Redcat Racing Volcano EPX metal upgrades and my costs
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- * Note that the Dukono wheelie bar requires trimming to fit under the slot where the rear bumper slides under and cutting the body to clear. I added sheet metal and screws going all the way through for reinforcement since it can take the full weight sometimes.
With the brushless upgrade, this RC can get out of my control and I have broken most of the parts that I have upgraded except for the shock towers and differential boxes. I have wanted to get an all aluminum RC and this was a perfect oppoortunity.
I am really surprised how easily and cheaply you can upgrade this RC. Parts are available on ebay, Amazon, Banggood & Aliexpress. I suppose that is due to the fact that it's been on the market a few years under at least four brands that I am aware of - Redcat, HPI Racing Maverick Strada MT, Exceed RC Infinitive and HSP 94111 Brontosaurus. Of course that last name makes no sense at all! I know the brushed version is no speed demon but it isn't that slow either. It's probably inline with all the others in that class.
I could upgrade the shocks to aluminum but I don't think it will improve the suspension because it is already quite good.
I do need to upgrade the tires as one is already coming unglued. I would like tires that don't balloon much for better controlled accelaration. If you have any recommendations please comment below.
Detailed costs listed below and parts shown at end of video. Parts correspond to the letters listed. Additionally, you will have to add M3 machine screws to replace the self tapping screws normally used in plastic parts.
A - - - Battery & charger, used in other RCs
B - - - Traxxas Velineon VXL3S brushless ESC & 3500kv motor, leftover from previous RC
C - - - 20KG Digital Servo High Torque Full Metal Gear Waterproof & aluminum servo horn
D - - - $109.55 Redcat Racing Volcano EPX Electric Truck, 1/10 Scale - WITHOUT Battery & Charger
E $1 - - - 5.53 Redcat Racing Volcano EPX Pro 64T Metal Spur Gear 21T Metal Pinion Motor Mount & Cover
F - - - $12.49 HSP 108019 Aluminum Front Lower Suspension Arms, Purple for Redcat Volcano EPX
G - - - $13.25 HSP 108021 Aluminum Rear Lower Suspension Arms, Purple for Redcat Volcano EPX
H - - - $6.22 HSP 02134 Purple Aluminum 12mm Wheel Hex Hubs Pins Redcat Shockwave Volcano EPX
I - - - $24.14 HSP Aluminum Steering Block Knuckles Hub Carriers (P) Redcat Tornado Volcano EPX and bearings
J - - - $13.25 HSP 08029 FR/RR 89mm Drive Shaft HEAVY DUTY Dogbones (4) Redcat Volcano EPX PRO
K - - - $14.98 Hobbypark 04001 Metal Aluminum Chassis Plate for RC Electric 1/10 Redcat Volcano EPX
L - - - $10.99 Hobbypark 102057 Aluminum Servo Saver Complete Set Ackerman Plate Purple for Redcat Volcano Epx
M - - - $16.98 Hobbypark 6PCS 106017 106617 Aluminum Turnbuckle Steering Linkage Rod for 1/10 Redcat Volcano EPX
N - - - $10.99 HobbyPark 102260 102261 Aluminum Front & Rear Gear Box Suspension Arm Mount For Redcat Volcano EPX
O - - - $30.44 Aluminum Gear Box HSP 102075 Purple Fit RC Redcat Racing 1/10 Lightning EPX 94103, front & rear
P - - - $24.30 108022 HSP Shock Tower For RC 1/10 Monster Truck 08012 08054 Upgrade Spare Part
Q - - - $3.70 108037 HSP Body Post For RC 1/10 Monster Truck 08007 08047 Upgrade Spare Parts
R - - - $17.95 Redcat Dukono PRO Wheelie Bar Mount Adjustment Bracket 70106 70108 70135
$306.81 =Total
Super nice setup. It's the nicest looking Volcano out there. Good performance as well. 🏁🏁
Learned a lot about RCs with that Volcano. Even enjoyed the process of working with it as well as running it!
This makes me miss my old volcano. Sadly I sold it 5 years ago
This Volcano - and all it's rebranded versions, are a perfectly fun rc to run!
