Ep.5 of Interview with the Vampire punched me in the face-repeatedly!
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Tensions have been high in the fandom and rumors abounded surrounding this episode. Now we know why!! A Vampire Chronicles expert’s breakdown of episode 5 of AMC’s Anne Rice’s Interview with the Vampire TV series.
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The Vampire Lestat: "As for the lies he told, the mistakes he made, well, I forgive him his excess of imagination, his bitterness, and his vanity, which was, after all, never very great."
Sam Reid said he hopes AMC puts a trigger warning in some episodes and I really wished they listened to him cause boy was this episode BRUTAL. It legit had me sobbing cause it just brought back terrible memories of seeing someone you love be hurt in such a way. When Louie is telling Claudia that it’s okay and that their done fighting that sense of calm you feel at the second only for the abuse to happen again broke me.
Television wise this was such a well directed and acted episode, everyone brought their A-game but story wise I don’t see how Louie and Lestat are endgame after this, unless Claudia was exaggerating the events which some feel like that may be the case. Still, it doesn’t make the situation okay and Louie who spent days trying to tell Daniel that he was not a victim or abused now sounds like he’s trying to make excuses for Lestat’s behavior which is yikes to say the least. Next episode, Lestat is out the house and tries love-bombing Louie and Claudia to forgive him, Claudia won’t fall for it but I believe Louie will.
Think Rollins will make it an even greater heartbreak and Louie will tell Lestat he loves him, only for Claudia to come around with the knife?
@@paradoxchild01I can most definitely see that happening but I have a feeling that dance scene we see between Louie and Lestat is either a dream or a set up to kill Lestat by both Claudia and Louie.
@@andreastory800 yes cause in the book Claudia is trying to reunite with Lestat and killing together would make him believe that request.
These people kill innocent people and animals, so I doubt their morals would as same as ours. And they live for many years I totally see them making up and be end game.
Sam is Lestat in my book
This episode was so raw and brutal. It took me about an hour to process and formulate my thoughts. So many heavy moments in this one episode alone. I knew the adorable family bliss moments from episode 4 wasn't going to last, but damn... It was a great episode. Gut-wrenching, very difficult at times to watch, but very good. I think this is my favorite episode right along with the pilot episode.
Side note, the scene where Louis is messing with Daniel's arm and the slap was so well done. Louis' good bye to Grace was also a very tender moment where I shed my first tear. You just feel so sad for Louis.
Edit- Episode 6 is now also one of my favs. This show just keeps getting better. Can't believe it's only one episode left.
+N P PRECISELY. This episode BROKE ME. I’m still trying to recover and process what happened because it felt like a nightmare. I literally felt sick to my stomach and my anxiety was building up.
@@Gabreya Have you seen 6 yet? These last couple of episodes are emotionally draining 😩
@@_notmyproblem_ No. I haven’t seen episode six, yet. Don’t spoil anything. Even though I recently paid a subscription for AMC+, I’m watching this show on AMC, and I’m kind of nervous of what will happen next. This episode came out of nowhere with how extremely dark it had gotten. Yes, the show was already dark. But, it really upped the ante with how dark it can get with this episode. What’s messed up is that it started out kind of goofy and kind of gave me a false sense of ease. Then, by the middle of the episode, things really took an extremely dark turn and stayed like that. I went from being amused to uncomfortable to sad to terrified to shocked. It went from, “Well, that escalated quickly,” to “MY GOD!!!” I never expected to be terrified and in tears at the same time watching this episode. It left me reeling and I’m still trying to recover. 😭
Only one episode left ! There can not be only 7 episodes noooo 😨😭
@@NotReallyAya. Yeah, I feel you. The season is very short.
This episode literally had me sobbing. Like loud ugly sobs my neighbors probably heard through the thin ass apartment walls. At the end I really could not hold it together, I've never reacted to a show like this before. Domestic abuse when portrayed as well as it is here is a really effective way of tugging on viewers heart strings.
Someone said that Louis turning in the church was their wedding. And now at the end Lestat is essentially raping Louis, taking back what he gave him.
I cried twice during the episode, especially when Louis and his sister parted for good. Essentially he's dead to her and has no family anymore. His relationship with his sister was one of my favorite parts of the first episode and I knew it was gonna break me when she finally breaks off ties. Needless to say, I have abdandonment issues so this hit me a lot more than the domestic violence scene at the end. I was just in shock at that point.
@@alexrose20 Same here. This episode was DIFFICULT TO WATCH. I’m still disturbed by whatever happened to Claudia by that vampire. I was extremely devastated when Louis and his sister parted ways for good while Claudia was watching from afar with sympathy and regret. Then, the end sequence left me terrified and in tears. Lestat brutalizing Louis and Claudia trying to stop Lestat got me. The end shot was amazing with Claudia. I felt exactly like her in that moment: FRIGHTENED and IN SHOCK. 😭
I’m going to be a little controversial here and say I didn’t mind Lestat being violent in the episode. Now I know In all future books Lestat has been sort of soften up into a better person because “Louis POV”, but in the first book he was absolutely abusive (perhaps not physically but emotionally certainly) and I don’t think that’s an incorrect interpretation of his character.
It’s different and I wonder how this will change future seasons if they adapt anything in future books, but I don’t think it’s incorrect.
This show has been funny and romantic at times but it was never meant to be a romcom, it’s a story about two monsters that love each other in spite of themselves. It’s dark and deeply messed up but so is murdering hundreds of innocent people in throw away jokes.
Personally I feel like a lot of modern gay representation is so toothless and cutesy. I’m glad for the more messy, complicated dark romance that straight people have always had.
My only complaint is that I would have like more intimate and affectionate moments between Louis and Lestat before this point to really sell why they have stayed together despite everything and to harshly contrast the current reality.
