Gustaf Alströmer - Growth for Startups

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  • YC Partner and growth expert Gustaf Alströmer talks about how to measure product market fit, how to decide on a growth channel, metrics that lie about PMF and other mechanics of growth for startups.
    Transcript and lecture slides here: www.ycombinator.com/library/6...
    This lecture is part of YC's Startup School, a free online program and global community of founders. Register and join the community at www.startupschool.org/
    Chapters (Powered by bit.ly/chapterme-yc) -
    00:00 Introduction
    1:36 Do things that don't scale
    3:55 Case study: Airbnb
    8:33 Product-market fit
    16:30 Growth channels and tactics
    18:29 Conversion rate optimization
    21:37 Growth channels to explore
    25:46 Referrals & virality
    28:16 Paid growth
    30:20 Search Engine Optimizaion (SEO)
    33:12 A/B Testing
    37:45 Conclusion
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Komentáře • 54

  • @chapterme
    @chapterme Před 7 měsíci +3

    Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) -
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:20 - What I will cover today
    01:02 - Background
    01:19 - Most startups don't have product-market fit
    01:36 - Misconception - 'If you build it, they will come'
    02:25 - Do things that don't scale
    03:16 - Every MBA in YC - 'This idea will not scale'
    03:49 - Airbnb in 2009
    04:12 - - First version of Airbnb website
    04:30 - - Question from Paul Graham - Who are your users?
    04:43 - - - Airbnb website after joining YC
    05:18 - - Things Airbnb was missing
    05:30 - - - Talk to your users
    07:24 - - Lesson - Startups take off because founders make them take off
    08:28 - - Only one way to grow when you are small!
    08:32 - Product Market Fit (PMF)
    09:08 - - Best way to figure out product market fit
    09:19 - - - Two ways to start that - metric and repeat usage
    09:50 - - Examples for measuring product market fit
    09:53 - - - Airbnb
    10:20 - - - Instagram
    10:45 - - - Gusto
    11:13 - - - Lyft
    11:32 - - Now, measure your retention graph
    11:49 - - - Bad product
    13:37 - - - Great product with product market fit
    13:56 - - - Example graph 1 - Doordash
    14:22 - - - Example graph 2 - GitHub
    14:34 - - Retention - Best way to measure PMF
    14:45 - - Other (worse) ways to measure PMF
    14:48 - - - Net promoter score
    15:04 - - - Surveys
    15:18 - - - 'How would you feel if you can no longer use this product'
    15:32 - - Bad metrics for PMF
    15:39 - - - Registered users
    15:46 - - - Visitors
    15:52 - - - 'Conversion rate'
    16:06 - - - 'Customers that aren't paying'
    16:31 - Growth channel and tactics (if you have PMF)
    17:05 - - Two ways to grow at scale
    17:16 - - - Product growth/Conversion rate optimization
    17:40 - - - Growth channels
    18:29 - - Product growth - Conversation rate optimization
    18:37 - - - Product is a funnel
    19:32 - - - Every step in the funnel have a drop-off
    20:04 - - - Areas to focus on
    20:11 - - - - Internationalization
    20:25 - - - - Authentication
    21:02 - - - - Onboarding
    21:25 - - - - Purchase conversion
    21:38 - - Growth channels to explore
    21:46 - - - Google SEO and SEM
    22:14 - - - Virality and referrals
    22:44 - - - Virality
    23:32 - - - Sales
    24:18 - - - Paid acquisition (Facebook, Google etc.)
    25:08 - - - Most big companies grow huge using only 1 or 2 channels
    25:45 - Referrals and Virality
    25:53 - - Definition
    26:13 - - Airbnb referrals product
    26:27 - - Airbnb referrals funnel
    26:57 - - - Airbnb referrals invite email
    27:07 - - - - Optimize for Social proof, clear value, urgency, exclusivity
    28:17 - Paid growth
    28:50 - - Lesson 1 - Don't do it unless you have revenue
    29:06 - - Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC)
    30:15 - - Main channels
    30:22 - Search Engine Optimization (SEO)
    31:11 - - SEO is a zero-sum game
    31:21 - - Key words change constantly
    31:37 - - What you see - Airbnb search result page
    31:40 - - What Google sees - Airbnb search result page
    31:55 - - Two main levers for SEO
    31:58 - - - On-page optimization
    32:28 - - - Off-page optimization
    33:13 - Making decision using A/B testing
    33:29 - - Situations where its helpful
    33:46 - - Most of you don't need this right now (don't do it!)
    34:08 - - Example
    34:47 - - Experiment review - Help make decisions at scale
    35:17 - - - 'Good product instincts'
    35:27 - - - Example 1 - IOS sharing sheet
    36:22 - - - Example 2 - Signup wall or not?
    37:35 - - Product decisions are hard
    37:40 - - Most of you won't need A/B testing for a long time
    37:45 - Summary
    38:26 - End

