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  • Steven Gerrard reflects on his time at England, and what stopped the so called 'golden generation' from achieving their potential.
    Taken from Match of the Day: Top 10, @BBCSport's Gary Lineker and Jermaine Jenas ask the former Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard to discuss his favourite moments on international duty, which he admits there wasn't enough of.
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  • @BBCSounds
    @BBCSounds  Před 3 lety +1

    Can the current generation succeed where the golden generation couldn't?
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  • @MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys

    Our best players played too similar a role at their club personality-wise. Hard-headed, stars of their team crammed together, e.g. Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Beckham, Rio, Lampard. The midfield were never used to playing with each other at club level so didn't have the connection teams like Spain did. We also lacked pace so our midfield and front line was pretty static and unbalanced, plus Owen was always injured/unfit so we'd have some 2nd rate striker half the time (Vassell, Bent, Agbonlahor, Crouch).
    Our defense was quality (A Cole, Rio, Terry all world class, Neville solid) although after Seamen, never had a confident, quality GK (maybe Hart for a bit, but by then the defense had crumbled).

  • @moluther2826
    @moluther2826 Před 3 lety +15

    "Bla Bla Bla"
    -Steven Gerrard

  • @Chris-si4ox
    @Chris-si4ox Před 10 měsíci +1

    Its 100% mental game. No one saw the training sessions - but according to the players around 2004-2006 it was the highest level of football they'd ever seen. The issue was that they couldn't replicate that level of performance in the tournament games - why? => because the players were nervous & scared. Little to do with bad management - players couldn't handle the pressure.

  • @freddielogan8081
    @freddielogan8081 Před 3 lety +23

    GK James
    LB Cole
    CB Terry
    CB Campbell
    RB Neville
    LM Scholes
    CM Gerrard
    CM Lampard
    RM Beckham
    ST Rooney
    ST Owen
    This team should of won euro 2004

    • @MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys
      @MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys Před 3 lety +5

      Unfortunately, Rooney got injured in that Portugal game, he'd been sensational the whole tournament.

    • @lawwegner5837
      @lawwegner5837 Před 3 lety +3

      again lopsided line up. for me drop lampard. play gerrad and scholes in midfield , have hargreaves as dm and play three strong attack in lennon, rooney and owen. that balance team

    • @JW-zr4ju
      @JW-zr4ju Před 2 lety +3

      @@lawwegner5837 Lampard was in fine form as well for Euro 2004 scoring 3 goals. He, Gerrard or Scholes could have made such an impact from the bench! Such a shame that Sven tried to cram individual talent in a 4-4-2, instead of making a team out of the talent that was at his disposal.

    • @ZJS0113
      @ZJS0113 Před 2 lety

      Why have you started left to right rather than right to left? Lol

    • @johnstephenson2430
      @johnstephenson2430 Před 2 lety

      Lol 442

  • @dingledingle7951
    @dingledingle7951 Před 3 lety +14

    Gerrard will be the first Englishman to win the premier league serving his apprenticeship at us will go on and become a master

  • @benanderson9551
    @benanderson9551 Před 3 lety +4

    Was capello not a big manager? I think pressure came for the best player at the top 4 clubs to play no matter if they were out of position.. they could never be dropped also the rivalries between clubs couldn’t be put behind them
    For the sake of England

    • @MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys
      @MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys Před 3 lety +2

      He was, but by then the golden generation was the olden generation, and the expectation of failure was too engrained to shake. Also, his hyper-disciplined style didn't work with spoilt players, and the FA/English media meddled too much.

    • @benanderson9551
      @benanderson9551 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys I think the media play a big part, equally I think it’s an English mentality issue. Too many egos. I was never a fan of capello but when you look at how consistently the players were performing for their clubs at that time, I’d say they were prime years for many. Ultimately I’d say England never had the right manager, someone who could take the pressure off the players, unite them as a team and drop one or two big players for the benefit of the team

    • @MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys
      @MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys Před 3 lety

      @@benanderson9551 Yeah you're right, to be fair he only got to manage them through the 2010 WC when a lot had left or declined (No Beckham, Owen, Scholes, Rio was tailing off, Gerrard and Lampard were tailing off/changing roles a bit).
      Totally agree on the media/mentality too. With so much pressure and negativity from the media, the players always seemed to be scared to mess up. I think a lot of our success in 2018 (besides the relatively easy run) was that we had an inexperienced manager and squad, so the nation had no expectations. The players were free to go out and have a go, rather than be expected to be contenders.

    • @lawwegner5837
      @lawwegner5837 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MichaelLeightonsKarlyPilkboys sorry disagree. fabio was past his best when he took over england for me. same with sven. for me 2006 team was big mistake. kept playing ageing 31 one year old beckham when he should of been on the bench

  • @aderahman7325
    @aderahman7325 Před 2 lety

    What about capello ha?