Yess, exactly
Same! I was shook and was completely against it at first but then thinking about Lestat’s personality and everything that he says and does both in the books and show, it seems logical he would take one more step to being physically abusive. He did say he would never harm Louis or Claudia in TVL but irl abusers deny they hit their spouses all the time. I hate this change because it’s so realistic and deep down I know this is not exactly uncharacteristic for Lestat and it hurts to think about it.
@@klowwwww I think in the first book he was clearly set up as an abusive monster and then in the next book Lestat told his point of view in which he came off way better, and I believe the intend behind that was to establish that they were both unreliable narrators and the truth was somewhere in the middle.
However Anne Rice clearly loved Lestat so she spent the following books reinforcing his version of events and making Louis into a straight up liar or delusional (unintentionally or not).
The show seems to be leaning more into the interpretation that the truth is somewhere in the middle and I actually like that.
Lestat from TVL would never, but IWTV Lestat could have conceivably gotten near that point.
I am sure they will come back with the"oddisy of recolkection" thing and let Lestat explain things out
He did warn everyone that he has his fathers temper.
This episode was heartbreaking, intense, brutal & triggering at the same time, can see why many critics & vampire fans (including you) said this would be mixed bag, Louie & Claudia needs to run far AWAY, awful..but very captivating, my favorite episode so far
The book had no physical violence. In fact it was Louis who drained Claudia near death and lestat changed her to save her
@@Wattsupwithhybristophilia I think the change they made in the show still situates Louis as the cause of her lost mortal life (the violent murder he committed was the inciting incident that led to the fires and ransacking) and Lestat as the one who is forced to save her (by turning her into a vampire). The big difference is that although Louis does admit selfish action lead him to rescue Claudia he unfairly blames Lestat for saving her after he begged him to. I think this is largely because Louis has trouble accepting the guilt he felt for condemning her to a life that he had been bemoaning.
@@lilang9270 true but they what didn’t need to happen was the white devil DV scene. Lestat was always wanting his humanity back. He was red to do good things. He wasn’t 💯 asshole that needed to be taken out. But the millennials need their white devil.
If a TV show could get an Oscar, this has damn sure earned one. The Acting is magnificent. AMC has done an amazing job with this show.
Isn't that the emmys?
The implication of Killer raping Claudia kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Apart from it being very out of character for Killer (from the books, anyway), it just came across as gratuitous. Hopefully, they’ll handle her trauma properly enough to prove me wrong, but I’m still uncomfortable with it, especially since Claudia is based on a real person, that person being Anne Rice’s deceased daughter.
Not gonna lie, I cried in this episode. It works for me for now and let me tell you why. Let's see what's in the show. Lestat made Luis for his own (selfish) reasons but he did that with consent (something he didn't experience if they'll keep that fact from the book and I think they will because of all the hints). In the show he showed all the bad sides of being a vampire before he made an offer, so Luis knew very well what he was getting into and was giving vibes that he's in love with Lestat or at least infatuated just as Lestat is. Lestat is not perfect and he might not react appropriately all the time but it is clear in the show that he was trying to make Luis feel good and happy as a vampire, he wanted to set him free (he even did things he didn't want to or care about for Luis). The most notible of all - in the show he made Claudia because Luis asked. Even though he knew it was not a good idea, he did it for him so that Luis would have his redemption and be finally happy. Did he hope it will fix things between them? Probably. It is clear he is doubting Luis ever loved him because Luis never actually said it or showed it really. So Lestat is clinging to hope that one day Luis will love him back in equal measure. Is it a healthy approach to a relationship? No. But he's thinking of off fear, his greatest fear of loneliness. He is also a very emotional creature which I think is why he needs Antoanette. Not because he really wants her but because its a defence mechanism - living in this illusion that there is a person who loves him even if it's not the one he chose.
The same thing happens with Claudia. The show clearly shows that in the beginning he was a good dad, in his way he tried to educate her and help (yes, burning Charlie was a way of his to get through to her and make her realise things). So in his mind he is giving his all to these two who in the end hate him for "making" them into what they are. And I'm like, you asked for it! And, Claudia, dear, it's on Luis you're a vampire (and she knows it, says it herself). And yet, all the negative feelings are thrown to Lestat who just takes it, like he takes the years long sulking and ignoring.
One of the best moments in this episode was when Claudia called Lestat out on his weakness - he gets rude and confrontational when he's scared. It is another defense mechanism because of all the trauma he experienced in Europe - the place he ran away from and is trying (in his wrong way) to stop his two beloved people from going to. He is being truthful about how cruel the European vampires are and this episode showed us that in Killer and in Lestat. I actually love the fight scene because:
1. Lestat reached his limit with what he can take (he calls it a betrayal and it really is, in his eyes he did everything for them and they are going to leave him alone - hurt him in the worst way)
2. By fighting Luis he demonstrated just how violent the European vampires are, he is one after all. He said it himself that he tried desperately not be that way (is that why he ran from Paris?) And now he lost control which is definitely going to be traumatic because I am sure he knows he is not supposed to hurt someone he loves. And he does love Luis, he still does.
3. He asks Luis to be honest about his feelings, to stop "leading him on" because he thinks that's happening. And Luis doesn't give him a straight answer which I'm sure hurts Lestat.
So in the end, from Luis's and Claudia's pov Lestat is keeping them locked up and doesn't really care about them. From Lestat's pov they are using his love to take his freedom away (which he charishes) and are hating him for things he is not guilty of.
It is very unhealthy but also very realistic and the escalation is in my opinion done well.
So, yes, it is different form the books but I personally like it so far. I want to see where it will go. I find all of the characters intriguing and would love to have Lestat centre stage in Se2 because I think the guy is harboring some serious trauma and I think the show will not shy away from it.
