This video is frustrating. On one side, we have a great product that seems fun, built with a lot of thought and engineering. I'd probably take it everywhere with all that range and power it has. On the other side, we have greedy businessmen that introduced "features" that brick your device if you unplug the battery. In a product that only has a 6 months warranty and that you have to ship back to USA if anything wrong happens. And all, under the "it's for your safety" excuse. I really was excited to get this one. Not anymore.
While I do agree with right to repair initiatives, it is worth clarifying that the board only bricks if you unplug the battery from the BMS (battery management system) and is able to be unplugged from the main controller. In theory if you needed a new battery unit, future motion could provide just that part without you having to send in the whole board.
Ghosting Update - Future Motion got back to me and are sending me a new front footpad. I asked specifically if it was hardware or firmware and here's what they said "your reported problem is not a software issue, it is likely related to the footpad itself". So hopefully for anyone that got the first batch of boards, if they have any ghosting issues they should get a new footpad and problem solved. Will test out the new footpad and put a little follow up to see if it solved the issue ! Thanks everyone for watching - hope this video helps 🤙.
That’s a HUGE safety issue-not knowing if the board will just randomly go rogue, keeping going down the street without you on it and plow into a crowd of kids at 30mph. Man they better address that SERIOUSLY!
"I asked specifically if it was hardware or firmware and here's what they said, "your reported problem is not a software issue, it is likely related to the footpad itself". they did this purposely, they said it was the footpad but it's not, its them not taking responsibility for a mass recall. also, if you change the battery with another One-wheel brand new it bricks the board itself- it's basically a company who is "anti-right to repair" you don't own you're one wheel even after buying it.
Thank you for the suprise ride. Coming from +18,000 kms now with 2 cbxrs, I couldn't agree more. The magic of the board is that it makes you forget where it came from (until repair time, but that's another issue). Feels very familiar, has so much promise and is Indeed confidence inspiring... Can be dangerous if you step back onto any other stock FM boards. Rider skill is required much later/faster so that's a double edged sword in my opinion ;) Catch you on the trails so we can see how it truly shines 🤙
Dang! This guy has by far the best review period on CZcams. Everyone wants to suger coat the issues between the XR and the GT. He just gives it to us straight so that we can make an educated buying decision. That's all any consumer can ask for. NO LIES, JUST ANSWERS. Thank you so much
@As the World Burns because they will not support the repair community. Essentially doing anything other than aesthetics to the board will void the warranty and they also monopolize the availability of oem parts.
@As the World Burns the other aspect is that they will not support the board at all after the so called warranty sticker have been broken. Even to change a tire. On the GT as soon as you disconnect the connector from BMS to controller the board is designed to create an error and you have no choice but to pay them to correct it IF they even will.
Great review! And good video! I'm also concerned about the ghosting issue. I've had it happen in the past on older boards and it's the most terrifying thing. Riding demands trust in the board and when that trust is shaky, then honestly the ride sucks. That being said... I can't wait to get mine! SO excited for it!
Can't wait for the Wren review of the GT. I love the range & torque, but the footpads dig into my feet, and the round tire is not my favorite. Looking forward to TFL, or C&R to start pumping out accessories
You're going to love the extra torque on the board. the normal nose dips when riding/carving at speed and hitting bumps is corrected super quick with the new tune...that sidewall is noticeable though. good thing TFL has a new tire coming soon.
Thanks SirWrender ! I agree, confidence in the board is super important ! I'm thinking the new footpad will fix the issue and I assume all of the units they're currently sending out already have the fixed footpad version in them. Cheers !
@sirwrender Please try to reach out to future motion against the new security of the GT. Starting with the GT onewheels are slowly becoming like Iphones in the fact that if you so much as unplug the battery the whole board will be bricked. You have a big enough onewheel following on corridor crew that I think FM might listen to you.
a ghosting board is the most dangerous. All it takes is one loose board to run into the road and cause a car crash that terminally hurts someone. Whose liability is that - mine, or future motion's? And then it's a lawsuit and then it's a lock down on all motorized board riders.
Man, the quality in this video is insane. I was first drawn to it by the Kickers because I haven't seen anyone else riding with them, but then I stayed for the rest of the video because it was so well put together and narrated. Definitely a well earned sub to the channel 🤙
@Matthew Hayslett kinda. The thing with modding and repairing yourself is that on company perspective if anything goes wrong they get the blame. Some people know what they are doing - some dont and do anyways. Some use quality parts - some save a buck and buy from Wish or something. I know this is what companies use as an excuse to hinder repairs but it kinda hard balance. Also legislation differs by countries so somewhere it might be easier to offer self repair than elsewhere.
@@Rinssi_from_Finland It's not a hard balance at all. There are thousands of ways to hurt yourself in everyday life, yet nobody blames the companies making nails if somebody decides to eat them or the people making skateboards when somebody fails a jump. If they want to protect themselves all that is needed is a clear warning saying "You being stupid is not our fault". There will always be the occational nutjob that will blame them for something but that will always happen, no matter what the 'balance' is so that never changes. The only reason for hinder/stop repairs is money. Future Motion want's more of it and the easiest way to get it was to be as hostile to their consumers as they could possibly get away with, plain and simple.
@@firaphex2824 that doesn’t matter. “One wheel catches fire” is a far more catchy news headline than “one wheel catches fire after a knockoff battery replacement”.
their anti right to repair stance and all the glitches this thing has, the GT is a bust (for now) imo. FM has gone from admirable to disappointing to me this year. I get wanting this board and being excited about the device's potential. But there's no way am I rewarding FM with a purchase with all the issues on this board. I hope they change their anti consumer practices and fix the glitches and then maybe one day I'll feel like they've earned my purchase (because I'd love to have a GT). Until then I'll just keep riding my OW+ (and regret never upgrading to the XR lol)
Matthew, you said it perfectly!!! Your thoughts here mirror mine perfectly. Fingers crossed that Future Motion would read this and listen!! Then and only then will you and I be seen on the GT. Like I said....fingers crossed!
