right place at right time
Yeah apple changed from an innovative tech company to a luxury company I think.
Yeah but they r failing in the gaming industry especially in the console area
Especially in the mobile phone market right
Oh wait
@@Klau92 nope...wait till june...amazing consoles coming up.
Amazon will not be criticized anymore soon enough when they will get rid of all their employes xD
Here after Vision Pro launch and reviews. And man was this thing impressive.
Disappointed that this still isn’t sold to consumers. Still a damn impressive machine though.
Mateo Alanis The problem is, as soon as they do sell it to consumers, they’ll complain that it’s too expensive 🤷♂️
I tried the first one... Its really not ready for consumers. It field of view was to small and its battery life is short.
@@Johanneslol11 This one has more than 2 times the FOV of the first one, 500 nits of brightness and 2k resolution per eye!
too expensive, give it 5 to 7 years.
Still too expensive, bulky and lacking consumer applications, but the military funding should speed up development and make a consumer product possible sooner.
I love how Microsoft don't follow the actual trends of technology because they're always thinking ahead of our time,
that's why they still relevant in 2019, despite not having a poweful smarthpohone or a popular mobile os.
Put some respect on Microsoft!
samuel ramos ok
They can profit and still innovate without the MOBILEMOBILEMOBILEMOBILEMOBILE trash trend of other companies
Yep
@Victor Greenwood Not actually. Xbox is fine. But they have failed in making smartphones.
They failed in Xbox back in 2013... Phil Spencer is working on making Xbox better, unfortunately it takes a lot of time as the damage was to big.
They founded a new game studio and bought a few more, so games are coming, we only have to wait. It’s Microsoft’s job to maintain Xbox relevant in the meantime.
Your wife works for oculus?
Weird flex but ok
That's a disclaimer.
@@dreamdiscounts whoosh
He himself is a senior editor at the verge, I don't think he needs to flex about his wife
@@bruh-fn5dh what's Verge
@@andieznutz6438 you're watching it douchebeg. Don't act so smart, you come out as a jackass. Also who tf are you?
I understand what Microsoft is trying to de here. And it's really impressive
I can see in another 10 years that we'll have big empty rooms with cameras and HoloLens on your head just living your dream life in that big empty room. Sound scary really.
It is going to be like the “Ready Player One” movie or the scene where the guy needs help in the movie “Upgrade”.
I don't think so, but that's my opinion. What you're describing would be a place for Virtual reality...where reality is covered up, and something else is presented. Virtual reality is way cheaper than augmented reality for empty room situations. Augmented reality (which is what the HoloLens is great at) is meant to add to a reality you're in. It can display data to you about objects that exist in your view. This is far more expensive and complicated than virtual reality. If you want to show someone a 3D heart that they can take apart and see all the different parts, virtual reality is way cheaper and easier because your environment isn't required to see the heart. If you want to see the result of a scan overlayed on the patient before or during surgery, since you want to still see the patient, you want augmented reality.
Because virtual reality is cheaper, easier, and more immersive, I'd always recommend using virtual reality, and only move to augmented reality when you need the environment present.
Another example:
A home design would be best in Virtual reality
Interior design or home remodel could gain a lot from augmented reality
Juston Cheney Thank you for clarifying that. Yes, I know that augmented reality will be useful for carpenters, plumbers, auto mechanics, auto body, and the medical field. It will be neat if the technology is incorporated into workplaces.
This is now, already. VR headsets are here and cheap.
Could be a Black mirror episode lol
I am waiting when this will be used in engineering and medical school to teach students more practically and obviously that will be real fun .
Lol that's a long shot, 3500 dollars is a lot more money than universities in India are willing to pay just for technology
@@HarshvardhanKanthode kinda right you are
@@shuvojyotirakshit2300 I think that may happen in 10-20 years.
What a great day for tech news! new foldable phones, microsoft, and probably more....
maybe because it's MWC 2019?
@@ldf-oros-kesa what conference is mwc?
Carritube mobile world congress
@@richie74wells oh alright thank you, I figured out a bit after 😅
And now we've got the Apple Vision Pro
I never realised this, but this technology can revitalise and revolutionise the theatre experience.
I mean, really change it.. It could be amazing
Am I thinking what your thinking?
Things are about to change
Technology is always changing, what's new ?? Oh wait... lol
again
6 months later... nothing has changed
I'm a UX designer and make use of multiple screens when working. Definitely a tool that would save a lot of space on the work-desk, allow commuter work on trains and planes and just be a more user friendly device than a screen.