I think the problem with it is partially the race swap. They've done a very poor job of making me feel like Louis has much of a reason to love or even like Lestat up until this point. They have a few moments, but that's it. I've mostly been fine with the race changes here, because the writers have actually made these changes relevant to the story. All the white people being villainous makes sense for the time period, and even in the book version, Lestat was portrayed as something of a villain. Then this episode has Claudia being randomly assaulted by a white vampire, Lestat beating the living daylights out of Louis, and a preview for the next episode showing Claudia claiming they are Lestat's "slaves" and she's going to free them. This makes me fear that the show is trying to force some race message after all, and that's not a good thing.
@@StrawberryShorty Yeah, maybe. I honestly don't really see it as a race thing, but that's maybe because my culture doesn't have slavery in it's history and we are not really a nation where racism is the thing. So me not seeing it in this is maybe because of that, my pov and experience is different from the people in the USA. I hope they don't make it a thing, because you don't really need that angle in this dynamic. But, if they somehow manage to add it in a meaningful and interesting way I'd be OK with it. At first I was too confused about the race swap but as you said the writers made it work. I have faith in them so far.
As for Luis not having a reason to love Lestat, I think he has but I think he is preoccupied with his redemption and depression (which, both are valid) to be able to remember why he liked Lestat. And I also think that it goes with his character to not show love openly - which can cause problems if your partner needs love to be shown that way.
@@jelenavucic2293 Here in the US, there's been a lot of stuff involving race - forcing race swaps on characters, double stands and hypocritical stuff... So, it's definitely a bit more of a concern. I hope they don't go that route with this show, because that's not what the story was ever about, and there's no need to use this show to push some agenda.
@@StrawberryShorty All of the white people aren't villainous. The original madam at the Fairplay (Miss Carol?) was white and kind. Peg Leg Doris has been helpful and respectful. Antoinette is under the impression that Louis and Lestat have an open marriage and protected them by refusing to gossip. Most of the white people we see are female prostitutes or entertainers who work for Louis and have less power than him in the world, or customers waiting their turn, who we know little about, but they are willing to frequent a business owned by a Black man.
But the white men with speaking parts are portrayed as evil almost across the board. Those are the interactions the unreliable narrators choose to highlight. Consider that when you judge Lestat.
I have to say after catching up on the series that I was wrong for judging the show because it's an AMC production. There is such a depth and richness to the characters that I can overlook that it isn't a direct adaptation.
The acting is also just superb from everyone. It's the same executive producer from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, so I am not surprised it's good.
+Dead-Owl PRECISELY.
@@DejaVu-901 YES. The acting in this show is the best part of it.
Also, on things they did right IMO.
I thought that Claudia's psychotic break was really well done. And I loved how they actually showed her recovery. She actually clawed her way back to a form of peace and sanity. And I thought that was a wonderful little arc. I wouldn't have minded if she had learned that other vampires could be monsters in a different form of encounter, but I liked her resilience, her emerging maturity, and her desire to see herself more as an equal - Louis's sister rather than his child.
I also thought that the ending with Grace was very well done. It was heartbreaking, of course, but still done in a loving way. She reached out to him. She knew he was changed, knew he was dangerous (if only by connection to Lestat), but she still said goodbye. And Louis let her go.
"Is Anne Rice ok?" made me laugh a little because yeah, seriously
Probably just got bored writing only about Vampires. The alien storylines are actually really good as are her Mayfair Witches books.
Man I was so upset when she passed
On a lighter note, I gained a lot of respect for Daniel for slapping Louis. It showed me (who never read the books to know Daniel's personality) that he'll stand up for himself even against a vampire.
+Ndestructible Yep. On one hand, I don’t blame Daniel at all for slapping Louis for messing with his hand. On the other hand, Daniel shouldn’t have pushed too far regarding Claudia and should’ve respected Louis’ wishes of not exploiting her. Both were in the wrong.
"Because, of course he does, he's Louis" - I dunno why but that just hit _exceptionally_ right!
Refreshing her channel every 15 minutes hoping to find the newest vampire review from episode 6, it was too much to unravel, can't wait
I'm kinda mad they did that to Claudia tbh. She did not need the additional trauma. Y'know what I'm talking about
Claudia needed to grow up. She was ritualistic, mass murdering hellion. Bruce was just the dose of vampire reality she needed.
@@Elaiyel people can grow up without getting r4ped
Agree 100%, not to mention we don’t get to hear how she felt in that moment or how she escaped. Did that moment change her or make her “stronger”? The writers did Claudia a disservice for that.
@@Ariel_is_a_dreamer She needed to experience how vicious other vampires can be. She was out of control.
@@Elaiyel She's still gonna go after other vampires though. It didn't change anything.
The video title sums it up well. Honestly loved this episode. For some reason I'm drawn to heartbreaking nonsense. But they messed up big time by not putting a trigger warning on this episode.
Seeing domestic violence is always distressing, and the show did a fantastic job of making it horrible to watch, despite all the vampire super-powers being thrown around.
Everybody is very heated about this episode and I agree it’s very hard to watch.
Lestat’s physical abuse of Louis wasn’t expected but I think it serves a purpose for the show.
We know Lestat will suffer a terrible consequence for his treatment
towards Louis and Claudia.
We know Louis was still very angry with Lestat during the 1st interview with Daniel. I guess at some point between then and present they reconcile.
Hopefully we get to see Lestat’s regret for his actions toward Louis.
It would be really jarring if they somehow endeing up together after that.
@@anrysse If they follow the books and some how get to the last book in series. They get back together. Both of them maturing over the years. Louis getting some closer with Claudia. By finding out she really didn't care for him like that. By thinking he's the more easy to manipulate and control.
@@keisharobinson7093 I know they end up together in the books. With how things are currently developing in the show it would be strange and frankly upsetting to have them back together after that.
