I mean its definitely a worth it investment and as soon as the monetization and later memberships open she will make it back quickly and later on with the merch aswell.
@@vyor8837 it can happen when ur current one just isnt good enough and cant handle the load and to prevent further dmg PC will just crash etc so getting a better PC now as a whole is good too to sorta have a fully clean one with nothin slowing it down. And she can still use the old one for her personal stuff without being afraid of anythin "leakin/showin" by accident.
@@Inuyashaya8 it means, while you are chill, there are certain schizos in the world who might think it would be a good idea to track a vtuber down irl via that method. So people say it for those weirdos. It's unfortunate it has to be said at all
Good thing that she wasn't getting scam. I'll be drooling if my customer only knows how to throw money, but not how to prove if it was worth the price tag.
It would be good if Cover had a tech guy who maintains a hardware recommendation list for all of their talents so they know what to expect at what price.
Considering they need pretty good machines to work, it would be really good. Building a PC can be hard if you know very little, you might spend money on unnecessary parts, or just overbuild for no good reason. Sometimes PCs can also just... not work, for reasons only clear to the priests of the Machine Spirit. So it's good to have one in your tech company. As an initiate Adeptus Mechanicus i know how hard it can be... @@T33K3SS3LCH3N
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N though prices can change quite a bit, depending on sales, and the location of the talent a better option is to have some IT staff or some contract with some system integrator with providing pcs with maybe even a discount for the talents
She rebuilt her entire streaming setup, and loaded all of her assets and programs, and practiced/tested her presentation within days of a hard deadline… without dying of anxiety. That’s wild.
She's a mama, she's had to deal with hard deadlines before, getting an illustration done, getting the rigger to finish the rigging, presenting the final product to a client before their debut or redebut. That's the norm for these very hard working Live2D artists
I remember watching the clips of Wtames Internet connection. Imagine having to move after debut cause your internet is garbage, that means packing everything up fast moving and then unpacking everything. I wonder how many of the JP girls helped probably quite a few.
I got a decent bonus this year at work and thought “heck yea time to update from my 1070ti, I’ll get a 4090”. Took one look at the price and said “ok 4070 it is” (they’re like $1700)
I was thinking of buying something along those lines as well at one point. That was before my sister's family dropped a gift card to my favorite IT store in my e-mail for my bday. Combined that with a bit more gift money and I ended up paying only 800 € (taxes included) for the cheapest 4080 Super.
@@vyor8837 Not entirely true. A lot of the performance advantages that Nvidia have are from the software side. Like DLSS, Ray tracing and so on. AMD certainly is doing well, and if they continue the same pace, no doubt they can surpass Nvidia
that "no." in the end tho. a sort of no you send into space with bunch of crucial info about humans in case some aliens will find the record. a kind of no to over-deny all the no-s. a no straight from a shakespeare's play, the way it sounded in his head.
I saw the title and had to watch this video. As someone who has built his first pc recently, I went with a 4090. I spent nearly a month researching and picking out parts, then like a week building it. Honestly, it was frustrating at times and a real pain, but I'm happy with the end results. It looks so nice, and there is just a special feeling you get knowing that you built yourself. The only thing that I'm not happy with is the pain my bank account is feeling. It's ain't cheap getting a beefy machine as I intend to use it for other than just gaming. It's also so much quieter than my last pc, which was from Dell.
Congrats on your new PC! I also built my first PC a year ago. I decided to go the midrange route and did a lot of research to make sure all the parts are compatible and I don't have any issues booting it up for the first time. I'm very proud of my build, there's some things that I would change, but honestly I learned a lot from my first time putting together a PC.
@@LadiesMan217.0 Thanks! Yeah, it is really important to check compatibility. I know when I had finished building mine, I was worried about it booting up to. The researching part was something as it felt like I was taking classes on computers, but it was classes that I enjoy unlike back in high school. I know what you mean about changes. I feel like a lot of PC builders feel that way that they could have done something different (me included), but as long as you're happy with the end result and it works, then it's definitely something to be happy about.
Both are the same the differents is you can pay less for the same and you can out in the things you need the most . I woud say for her a 4090 is the rar situation were it makes sens all the stuff running that need tones of Vram pluse playing a game on top
On the other hand, if you don't know what you're doing, you can easily break things. I've seen videos where a youtuber finds a viewer had connected a cable in the wrong connector which then fried one or more components. You really don't want to break anything expensive. Especially when you have a very short deadline.