I have this same truck but in red , and definitely want to make it faster and I'm new to the hobby as well any and all help would be greatly appreciated of possible, order the hop up kit for it already . Thank you again for any and all help you can provide
There are plenty of speed options depending only on how fast you want to go. I went with a brushless ESC and motor using a Traxxas Velineon system in my previous video -> czcams.com/video/nMDp4XIPiUM/video.html
This gets about 45mph in my previous video -> czcams.com/video/WtWaybRwiqc/video.html
That system was an older version leftover I had and it cogs too much for me so I am searching for a replacement. This is a 36mm X 55mm 3500KV motor with a 3.175mm shaft diameter and there are many options available everywhere depending on just how much you want to pay.
Keep in mind that when you do these things, parts not intended for so much stress will break . . . but I find that part of the hobby fun!
Hey buddy if you change your hex to 17mm adapter's from Amazon that would make a huge difference. I have the same truck but with different upgrades love your video
Wow, I would like to see that monster truck when you get it posted! I have tried 17mm adapters on another RC but as predicted, the whole drivetrain was destroyed!
I love this build you did
Thanks. Finding all metal upgrades so easily available was a pleasant surprise.
Nice truck! ;)
Thanks! And it runs pretty fast too . . . ;-)
I have a redcat volcano exp yes I am a newbie but I’ve been watching a lot of vids and your vids are detailed and impressive. My question is I start low so once I start to upgrade I have the knowledge I want to upgrade the volcano motor to brushless and yes I will upgrade with the suggested mods what’s a good start of motor
Well it's half the fun learning as you go and tear up parts. The Redcat Volcano Pro brushless setup uses a 3300kv 540 size motor and a 2S to 3S brushless ESC like a Hobbywing WP 10BL60 can probably give you a big boost. In my initial Volcano vid - czcams.com/video/kTHViTjZC-I/video.html I was using a Traxxas Velineon system I had lying around. I would suggest that if you can get the matching pair - ESC & motor, then it may be less work as hopefully the connections between the two - as well as the batteries you are using, are already made. Otherwise, your soldering skills may be needed.
Good luck and try not to tear too many parts all at once . . . ;-)
@@lesdmess845 Thanks
So as long as the esc and motor are compatible and of course the proper battery then this is half the battle and of course beating up the rc and learning along the way. I have a question because I am in search of a good combo to get going in upgrading my redcat volcano exp brush motor what do you think of this czcams.com/video/8xYddj9mTuY/video.html
@@AnotherLevel4You That seems made for scale crawlers as it can go real slow and maybe have a topspeed of 20mph? Of course you can't upgrade the motor or ESC separately if you wanted to. It's definitely on the expensive side and it is more compact but there's room on the Volcano. Search on ebay or amazon for a "540 brushless 60a esc and motor" will turn up a lot of options well under $100. If you want to be on the safe side you can look for Redcat volcano brushless esc and motor even.
@@lesdmess845 no safe here I want jump, bang and tear something up thanks a lot that did end up being for a crawler definitely not for ok
Where did you get your products if I can have a link if possible
Just google search those part numbers listed and you will find the best prices for each. I've never tried Aliexpress but they have the full kit for $160 at www.aliexpress.com/item/32744953860.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.44316deaSgRHIL&algo_pvid=86975744-d645-43d4-9551-44229e0b94f0&algo_expid=86975744-d645-43d4-9551-44229e0b94f0-16&btsid=0b0a555d16220887576642951e4a78&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
@@lesdmess845 omg thanks so much I was about to spend like 400 on Amazon 😳
Is that for display or rolling? It’s got lots of strength but no flex
Both of course czcams.com/video/WtWaybRwiqc/video.html
When you put enough power, the rigidity comes into play.
Waste of money on all of the aluminum parts. $50 for the plastic suspension from the Nitro version. Its very durable and much lighter. Aluminum shock towers and diff housings are the only aluminum parts to buy. The aluminum parts bend or break. They don't have any give to them. They are also almost always floppy and loose.
I can respect that we have differrent priorities on where we want to spend our money.
One thing about going all metal, you have to loctite everything or they will vibrate loose much sooner than later.
what dog bones are you using
lol never Mind i just seen them in the video.
How did you keep the hex hub and spindle from being wobbly I tighten it all and wheels still shake pretty heavy
Every RC I've had so far has some amount of wobble there. Once they start spinning, the inertia will try to keep them going in line usually. If there is too much wobble, you may have to insert some shims in there.