This is a lot more exciting than foldable phone. Imagine turning blank walls around your house into screens, or tables from a restaurant / coffee shop.
3500USD
Every new technology is greatly overestimated, and then greatly underestimated.
VR and AR are far from dead! They are just expanding into their use cases. This is a great example of what's happening in the background, which many people still consider to be failed tech. Thanks, Dieter!
If you're interested in what's happening in VR there are so many creative and crazy developers on Twitter you can find! All are worth a follow.
The biggest issue is cost, and introducing the tech to consumers. It's hard for people to really know what VR/AR is about without putting the headset on.
Please list a few.
Nathan Lewis agree
This needs to be used in universities for medical students and engineers etc...
I'm a heavy truck technician and a large amount of my time is spent on a laptop connected to a truck. I could see this being helpful. Running diagnostics test, watching live data,having a wiring diagram or trouble shooting steps accessible while working. If it wasn't for the price tag I would be interested in giving it a shot. It's not a necessity at the moment.
*SAO: ORDINAL SCALE*
Finally, someone got the usecase right!!
you need more likes, this must be our first priorities!
We need to sit some Microsoft Execs down and make them watch Ordinal Scale. I don't think they understand the gold mine they are sitting on.
Im gonna buy one, when they come out. I want to play with some concepts. I don't own a business, but I hope they do give a option on the website to buy it for the $3,500. If not, I will just register a business name to just buy it. I'm a driver in the truck industry, and I think this could be useful for when doing inspections/pre-trips on a semi truck to make operations safer. I will definitely be getting my hands on one of these devices.
Now consumers can buy The Hololens 2 for $ 3,500 on the Official Microsoft website.
Hololens 2
2019 : 3,500$
2038 : 35$
350 maybe
It's possible.
The laptops used to cost 2k dollars 3 decades ago 🤔
Very nice introduction. I am a faculty from radiation oncology, Johns Hopkins Hospital. We are planning to use this technology to help our patient to get comfortable for the radiation therapy for cancer treatment.
Magic Leap cannot be HAPPY about this.
@@GunnarWilkerson Well, you can't even speak to a Magic Leap. And also, the movements and recognition of things such as your hands are much faster and more smooth that the Magic Leap. Thirdly, the Hololens is way more powerful and has a lot more features since it's a real computer, which Magic Leap isn't. For example, you can't go browsing on a Magic Leap
@@GunnarWilkerson What are you talking about.. You're completely underselling the HoloLens 2. Did you watch the actual presentation? The FOV difference is probably closer to 20 degrees. It has far better resolution (as in usable pixel density). It has the retinal scanning and eye tracking. It has physical interaction and manipulation. It has the integration of the cloud and enterprise. And, from this video, it seems like IQ and tracking are still best in class.
If anything, Magic Leap was slightly better than HoloLens 1 and was released 2 years out. I don't mind if you prefer using the Magic Leap, but downplaying the advancements of this tech is crazy.
FOV is around 70°
@@Maxzor11 It's 52°. Try again.
@ye Lu, i stand corrected
All we wanted is to YT play music in background...
Just keep copying cliché comments, maybe one day you will get more than 10 likes.
@@nicolasgiaconia8051 oh so u hav apple music subscription
As a matter of fact, I do not.
And I do not like apple either.
But your comment... I've seen it 10000 times.
It was just a piece of advice.
P.S. samsung>apple
Plebs without CZcams Vanced lol
@@nicolasgiaconia8051 i was just reminding them wat all of want
Wow, I thought the devices were comparable but the Vision Pro blows this out of the water.
The Hololens is most likely still superior for commercial applications, as with the Vision Pro, you are looking at a screen displaying a camera feed. Meanwhile the Hololens is completely clear/seethrough that actually shows the real world without any cameras
And although I bet the cameras on the Vision Pro are really good, no camera can compare to actually seeing the real world authentically
I’m a project planner and I can definitely see a use for this: various components tagged with stats, delivery requirements, timelines, etc. and being able to show relationships between them in 3D, assemble a project schedule, risks, and so on.
as an electrician i can think of a vast amount of things this could be used to do, to speed up my day to day tasks
I would love to test this out in a mining environment. It would be very interesting to see if you could help workers quickly visualize large scale projects with a tool like this, i.e. where to dump material, how to construct dumps, where to start digging, what a road should look like when completed, etc.