The board may be pretty good, but I am not dropping that much money on something I can't maintain locally since the company that makes these has sketcky practices. I'll stick to my bike :)
@Matthew Hayslett you try to to hard mod, upgrade / remove battery, or just fix electrical problems they'll brick your board with no option of refund sur Ron is the way too go. But personally I couldn't imagine paying 2200 for something that can't carry me up a 40 degree angle
@Killer Willies Hey, thanks for writing this comment. That's all really good info. I'd never heard of Sur-Ron before. That thing looks siiiiick. Really expensive though.
Was strongly considering just getting a new GT but after all the comments about the battery and repair practices it’s a firm “No” for me. Great video….was 98% there! Gotta love capitalism!
looks nice and this is a good review! only issue is after 3 minutes of searching it seems if you buy this you are vendor locked and cannot do anything by yourself. apple practices ? HUGE NO!
Don’t try to replace the battery on your GT yourself. Doing so will turn your GT into a brick. Future Motion is the only one who can change out your battery. It’s called building up your future customer base. Additionally, what ghosting? Future Motion deletes any posts regarding ghosting at their forum. Buy used, you will save even more money.
Due to the anti consumer practices of this company and how they brick your board due to a battery swap, NO ONE should be supporting them. Forcing them to change their practices will only benefit the end user. Their claims of "safety" are BS.
@@mariomeza3514 you have the send the board into their ONLY repair station to get replaced. They dont sell the batteries nor do DIY batteries or off the shelf batteries work. One company got around this but FM is throwing a frivolous lawsuit at them claiming copyright infringement.
There is no other consumer product that currently matches the one-wheel, that is part of the reason why they are doing all these little dirty business practices to try to have a monopoly on the situation There's plenty of DIY builders that are on their way to creating a firmware that works just as well as whatever-it-is future motion is using
The ghosting is definitely a huge issue. I actually got hurt because it went backwards after getting off, forcing me into doing the splits and partially tearing my lateral knee ligament. I contacted Future-motion, and they call it a “sticky pad”. I just got it back, but I’m still too insured to ride it. I have to admit, I’m not sure if they truly have a fix for it and if my board is now actually fixed. It will be serval month, before I can ride it again. I have had my pint for several years and was very happy with it. The GT sounded like the perfect upgrade, but if that problem is not fixed, that makes this board extremely dangerous to ride!
I’ve absolutely loved my XR and wanted to upgrade. But I’d never buy any products future motion offers. No right to repair and no possibility to upgrade. I’m fine with a stock board. But I’d like to know it can be repaired without being bricked. Bullshit.
An easy way to make GT more your own and make it more to each individual rider is to add a push back bar under the under construction custom mode so you can adjust everything there and just ride how and what you want, also put a warning that weak push back is not safe and is not recommended (insert disclaimer) along with all the other adjustments..
I want the GT but I have a XR. I'll probably buy one when they fix all the software issues and glitches. The range alone and less charge time is what sells it to me.
Great to see some local shredding in Calgary. I sure hope they went to metric fasteners. You could also mention the lower mileage has something to do with the temperature out. I have to wait till it's 10C out before I can ride to work on my XR.
I have a mag handle on the XR, lots of people dont care but I like having both handles as someone who rides every day I can say both handles have situations where they’re appreciatedz
Awesome review. I'm not a owner yet. I read every comment before asking this question to avoid duplicates. You say the vast majority go with the treaded tire and that is what you would recommend. I'm very interested as to why. I had solidly chosen to go with the slick tire for the quiet ride as I saw a video where someone "upgraded" to a treaded tire on the older model. It was pretty noisy. I'd love to hear yours' and other's thoughts on treaded versus slick tires. Thank you again for a great review.
I've ridden both ! I'd go with the treaded ! Slick is great if you are JUST doing city riding in a place with good weather. If you plan to do any trails or ride where the weather changes a lot, the treaded is (in my opinion) the better option.
Same reason you drive your car with treaded tires and not race slicks. Riding over any type of standing water and you have a very high chance of sliding. It also allows for more traction in imperfect road conditions (gravel, dirt, sand, rocks)
Yoooo! Thank you for the killer review! Would you be willing to make a more indepth video about waterproofing the GT? If not, maybe share links to some reliable sources? Thank you!
I love watching your videos because I’ve lived in Calgary for so many years, so cool watching you riding around where I used to go on my boosted board years ago!
Got to share, I won 2 grand in Vegas came come and saw the gt video 6 hours after released and said I have to get it! Broke even but thank onewheel I'm so excited since October
Great Video man! Getting mine here soon and hope the first batch gremlins aren’t a concern. Seeing this makes me excited for late night rips around Downtown Calgary👌
Still waiting for my GT, but I PREFER a much stronger pushback in theory. The XR was way too subtle. I specifically ordered a GT for more torque for more safety and confidence. If they updated the pushback at all, I would only want them to do it as a customizable limited threshold on the app, so that way the default is to have it all the way up and those wanting to be more daring can tweak it a little down within reason. But honestly, I personally can’t take “more noticeable pushback” as a good complaint in my book, especially since it’s already happening LATER than the XR, which is great to know it has the power to do so. It’s a safety precaution based on available power, not an arbitrary “no fun allowed” rule. It’s possible it’s set to be a little reserved, but it’s there for good reasons. And the thing is, they didn’t remove the ability to push through pushback, it’s just harder to do than the XR apparently, so people can still do that if they choose. And the Onewheel I don’t personally feel is designed to even be a speed machine in the first place. I dunno, that’s my 2 cents.
I think the push back is more to try and protect the company then it is to protect people. You never know what it will take for someone to sue them. Otherwise they would've heard that same complaint, because EVERYONE said the same about it. They could've allowed for more, but keeping it at 20 mph is definitely something I'm sure they thought long and hard about. I guess that people could sign a waiver if they want to be able to adjust the push back though.
I have a pint x as my first onewheel and I did it because of the subtle pushback of the XR and the high likelihood of failure to recognize and respect it. I have zero desire to join the nosedive crew. You have to view pushback, on the device, as the HR department of a company… It is there to assist you while protecting the asset. I was slightly startled with the pushback on the pint x, but there is no confusion on what it is, and the respect that it enlightens you with. I do not think that they will ever release a custom pushback, nor do I believe that it is necessary. Remember…HR… lol.