Only thing you didnt list is your motor and esc.... lol I saw "traxxas"..
It's a Traxxas Velineon VXL-3s 3600KV system I had lying around unused and listed it in my previous video -> czcams.com/video/nMDp4XIPiUM/video.html
I am not happy with the low speed cogging of that older system so I ordered a replacement that I just happen to receive today and installing now so watch out for the follow up maybe by this weekend.
What kind of battery is in that and motor because I upgrade mine and I can’t get it to pop wheelies
That is a Traxxas Velineon VXL-3s system with a 3S 5000mah lipo. In this video this setup does over +40mph and that gyro really is a must -> czcams.com/video/WtWaybRwiqc/video.html
So I did this to mine and my front dog bones keep coming out or almost falling out when I turn hard either direction. Any tips for that?
Even before I upgraded to all metal parts I never had dog bones come out and I was making violent uncontrolled turns. If you're now using all metal parts then you have to find out where there is movement allowing this.
You can get a pair of universal driveshafts.
Can you send me a link to those diff covers I can’t fine ones that fit the rear at all! Only the fronf
Just to be sure, are you looking for the part I listed in the description line "O" also shown in the video near the end at about 3:41?
If so you can use the part numbers I listed either as HSP or Redcat Racing in Amazon or ebay. Good luck!
What motor esc combo you running ? Have the same trucks and same upgrades
I updated the listing in the description as a Traxxas Velineon VXL3S brushless ESC & 3500kv motor.
Check out a newer vid of mine showing a new brushless esc and motor setup that can be found super cheap and great performer. Might be super tight -> czcams.com/video/OsOwFo30x9A/video.html
what wheelie bar are you using
See the note at the beginning of the description and listed at the bottom of it as well as shown two seconds before the end of the video. Hope that helps and good luck!
So the lightning gearbox just drops in? No modification needed?
The only item I listed that needed some rework to fit is the Redcat Dukono PRO Wheelie Bar. Everything else is a drop-in replacement.
@@lesdmess845 that's awesome! Thank you!
Did the aluminum steering parts tighten up any of the slop in the steering?
All the aluminum upgrades all helpd to tighten it all up. I ended up using longer screws on the pivot points of the servo saver with locking nylon nuts as they tended to work themselves loose over time.
BTW, later on I also changed the receiver with a gyro using the Flysky FS-GT5 transmitter and FS--BS6 receiver system. I figure it's such a short wheelbase that it gets too squirrelly especially when you over power it!
@@lesdmess845 I added a gyro to my redcat volcano after upgrading to a 4370KV motor, the gyro makes it drivable at speed
@@vincentfalcone2354 It really does help specially since I'm sure these weren't designed to be overpowered as much as we're doing! Which gyro system did you use?
@@lesdmess845 I got the RadioLink RC6GS w/R7FG receiver
It works really well for the money
What wheelie bars did you use??
In the description, I list it as the last item as well as my cost. In the video, it is the last item shown with the part and cost.
Wassup, I just subscribed. I have the same exact truck as you do but in Gold plated. I went through hell trying to find this part in gold. Your video shows the black plastic part by the gear box. That piece will be the 1st to break and will break again. I looked into my order history and should be this part # on ebay. 102040 122040 Ackerman Plate HSP RC On-Road Car/Buggy/Truck 02074 Upgrade 1:10
Or if not then this part # on ebay.com
122034 Rear Anti-Spuat Plate Upgrade Parts For RC 1/10 Car HSP Redcat Himoto
Or
RC 02017 Gold Suspension Arm Brace 2Pcs Fit HSP 1:10 On-Road Car Buggy Truck
Redcat never amitted their error for missing this part in their manual. I hope this helps. Please make another video after you replace that plastic part into purple aluminium. I have not installed the gold part myself yet because I don't have a comfortable place to take it apart. Look in 12mm to 17mm extender for bigger tires. I love the all metal noise when i was running mines. I love this truck so much I would build it in every color and put it in front of my imaginary Shop with neon lights. BTW, I also recommend this part # 2pcs 106015 Universal Shaft Drive Joint Silver Steel for HSP RC 1:10 Model Car
In my search, the 102040 122040 Ackerman Plate you list is part of the Hobbypark 102057 Aluminum Servo Saver Complete Set I list (L) and show at 3:37 so I am good there.