Here to bring up the hololens exists after the Apple vision pro announcement
One of the first AR cases I saw was at Boeing for the people who did the cable sets - that was like 20 years ago. AR is awesome for industry - Teamviewer uses it for Network management. So the IT guy who has to re-configure a patch pannel will have the AR show him which cables to work on.
From the window to the wall!! 2:51.
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I think it can be used in engineering and medical schools to separate out components and see functioning or design parts etc
Yeah the good point of 3d is that you can see objects inside other objects because in 2d it doen't make sense.
I hope we'll fight SAO boss with Yuna
Can't wait for the first AR/MRMMO!
Yes, in traditional engineering applications - such as machines or a section of a plant. Perhaps a holo lens can ship with our manufactured products. The Hololens can then be used for two out of a number of other things: 1. To quickly understand the internal composition of the machine (typically what engineering drawings are supposed to be used for) 2. To identify faults - comparing the original machine status to the current. (Something like a scanner if the Holo Lens can be equipped with such). In both applications the Holo Lens will greatly speed up operational and maintenance activities and can avoid unnecessary overhauls. A third application can be for training which is also already being accomplished in virtual reality applications.
*but can you use the hololens to watch videos exposing your how-to-build-a-computer tutorial?*
I think that Microsoft is in the right path here: e.g. construction workers would benefit a lot from the fact that you have the calculator, linear, drawings and instructions all there in the screen. No more weird places for the toilet seat because the Plummer can see directly without measuring where the toilet seat should be installed.
still waiting for the first version to drop to $200
Lmao 200?!?!? Good luck
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1000$ would be already a very good price. I was expecting Hololens2 at that price.
One word : CHINA .... God knows if it wasn't for China , Western tech companies would never sell cheap tech .
As soon as someone makes software that EVERYONE wants, then yeah, $200 is doable. If they are greedy, they will stay in the $1000 range, but that just opens the door to your competitors. When you have stuff people want, your competitors see this too, and if you are expensive, they have an in. Just make it cheap and you control the market. But you need the software that people want FIRST!
This would be awesome for auto diagnosis and repair, having hands free access to info would save valuable time. Also, depending on how accurate the spacial awareness, it would awesome to see heads up data by just looking at the vehicle.
They said the first one was centimeter accuracy and this one is millimeter accuracy.
Now , were are gonna make ordinal scale from Sword Art On-
*Microsoft* nope we already made it ;)
I think one great use case would be for furnishing companies to showcase their products right in people's homes and people could try different combinations of furniture in their own living spaces.
Some of the best use cases are likely going to be where the business buys the headset rather than the consumer. A company that handles remodels could use this to help you see what they're thinking. High end interior designers. Cabnet makers.
I think for the most part, it will be people doing, more than people showing that will be using this product.
you can do that with VR already just fine
I know you tried to show the FOV difference in the video, but can this also be translated to estimates in degrees? Also, how does it compare to magic leap in terms of tracking and visual fidelity?
2k per eye of resolution.
John theux I meant more from a subjective perception :)
@@TheFabioScope I am not lucky enough to get my hands on it for now ^^ But as it is a professionnal product you can imagine that they don't used the specs as some sort of publicity, if it's 2k per eye that probably means everything will be in focus without sweet spot because if not why do you need 2k resolution...
John theux yeah, true. They didn’t announce any fov specs for hololens 1 back then, either. Also, I’m wondering if they use the cam on the inside for some sort of eye tracking or even foveated rendering. Having tried HL1 and ML1, I’m really looking forward to getting hands on this!
Apparently around 70 degrees fov (so basically around 2x more than HL1)
How compact it is is actually stunning.
What happened to Google glass lol
Dead
This can also be used by interior designers
If this works. You can kiss universities good bye. And home schooling will be notm
I have a homeschooled phd.
@@TallDude404 a PhD in what may I ask?
until Minecraft is available
@@ahmedmaniyaruni4300 Home Economics
Henri homeschooled PhD lmao
I want 4k 120fps for each eye or 8k 60fps for each eye and 180 degrees to 360 degrees of field of view (FOV).
In addition to the $3500 will companies need to design custom software for their use case? I can't imagine Microsoft is rolling out medical, architecture and design software along with it
why not? you just do it once, then you can sell software to many companies.
@@ldf-oros-kesa because each use case is very specific, I don't think it's a one-size-fits-all situation
watch the MWC presentation, it's all explained there. pretty mind-blowing too. there's even a hard-hat hololens 😂
Yep, watch the MWC presentation. They've partnered with a bunch of devs to make it easy to use the HoloLens 2 for that specific use case with a minimum of building your own application. They absolutely are rolling out medical, architecture, and design software - it's just that it's all 3rd party built. Which is the point.