This is the correct answer. Ghosting is from a faulty footpad. Austen, be sure to reach out to FM support and they will send you a replacement pad for free. I had to do this as well and it was very quick and painless. There is no reason to risk future ghosting issues that could potentially break or injure something or someone. Great video! Keep up the good work.
@@Trail_Clydesdale Thank you ! I have sent them a message about it, I'll see what they say and put a little update in so people know. If its a simple front footpad swap I'll be pleased !
@@AustenHartley just came from a short ride and my GT ghosted on hard stops 3 times. Got it twice on video. Really hoping there’s a fix for this, this board rocks but this is a serious safety issue.
Thanks for the video, first time seeing your channel. I got my GT on Thursday and on 2nd ride on Sunday had multiple ghosting issues. Caught a couple of them on video (LMK if you want to see them) where the board just took off and could have been bad depending on what it hit. I took advice from your video and sent a msg to FM. Not sure if they will replace it, but I had the carbon fender and that is pretty wrecked now from when the board popped up in the air and landed right on it. Bigger issue is the danger of a 35lb board traveling uncontrolled at 35mph. (caught that data on the app)
I just found out about these less than like 3 hours ago and I want one lmao. I'm worried about stuff people are saying though, like spontaneous combustion or ghosting.
I don't own one. But out on dirt trails, idk if its the same as a off-roading vehicle tires but is better to lower your psi. That way it grabs more to the dirt and is not rounded. When on the road, is okay to have it at regular psi that the tire shows. You guys should test that.
Not going to even watch the video. Don't buy this product. Any company that doesn't let you own a device that costs a fortune should not be given any rational debate or air time. Zero tolerance. If one company gets away with this and makes a profit, everyone else will do it. Not acceptable.
2 hours in a smooth/empty parking lot you'll feel pretty confident. The one thing I would suggest is learn out to float (ride) both ways and turn both ways before you leave that parking lot. Most OW riders do not know how to float switch (right or left foot forward) and they end up in tricky situations on the street.
I heard the slick tire is a rounded Pint style. I like the flatter profile of the Hoosier slick and apparently changing the tire is out of the question anymore 😕
Stellar review 🔥 the one thing that I would love to hear more on is steep hills....how does the GT handle going DOWN steep hills compared to the XR...is tail drag an issue with the GT on hills that it is not with the XR? Thanks again for the exceptional review🤙
@@AustenHartleySick🔥 99% sure I will own a GT real soon....I will hold out for now though until I see how they handle the firm ware issues...really hoping they get the ghost-buster fixed and push back issue handled soon!
@@thebeardedman-drenaline5546 haha I think that’s a good call - I am assuming it will be fixed ASAP here. They are shipping so many boards it will be priority 1 for them. Without the ghosting the board is amazing.. I was very impressed.
Just watched your vid. I have an xr, live in Calgary and my 3 month old son is named Austin. I like my xr it's plenty fast ya could use more range. Mines all white and I ride with a halo icon airframe helmet
The fenders are available on your Etsy I assume? Also where did you get that Tesla charging station? Is that a "battery charger"? Do your print those? I'd love one
Thank you for the video! 😀 There is one thing I don't understand ... You stated, "... if you are someone who currently has an XR with a CBXR battery upgrade ..." I hear (and read) so many people talk about getting a CBXR battery upgrade and I understand what it does BUT ... Do I NEED to get a CBXR battery upgrade?? I love my XR and I know that I don't have the range as a GT or someone with a CBXR battery upgrade. Ok, aaaannnnd??? It seems to me based on the short history of the OneWheel and human nature that many people will never be satisfied with the speed and range of a OneWheel until either it's the fastest PEV on the market and/or the number of deaths from the riding a OneWheel at high speed become a concern for all. After all, I can get more range and speed (2x - 3x) by riding an electric skateboard. Sure, I give up some of the coolness, uniqueness, and benefits of a OneWheel but nothing can be perfect - including a OneWheel. So, let's say - 5 years from now - the max speed and range of a OneWheel is the same at the current GT. Do you think you would be still just as excited to ride a OneWheel as you are today? I know I would. I'm going to continue to hold off on the GT (as I normally do with first editions) until they address the ghosting and "fishtailing" issues. Until then I'll ride my XR until it dies 😎🤙
haha basically I think its worth the upgrade from XR to GT. BUT if you have an XR that already has the CBRX, and you like your board exactly how it is the GT MIGHT not make a huge difference. Personally - I think it still makes a pretty big difference, but is it worth the money to upgrade at that point - it depends on the rider.
coming from v1 to XR to CBXR, the range is worth it. The biggest benefit to CBXR is added consistent power output from the larger battery. also not having range anxiety on trails and longer city tours is worth it. that being said if you're on a stock XR battery AND are wanting more range, i would sell the XR and buy the GT hands down.
@@anthonytran3584 Sure. I understand what you are saying. I guess what I am still trying to understand is where or when does it all end?? It seems to me that even though the GT and/or a CBXR battery gives you better range now - what happens a year to two from now (maybe sooner) when 20 - 30 miles is not enough - people start becoming weary of being able to only ride 30 miles before having to charge. It happened with the v1, the XR, the Pint, and the Pint X. Human nature tells me that even if Future Motion created a OnwWheel that had a range of 100 miles some people will still complain and want to get more range. "What Wrong With The Range You Got?" (I should create a meme for that - LOL)After all, we can only drive our cars for some given range before we have to stop and fill it with gas. It's a given. And if I run out of gas before I get to the next gas station then it's my fault in bad planning.
For $500 cheaper you can have an inmotion v12 HT with a knobby tire with all the water resistance included you can use the $500 to get a high speed charger and jump pads that you can use to actually catch air off anything you want. And it's tough as nails. With 30mile real world range. Not to mention it goes almost 40mph. Climbs 35 degree inclines with ease. These onewheels are overpriced and under the bar when it comes to speed and quality. I'm so glad I lost interest in these and bought an EUC instead. Since November I've learned to ride and ridden 700 miles mixed on and offroad. PS: My EXN HT goes up and down mountains all day, with regenerative braking and 40mile real world range in the worst conditions. Most days I can go between 50-70miles with ease and only have to get off if I want to take a break. Save your money folks, get an EUC.