The only plastic under there now will be replaced by the part you list as 122034 Rear Anti-Spuat Plate and I will replace that because my wheelie bar is anchored to it through the chassis. It took me awhile to find that because as you say, it is not listed in Redcat's docs.
I will go with the 106015 Universal Shaft you listed if I break another of these.
I also recently added a Flysky FS-GT5 gyro transmitter/reciever to better control the steering due to the overpowered motor. The 20Kg steering servo and aluminum servo horn really takes advantage of this.
I agree with you that this is not only a very good driving car but it really is a great show car too. I want to paint a body in purple - Purpla Haze or Purple Rain, use magnetic body mounts and add those purple body glow lights. I can't get over the availability of quality parts for great prices!
You can find the whole gold set in aliexpress for about 150 bucks ,also the black ,blue and purple ...i buy the purple one
@@gayereveryday2295 Been awhile since I bought from that outfit that I don't recall why I haven't?
This continuous to be a very fun model to run and upgrade isn't it!
@@lesdmess845 indeed, i used mine with a crawler body and drive it in the fields , it can do wheelies at 2s for some reason
Yes I saw that on AliExpress about 2 weeks ago and was really shocked that I had to order all the parts not as a package over a year ago. This vehicle is amazing. I don't think I ever can go back to plastic. All of you should get the 12 millimeter hex adapter to 17 millimeter hex adapter and then put smaller wheels then it will drive like a buggy. I have also ordered this Universal drive shaft which is adjustable to 120 mm. Copy and paste into AliExpress. "HSP 94111 94108 94107 94106 94118 Universal joint steel shaft can be adjusted cvd 110MM - 120MM 106015 108015". AliExpress also have the all-aluminum buggy and they also have the carbon fiber drifting vehicles for good prices without electronics which makes me want to buy all of them in all different colors just for a collection. I was charging my LiPO batteries not using the balancing cable with the regular charge mode instead of balance charge and the battery exploded after several times and then it happened again five days later but without the explosion only fire gushing out from the battery and burnt my plastic Redcat terremoto 10 V2 so that is why I can never go back to plastic. Every RC lover should own this vehicle or at least test drive a all metal/aluminum vehicle.
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I did all of that and now it wont stop throwing front dog bones.
Check how much space is at the dogbone ends throughout the full range of the shock movement. As tight as this one was, I don't recall any room for the dogbones to get dislodged.
@@lesdmess845 I even shimmed them on the trans side. Pop. Castle 3800 may be the issue.... . ?
@@jeremygibson4575 That will have enough power to throw it out for sure but it still has to find space to squeeze out. In the full rotation and extension of the shocks up or down.
I wonder if using Redcat Racing 08046 universal driveshafts would work better then the dogbones?
These trucks are extremely cheap to upgrade.
With many sources online and many parts cross over support!
i got a motor and esc combo for 61 Canadian and the motor is a 3900kv pretty fast
something i want to do is style my tuck like a truggy
I've seen this basic layout used in a few different configs and really it's all about matching a body to it.
Don't like almost have the the same and very sloppy driving
I can understand that as it is a short wheelbase and can get sloppy when over powered. That's why I use the Flysky gyro system which helps.
@@lesdmess845 I'm just talking about you you do one run you got to tighten everything up again I mean it looks nice if we're going to keep it on a mantle that I like to ride I got a arrma Typhon 3s converting this epx Pro to all plastic it's just much more tight
@@1ish141 Yeah, I don't have to tighten everything up after every run. Clearly something is not right. In my first Volcano vid, I only upgraded the motor and ESC with all original plastic parts . . . that I started braking and replacing. To be expected given the massive upgrade in power. By this point in the upgrade, parts were no longer braking with each run and definitely everything is much more under control and tight.
BTW, I hadn't run it yet as I wanted to show it while it was still looking pristine . . . that didn't stay that way long . . .
I looked to see if you posted a vid of your Typhon as I don't have an Arrma . . . currently . . .
@@lesdmess845 you know what I just thought thought I was running 3s I didn't run 2 s