I imagine her in that Daniel Radcliffe meme with handguns, except she's running up to the PC store with two Italian finger gestures up and just going "Gimme the best right now and fast!"
@@depressedTrent To be fair she can alleys upgrade if she needs it for the monitors really depends on budged and if its necessary. Especially with space while running 3 monitors + a big drawing tablet and stream OBS set up having 3 big monitors to use the graphics cart to the full isn't really the priority.
Could be a really nice color calibrated monitor for her art related work. She's not that much of a hardcore gamer from what I've seen to want high frame rate. Though I do agree on what not at least 1440p for higher resolution work.
ahh okay.. so i came in around this timing and i didn't have context on what she was talking about... this clip was in the 30 minute mark from her start stream time
It's good to have some sort of nest egg, or a real job, when not a big name yet. She should get that investment back decently soon now that she's in Hololive.
She was decently well known artist in the Vtuber community and Mama to some pretty famous talent. So she was doing pretty good money on her commisions already. But debuting in Holo as she said is the big moment of your career and pretty much guranteed return on investment.
She doesn’t necessarily need a 4090, but at the same time, I don’t understand how Vtubers as professionals who are constantly using computers, don’t all have beefy computers.
@@ericp631 I mean, Raora happened to have upgraded at the beginning, but IIRC Suba and Watame had been doing it for a while with potato PCs before they upgraded.
You don't need a 4090 for that you need a better cpu with more cores. all the overlays take up cpu resources not gpu. if your video encoding or gaming then yes a better graphics card will help.
believe me (a vtuber rigger) a vtuber model is quite heavy to the gpu im currently with a r5 5600 and a RTX 3060 12gb and 32gb ram and my pc still suffer to run: game, obs with tons of overlays and scenes, vtuber model at 60 fps stream at 1080p 60fps and with an iphone tracking it still has even more work due to itunes app in the background 💀 i actually recomend most people to use a streaming dedicated pc to run obs and the vtuber model and a powerful one to games, it works way better and you dont rlly need a 4090 in this case just a medium GTX for the stream pc and a 3060 or 4060 to the gaming one to have good gaming quality
@@Cynderfluff so why do vtubers use an iPhone for their models? But it's a case by case and in her case she needs a better CPU id recommend thredripper. But if her model was the lag then yes but she said it was her background apps.
@@doriansanchez1961 iPhone camera can face-track you with the SoC that has that process accelerated. You just send the coordinates to your PC, so that the rig knows where your face is. Then the rig has to be transformed based on the coordinates. Doing face tracking on PC would be even heavier.
@@kaminekoch.7465 so my point still stands that you can use an iPhone which is less powerful than a PC. It's a case by case scenario. She said after turning on the overlays it started to lag that's a CPU issue she said it was a couple years old I can quarantine she was running an Intel i7 quad core. I had a friend that played great games but couldn't stream using an and quad core upgraded him to a six core and streaming while gaming had no issues.
Most likely we are talking about a custom build, not just buying a ready-made one, no one will build you one of these in half a day and have it delivered to your home the next day. But in general I agree that 3 weeks is too much, a normal time would be about a week including receipt from the supplier, assembly, testing and delivery
meanwhile Polka debut with a potato PC but don't let all of this distract you from the fact that Pekora bought a f*cking monkey
Monkey as real monkey?
I'm always thankful for these reminders, I keep getting distracted.
Laplus using free wifi is wild
Korone and her frantic debut.
Calli's lagging debut
She can earn it back in less than a minute if she does a drawing request stream like Mumei did.
ummm, I think mumei can buy 10 with that money lol
How much did she earn again?
@@luiseatoll6368 27k USD. so lets just say she gets 50% of that, so 13.5K, means she can buy like 5 4090s, IN A DAY. damn
@luiseatoll6368 IIRC, she earned between the ball park of 20-30k USD if we deduct all the cuts CZcams and Cover takes.
I think it was 4m yen, or around 25k usd...
the story of the BEEF 4090 PC love it xD Raora is so adorable
Polka turned it to Beef.
Man i love Raora
MILR indeed
Indeed, I'm the MILR.
Saving Pvt. MILR
Man I love Felidae
Man I love Fanther
S tier story telling
I mean its definitely a worth it investment and as soon as the monetization and later memberships open she will make it back quickly and later on with the merch aswell.