Hey Austen! How is the GT compared to the XR in terms of precenting nose dives offroad? My pint X seems to hold its own, but every now and then it'll dive when I hit a bump that pushes the board a little too far and can't correct the forward motion and it dives. I want a stronger board that is very confident offroad and won't throw me forward! I never go over 16mph on the grass and I only weigh 140lbs and I try to ride with my weight towards the rear but still every once in a while it gets me and I'm starting to get frustrated! Ugh
It will be a world of a difference ! Especially at 140lbs you will be cruising over them ! It was one of my biggest complaints with the XR was when it can’t get over the little bumps - solved now with the gt 🤙
On my xr I needed both feet on and the front foot touching both sensors. Why am I able to just touch both sensors on the front and have the board go? Is that a form of ghosting?
GT absolutely needs a mode that allows adjustable pushback or minimal like the xr. Its an oxymoron to have the flagship model have a lower top speed than the xr and a potentially uncomfortable ride at the top end. Also, it's a bit of an insult to people who prefer to rely on their own ability to keep the board in its limits while pushing it. And the thing is called the GT so yeah, needs to have highest top speed period. Just in one mode fine, call it racing mode and put a clickable warning when entering the mode for liability and safety. FM is balancing a fine line of fear of lawsuits and happy customers and loyal riders who built up and represented the company in the first place. Hope they make some moves to show some respect and improve the experience.
Awesome full review. I’m a high stakes kinda person and have the need to push everything as far as it can go. Even though that’s not your style, i really appreciate you being one of the few quality CZcamsrs to include my perspective.
Other than not needing to remove the rails to install, how are these rim protectors different than what the Float Life offers? I've been looking for a form of protection, and if these offer the same level of protection with less effort, it seems like a no brainer.
Hey Drew. I actually haven’t seen or used a pair of float life’s so I’m not totally sure. Ours are more of a rubber like material that goes over the rim though where as it looks like theirs is a harder plastic.
Define "push back". Does it mean that you reach max speed and it stops acceleration or does it mean that it automatically deccelerates on it's own to a much slower speed?
@@AustenHartley it's not simply about going "fast", it's more accurate to say that you're entering the part of the motor's speed/torque curve where the board is becoming unable to provide enough torque to keep the nose up. There's a good FM video about it: czcams.com/video/WGn7iPN07XI/video.html
Onewheel GT Accessories Video - Top 5
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I know Anthony in person he now rides a euc
This video is frustrating. On one side, we have a great product that seems fun, built with a lot of thought and engineering. I'd probably take it everywhere with all that range and power it has.
On the other side, we have greedy businessmen that introduced "features" that brick your device if you unplug the battery. In a product that only has a 6 months warranty and that you have to ship back to USA if anything wrong happens. And all, under the "it's for your safety" excuse.
I really was excited to get this one. Not anymore.
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While I do agree with right to repair initiatives, it is worth clarifying that the board only bricks if you unplug the battery from the BMS (battery management system) and is able to be unplugged from the main controller. In theory if you needed a new battery unit, future motion could provide just that part without you having to send in the whole board.
Ghosting Update - Future Motion got back to me and are sending me a new front footpad. I asked specifically if it was hardware or firmware and here's what they said "your reported problem is not a software issue, it is likely related to the footpad itself". So hopefully for anyone that got the first batch of boards, if they have any ghosting issues they should get a new footpad and problem solved. Will test out the new footpad and put a little follow up to see if it solved the issue !
Thanks everyone for watching - hope this video helps 🤙.
That’s a HUGE safety issue-not knowing if the board will just randomly go rogue, keeping going down the street without you on it and plow into a crowd of kids at 30mph. Man they better address that SERIOUSLY!
"I asked specifically if it was hardware or firmware and here's what they said, "your reported problem is not a software issue, it is likely related to the footpad itself".
they did this purposely, they said it was the footpad but it's not, its them not taking responsibility for a mass recall. also, if you change the battery with another One-wheel brand new it bricks the board itself- it's basically a company who is "anti-right to repair" you don't own you're one wheel even after buying it.
@@Bositive_ Exactly, I love how they KNOW that it's not a software issue but they said it is LIKELY the footpad.
Have you had any more ghosting issues, since replacing the footpad?
Thank you
Thank you for the suprise ride. Coming from +18,000 kms now with 2 cbxrs, I couldn't agree more. The magic of the board is that it makes you forget where it came from (until repair time, but that's another issue). Feels very familiar, has so much promise and is Indeed confidence inspiring... Can be dangerous if you step back onto any other stock FM boards. Rider skill is required much later/faster so that's a double edged sword in my opinion ;) Catch you on the trails so we can see how it truly shines 🤙
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Dang! This guy has by far the best review period on CZcams.
Everyone wants to suger coat the issues between the XR and the GT. He just gives it to us straight so that we can make an educated buying decision. That's all any consumer can ask for. NO LIES, JUST ANSWERS.
Thank you so much
Appreciate you ! And 100% !
@As the World Burns because they will not support the repair community. Essentially doing anything other than aesthetics to the board will void the warranty and they also monopolize the availability of oem parts.
@As the World Burns the other aspect is that they will not support the board at all after the so called warranty sticker have been broken. Even to change a tire. On the GT as soon as you disconnect the connector from BMS to controller the board is designed to create an error and you have no choice but to pay them to correct it IF they even will.
Great review! And good video! I'm also concerned about the ghosting issue. I've had it happen in the past on older boards and it's the most terrifying thing. Riding demands trust in the board and when that trust is shaky, then honestly the ride sucks. That being said... I can't wait to get mine! SO excited for it!
Can't wait for the Wren review of the GT. I love the range & torque, but the footpads dig into my feet, and the round tire is not my favorite. Looking forward to TFL, or C&R to start pumping out accessories
You're going to love the extra torque on the board. the normal nose dips when riding/carving at speed and hitting bumps is corrected super quick with the new tune...that sidewall is noticeable though. good thing TFL has a new tire coming soon.
Thanks SirWrender ! I agree, confidence in the board is super important ! I'm thinking the new footpad will fix the issue and I assume all of the units they're currently sending out already have the fixed footpad version in them.
Cheers !