@@anrysse The writers seem to be liking their relationship more to Hannigram than what's depicted in Anne Rice's earlier books. Keep in mind that after Claudia's death Louis eventually becomes less human and more Vampire. When Lestat loses Louis and under the torment of Armand and a longtime of solitude he changes as well.
It's very easy to sum up their entire relationship to just that time period when they basically live forever.
@@anrysse The fight has a lot of loophole or alot of missing graps. For one it's from Claudia pov. Lestat had grab Claudia and force her to the wall. But we never seen him hit her. Louis tackle Lestat off screen. We don't know if Louis threw the first punch. Because the fight was happening so fast. Claudia had a hard time keeping up. Louis could had gotten in some hits. But Lestat being stronger probably didn't hurt him. But they was a couple of time Louis tackle Lestat off screen.
Domestic abuse is serious and it horrible for Louis having to go through that. But we don't know what type of fight Louis put up off screen. Because is from Claudia pov. But from Lestat pov he could be defending himself. Alot of this story is from Louis and some of it's Claudia pov. So later down the road. Louis forgive Lestat. Not a excuse for Lestat behavior. Just a loophole the writers more then likely will use.
It was heartbreaking yes. And it worries me because the actors have stated that they are endgame but it was well done nonetheless. The subject matter is horrific but the acting was good!
Claudia’s Revirginizing is a callback to True Blood..
+Kanyinsola My thoughts exactly!!! I don’t know how they’ll be able to get back together after this BS.
I feel like this episode showed me how much Lestat really loves Louis. The pain when he was asking Louis for some sort of confirmation of love was so real, toxic love, but I felt it. The fighting was terrifying. But maybe because the Lestat actor did so damn good and making me hate n still think he is beautiful at the same time
so far this series has been absolutely amazing and so well written.i was worried about how diff this is going to be from the books but OMG it is my new obsession ! the 2 actors did a wonderful job and the chemistry is Fire
can't wait for the rest of the episodes and hopefully we get S2
It alreadt renewed for season 2 before premiere
@@shesokayiguess Really?!! i didnt know that
thanks
I assumed, which may never be confirmed or denied by the show, that Claudia couldn't make a new vamp either because she was too young a vamp herself and therefore didn't have the power, or because she didn't have the skill to drink to just the point of death with them and so was over or under drinking and it wouldn't take.
This comment contains book and 90’s movie spoilers(ish), so if you haven’t already and want to read/watch them- don’t read this.
In the books she couldn’t make a new vampire bc she was an actual child. She was physically too small to take or give enough blood to turn someone. I’m not sure if they are still using that reasoning since she has been aged up? Louis WOULDN’T do it until Claudia begged him to in Paris, but even then it didn’t last bc Armand did what Armand does and killed them both to try to manipulate Louis into staying with him. (There’s more that goes into it but if you watch the 90’s movie, you’ll catch the drift of it almost the same as in the 1st book.)
“Unless she can find another vampire her age”…. Where could she possibly find another vampire with the body of a teenager? Oh wait…. I’m starting to suspect they’ll change how the relationships work between Armand, Louis, Claudia…. And I’m starting to wonder if Daniel’s story with Armand won’t be done with Rashid instead. The other thing I’m also quite suspicious of is if you look at opening segment of episode 1, there are pictures of Daniel at various ages. All of them are of the actor, except the one that might be from the 70s which appears to be another actor as a young Daniel. Could we be getting a San Francisco flashback?
It was a destabilizing episode as a book reader, but I can’t shake off the feeling that for all the changes the series not only works as its own thing, but also that it really captures something of Rice in a unique way, and perhaps the most important: it may not be even close to faithful to the first book, but it’s a great vampire drama. Highlight of the episode: the acting. The three mains are fantastic. Sam Reid was absolutely possessed and scary in this one (though his pseudo French when angry is atrocious, not easy not get distracted by this as a native speaker).
There is a flashback to the night Louis and Daniel first met in episode 6. You can see the actor cast as young Daniel on IMDb. Also the video of his audition for the role has been going around recently if you want to see him act and hear part of what the flashback scene will be.
@@MavenoftheEventide Interesting! Thanks for the info (and for the breakdown-they really add something to the weekly experience!)
I'm with Lestat, you ain't leaving me after all we been through lol
THIS EPISODE BROKE ME. It started off rather campy and goofy and eventually took an extremely dark turn. I didn't expect to be terrified and in tears, especially at the end of the episode. Even though her killing innocent people is EVIL, whatever happened to Claudia by that other vampire was HORRIFIC. The scene between Louis and his sister was HEARTBREAKING. And the sequence at the end of the episode was DIFFICULT TO WATCH. It was a mixture of nightmare fuel and tearjerking. What's so scary is that there are families who are in these types of situations and the children get caught in the crosshairs. Just seeing Claudia terrified and trying to stop Lestat from continuing to beat Louis got me. This gives Claudia more incentive to FEAR and HATE Lestat.
So tht episode scene brought this memory i had suppressed straiiiiight to the forefront of my mind and it fucked me up for DAYS. My dad nearly broke my moms back in a fight they had as i screamed powerless to stop it. Looking on from my rooms doorway, as a small child screaming to stop fighting with every fiber of my being and begging for my dad to calm down as my mom antagonized him further and further, mocking him as he lost control of himself in bloodlust.
It was one of the worst days of my life, and i didnt remember it until i saw it play out on screen.
Im not sure if i appreciate it so that now i at least understand a defining moment in my backstory and a reason for my fucked up brain, or if im resentful that they unlocked that flashback id locked away since i was 5 years old...
@@hughmungus431 MY GOD. Reading your comment made me cry. I’m terribly, terribly sorry that you went through that as a child. You shouldn’t have had to experience that at all. Neither your mother. I’m so sorry that this episode triggered your memory. I’m so, so so sorry. 🥺😢😭
I hope that you seek therapy for yourself. Since that traumatic memory was repressed in your mind, you need to talk to a psychiatrist about that and see how you must handle it. Believe me, it helps.