Shame she got a GPU tgat spontaneously combusts at random
She already have merch
@@Kiriemy sorta but thats kinda as a whole gen rly not yet her own personalized one.
@@vyor8837 it can happen when ur current one just isnt good enough and cant handle the load and to prevent further dmg PC will just crash etc so getting a better PC now as a whole is good too to sorta have a fully clean one with nothin slowing it down. And she can still use the old one for her personal stuff without being afraid of anythin "leakin/showin" by accident.
@@vyor8837doesn’t this really only happen with bad power connectors or adapters?
Man, I love this big pink cat. The funniest part is that we found out about the BEEF PC because of MC LMAO
Imagine : Chattino that builded her PC is on the chat, OH right i remember a client like that, WAIT A MINUTE.....
No witch hunt allowed. Ok?
@@shinodamasaru7945 her PL is known... as a mama to some rather major talents
@@shinodamasaru7945 what that means? i was doing a joke
@@Inuyashaya8 it means, while you are chill, there are certain schizos in the world who might think it would be a good idea to track a vtuber down irl via that method. So people say it for those weirdos. It's unfortunate it has to be said at all
@@Inuyashaya8 unfortunately this is true. I wish I was joking.
Btw, welcome to Rabbit hole.
Good thing that she wasn't getting scam. I'll be drooling if my customer only knows how to throw money, but not how to prove if it was worth the price tag.
It would be good if Cover had a tech guy who maintains a hardware recommendation list for all of their talents so they know what to expect at what price.
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N They have the FPS Botan
with Bae as her translator
Considering they need pretty good machines to work, it would be really good. Building a PC can be hard if you know very little, you might spend money on unnecessary parts, or just overbuild for no good reason.
Sometimes PCs can also just... not work, for reasons only clear to the priests of the Machine Spirit. So it's good to have one in your tech company. As an initiate Adeptus Mechanicus i know how hard it can be... @@T33K3SS3LCH3N
@@T33K3SS3LCH3Nyes they do, in EN that staff is called AMELIA AND FAUNA
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N though prices can change quite a bit, depending on sales, and the location of the talent
a better option is to have some IT staff or some contract with some system integrator with providing pcs with maybe even a discount for the talents
*pats mamma raora* she is cute, I'm really really happy for her
She rebuilt her entire streaming setup, and loaded all of her assets and programs, and practiced/tested her presentation within days of a hard deadline… without dying of anxiety. That’s wild.
She's a mama, she's had to deal with hard deadlines before, getting an illustration done, getting the rigger to finish the rigging, presenting the final product to a client before their debut or redebut. That's the norm for these very hard working Live2D artists
When superchats open, that will be earned back 😅
such a based attitude for buying a pc
3 weeks to 3 days?. She's got great negotiation skills.
Just average Italian customer service you know
Raoras pc: *Starts to lag minimally*
Raora: "THIS ISNT GOOD, I NEED MORE BEEFY PC"
MOAR BEEF IN MY SPAGHETTI
with all the background vtuber software that needed to run,
It's a good call
Raora…
Are you waiting for the PC you just ordered?
Raora sitting in front of the door: "Maybe?"
Gonna send her some cucumber for doing a good job🤌
Raora has nothing to stress about, I still remember the awe I felt when Calli first debuted
Calli's computer takes me back
I remember watching the clips of Wtames Internet connection. Imagine having to move after debut cause your internet is garbage, that means packing everything up fast moving and then unpacking everything. I wonder how many of the JP girls helped probably quite a few.
I love how most Raora clips start with her giggles
😺: I have money, beef pc gib me !!
I'd probably do the same if I was gonna debut in Hololive too.
I got a decent bonus this year at work and thought “heck yea time to update from my 1070ti, I’ll get a 4090”.
Took one look at the price and said “ok 4070 it is” (they’re like $1700)
I was thinking of buying something along those lines as well at one point. That was before my sister's family dropped a gift card to my favorite IT store in my e-mail for my bday. Combined that with a bit more gift money and I ended up paying only 800 € (taxes included) for the cheapest 4080 Super.
Or you could have gotten AMD for the same perf for less money...
@@vyor8837Same performance except for RT, VR and streaming. Higher power draw and bigger physical size.
@@vyor8837 Not entirely true. A lot of the performance advantages that Nvidia have are from the software side. Like DLSS, Ray tracing and so on. AMD certainly is doing well, and if they continue the same pace, no doubt they can surpass Nvidia
@@shikyokira3065 AMD has an equivalent to DLSS: FSR. FSR3 is even better than DLSS frame gen.