@sirwrender Please try to reach out to future motion against the new security of the GT. Starting with the GT onewheels are slowly becoming like Iphones in the fact that if you so much as unplug the battery the whole board will be bricked. You have a big enough onewheel following on corridor crew that I think FM might listen to you.
a ghosting board is the most dangerous. All it takes is one loose board to run into the road and cause a car crash that terminally hurts someone.
Whose liability is that - mine, or future motion's?
And then it's a lawsuit and then it's a lock down on all motorized board riders.
Man, the quality in this video is insane. I was first drawn to it by the Kickers because I haven't seen anyone else riding with them, but then I stayed for the rest of the video because it was so well put together and narrated. Definitely a well earned sub to the channel 🤙
Thank you man !! Appreciate it
@@AustenHartley hey what was the rumors about the improvements with the software update that’s coming?
The fact that future motion made it so you can't even unplug the battery without bricking it tell me everything I need to know about them!
@Matthew Hayslett why add the $ instead of just an S
@Matthew Hayslett kinda. The thing with modding and repairing yourself is that on company perspective if anything goes wrong they get the blame. Some people know what they are doing - some dont and do anyways. Some use quality parts - some save a buck and buy from Wish or something. I know this is what companies use as an excuse to hinder repairs but it kinda hard balance. Also legislation differs by countries so somewhere it might be easier to offer self repair than elsewhere.
@@Rinssi_from_Finland It's not a hard balance at all. There are thousands of ways to hurt yourself in everyday life, yet nobody blames the companies making nails if somebody decides to eat them or the people making skateboards when somebody fails a jump. If they want to protect themselves all that is needed is a clear warning saying "You being stupid is not our fault". There will always be the occational nutjob that will blame them for something but that will always happen, no matter what the 'balance' is so that never changes.
The only reason for hinder/stop repairs is money. Future Motion want's more of it and the easiest way to get it was to be as hostile to their consumers as they could possibly get away with, plain and simple.
@Matthew Hayslett what is apple doing rn?
@@firaphex2824 that doesn’t matter. “One wheel catches fire” is a far more catchy news headline than “one wheel catches fire after a knockoff battery replacement”.
their anti right to repair stance and all the glitches this thing has, the GT is a bust (for now) imo. FM has gone from admirable to disappointing to me this year. I get wanting this board and being excited about the device's potential. But there's no way am I rewarding FM with a purchase with all the issues on this board. I hope they change their anti consumer practices and fix the glitches and then maybe one day I'll feel like they've earned my purchase (because I'd love to have a GT). Until then I'll just keep riding my OW+ (and regret never upgrading to the XR lol)
Matthew, you said it perfectly!!! Your thoughts here mirror mine perfectly. Fingers crossed that Future Motion would read this and listen!! Then and only then will you and I be seen on the GT. Like I said....fingers crossed!
The board may be pretty good, but I am not dropping that much money on something I can't maintain locally since the company that makes these has sketcky practices. I'll stick to my bike :)
I'm loving my GT so far. Plan on getting out today and getting some miles in around the local lake.
Biking is nice but nothing compared to euforic feeling floating
@Matthew Hayslett you try to to hard mod, upgrade / remove battery, or just fix electrical problems they'll brick your board with no option of refund sur Ron is the way too go. But personally I couldn't imagine paying 2200 for something that can't carry me up a 40 degree angle
What a clown. If your into bikes stick to it. How can you compare a bike to a onewheel. Go watch some bike videos and make comments there.
@Killer Willies Hey, thanks for writing this comment. That's all really good info. I'd never heard of Sur-Ron before. That thing looks siiiiick. Really expensive though.
Was strongly considering just getting a new GT but after all the comments about the battery and repair practices it’s a firm “No” for me. Great video….was 98% there! Gotta love capitalism!
@@benjamintaje I would go for a pint in the hopes of I could pass it to my wife so we could ride together but I don’t that will work.
looks nice and this is a good review! only issue is after 3 minutes of searching it seems if you buy this you are vendor locked and cannot do anything by yourself.
apple practices ? HUGE NO!
Don’t try to replace the battery on your GT yourself. Doing so will turn your GT into a brick. Future Motion is the only one who can change out your battery. It’s called building up your future customer base. Additionally, what ghosting? Future Motion deletes any posts regarding ghosting at their forum. Buy used, you will save even more money.
Damn. So I guess ordering a spare battery or two for long rides is out of the question?
@@otherkorean Better answered by Future Motion. I was referring to generic battery replacement.
Due to the anti consumer practices of this company and how they brick your board due to a battery swap, NO ONE should be supporting them.
Forcing them to change their practices will only benefit the end user. Their claims of "safety" are BS.
@@mariomeza3514 you have the send the board into their ONLY repair station to get replaced. They dont sell the batteries nor do DIY batteries or off the shelf batteries work. One company got around this but FM is throwing a frivolous lawsuit at them claiming copyright infringement.
There is no other consumer product that currently matches the one-wheel, that is part of the reason why they are doing all these little dirty business practices to try to have a monopoly on the situation
There's plenty of DIY builders that are on their way to creating a firmware that works just as well as whatever-it-is future motion is using
Austen should talk about the battery replacement issue with the GT as well. That is a MASSIVE issue with this new model.
I will mention it in the next one ! It wasn't really on the radar when I posted this haha.
@@AustenHartley Appreciate it man!
And that is .... Only FM can do it I assume?
The ghosting is definitely a huge issue. I actually got hurt because it went backwards after getting off, forcing me into doing the splits and partially tearing my lateral knee ligament. I contacted Future-motion, and they call it a “sticky pad”. I just got it back, but I’m still too insured to ride it. I have to admit, I’m not sure if they truly have a fix for it and if my board is now actually fixed. It will be serval month, before I can ride it again. I have had my pint for several years and was very happy with it. The GT sounded like the perfect upgrade, but if that problem is not fixed, that makes this board extremely dangerous to ride!
Still wort the money?
I would absolutely love it if we got to pick how aggressive the push back is, some time in the future!
Thoughts on the fact unplugging the battery now bricks the board?
Crickets...... 😒
These make me wish I was young again. They look so fun 😊
Hey man love the vids , I can’t believe you don’t have more subs.