I’ve been in therapy since I was a teenager due to constant abuse from my father, bullying at school, and other personal issues. My father also tried to do physical harm to my mother when I was a child. She fought back though. Still, I wish that it didn’t happen. And I wish that what you went through didn’t happen.
After watching this episode, I couldn’t help but think of the people who were watching this show that are dealing with or have dealt with domestic violence and child abuse. I was afraid that this was going to trigger those who are or who have been in these situations. Sadly, I was proven right. And what’s worse is that it kind of came out of nowhere. Like it happened just like that. SMH. To this day, I refuse to watch this episode again along with episodes four and six. These three particular episodes left me feeling depressed, angry, and disgusted. Yes, I know it’s fiction. But, you’d be surprised how fiction can have some realism that can hit close to home, and it ain’t always pretty.
Blessings to you. ❤️🌹
@@Gabreya love you thank you fir the kind words. I'm in therapy and have been for a while I think actually this might very unlocked one of the memories that was messing with me so badly emotionally... there's a part of me that's grateful and a part that's resentful I'm not sure how to interpret it
i really do love the show but i am not gonna pretend that them making Lestat a monster on a whole other level didnt make me feel some kind of way.
Same. Lestat was a lot of things even in the books but this was a whole other level.
It's the unreliable Narrator perspective of Claudia which is why it was so brutal and visceral. To a child her parents fighting would feel and seem as if the world was falling apart. Notice how there debris and everyone in everyone and yet nothing on lestat they did this very very cleverly.
I noticed that too! His black outfit shouldn’t have been so pristine and dust-free after a fight like that.🤔 I’m calling bs on this episode being the truth.
@@erwillow2095 I had my reservations about the series when it was announced but I have to give props where it's due they took a property, & characters that mean so much to an entire subculture of former children of the 90s and the books and they are doing a phenomenal job at giving them weight and depth.. I think this show is going to end up becoming the Killin Eve type of cultural hit in terms of its viewership
@@QuEsT_X Agreed!
@𝕋𝟛𝕚𝕣 One thing about Claudia though, is that she isn’t entirely trustworthy. In the books it’s revealed that she never really cared about Louis and used him because he was easier to manipulate than Lestat.
@𝕋𝟛𝕚𝕣 You said it. They’ll be making a huge mistake if they tried that knowing that most people are now pretty much against Lestat after what he did to Louis and Claudia.
Lestat was still only 150 years old, an infant in the vampire world. He made mistakes in droves, Louis and Claudia should've never been turned. Lestat was lonely and as lonely people do (me at one time) make poor decisions regarding partners. I love the books wholeheartedly, enjoyed them so much. Tom Cruises portrayal was okay but after reading the books, then watching this portrayal Sam Reid is Lestat.
Sam Reid is definitely the Lestat we have been waiting for.
The f**k?
@@baronsengir187 pardon?
@@derekrogers1984 Never heard that about him.
@@baronsengir187 he's exactly who I pictured in my head while reading the masterpieces
This episode was brutal.💔💔💔
I'm more confused about this episode than anything. They said they are going for more nuanced, sympathetic and well-rounded Lestat. More romance than horror. How is this it? They not only not made him more sympathetic but made him actively worse. I don't remember anything of the sort (of magnitude and intensity) happening in the first book. I am deeply confused by their decision. But, not gonna lie, very intrigued about the rest of the season.
Page 74 & 75 of my copy of the book describe multiple violent fights
@@nicolacallahan admittedly it's been years since I read it. But I wrote about fights of the same magnitude and intensity. I remember them fightings all right. Not Lestat beating Louis savagely to the brink of death and throwing him from the sky. I think those are different, this is a bit much. Although I'll stand corrected if I'm misremembering. Maybe something like this happens in other books?
@@shamesfitzshames3282 No, they have their fights, furniture gets flung and broken, houses get burned, but no, Lestat never actually hurts Louis to this extent. He slaps him once, he shoves him against a wall, but never... throw him down 10000 feet - that is an Armand thing to do.
@@shamesfitzshames3282 In the books he doesn't do anything at that level with Louis, but in this show everything is being more intensified, it was a difficult scene to watch but it's part of the show...
@Something Savage I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure most descriptions of their fights are meant to be shouting matches and property damage, because they’re never described as actual physical, come to blows, fights. however, Lestat IS notorious for demolishing furniture and homes lol
I don't think Lestat is glad that Claudia is gone. It was a betrayal in his mind and he won't admit it but it must have hurt pretty deeply. Everyone eventually leaves him (Magnus, Nicki, Gabrielle) so when he states that Claudia won't come back its bc people in his life usually don't. He doesn't want to have any hopes to be destroyed.
Lestat was depressed too in those seven years, that's why he left the house in such shape. He lost both Claudia and Louis, who blames him for her absence and doesn't pay Lestat any mind.
When Louis is waiting for Claudia to come back on the balcony, we see Lestat on the ground below, looking at the street. He seems to be waiting for her as well... Lestat can't forget her, no matter what he claims.
He lashes out and says horrible things to Claudia when she returns but it comes from hurt, not true disdain. If Lestat didn't love her I don't think he would be this bitter, this vile. He cares and shows it in all the wrong ways.
I have mixed feelings about the fight sene and agree a content warring is needed, but I will say this as an abuse survivor who watched one parent be abused by the other this seen depicted what it feels like to be the child seeing it. I though the actress who pays Claudia did a phenomenal job in her reactions to these events. I don't regret watching it but I do recommend people take time to let the sene digest. It's not for everyone and not wanting to see it is ok, but I'm glad there is a sene that captured how I felt as a child. People are allowed to find it in bad taste, but the reality it abuse exists in all communities and it is horrific.