  • @warrakehussein2297
    @warrakehussein2297 Před 4 lety +46

    I'm always excited when i hear "Retention"

  • @aemericenglish2417
    @aemericenglish2417 Před 4 lety +17

    1. If u build it, they will come X
    IF U BUILD IT, THEY WONT COME
    2. 2 Skills needed at the beginnging.
    a. Do a lot of things that dont feel right.
    b. Do things dont scale.
    3. Go to the users, and watch how they use it - so start with users near u who has that problems.
    4. Startups take off because founders make them take off
    5. Retention is the best way to determine product market fit.
    cont : 16.43

  • @alexandreazevedo1667
    @alexandreazevedo1667 Před 4 lety +18

    Retention as the product-fit evidence is great. Many times we think too much on the acquisition in the beginning. Although it’s important to acquire users, if retention is low (high churn rate), you’re just bringing more people who will be somehow frustrated with your product.

  • @jpaulosp
    @jpaulosp Před rokem +3

    Great class about growth for startups!! Congrats YC team and Gustaf for the rich content.

  • @neerajnandan3351
    @neerajnandan3351 Před rokem +1

    This is a gold mine.. please add each topic as a new series..

  • @sethsamuel6357
    @sethsamuel6357 Před 2 lety +1

    This is about one of the best talks I have received here! Gustaf nailed it! Thank you.

  • @nat.serrano
    @nat.serrano Před 3 lety +6

    Probably the best Ycombinator video ever

  • @MightyAfricans
    @MightyAfricans Před 3 lety +1

    So grateful for this channel. God bless.

  • @juniorv.c.1107
    @juniorv.c.1107 Před 4 lety +5

    Excellent. Concise and precise

  • @facundomiranda3391
    @facundomiranda3391 Před 4 lety +9

    Great Talk!!! I find it really full of value, i kind of knew the story about how Airbnb took off,but didnt know that the guys that went to took the photos were actually the founders!!! Now i get what you mean with " things that dont scale and feel unconventional" . The teaching of the metrics were brilliant too, im a fan of measuring everything and now i understand more about measuring what really matters to grow. Thanks a lot for this!
    Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷👌

  • @tarunommadan
    @tarunommadan Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Gustaf. This is very informative video. Some of the points discussed are very very helpful. Very good presentation. 👍 My gratitude to Y Combinator as well.

  • @lepchenkov
    @lepchenkov Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks Gustaf for your useful advices!

  • @SineadWalshMansfield
    @SineadWalshMansfield Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you, insightful 👍

  • @andrewkiminhwan
    @andrewkiminhwan Před 4 lety +2

    I work as a contractor for a major government agency, and its kind of sad we don't A/B test. We did an AB test, where we literally had one universe, but with two opposing colliding galaxies (aka. differing control/experiment on different pages of the same site, shown to all users)

  • @Tubingonline1
    @Tubingonline1 Před 3 lety

    I loved this talk. I keep coming back to this channel every few days. You sure have a product market fit Y Combinator! But, hey, this is a free channel, so, this doesn't count, I guess. ;)

  • @tetroblanco3509
    @tetroblanco3509 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Gustaf!!!!

  • @slaveofallah6452
    @slaveofallah6452 Před 3 lety

    Massage chairs business are less expensive amongst all vending machine in market. 26. It really amazed me how big I earned for the first week of my vending machine business. This is really a good business idea

  • @ustelgayrimenkulgelistirme8483

    Thank you ✪

  • @martinstine
    @martinstine Před rokem

    Great one Gustaf. 🙌🙌🙌 YC

  • @user-qg8qc5qb9r
    @user-qg8qc5qb9r Před 2 dny

    Introduction and Overview - 00:00:00
    Early Stages and Doing Things That Don't Scale - 00:02:24
    Airbnb Case Study: Doing Things That Don't Scale - 00:04:20
    Product Market Fit and Retention - 00:08:36
    Measuring Product Market Fit with Retention - 00:09:07
    Examples of Companies with Product Market Fit - 00:14:06
    Bad Metrics for Product Market Fit - 00:15:34
    Growth Channels and Tactics - 00:16:29
    Conversion Rate Optimization - 00:17:25
    Growth Channels - 00:21:50
    Referrals and Virality - 00:25:36
    Paid Growth and Online Marketing - 00:28:26
    Search Engine Optimization (SEO) - 00:30:17
    A/B Testing - 00:33:36
    Experiment Review and Product Instincts - 00:34:58
    Summary and Conclusion - 00:37:52

  • @OmerVexler
    @OmerVexler Před 2 lety

    Great talk!