How is the GT today. Have the issues been fixed? Still works well? Considering purchasing. Thanks
I'm 74 years old and have never had a broken bone and have never been on a one wheel but I just might buy one of these things.
If you cannot do 20 good form squats and or jog for a half of mile comfortably I wouldn't do it sir. With all due respect.
I’ve absolutely loved my XR and wanted to upgrade. But I’d never buy any products future motion offers.
No right to repair and no possibility to upgrade. I’m fine with a stock board. But I’d like to know it can be repaired without being bricked. Bullshit.
An easy way to make GT more your own and make it more to each individual rider is to add a push back bar under the under construction custom mode so you can adjust everything there and just ride how and what you want, also put a warning that weak push back is not safe and is not recommended (insert disclaimer) along with all the other adjustments..
Phenomenal review. Best on CZcams to date. Thank you!!!
Thank you!
I want the GT but I have a XR. I'll probably buy one when they fix all the software issues and glitches. The range alone and less charge time is what sells it to me.
Much to think about. I’ll see how feel post firmware update with regards to ghosting. Seeing way too many ghosting issues online so far.
Great to see some local shredding in Calgary. I sure hope they went to metric fasteners. You could also mention the lower mileage has something to do with the temperature out. I have to wait till it's 10C out before I can ride to work on my XR.
Calgary as in Canada ? do the law have any problems with people riding these on the streets etc ?
I'm 58 and I want one, probably buy one now. Would you recommend for some older people??
I would say go try one from a local seller or your local Onewheel group and see if you like it and feel comfortable on it !
I have a mag handle on the XR, lots of people dont care but I like having both handles as someone who rides every day I can say both handles have situations where they’re appreciatedz
yeah after a couple weeks now I put it back on haha. The board is too heavy to carry far without it.
So one of these things are worth the close to $4000 price tag with all the bells and whistles?
How much uphill does it cover?
What are those things on top of the board I didn’t see you touch on those too much in your video
Hey, Anyone know if they finally fixed the ghosting👻 issue??
Also why don’t they put a tire pressure monitor system on the board. Would be a sweet, easy feature to make.
I like that a lot !
Wow nice! I'm from Manitoba and would like to know where you bought your GT?
Awesome review. I'm not a owner yet. I read every comment before asking this question to avoid duplicates. You say the vast majority go with the treaded tire and that is what you would recommend. I'm very interested as to why. I had solidly chosen to go with the slick tire for the quiet ride as I saw a video where someone "upgraded" to a treaded tire on the older model. It was pretty noisy. I'd love to hear yours' and other's thoughts on treaded versus slick tires. Thank you again for a great review.
I've ridden both ! I'd go with the treaded !
Slick is great if you are JUST doing city riding in a place with good weather. If you plan to do any trails or ride where the weather changes a lot, the treaded is (in my opinion) the better option.
Same reason you drive your car with treaded tires and not race slicks. Riding over any type of standing water and you have a very high chance of sliding. It also allows for more traction in imperfect road conditions (gravel, dirt, sand, rocks)
Yoooo! Thank you for the killer review! Would you be willing to make a more indepth video about waterproofing the GT? If not, maybe share links to some reliable sources? Thank you!
I love watching your videos because I’ve lived in Calgary for so many years, so cool watching you riding around where I used to go on my boosted board years ago!
Got to share, I won 2 grand in Vegas came come and saw the gt video 6 hours after released and said I have to get it! Broke even but thank onewheel I'm so excited since October
Great Video man! Getting mine here soon and hope the first batch gremlins aren’t a concern. Seeing this makes me excited for late night rips around Downtown Calgary👌
Can you ride it through the rain or should you put sealant on first thing. And if you should put it on first thing where should it seal it?
Still waiting for my GT, but I PREFER a much stronger pushback in theory. The XR was way too subtle. I specifically ordered a GT for more torque for more safety and confidence.
If they updated the pushback at all, I would only want them to do it as a customizable limited threshold on the app, so that way the default is to have it all the way up and those wanting to be more daring can tweak it a little down within reason.
But honestly, I personally can’t take “more noticeable pushback” as a good complaint in my book, especially since it’s already happening LATER than the XR, which is great to know it has the power to do so.
It’s a safety precaution based on available power, not an arbitrary “no fun allowed” rule.
It’s possible it’s set to be a little reserved, but it’s there for good reasons.
And the thing is, they didn’t remove the ability to push through pushback, it’s just harder to do than the XR apparently, so people can still do that if they choose. And the Onewheel I don’t personally feel is designed to even be a speed machine in the first place.
I dunno, that’s my 2 cents.
I think the push back is more to try and protect the company then it is to protect people. You never know what it will take for someone to sue them. Otherwise they would've heard that same complaint, because EVERYONE said the same about it. They could've allowed for more, but keeping it at 20 mph is definitely something I'm sure they thought long and hard about. I guess that people could sign a waiver if they want to be able to adjust the push back though.
I have a pint x as my first onewheel and I did it because of the subtle pushback of the XR and the high likelihood of failure to recognize and respect it. I have zero desire to join the nosedive crew. You have to view pushback, on the device, as the HR department of a company… It is there to assist you while protecting the asset. I was slightly startled with the pushback on the pint x, but there is no confusion on what it is, and the respect that it enlightens you with. I do not think that they will ever release a custom pushback, nor do I believe that it is necessary. Remember…HR… lol.
Wow. People in this thread are NOT impressed with future motions business practices hahah
hahaha not at all. 10/10 product. 1/10 business practices.
Hey man, love the review on the one wheel. Anyways I'd like to ask, what is the brand of the cycling helmet that Anthony is wearing is I may ask?
Just bought me a pint x today 8/26 ..I can’t wait to,demo it @ very young 65 ..c u on the trails
my onewheel XR got stolen
The fact that it doesnt come with the port cover is a huge red flag. Thanks for the honest review.
That’s one sweet looking board, mate! I may steal that look!
Thanks !
I believe the ghosting issue is strictly just the front sensor. FM will send you a new one for return of the old one for free due to the ghosting
This is the correct answer. Ghosting is from a faulty footpad. Austen, be sure to reach out to FM support and they will send you a replacement pad for free. I had to do this as well and it was very quick and painless. There is no reason to risk future ghosting issues that could potentially break or injure something or someone. Great video! Keep up the good work.