I still love the show but daamn it was hard to watch this episode. Whatever sympathy I still had for Lestat is just gone with that violent outburst. The way he was talking of love after mangling the object of his affections? It just f***ks with my brain. After being in..bad relationships the absurdity of that situation just hits a bit "too close to home"("I hurt you because you don't love me properly. It's your fault really. You're the real monster here, not me"). It's hard to watch. Definitely won't be rewatching that episode. I really hope they keep Claudia's revenge and I hope it will be gruesome .
Also I felt sick after they hinted at assault by Killer. In the segment where showrunner gleefully talks how that assault "toughens her up" my blood was boiling. Really? Can we please not put female characters through this in those "prestige" shows? It doesn't "toughen"anyone up.
On the bright side I loved the music in this episode. And New Orleans corpse disposal. Ask a Mortician has a great episode about it.
When I saw that after-episode segment yesterday, my jaw absolutely dropped. I couldn’t believe he’d actually say that!! Those segments weren’t included in the episodes I got ahead of time to watch. If I had known about that before I made this video, I definitely would’ve addressed it. I hate that sexist trope!
@@MavenoftheEventide Right?! If I didn't see that segment I might've blocked that bit with Claudia from my mind, but that commentary just soured it for me😖
@@MavenoftheEventide I also am disgusted by the sex-tropes with Claudia: Why do TV producers go there? First the hymen thing (distastefull first of all and such a misogynistic trope and the very least based on lack of education in society and male TV producers) and stolen from TB where it was already just distastefull. Oh it is so funny, haha and to come up with something new, - well we top it and put some rape in there and she cannot even defend herself. Why sexualize a 14y old, because she wants to grow up, because she is actually older, because thats what women get, when they try to be independent? Sickening really. And to top it with crude violence and DA. So disappointed.
@@MavenoftheEventide I understand. What you guys said makes sense, however she's not a human. She's a vampire. She's basically part of another specie. I understand why the show runner said is triggering, but keep in mind she lives in a world of killers and she's one of them. Now, she knows that vampires are vile and vicious creatures and she's one of them .
@@corpeter Personally, I disagree. For me the episode was great. I don't understand why talking about hymen is a bad thing. Most men don't even know that word to be honest. Also, talking about sex and sexualizing someone is very different. I would say that they didn't sexualize her at all. They explained where she was coming from and how difficult it is to be an eternal teenager. For you,it might seem like a misogynistic trope however in the context of the episode it makes perfect sense. Also, I enjoy the violence in the episode, because more often than not,people forget how violent and murderous vampires are. That show isn't a PG-13 show. But I guess art is subjective. The episode didn't work for you but for me it was one of the best episodes of the show so far.
So that final scene with its violence was so brutal and sad to watch. At first I thought that’s not my Lestat - how could the show get it so wrong. But then I started thinking why would they do this? It makes sense for the show- Claudia was aged up. Claudia could survive on her own - she didn’t need Louis to go with her to Europe. In the books, she was six and won’t be able to manage alone. This was the reason she rose up against Lestat so she and Louis could go off on their own. In the series, they needed a reason for her not to just leave when she got sick of Lestat’s sh**. Now she has to stay and protect Louis and this is her reason for her attack on Lestat. IMHO
The universe of the series has already made it clear that the species are violent killers! This behavior of lestat and the violence suffered by claudia, even claudia's own attitude makes sense to me, and I like the idea that the vampire species lives in a limbo between human and animal, and that they intertwine, makes the story more interesting at least for me. but that being said, depending on the veracity of events, what happened is kind of unredeemable as a relationship.
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Agreed. I felt punched in the face a zillion times, only that it wasn't Lestat but AMC. :') The acting by everyone, it SPECTACULAR. But I am so so so very annoyed, and I have no idea what is going to happen, but whatever happens, happens, I suppose. The Cloud Gift scene was supposed to be lovely and sweet and cute like Queen of the Damned! Not this! But again, ugh lets wait for episode 6... AH.
yeah me too. I am like a pendulum, liking the show, yes, but changing it so drastically I am having difficulties separating it. Making a beloved character into a crass abuser, even though the signs were in the show as people point out, never would I have expected they turn it into that. And I am still hurting by the decision they made. I think the hurt comes less from the abuse in the scene( which is horrific), but the abuse of the character of Lestat.
I do not know how they want to redeem the character of Lestat after that. And yeah it was not Lestat but AMC.
And yes the actual cloud scene was one of those sweet sweet moments, you hardly ever got to see/read in the books and the loving bickering was L&L in a nutshell - so what a shock, having one of the few really romantic and humorous scenes of the book turned into a brutal nightmare, and an narcistic abuser abusing his lover.
I said somewhere before, Lestat is a lot, but I never thought him as a narcisist. Louis for me always stood for depression and dealing with depression. Lestat has a histrionic personality, sometimes even histrionic personality disorder. And those two personalities clash. This alone has enough drama. No fists needed.
@@corpeter Okay the signs were there, but these were the same kind of signs of manipulation and emotional abuse that Lestat sort of demonstrated in the books, but just swinging at us with him straight up nearly killing Louis was... incredibly harsh. Lestat definitely is coded as having some sort of histrionic or borderline personality disorder, correct, and see? It is enough for the drama and furniture being thrown around and all of that. The flying scene from QOTD was so sweet and random and cheesy as cheesy can go, and it breaks my heart that they decided to go with this.
OMG, I CANNOT WAIT FOR YOU TO DO EPISODE SIX!!!! No spoilers, but dang!