  • @DJParkeriDreamCEO
    @DJParkeriDreamCEO Před 4 lety +1

    I love YC

  • @spiraltag2470
    @spiraltag2470 Před 2 lety

    Gathered More Info ! Thanks !

  • @bagmanCF
    @bagmanCF Před rokem

    Thank you for the insights

  • @shutdwn18
    @shutdwn18 Před 2 lety

    Question for anyone who can help. At -26:21 the graph for Lyft. The first plot point, week 0 is at 50% for 10 riders. Why isn’t that point at 100%?

  • @muhammadafif8798
    @muhammadafif8798 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks bro

  • @philbland
    @philbland Před 4 lety +6

    11:22 I think Riders is a typo and it should just be Rides. Isn't Ride the metric and the weekly/monthly frequency is how often the Rider takes a Ride - that would be consistent with Airbnb when a Guest books a Stay at least Annually

    • @testadrome
      @testadrome Před 4 lety +3

      Exactly my thoughts. I don't think it makes sense to use bookings as a metric for AirBnb but not use rides as the core metric for Lyft. Isn't it the same thing?

    • @10DGjoHnSon
      @10DGjoHnSon Před 4 lety +2

      @@testadrome It does make sense to measure bookings in Airbnb they are "qualified leads". Stays are the "actual sales". So Airbnb, will just optimize their sales funnel on how they will convert Bookings into Stays.
      Its basically a chicken and egg situation.

    • @jasonthomas5140
      @jasonthomas5140 Před 3 lety

      There is in fact a typo at that timestamp. It's 'Monhtly'.

  • @Knowledge_Nuggies
    @Knowledge_Nuggies Před 2 lety +2

    How does this whole "PMF = retention" formula work if it's a one-off business model that solves a problem for people which they typically only encounter once (or rarely) in their life? For example, stuff like ancestry research, intelligence tests, Gallup Strengths Finder etc. How/when do you know your product fits the market? NPS/CSAT?
    Also, more generally, why not use the market share of the target market as an indicator of PMF? If 3-5% are the early adopters needed to "cross the chasm" into the "growth stage" resp. the critical mass needed to go from push to pull marketing (M2M, network effects etc.) needed for expontential growth, why not use this market share as a potential threshold value for PMF? Is it too abstract?
    In a similar vein, I struggle with YC's general advice against paid marketing; to me, it seems very plausible to get closer to said 3-5% MS and build momentum faster and more linear and predictable in the target market this way. As long as the runway allows it...🤷‍♀️

  • @atomicowl-
    @atomicowl- Před 3 lety

    Anybody know what metrics should startups like AirBnB measure that is VC approved?

  • @Daily_Peptalks
    @Daily_Peptalks Před 3 lety

    #MGMT1328885 I get this! Useful, simple and easy to understand. Yay! 1006

  • @stephanielockett7541
    @stephanielockett7541 Před 3 lety

    nice

  • @joelstephenson8017
    @joelstephenson8017 Před 2 lety

    Graph: 20% retained
    Him: really good!

  • @MostCommentsAreFake-ud8by

    My product compares euthanasia services. How do I test the product retention rate ?

    • @c.s1393
      @c.s1393 Před 3 lety

      Funny

    • @AcharyaChanakya108
      @AcharyaChanakya108 Před 3 lety

      Almost 7 billion potential users. 100% churn rate.
      Try to increase customer LTV by vertical integration, cross-sells & upsells.

  • @irinayakubova346
    @irinayakubova346 Před 3 lety

    MGMT1328885 I get this! Useful, simple and easy to understand. Yay! 1018

  • @mdebrahimchowdhury8061

    I am presenting...

  • @justinfleagle
    @justinfleagle Před 2 lety

    22:00

  • @harishmanmohan9858
    @harishmanmohan9858 Před 4 lety +2

    38:35 who's that indian at YC..

  • @MatthewRiddett
    @MatthewRiddett Před 4 lety

    Just gonna leave this here. Further perspective: czcams.com/video/FBOLk9s9Ci4/video.html

  • @samsammurphy
    @samsammurphy Před 4 lety

    Do things that don't scale
    paulgraham.com/ds.html

  • @jangrunwaldt604
    @jangrunwaldt604 Před 2 lety +1

    Lmao the world is a weird place. A talk full of gold nuggets gets 86K views but bunch of trash gets millions ;)

  • @webpro607
    @webpro607 Před 9 měsíci

    keep repeating things again and again..