Jim Cornette on Booking Jobbers For TV Tapings
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When I was a kid I always thought the “jobbers” were a bunch of random guys that they grabbed out of the audience. Lol
As did I! Lol just thought they were some jackasses they found sitting on a bar stool somewhere..and said..hey 50 bucks! Wanna wrestle?? Lol
Never forget that is how Bobby Lashley first appeared in WWE.☺B.W.
Same here I always thought it was a wannabe tough guy in the crowd who always got destroyed lmao
That’s in a nutshell how Santino debut lol😂
When i was a kid i thought it worked like the first Spider-Man movie, anyone could sign up to wrestle a pro.
My grandmother called them ham and eggers. ☺
That's funny. Mine used the same term lol
My grandma called them wet noodles lol
She stole that from Heenan
Thousands call them "ham and eggers." It's a very well known euphemism...
Winston Cannady Heenan stole it from grandmas.
If you're already standing in the ring when the announcer starts introducing you.....
Lol
Jobbers or as my dad used to call them “No Name Dudes”.
Ha. My dad called them "whippin' boys" because they also got whipped.
My brother always would call them “some greasy haired guy with a tattoo”. Of course this was the late 80s, before every white guy had tats on half his body
My brother and I called them "the cheap guys"
my late brother called them Matt Fodder.
My pawpaw called them "Canvasbacks."
We had a local guy Manuel Villalobos..who lost like every match and was busted up and bleeding everytime Abdullah or Bruiser would come into the territory. Nicknamed "Hardluck" when he passed away recently there was a tremendous appearance at the funeral and outpour of grief from the community. We all have a soft spot for those poor jobbers.
I seem to remember the name. Likely from watching AWA, World Class, or Global in ESPN every day after school. Did you live in one of those territories?
@@scottrasso410 probably talking about Puerto Rico
Iron Mike sharpe was a decent jobber for the time especially with that loaded sleeve on his forearm. So one needs to bring the loaded forearm sleeve back or the loaded boot.
I remember a friend of mine and I wanted to start a "Silent" Brian Mackney fan club. He was the ultimate jobber, but somehow got given the "Silent" moniker.
Pat Rose and Barry Horowitz
When I was a little kid, my favorite wrestler was Johnny Rodz. I used to cheer him on through the TV and be sad when he lost. My older brother would smile and say, "Maybe next week." I think he knew.
One of the funniest, yet scariest, wrestling moments I ever saw was when the Road Warriors legit knocked out some poor jobber.
When we were kids we called them "the amateurs"
There was no knowledge of the concept of jobbers or anything when you started watching wrestling, you just instinctively knew they were people there to lose, even before you knew it was fake
Bobby Heenan called them Ham 'n' eggers
It's an expression that is at least 100 years old
Growing up watchin em on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge I called em “Duds”...like a firecracker that didn’t go off
“Iron” Mike Sharpe & George South come to mind.
Barry Horowitz is the best jobber ever IMO. He was a great technical wrestler, always looked competent so you could tell the guy he was putting over was beating someone with actual noticeable skill and he knew how to make the opponent look like a million bucks with his selling.
Jim always reacts the same to every question put forth. Lol. It’s like he’s asked to name every state in the USA.
Big sigh... Then "Oh for fuck sakes .."
Tomato Cans
I called them "sling arounds"
The Mulkeys are the only jobbers I can think of to become legendary. For humor, no one could beat Snake Brown and Oki Shikina.
Brooklyn Brawler ring a bell
Mulkey Mania!!!!
S.D Jones for a certain portion of the WWF was pretty infamous. Poor guy just could never get that win!
Hugh Mahn Barry O, (Bob Orton’s Brother and Randy Orton’s Uncle) was a Jobber in the WWF for a long time.
@@hughmahn484 At least S.D. Jones got TWO Matel figurines...
Love these stories!! Wrestling is still a great sport. Corny is great too!!
Nice. And I Watched the whole two minute ad for Murphy ladders because presenter was a masked wrestler that was on before this five minute clip.
The best jobber I've ever seen was Joe Cruz, there's a match on here with Brian Pillman where he matches and reverses Pillman hold for hold, he definitely knew his basic wrestling skills
where would wrestling be today if it's not for the jobbers? They are what stuntman and villains are to the movie actors. So under-appreciated.