Holy crap, for real, I'm not gonna lie, I had some doubts about her theory at first, but I should have known better. I can't believe she hasn't posted yet to gloat hahah
@@lorehammer40k4 No spoilers as I haven’t watched yet cause I was lividly pissed at the end scene. Can you tell me a yes or no if the unreliable narrator was confirmed though? Because while I was down with the changes before, if it is now Canon that Lestat beat Louis like that I’m officially out.
@@chaotic7cam I mean, if you're asking about Louis being unreliable, then the very concept of the show is that Louis is absolutely demonstrably an unreliable narrator. If you're asking about other people being unreliable narrators, I'd say yes of course everyone is unreliable, for varying reasons. Now, this is slightly more spoilish, but not really, but have they said that Louis made it all up in the next episode? Of course not, but has there been independent corroboration of the claim? Um, no, the closest to that which Daniel has would be Claudia's diaries existing.
I guess it's only as official as you want it to be until you get a current Lestat admitting to it. It would probably be a good way to provoke Lestat if he hadn't seen him in a long time and wanted to get his attention with this warning to humanity about "a coming vampire apocalypse." It's kind of up to you who is telling the truth at this point, that's the nature of Daniel's format, right?
Loved loved this ep. So intense! So good!!!
I noticed this is the first time I've seen Lestat in completely black clothing. He usually wore something colorful but not this time. What do you think?
Episode 5 hurt my feelings 😭😭😭
This Episode was a bitter drink for me. First i still dont know why on earth would Louis and "Armand" would go these lenghts to convice Daniel that Rashid is not a vampire other than play with the audience. Also i'm so clueless on why Lestat with all his power (that BTW, he is even more powerful than on the books) is able to mind control about 30 soldiers at the same time but not to mind control 4 policemen that are snooping around their house or use this time stop / superspeed to hide evidence. Or even use their political influence to keep things out of the light.
I kinda liked "Killer" cameo and suprisingly his timeline is right? *Shooks* But his devious character was super off putting for me, like he literally turns and save 14yo girl (Baby Jenks) and he is like a father to her.
Lestat being physically violent towards Louis was painful. He was a man that killed with words not with fists at least on a Louis context
Maven, me too, I worried you got snatched by Claudia!!! I'm glad you had a great time at the ball, cant wait to see your review of episode 6!!! Me and my wife are waiting!!! Thank you in advance!!!
So Louis is a libra and Lestat is a Scorpio. No wonder their love was so tumultuous 😮
But you want to know whats funny.... both actors are pisces in real life
@@remholloway2579 Correction: Sam Reid is an Aquarian. Jacob Anderson is a Gemini.
My very thought. Lestat and Louis behave just like their signs.
@@Elaiyel l am aquarian too but l can tell you louis as libra and lestat as scorpio is just toxic l have a scorpio friend but we are very diffrent from eachother and we fight we have been friends for 10 years and until now l keep saying l must be careful with scorpio 🙄
@@zainahmed5294 As you probably already know, both Aquarius and Scorpio are strong fixed signs and very loyal to their friends. You are quite right to be wary! Just as your Scorpio mate is feels fortunate to have you as good friend. Stay strong and always be true to yourself. ☀️
The funny part of how they made her 14yrs old is it ruins so many plot points, she's big enough to make a Vampire unlike child Claudia, and 14yrs old was the age of marriage in those times. They should've kept ger under 12yrs and the old story would've worked! I did like how Lestat took Louise into the sky, which was a hat tip to "Interview with the Vampire". and the shot of the sun also a hat tip to Lestat's attempted suicide in the desert, where he flew into the stratosphere as high as he could until the sun arose.
28:32 I think Lestat doesn't clean the house because he is too sad that Louis doesn't pay attention to him.
I was reminded of Louie’s brother at the end of the episode. I cried.
So many thoughts on this episode!
-Why didn't they just freeze time when the Po-Po was at their house so they could hide evidence?
-Why did the writers decide to make Claudia experience SA? It added NOTHING to the story. I am glad they didn't show it though
-Why perpetuate the stereotype that Bi individuals can't be trusted in a monogamous relationship?
-Why have Lestat beat Louis to a pulp?
-Why not make that cute little trash panda (raccoon) a pet? (Sorry things got heavy and this is my pallet cleanser)
I'm still enjoying the ride that is this show even though this week was a lot to process. I'm also jealous that you're going to ARVLFC ball. I haven't been in ages. Have fun!
I think the time freezing is their psychic manipulation/super speed at play.
I don't think it perpetrates him being bi is the reason he can't be trusted. Whenever he gets lonely or wants attention he lashes out in some way and he hasn't been getting anything from Louis for 7 years. It's a Loustat problem, not a bi problem. You often see a partner cheat when the other is depressed or no longer focusing on them.
I know I am a year late in reply, I just stumbled upon your amazing page. But I take a little offense with how you have described this Louis and Lastat's relationship . I found this show equally amazing and heartbreaking. I was a part of a gay, interracial relationship on and off for 12 years. This show PERFECTLY displays what I went through. Was it problematical, hell yes. But did I feel in love and a love unlike any other, still YES! HE WAS OLDER, and yet less mature. When we ended things, it felt to me what Lestat does to Louie here. I was let go too.....but I'm still recovering years later.
Wasn't Claudia five years old in the book?
And yes, some women would prefer being a housewife to being a prostitute or a permanent adolescent.
I made the mistake of watching Ep. 5 with Ep. 10 of House of the Dragon, oh boy did I screwed the pooch on that one...
Ita good to see how excited you are for departues from the source material - given how verboten fans were to really basic adaptation woes in those Halo, Resident Evil & Rings of Power series
This episode was epically tragic...I loved it so much
Lestat going nuts on Louis was crazily out of character for me. It really felt like the writers wanted to give Claudia a motive for her trying to murder him, it’s a shame that they went the domestic violence route seeing as she already had a motive in the book without Lestat beating the hell out of them.