  • @DarkForcesStudio
    @DarkForcesStudio Před rokem

    One word: Egos.

  • @mattybhoy6522
    @mattybhoy6522 Před 3 lety +16

    I personally think it's because Englishmen tend to get ahead of themselves. They start playing well for a few and then think they've already won the next match/ tournament before even playing. You saw it with the " it's coming home " nonsense. You see it with their rugby too, they lose important games, didn't even make it out of the pools when hosting the 2015 World cup. There is a fine line between confidence and delusion. If England sorts that out and focuses on each game as they come rather than the end rewards and accolades and garner a bit of humility by having respect for the opponents they underestimate, they will be a force to be reckoned with.

    • @josephclarke557
      @josephclarke557 Před 3 lety +6

      A lot of them are seriously overrated as well. Honestly Spanish, German and french national teams have been superior to the English for decades

    • @itellyouwhy6957
      @itellyouwhy6957 Před 3 lety +4

      What is your “England already think they have the next match/tournament won” based on? How do you know what the individual players are thinking?

    • @itellyouwhy6957
      @itellyouwhy6957 Před 3 lety +1

      The “coming home nonsense” was two comedians who made a song up. What does that have to do with the football team??

    • @itellyouwhy6957
      @itellyouwhy6957 Před 3 lety +1

      Football and Rugby are two different sports and teams of different individual people. How can you use that as some sort of proof for your idiotic Thesis....

    • @itellyouwhy6957
      @itellyouwhy6957 Před 3 lety +2

      The media drive the shite as always. The national team will dispose the media as much as the man on the street. Buy your misplaced logic is a consequence of your anti British/English DNA.

  • @redplague
    @redplague Před rokem

    They are cup competitions. They have more similarity with the FA Cup than the Premier League so I don't think it's so much of a big deal. The team who wins isn't necessarily the very best.

  • @den_525
    @den_525 Před 2 lety +2

    Because that team had no balance!! That's a fact. Managers have no balls. There were many combinations they should've went to but didn't... but they insisted on Lampard/Gerrard in central midfield!! Imagine playing Bruno and KDB together in the same team... just doesn't work.
    Hargreaves and Carrick should've been utilised 1000x more. Lampard at Chelsea had Makelele, Essien next to him... Gerrard had Alonso Hamann next to him... Scholes had Keane and Carrick next to him... these players needed a more controlling/disciplined player alongside them. Rather than each other.
    Managers over and over again didn't learn from their previous manager's mistake... or previous tournament's mistake. Keep making the same mistake expecting a different outcome

  • @RobMania
    @RobMania Před 3 lety +11

    Southgate has to make the easy decision to drop Maguire and Pickford though...

  • @dondamon4669
    @dondamon4669 Před 2 lety

    Why does he keep getting jenas in it? Was he even there??

  • @ousmanbojang2795
    @ousmanbojang2795 Před 2 lety

    Gerrard is spot on

  • @aganbraganca4156
    @aganbraganca4156 Před 6 měsíci +1

    portugal owned them

  • @dundeedolphin
    @dundeedolphin Před 3 lety +4

    "England are getting success". Are they? I must have missed that.

    • @dundeedolphin
      @dundeedolphin Před 2 lety +1

      @Fusilier Are you ok? You should have that cough seen to. 😄

    • @oceanfive8201
      @oceanfive8201 Před 2 lety

      We are ten times better than Gerard’s squad

    • @dundeedolphin
      @dundeedolphin Před 2 lety

      @@oceanfive8201The England squad is better than the Villa squad? Well there's something to be proud of. 😄

    • @oceanfive8201
      @oceanfive8201 Před 2 lety

      @@dundeedolphin no the England team we have now is ten times better than Gerard’s England squad

    • @dundeedolphin
      @dundeedolphin Před 2 lety

      @@oceanfive8201 They've been more successful for sure.

  • @GeoZeppelin1979
    @GeoZeppelin1979 Před rokem

    they got whooped in 2002 by Brazil which was the best since 1970

  • @jackmallory7996
    @jackmallory7996 Před 3 lety +1

    Fine player Gerrard but only really outstanding achievement was winning Champs League in 2005. As shown here, England underperformed when he was with them and he also never won a league title with Liverpool.

    • @AJ-dl2by
      @AJ-dl2by Před 3 lety +7

      He’s one of the greatest midfielders of his generation. 4 x world team of the year nominee. Won every trophy bar the league, scored in every cup final, only player ever to do that. Fabregas idolised him, as did Zidane calling him once the best midfielder in the world, as did totti, mourinho, pele etc. Put some respect on him name and do your research dickhead.