Brian and Jim are right. Think of all the guys that came out of OVW between 2002 and 2005 that literally were out of the business by 2009. The Bashams, Johnny and Mitch, countless "divas", Hassan...just off the top of my head
But look at the people who toughed it out: Cena, Orton, Batista, Benjamin, Lesnar, Mickie, Beth Phoenix, Dolph Ziggler, Zach Ryder, Miz, Maryse, Lashley, Cody Rhodes, Kofi Kingston, Alicia Fox. They came from OVW and they've done pretty well.
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He was in ovw fool!!
Savage Cabbage Cena was the prototype in OVW bruh lol, Miz didn’t come from ovw he came from tough enough first
@Savage Cabbage but Cena did start at the power plant in wcw though so I don't consider him an ovw original
I dont like the six sided ring but maybe they can bring it back once a year for an all x division pay per view..
George South, Rocky King were memorable
I'll say one thing for the Attitude Era - there were far fewer jobbers in wrestling at that time than any other time in wrestling history. If you saw a guy who used his own name (or a semi-realistic one) and it was announced while the guy was in the ring, you knew what the outcome was going to be. There was no suspense. I didn't watch wrestling in the 80s and before because I was too young, but if that's what it was like in terms of televised matches, I'll take the Attitude Era over that nonsense. Seeing that on TV isn't going to make me buy PPVs or tickets to a live event. That's going to make me turn the channel. I knew how wrestling worked when I was a kid, so if I'm not watching 2 guys who I can believe are competitive with each other in some way, I'm done.
You try to sound smart, but reality was it was great story telling when a Monster destroyed a few Jobber before the big fight. You serm to be so woke, but missed the basics.
On Championship Wrestling from Florida in the eighties, it seemed like every week started with Raul Matta in the opening match. Poor guy never won.
We had a local guy Manuel Villalobos..who lost like every match and was busted up and bleeding everytime Abdullah or Bruiser would come into the territory. Nicknamed "Hardluck" when he passed away recently there was a tremendous appearance at the funeral and outpour of grief from the community. We all have a soft spot for those poor jobbers.
I want to hear about the Wolf Man
I think the reason so many from OVW left the business is Cornette trained them for wrestling, and they got to the WWE and it was sports entertainment. They were disillusioned by the lack of substance at the top of the business. It's like climbing Mt. Everest, getting to the top and it's where all the birds of the world go to shit.
Cornette said that about them. When he talked about The Bashems.
Funny thing is, a lot of these jobbers became decent stars on the Indy circuit. Scott Casey, Reno Riggins, George South, and Chris Hamrick to name a few.
Scott Casey was no jobber in Texas before the WWF. He was the Tommy Rich of South Texas in the early 80s.
@@ubangistomped I agree Scott Casey had talent. He was put together well and a good a technician. However, as far as the WWF was concerned he was jobber, maybe and very low level mid-carder at best. Which is pretty pathetic.
Chick Donovan is another of the many talents in the 80s in Georgia.
Christopher Benedict in Dallas he was at best midcard but is southwest territory ( San Antonio) he was one of the top guys I think he even held their belt. Ok
@@Grogie4dagurlz when you say "Dallas" I presume you mean World Class Championship Wrestling?
I hate job matches. You know the guy's gonna lose, so why am I even watching?
I seen the six sided ring then quickly changed the channel. I didn't care who was wrestling, I was hoping see some good competition against WWE. ("Competition is a good thing") But honestly that ring killed it for me, just by looking at it for 6 seconds.
But I suspect the designers of the ring knew when to use the word saw rather than seen.
@@infidel6728 maybe I was thinking of changed as a past participle.
That just makes you seem like a major bitch to me
Stugotz Moment..my bad
I liked the six-sides ring...
It was different. For a while it worked
Mass Transit did a job alright
Triple H is also guilty of hurting jobbers, I cant think of the guys name who took his pedigree wrong and fucked up his neck but thats a perfect example
Marty garner lol I was thinking about that when I saw your comment
The Mulkey Brothers, the greatest Jobbers of all time, number 16 seed for the NWA US Tag Team Belts. Also Arn Anderson started out as a Jobber under his real name back in the early 80's
It may be that OVW was run like a southern territory where credibility and naturalness mattered, once you get to the WWE all that gets thrown out the window and replaced by whatever goofy ideas Vince got in his head. Anyone sane WOULD quit.
Michael Modest is a GEEAT wrestler and trainer. Love that man.
I think my favorite jobber was The Cuban Assassin.
Kendall Windham looked like a jobber. Loved Florida wrestling. Gordon Solie, Purple Haze, Mulligan, Sullivan, Roop, Dusty, Luger...