Oh yeah the easy solution, just plug a 4090 in your pc and things stop lagging.
And i7-14700 😂
that "no." in the end tho. a sort of no you send into space with bunch of crucial info about humans in case some aliens will find the record. a kind of no to over-deny all the no-s. a no straight from a shakespeare's play, the way it sounded in his head.
Welp I guess we gonna have to reimburse her probably next week.
GIVE THE SPECS
"no"
Her Minecraft stream "leaked" an i7 (seems 14th gen) and 4090, at least Minecraft was in full hd
28x Intel i7-14 is a 14700 variant (but not the 14790f, which is only 8E cores). Both the K and non-K get great performance numbers.
PCMasterRace guys: ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US
Im talking about having everything neat, which means she does cable management. BASED
nice investment
sasuga yagoo and raora.. trying to distract us from the fact pekora bought a MONKEY.
I feel like most holomems would need at least a 3080 at this point. But a 4090 now would keep anyone comfy for the years to come.
take money, give PC
3:02
excited panther noise
she's so cute
You know it's a whole lot of cables when she mentions them twice 😄
the laugh at the start of the video melted my heart
I saw the title and had to watch this video. As someone who has built his first pc recently, I went with a 4090. I spent nearly a month researching and picking out parts, then like a week building it. Honestly, it was frustrating at times and a real pain, but I'm happy with the end results. It looks so nice, and there is just a special feeling you get knowing that you built yourself. The only thing that I'm not happy with is the pain my bank account is feeling. It's ain't cheap getting a beefy machine as I intend to use it for other than just gaming. It's also so much quieter than my last pc, which was from Dell.
Congrats on your new PC! I also built my first PC a year ago. I decided to go the midrange route and did a lot of research to make sure all the parts are compatible and I don't have any issues booting it up for the first time. I'm very proud of my build, there's some things that I would change, but honestly I learned a lot from my first time putting together a PC.
@@LadiesMan217.0 Thanks! Yeah, it is really important to check compatibility. I know when I had finished building mine, I was worried about it booting up to. The researching part was something as it felt like I was taking classes on computers, but it was classes that I enjoy unlike back in high school. I know what you mean about changes. I feel like a lot of PC builders feel that way that they could have done something different (me included), but as long as you're happy with the end result and it works, then it's definitely something to be happy about.
She managed to get it all so rapidly so I'm really happy for her being able to get it done.
Nice!
Well, once that monetization hits, it will be worth it.
Te quiero mucho Raora! Ella es muy linda.
sheesh, all her savings, living dangerously
As a PC builder, I genuinely hope she got a good pre-build. Pretty hard to find good pre-builds that don't have massive drawbacks.
Raora: The postman said "I have a package for you." He had a big, super giant package!
Me: PHRASING!
She already bought the PC.
What a clumsy cat. Everyone knows a self built PC outperforms prebought because it loves you. And it was built with love
Both are the same the differents is you can pay less for the same and you can out in the things you need the most . I woud say for her a 4090 is the rar situation were it makes sens all the stuff running that need tones of Vram pluse playing a game on top
On the other hand, if you don't know what you're doing, you can easily break things. I've seen videos where a youtuber finds a viewer had connected a cable in the wrong connector which then fried one or more components. You really don't want to break anything expensive. Especially when you have a very short deadline.
I love her reasoning for getting the new PC, it’s so relatable wwww
Gosh I love her accent so much ❤
I for real do the same, a week is too short of a preparation.
I imagine her in that Daniel Radcliffe meme with handguns, except she's running up to the PC store with two Italian finger gestures up and just going "Gimme the best right now and fast!"
I think I'm in love with her accent
I need her in my life. (I'm so down bad)
That is the true PC Master Race mindset! Great respect! Still, she could built it herself...
Most likely when monetization happens she''ll make that money back tenfold.
i7-14700 + Nvidia 4900 but gaming monitor just 1080p 🤔
I'd think the displays are of low priority over crashing OBS and lagging in the middle of her debut
@@StkyDkNMeBlztrue, but it's still kinda like plugging Blu-ray player to black and white TV... She has plenty of power but no way to actually use it.