@@Trail_Clydesdale Thank you ! I have sent them a message about it, I'll see what they say and put a little update in so people know. If its a simple front footpad swap I'll be pleased !
@@AustenHartley just came from a short ride and my GT ghosted on hard stops 3 times.
Got it twice on video. Really hoping there’s a fix for this, this board rocks but this is a serious safety issue.
Thanks for the video, first time seeing your channel. I got my GT on Thursday and on 2nd ride on Sunday had multiple ghosting issues. Caught a couple of them on video (LMK if you want to see them) where the board just took off and could have been bad depending on what it hit. I took advice from your video and sent a msg to FM. Not sure if they will replace it, but I had the carbon fender and that is pretty wrecked now from when the board popped up in the air and landed right on it. Bigger issue is the danger of a 35lb board traveling uncontrolled at 35mph. (caught that data on the app)
@@thewaffler7942 Ohhh man they should definitely replace it, 100% send them some photos and a video of it !!
I just found out about these less than like 3 hours ago and I want one lmao. I'm worried about stuff people are saying though, like spontaneous combustion or ghosting.
I'm not sure about spontaneous combustion but ghosting seems to be an issue.
Great review! What psi are you rocking with for the treaded tire?
That was stock right out of the box ! Didn't measure but whatever it comes with, I think it's stated online or in another video somewhere.
@@AustenHartley I would check the psi with a cheap gauge because I saw another video where the guys tire was at 32psi out of box
I don't own one. But out on dirt trails, idk if its the same as a off-roading vehicle tires but is better to lower your psi. That way it grabs more to the dirt and is not rounded. When on the road, is okay to have it at regular psi that the tire shows. You guys should test that.
@@cherokeebear5302 yeah. I think it all depends on the type or road u are riding on most.
Great video man!! Couple of questions. Where did you get the Air Tag sticky box and the plug for the charge port?
Link in Description !!
Hey idk the odds you’ll see this random comment, but what device is it you use to open the box in this video?
Amazing man. Thank you so much. Very much appreciate how thorough you were. 🙏
Not going to even watch the video. Don't buy this product. Any company that doesn't let you own a device that costs a fortune should not be given any rational debate or air time. Zero tolerance.
If one company gets away with this and makes a profit, everyone else will do it.
Not acceptable.
Coming from someone who has been thinking about buying one, how hard was it to learn to ride it?
2 hours in a smooth/empty parking lot you'll feel pretty confident. The one thing I would suggest is learn out to float (ride) both ways and turn both ways before you leave that parking lot. Most OW riders do not know how to float switch (right or left foot forward) and they end up in tricky situations on the street.
Dude your board looks so dope🙆
Thanks man ! :)
Hey Austen, I'm in Calgary too and just bought a GT today....wanna go for a rip sometime?
I heard the slick tire is a rounded Pint style. I like the flatter profile of the Hoosier slick and apparently changing the tire is out of the question anymore 😕
Well said, I was worried about trading up my XR.
I still can't wait for 3rd party parts!!
I'd love to see a comparison of the GT and XR on the same hills.
GT crushes the XR on the hills ! Probably one of the biggest differences !
Stellar review 🔥 the one thing that I would love to hear more on is steep hills....how does the GT handle going DOWN steep hills compared to the XR...is tail drag an issue with the GT on hills that it is not with the XR? Thanks again for the exceptional review🤙
100% !! It crushes ! Each hill from the video that we went up we also went down a bunch and never had a tail drag 🤙
@@AustenHartleySick🔥 99% sure I will own a GT real soon....I will hold out for now though until I see how they handle the firm ware issues...really hoping they get the ghost-buster fixed and push back issue handled soon!
@@thebeardedman-drenaline5546 haha I think that’s a good call - I am assuming it will be fixed ASAP here. They are shipping so many boards it will be priority 1 for them. Without the ghosting the board is amazing.. I was very impressed.
Whats about for a big guy 260 lbs in a steep city ? Do it will go up ?
the fact that the board costing 2200 dlls doesnt come with all those accesories by default is kinda douchebaggy tbh
Especially the charge port cover. Wtf. Does it have a valve stem cap or is that extra too?
Best review so far. Thanks. Where are those life savers from?
Thanks James ! Linked in the Description !
What is your opinion on the anti right to repair that future motion is showing
Will discuss in next video !
Great video, I lived in Calgary for 18 years, wish I had a Onewheel then haha. So much territory to ride in!
I had a question for long time : can I do 3D printing in my bedroom? Cuz I don't have enough space and don't have a good air conditioner
Do you have to pay a monthly all the time? Or is it false? If you pay a monthly how long do you have to pay it
I have never ridden one and don’t quite understand what “pushback” is. Could someone kindly explain please? Thanks
Has the ghosting issue been resolved?
Just watched your vid. I have an xr, live in Calgary and my 3 month old son is named Austin. I like my xr it's plenty fast ya could use more range. Mines all white and I ride with a halo icon airframe helmet
Oh wicked !! I'm sure we've crossed paths !
The fenders are available on your Etsy I assume? Also where did you get that Tesla charging station? Is that a "battery charger"? Do your print those? I'd love one
Yes they are :) and that is just something I designed and printed haha
Thank you for the video! 😀 There is one thing I don't understand ...
You stated, "... if you are someone who currently has an XR with a CBXR battery upgrade ..." I hear (and read) so many people talk about getting a CBXR battery upgrade and I understand what it does BUT ... Do I NEED to get a CBXR battery upgrade?? I love my XR and I know that I don't have the range as a GT or someone with a CBXR battery upgrade. Ok, aaaannnnd???
It seems to me based on the short history of the OneWheel and human nature that many people will never be satisfied with the speed and range of a OneWheel until either it's the fastest PEV on the market and/or the number of deaths from the riding a OneWheel at high speed become a concern for all. After all, I can get more range and speed (2x - 3x) by riding an electric skateboard. Sure, I give up some of the coolness, uniqueness, and benefits of a OneWheel but nothing can be perfect - including a OneWheel.