In the meantime and in between time, that's it, another edition of stampede wrestling.
Fun Fact* Doug Basham was the "creature of the night" who got his ass handed to him by Kama aka the Godfather (after throwing a wreath at Kama) back in 1995.
Brooklyn Brawler!
TL Hopper would have never happened, if it wasn’t for Jim Cornette
Barry "fucking" Horowitz!!
We used to call them wimpy guys
Watch the 1st season of Raw. Yokozuna was brutal to jobbers.
Whatever happened to Jeff Harvey?
I'm gonna go on record and say I DESPISED TNA's six-sided ring. Not only did it look tiny, and seemed to be a desperate attempt to follow in MMA's footsteps instead of sticking with wrestling, but you could actually see newcomers to TNA were disoriented by it. Hiroshi Tanahashi and AJ Styles had a great match in one, but Tanhashi was off by about half a step at all times because he'd never worked in a hexagon before.
Jackalblade9 so is four sides wrestling trying to be like boxing? Why can't wrestlers wrestle on a ropeless circular mat then....?
sadetwizelve Based on a little research, boxing is where the original wrestling ring was derived from, in fact. And I see no need to change it. But to answer your question, there's a lot that pro-wrestlers can't do without ropes and posts.
Far as I know, amateur bouts still take place on mats without ropes.
Sonic Says: If your profile picture is from an anime, your opinion doesn't count.
heretic600 It's not from an anime, so I suppose that's fortunate.
What about Lucha Libre promotions?
Ham and Eggers
I actually forgot the Hardy's were jobbers
Matt Hardy was Austin's very first match in wwe
Now that is an awesome factoid 🙂
Pez Whately. Best jobber ever.
Imagine Cornette getting YOUR tryout tape, lol. "Goddamn, fucking VCR bullSHIT!"
First fucking doug basham match i seen live
There's jobbers that become part of the show like Brooklyn Brawler, James elseworth and Colin delany (remember that guy), and don't they have a new guy that teamed with Roman reigns a little bit ago?
Barry Horowitz, Mike Sharpe.
I like the six sided ring JUST for the different look. But it's so fucking indie.
I'd like to see jobber matches come back personally But make them more believable then . Just a beat down for the stars of the program Like WWF did in the 80s
He dont have a story cause jim probably embarrassed lots of bookers
Bart Starr wcw Saturday mornings
They're called enhancement talent
When me and my brothers were little we’d call them wimp wrestlers.
The majors & the minors are basically the same. Going from having Corny as your boss to having Vince as your boss is quite a drastic change.
I'd rather have worked for Corny that Vince.
I used to give these guys the generic name of Joe F*ckaround.
i always wanted to be a jobber.
A jobber in real life. Lol
@@jamesfaragoza5782 that i already am.
What happens when a wrestler dies?
Vince Mcmahon goes KA-CHING, tribute DVD
He does the job for God
Who is the co-host. Brian something?
Brian Last
🤓🎾
I always liked how Mike Jackson worked in the 80s Crockett WCW. Solid guy, good and safe worker, all the top guys liked working with him on TV, knew how to make his opponent look good. Still occasionally gets in the ring and is over 70 now.
Sho Funaki?
Was tito santana a jobber when he became the matador?
The El Matador gimmick I believe was a last ditch effort to revive Tito's career. Truthfully Tito hae been working as enhancement talent for several years prior to that. His last big run was tag teaming with Rick Martel when they were Strike Force. Aftwards, it appeared Vince really just used him to get other guys over.
That’s Chico Santana
@@Beer_Baron_ I believe that's Frito Santana.
He used to do the flying jalapeno as a finisher.
I see no use for jobbers on main shows. How are they going to put over a top prospect. I don't get it. U put over new talent with a killer promo have them go up against mid card with credibility for casual viewers I think so
you get people over by showing them dominate, not by 50 50 booking in close matches where they barely win one and then barley lose the next one.
Goldberg had two moves a spear and a jackhammer good athletism but stamina wasn't great they got him over by beating game competition until regal exposed him in WCW. He won over a 100 matches I can't remember him beating really good guys giant, sting and Hogan to name a few. But yeah jobbers need jobs too I just don't get why so much talent on wwe raw and SmackDown roster being wasted like that. I don't understand it.
Goldberg should have been a jobber for life after Regal exposed him as a fraud of a worker
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Porkchop Price was a champion outside the WWF, but wasn't even a competitive jobber in WWF. Tommy Angel was a jobber that I remember seeing the most, both in the WWF and WCW.