  • @sirperybLakeney
    @sirperybLakeney Před 3 lety +3

    Saying that Erikson or Capello should have changed from a 442 is getting your thinking backwards. They were hired by the FA precisely because they played 442.
    People are forgetting that British players were widely held to be unable to understand anything else because that's all they were used to playing. Sure during the 2000s some teams had started using other systems but it was still believed to be the only thing you could rely on a whole England team to be comfortable with.

    • @den_525
      @den_525 Před 2 lety

      It was circumstantial... just like Gerrard and Lampard played together. England had great strikers Shearer/Owen... Owen/Rooney... at time they considered changing formation... but didn't know who would go wide... they also had Beckham who was a RM not a RW... if they changed to 433 half their star players would either be played out of position or missed out.

  • @thesweeney4348
    @thesweeney4348 Před 3 lety +2

    Did J.J..just pretend he actually was there against Germany, and then...quoted a "friendly shower"..🤦‍♂️ 2020 is a hellva year.

    • @den_525
      @den_525 Před 2 lety

      He was talking about a completely different game. Need to learn to listen.

  • @ekwejohnson6965
    @ekwejohnson6965 Před 2 lety +1

    There was better intl teams out there. Brasil, France.

  • @shelbystandefer4070
    @shelbystandefer4070 Před 3 lety +3

    That's why I think england are getting success???
    What success a world cup semi final ... in which They had an easy route ....
    Personally I think they have a better golden generation coming through now..... come on Ireland

    • @danielthomas3379
      @danielthomas3379 Před 3 lety +3

      You’re taking a midfield of Henderson winks and Declan rice over scholes gerrard and lampard? You’re smoking crack.

    • @stingustin3587
      @stingustin3587 Před 2 lety +1

      It final now euro,problmm with england squad its their star ego

  • @thomasjones2415
    @thomasjones2415 Před 3 lety +1

    If England Had Made Steven Gerrard After David Beckham Retired As Captain, England Wood Have Won A Trophy,

    • @JW-zr4ju
      @JW-zr4ju Před 2 lety +3

      Gerrard was captain at 3 tournaments. World Cup 2010/2014 and Euro 2012.

    • @den_525
      @den_525 Před 2 lety

      @@JW-zr4ju John Terry was by far the better choice as Captain.

  • @ArmyofLove
    @ArmyofLove Před 3 lety +1

    My 1st point:
    Great players play well out of position. Gerrard was a great player but shows a little attitude here.
    2nd point
    In any formation, good players perform.
    3rd point
    England weren't brave enough including Sven.

  • @DaKoolDude
    @DaKoolDude Před 11 měsíci

    Ego

  • @brain8484
    @brain8484 Před 3 lety +4

    they were crap and let England down time and time again

  • @andrewmcgill9544
    @andrewmcgill9544 Před 2 lety +1

    They are useless without their foreign teammates and managers lol.

  • @lawwegner5837
    @lawwegner5837 Před 3 lety +1

    sven was regressive manager. played long ball vs portugul! sorry he was wrong manager for a talented group of player. never bar argentina in 2002 won big game major tournament. played 10 men vs brazil and yet we played long ball football! against portugul in 06 no deco or figo and we play long ago. wrong manager for these group of players! simple as that

    • @MrTerryb1956
      @MrTerryb1956 Před 3 lety +2

      he was too busy he had his mind on other things like some women off the telly who read the weather

  • @samueldavids3704
    @samueldavids3704 Před rokem

    What could Gerard, Lampard, scholes and Beckham do for you? Not a lot. Seriously, how does that mediocre midfield win you a game? Every single last one of those players for their clubs is relying on foreign talent to do the creative work and make things happen. England weren’t good enough. England now has creative talent. England are arguably better now.

  • @truecockney438
    @truecockney438 Před 2 lety +1

    I truly believe the reason the golden generation failed was because of the Man Utd boys wouldn’t sit and eat or even talk to the Liverpool players because they were rivals but they shouldn’t have been they were there for England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 how pathetic is that so that’s who I blame the pricks at Man Utd

  • @akshaypanwar4964
    @akshaypanwar4964 Před 3 lety +3

    Summary of whatever Gerrard said , blah blah blah

  • @MidnightRambler
    @MidnightRambler Před 2 lety

    weak players very weak management

  • @ST-wh1jo
    @ST-wh1jo Před 2 lety

    but can we atleast agree about blah blah blah

  • @pabloalvez915
    @pabloalvez915 Před 3 lety

    Gerrard sounds Scottish.

    • @BBCSounds
      @BBCSounds  Před 3 lety

      Does he? 👀👀

    • @mandlin4602
      @mandlin4602 Před 3 lety

      I think that’s the Huyton Scouse accent tbh. I’m from huyton and now live in Birmingham and often get asked if I’m Irish or Scottish lol.

  • @kevinsibiya
    @kevinsibiya Před 2 lety +1

    Overrated. Honestly. They think they were that good.