Human Anatomy Atlas have already developed an app that can work with AR in order to teach anatomy , and for a matter of fact a lot of ppl in my anatomy classes use it and it's amazing
Damn I remember seeing this back in 2015 at E3 and always wondered what happened to this lol glad they didnt drop the project
20 years time there will be people walking around the streets with things like these. All connected, no more need for cell phones.
Danny Snezza even laptops and consoles can be abolished with this but it needs a powerful internet so the streaming works.
If this thing could run a really time excel spread that you can just have a number pad appear to push with your hands. It will be incredibly useful for inputting data from the field or worksite.
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Mind blowing product, definitely will help even for technicians such as AC workers, auto repair or even similar trades, how? By interacting with your own coworker, superviser etc or more experienced technician in real virtual life and get the job done..
But can you play crysis with it?
I work at lot of electronics prototyping and I have to put laptop next to SMD/Sodering Station. and constant flip my head here and there. MR producrts like this can be a game changer and saves lot of time.
How will the military use this ?
Why does it matter?
Already in use, Microsoft just signed a 500 million Hololens deal with the US Army for training & simulation.
to kill people
Real time gps/topo mapping. Target placement. Simulations. The possibilities are endless, really.
Cockpit helmets have similar holographic tech for targeting/ flying.
Seeing products from an internet shop in real size and form through HoloLens would really help. Sometimes it's hard to say what you're buying but if you could "touch" it and see all the details, and possibly, disassemble and see the components to make sure you want the product... this would be revolutionary!
I mean, one of its big selling points was that you could play Minecraft on it, and that was like 2-3 years ago, now they’re moving away from that, little disappointing but I guess they’re still working out the kinks ._.
I wouldn't call that a selling point... No one they were actually selling HoloLens to was planning to actually play Minecraft on their $3000-$5000 face computer. But it was a useful way of hyping up the imagination and teasing the possibilities of the tech, as Dieter mentioned. Smart.
i mean, a $150 Windows MR headset lets you play Minecraft in VR
This is why consumers are just useless, get a $3000 computer and you want to play games (I think Microsoft is right not to market to the silly imaginations of consumers)
@@noaht7383 All right calm down, no need to get on some high horse over a comment. I'd think a big head like you would have better thinks to do then find something to be mad about (-_-)
@@noaht7383 the silly imagination of consumers? Like 70% of the stuff you own was made by someone who was at some point a consumer who just wanted a better product. Have you ever heard how since 3d printer are so cheap now consumer make there own models for people with missing limbs. It a cheap affordable alternative to people who may not have the money for a professional prosthetic. It was also thought of by the consumer.
As a soon to-be product designer, this would be really useful for viewing your digital prototypes on a true 1:1 scale
Yeah, forgot to mention Microsoft got contract with the military
How could they not? Microsoft is really good at what they do.
The way he said it made it seem that future iterations will eventually be for consumers but only when it's good enough.
I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if this split like the Surface line did. The first iterations were all Surface Pro, then we got Surface Book, Surface Studio, and Surface Laptop. This is currently very niche, and they have a great opportunity to make some money and grow the product a lot for an audience with very clear needs that have money to spend and a LOT of people to serve. I think in an iteration or two, the price will come down and it won't be nearly as niche and there will be multiple options. The enterprise market really trusts Microsoft and has a lot of money to spend, so they are a easier first audience.
I think for consumers it doesn't solve any problems but for 1st line workers it's solving a real problem (access to a computer without hindering the job at hand)
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I really like Dieter as a writer for The Verge. For one, he can explain technical terminology in a way that people will understand. The
Microsoft is at forefront to replace mobile.
They're going to need to shrink it down quite a lot.
@Zack Smith evidence? How do you define "fail"? Is it a fail that hololens was in space? Were you in space? Is it a fail that nearly every company that tryed it, signed a contract with Microsoft , and improved the device over the past years with them providing feedback and bringing hololens 2 to life? This is everything but a fail.
@@Owlero Agree! Not just shrink but whole device need overhaul, from User Interface to Hardware. Big task will be to make UI more easy and friendly
@Zack Smith same was said about device through which you have written this comment in its early stage. Hololens 1 was more of a concept. Disruptive product need time, lots of improvement during their life cycle.
Just look at first mobile and current mobile phones.
over time hardware will improve, better battery, larger FOV, sophisticated sensors will make Hololoens a consumer device.