@@depressedTrent To be fair she can alleys upgrade if she needs it for the monitors really depends on budged and if its necessary. Especially with space while running 3 monitors + a big drawing tablet and stream OBS set up having 3 big monitors to use the graphics cart to the full isn't really the priority.
Could be a really nice color calibrated monitor for her art related work. She's not that much of a hardcore gamer from what I've seen to want high frame rate. Though I do agree on what not at least 1440p for higher resolution work.
time to invest into that juicy 27" 1440p OLED
nice. cute.
I fucking love Raora’s accent!!!!
Forget the 4090, she probably needs a KU-100 soon at this rate.
ahh okay.. so i came in around this timing and i didn't have context on what she was talking about... this clip was in the 30 minute mark from her start stream time
"Besto PC give mee , give me" .. I didnt know Moona sold PCs
Cute cat
I just hope she got it the right price and not scammed with overused 2nd-hand parts. Other than that, its good PC. Beef PC!
This makes sense she did not want to show coordinates on minecraft 🤫
Adorable panic buying. Respect for trying to be prepared.
But the fact that she doesn't know the specs is hilarious!
Fauna 🤝 Raora
It's the EN curse
"Give us the specs." ... "No!" 😀
Wonder what the terms on TMI are?
Okay gotta ask you think she jumped in the box once she was done setting it up?
Meanwhile polka use gtx 980
I think the best should have been buying a 4060 with 12 VRAM and waiting for the rtx 5090 this year.
Hololive Vtubers are profesionals and these are their tools of work. They can pretty much justify purchasing the best there is every year or two.
Raora Mamma is rich 😳
It's good to have some sort of nest egg, or a real job, when not a big name yet. She should get that investment back decently soon now that she's in Hololive.
She was decently well known artist in the Vtuber community and Mama to some pretty famous talent. So she was doing pretty good money on her commisions already. But debuting in Holo as she said is the big moment of your career and pretty much guranteed return on investment.
Her work wasn't cheap
She doesn’t necessarily need a 4090, but at the same time, I don’t understand how Vtubers as professionals who are constantly using computers, don’t all have beefy computers.
Cost. Not everyone can afford it and some come from backgrounds where they didn't need it
@@ericp631 I mean, Raora happened to have upgraded at the beginning, but IIRC Suba and Watame had been doing it for a while with potato PCs before they upgraded.
You don't need a 4090 for that you need a better cpu with more cores. all the overlays take up cpu resources not gpu. if your video encoding or gaming then yes a better graphics card will help.
believe me (a vtuber rigger) a vtuber model is quite heavy to the gpu
im currently with a r5 5600 and a RTX 3060 12gb and 32gb ram and my pc still suffer to run:
game, obs with tons of overlays and scenes, vtuber model at 60 fps stream at 1080p 60fps and with an iphone tracking it still has even more work due to itunes app in the background 💀
i actually recomend most people to use a streaming dedicated pc to run obs and the vtuber model
and a powerful one to games, it works way better and you dont rlly need a 4090 in this case
just a medium GTX for the stream pc and a 3060 or 4060 to the gaming one to have good gaming quality
@@Cynderfluff so why do vtubers use an iPhone for their models? But it's a case by case and in her case she needs a better CPU id recommend thredripper. But if her model was the lag then yes but she said it was her background apps.
@@doriansanchez1961 iPhone camera can face-track you with the SoC that has that process accelerated. You just send the coordinates to your PC, so that the rig knows where your face is. Then the rig has to be transformed based on the coordinates. Doing face tracking on PC would be even heavier.
@@kaminekoch.7465 so my point still stands that you can use an iPhone which is less powerful than a PC. It's a case by case scenario. She said after turning on the overlays it started to lag that's a CPU issue she said it was a couple years old I can quarantine she was running an Intel i7 quad core. I had a friend that played great games but couldn't stream using an and quad core upgraded him to a six core and streaming while gaming had no issues.
oh no Blue screen....maybe her PC quite old one for a few year than 3 years, I think
Postman: "I have a package for you."
Raora: "Oh it's my PC right?"
Postman: *Does Anakin Skywalker meme face*
Raora: *Panic* "It's my PC right?!"
3 weeks for pc in Japan? Bruh, i in 3rd world country can receive it tomorrow
Most likely we are talking about a custom build, not just buying a ready-made one, no one will build you one of these in half a day and have it delivered to your home the next day. But in general I agree that 3 weeks is too much, a normal time would be about a week including receipt from the supplier, assembly, testing and delivery