So, let's say - 5 years from now - the max speed and range of a OneWheel is the same at the current GT. Do you think you would be still just as excited to ride a OneWheel as you are today?
I know I would.
I'm going to continue to hold off on the GT (as I normally do with first editions) until they address the ghosting and "fishtailing" issues. Until then I'll ride my XR until it dies 😎🤙
haha basically I think its worth the upgrade from XR to GT. BUT if you have an XR that already has the CBRX, and you like your board exactly how it is the GT MIGHT not make a huge difference. Personally - I think it still makes a pretty big difference, but is it worth the money to upgrade at that point - it depends on the rider.
coming from v1 to XR to CBXR, the range is worth it. The biggest benefit to CBXR is added consistent power output from the larger battery. also not having range anxiety on trails and longer city tours is worth it. that being said if you're on a stock XR battery AND are wanting more range, i would sell the XR and buy the GT hands down.
@@anthonytran3584 Sure. I understand what you are saying. I guess what I am still trying to understand is where or when does it all end?? It seems to me that even though the GT and/or a CBXR battery gives you better range now - what happens a year to two from now (maybe sooner) when 20 - 30 miles is not enough - people start becoming weary of being able to only ride 30 miles before having to charge. It happened with the v1, the XR, the Pint, and the Pint X. Human nature tells me that even if Future Motion created a OnwWheel that had a range of 100 miles some people will still complain and want to get more range. "What Wrong With The Range You Got?" (I should create a meme for that - LOL)After all, we can only drive our cars for some given range before we have to stop and fill it with gas. It's a given. And if I run out of gas before I get to the next gas station then it's my fault in bad planning.
Does the rims protetor come with two pieces? I loved your yellow ones and I really want to buy for my friends birthday.
Yeah they come as a set !
I want one now more than ever with this review!!!!
For $500 cheaper you can have an inmotion v12 HT with a knobby tire with all the water resistance included you can use the $500 to get a high speed charger and jump pads that you can use to actually catch air off anything you want. And it's tough as nails. With 30mile real world range. Not to mention it goes almost 40mph. Climbs 35 degree inclines with ease. These onewheels are overpriced and under the bar when it comes to speed and quality. I'm so glad I lost interest in these and bought an EUC instead. Since November I've learned to ride and ridden 700 miles mixed on and offroad.
PS: My EXN HT goes up and down mountains all day, with regenerative braking and 40mile real world range in the worst conditions. Most days I can go between 50-70miles with ease and only have to get off if I want to take a break. Save your money folks, get an EUC.
People don’t want unicycles
@@AegisReflector says you. Onewheels are slow, that's an actual fact.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot I wasn’t talking about speed or defending one wheel
I’d honestly rather have a E scooter
@@AegisReflector they're cool too. Cost more per mile than OW's and EUC's tho.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot I think the apprehension for most people is the balancing but you definitely get the more value for your money
Why did your headlight stay on in the rear while riding?
Did you adjust the tire pressure? The egg shape tire is making hard to balance the board and wobbles awkwardly due to the tire shape
Yeah the GT tire takes some getting used to. Low pressure helps, especially for the trails.
What is the weight limit of those things?
A year later, how’s the push back ?
When did yours arrive im still waiting
Hey Austen! How is the GT compared to the XR in terms of precenting nose dives offroad? My pint X seems to hold its own, but every now and then it'll dive when I hit a bump that pushes the board a little too far and can't correct the forward motion and it dives. I want a stronger board that is very confident offroad and won't throw me forward! I never go over 16mph on the grass and I only weigh 140lbs and I try to ride with my weight towards the rear but still every once in a while it gets me and I'm starting to get frustrated! Ugh
It will be a world of a difference ! Especially at 140lbs you will be cruising over them ! It was one of my biggest complaints with the XR was when it can’t get over the little bumps - solved now with the gt 🤙
On my xr I needed both feet on and the front foot touching both sensors.
Why am I able to just touch both sensors on the front and have the board go? Is that a form of ghosting?
Yo! Could you make a video where you go more into detail where you put your air tag. And I got a pint x.
What is pushback?
whats the wait of the GT ?????? please
GT absolutely needs a mode that allows adjustable pushback or minimal like the xr. Its an oxymoron to have the flagship model have a lower top speed than the xr and a potentially uncomfortable ride at the top end. Also, it's a bit of an insult to people who prefer to rely on their own ability to keep the board in its limits while pushing it. And the thing is called the GT so yeah, needs to have highest top speed period. Just in one mode fine, call it racing mode and put a clickable warning when entering the mode for liability and safety. FM is balancing a fine line of fear of lawsuits and happy customers and loyal riders who built up and represented the company in the first place. Hope they make some moves to show some respect and improve the experience.
*Now go ahead and try to replace the battery or fix something on it yourself and see what happens!!*
My friend unplugged his battery for storage and now it’s a paper weight.
What "flight fins" are you using? The wedge pro?
Link in description !
Awesome full review. I’m a high stakes kinda person and have the need to push everything as far as it can go. Even though that’s not your style, i really appreciate you being one of the few quality CZcamsrs to include my perspective.
How did you remove the Mag handle? I want to remove mine
Other than not needing to remove the rails to install, how are these rim protectors different than what the Float Life offers? I've been looking for a form of protection, and if these offer the same level of protection with less effort, it seems like a no brainer.
Hey Drew. I actually haven’t seen or used a pair of float life’s so I’m not totally sure. Ours are more of a rubber like material that goes over the rim though where as it looks like theirs is a harder plastic.
I know you said that you were in Canada but does it ship to Canada because on the onewheel website it was unclear
Yeah they do haha all good.
Define "push back". Does it mean that you reach max speed and it stops acceleration or does it mean that it automatically deccelerates on it's own to a much slower speed?
Ah just the nose of the board comes up a bit to warn you you're going fast.
@@AustenHartley it's not simply about going "fast", it's more accurate to say that you're entering the part of the motor's speed/torque curve where the board is becoming unable to provide enough torque to keep the nose up. There's a good FM video about it: czcams.com/video/WGn7iPN07XI/video.html
Aren’t the rear lights red when you ride forward? 9:42 looks white
Are you in Calgary??? It looks like your riding in the city.
Yessir !
Great production quality 👍