I can see how this would be really helpful for someone that does a lot of 3D modeling. Like how you can use your hands to move what your modeling around
Is this the nervegear from sword art online ?😂
No, its Mixed Reality. Have a great day.
Just take all my money and throw me in SAO😂🤣😂
More like Accel World
I want augma or amusphere so much! ;(
TheRealBandito augma would be good for training on gym. Amusphere would be my dream vr machine i’d like to play Gun Gale Online so much
Nadella clearly one of the smartest/wisest tech CEOs out there. Microsoft gaining much valuable experience actually having real people using HoloLens in the field, while not creeping out individual consumers like Google Glass did. Plenty of use cases.
Sword art online fans dream of this kind of tech
No nervegear yet. Maybe in our lifetimes, but $$$$$
This is more like Accel World
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yadpreet singh Your thinking vr this is AR, SAO is VR headsets but I get what you mean this is still awesome
Ordinal Scale is a great concept
I'm an assembly technician working for a defensive contractor in the bay area...and I can assure you, this would be great in my work.... however it would never happen for one simple fact... Security!
Good on Microsoft not being money-hunger evil company and support the technology for the sake of improvement
They're talking about controlling each photon. Are they controlling the focal length of each voxel for full focal accommodation?
Imagine battery exploding in this, like Note7
Hope Hololens 3 will have wider field of view and finally comes to public consumers at lower price. This thing is developing very very slow.
That will need a massive processor with a lot of batteries and a graphic card...
Sword Art Online
Here we go
A Corporação B.O.T.G yup
I'm looking forward to playing the world's first AR/MRMMO!
Why you need AR? I think VR is much better to enter a fantasy world
Most of the things that are being shown off seem like they could be pulled off by VR as well, so the only real applications I can see of this would be as a HUD for doctors, and for training for soldiers (which as far as I'm aware is the main way it's normally used for). When the tech gets cheaper, maybe soldiers could find use for it in the field.
Engineering stuff seems like it would be just as easily pulled off by some autocad like application in VR, which is way cheaper right now with WMR headsets going for $200
This is Minority Report becoming reality
As a mechanic this would be awesome, if you where to see a hologram of something of how it’s suppose to be put together on the car itself, it would make putting stuff back together sooooo much easier.
2:59 From the windows to the walls.
I am an architect and i see the whole world opening with this kind of technology, particularly a new way for clients to visualise their projects
I really like this concept and i think this has the biggest potential for future consumer product.
Imagine a smartglass that is just as small as regular glass, connect to your phone via bluetooth. The front layer of glass are transparent OLED and neutral density filter that is adjustable for AR/VR mode. Meanwhile the back layer is just regular lens that fits to your eye condition. Putting an eye tracking sensor to navigate (inside the glass) and motion sensor + camera in the outside to sense hand movement. The sound will be transmitted via vibration from the hinge.
This is very impressionant! I'm gonna talk about it in one of my school project here in Brazil!
I'm a music producer and I imagine having a daw with mixed reality where you're like sticking blocks together and turning knobs and stuff, will be epic
This would be a great virtual hands on training tool for just aboit anything in any available open space.
It would be great if I could use this tech after med school and residency training 💪
imagine a real life battle royale with this, with a rendered ring, health hud, and weapons that fired not actual projectiles but rendered in bolts of energy. Combine it with haptic feedback and you got urself an enterprise.
I think we should push all retail stores to get these for their stockers, because we definitely need these...
That last cut was sick
this would make designing cars and homes and really any object an amazing experience. I can see CAD software being developed just for MR along with the hand movements... also using it to scan 3d objects, create a mesh and modify from there... I look forward to having a go at it.
Dude cooking with this thing on could be next level
As a software engineer I don’t have *as* much use of it compared to engineers etc, but I can imagine how handy it’ll be to simply have floating chrome browsers everywhere…
It's a big improvement from the first HoloLens, but I want to see some of this tech make it's way to home windows and mirrors. There are some smart-mirrors available, but a window projecting the weather and overlaying it on the outside world would be neat. Of course turning a window in a video screen would be neat too. If there was a way to make it so the display could only be seen from the inside, I'd be interested in that tech.
Dude!! This would be of immense help in shipping industry!! I'm a marine engineer and having something like this onboard to help us in overhauling and maintenance jobs would be a blessing!!
This would be amazing for jobs such as aircraft mechanic's. Aircraft electricians usually are constantly referencing wire diagrams while troubleshooting problems, this would enable them to have the diagrams integrated with what they are looking at. Amazing potential!