I want to watch your videos when they come out but I do not have AMC+ so I'm only coming up on episode 4. Love your videos though. Excited to finally be able to watch your episode 4 one after tonight.
What is Daniel going to do when he meets Lestat? I think he will this season, even just for a second and without much reaction, the cliffhanger.
This show really has only taken place over 2 days so far? So maybe one more day, so all the good and bad will still be swimming in Daniels head. Not to mention he will have thought that Lestat was dead based on where Louis pauses his story.
I was with them until this episode, this is not the Lestat from the books and I don't think Anne Rice would appreciate it considering the character of Lestat was loosely based on her own husband!
You already read the book so why would you want to watch the same thing
We already know Lestat is literally a murderer but domestic violence is where you draw the line? LOL.
@@lolilol5346 It is crime to see your favorite books comes to life?I dont think 🤨
@@ThaSweetHart Yes. This is vampires, and with fiction there is an amount you can forgive, since it’s FICTIONAL. But when you unnecessarily throw in very REAL horrible trait’s onto a character, when it was NEVER like that in the book, my view of Lestat was most definitely soured. He’d never harm Louis like he did in that end scene in the books, and given Lestat is the Main Character of the majority of the books… how am I supposed to like him? There is a line to be drawn when fictional meets a sad sad reality for a lot of people in domestic violence relationships.
An interesting tidbit regarding Armand. I was wondering why they would be so secretive about which actor will play Armand -- the only way I can see that being a "spoiler" is if we've already seen the actor but didn't know he was meant to be Armand. Then I remembered Episode 4, when Daniel walks in on Rashid's prayer. When Rashid says "asr namozi" Daniel perks up and says something along the lines of "That's not Arabic -- what is it, Crimean?" Well, it's Uzbek, which has a strong link to the Crimean Tartars. All of that history took place in the area where Armand was born -- and in the books, he was kidnapped from Kiev by Tartars. You can tell they placed that detail in there for a reason, that conversation isn't just for fun, so I'm wondering if we'll get a real surprise at the end of the season regarding Rashid and Armand. The way he's always wearing gloves and placed just outside direct sunlight, his completely different reaction to being fed from (as you already pointed out.) There's definitely something lurking below the surface with him, and with all the changes they've made, anything is possible. Really looking forward to seeing the reveal of this mystery!
That’s exactly what I said in my video about Episode 4!
@@MavenoftheEventide Oh my gosh, I just discovered the channel like 2 days ago so I hadn't even seen that video yet! I just watched it and was like "Oh dang, she's already on top of it!"
Please use Kyiv, which is Ukrainian name for their capital city. I am sure you can imagine why Ukrainians do not want people around the world to address the city with the Russian name Kiev.
@@MavenoftheEventide Every time I post on your CZcams channel. I get strange messages from your account
@@Busha69 Who cares? That’s the problem with most ppl these days! Oh bc we are uncomfortable with it, don’t like it or I know, how about are ignorant and don’t understand it, let’s change the factual history about it so we can then twist a narrative that fits our linear perspective/s instead! Get over it! It’s Kiev and has been on an historically legendary level dating back to the 4th century and was NOT changed to Kyiv until 1995, therefore, get over it. It’s definitely been Kiev way longer than Ukraine has attempted to become a State trying to beg its way into NATO. So tired of idiots who just want to decide historical evidence and documentation either doesn’t exist or worse, doesn’t matter. But it’s okay, you can always join the deterritorialization of our histories, cultures, monuments, etc. even enjoy correcting others to appease your lacking concept/s of reterritorialization, but don’t forget that the history your all attempting to rewrite and destroy will always repeat itself.
Awesome episode, but BRUTAL. Still reeling from it.
But i thought it was hilarious that Lestat & Louis were trying to do the whole ‘united parenting’ front in the scene after the police search and then Claudia drops that bombshell that Lestat is still seeing his side piece. Recalling my teen years, that would totally destroy any cred my parents had at trying to discipline me. I wouldn’t have any respect for any ‘wisdom’ they offered after something like that. “Do as I say, not do as I do.”
I love that you have all of the books of The Vampire Chronicles on the left side in a tower! It looks SO good! 🤩
I'm waiting for all the episodes to come out so I can use my free trail to amc and binge them all at once but when I do I'll come back and watch all these reviews
Great review, as always. I can really find engaging MCs that are far more dark than light - Tommy Shelby (Peaky Blinders), Tony Soprano, so if the show is aiming to make Lestat a real anti-hero, as opposed to a lovable rogue, I could do that - even if it's a significant departure from the books. That said, I had hoped for End Game Loustat (I actually had been hoping that Lestat lived in Dubai, too, and we'd have a "hi, honey, I'm home" moment for the season finale). But I don't see how we can get to that from here, even after making significant allowances for it being "Claudia's POV."
I don't know why the writers went there, other than to make the case for why Lestat's murder was necessary/reasonable/justified - but to do so at the risk of destroying Lestat's character or the romantic arc? They could've had Claudia kill him in a still-mad state and just have Louis ineffectual and complicit. Crazily enough, my biggest fear going into this episode was that it would be *Louis's* character that would be destroyed because I thought that if he stood by and let Lestat be murdered, despite their long romance and relationship, he would come across as more a bastard than even Claudia.
But then we got... this. I'm trying to trust in the writers' vision. But episode 6 has a mighty heavy lift!
Why is Daniel so angry?…
no literally
He's old, sick and cranky
edit: And he talks to people who kill other people for food🤷♀
Louis instantly feels guilty over this, because of course he does, he's Louis.
Huh?
perfection, I laughed so hard when Maven said that!
Making Lestat so despicable is a really weird move for the show. If the goal is truly to create an Anne Rice universe than Lestat is way more important than Louie. He’s a complicated character we sometimes love to hate but always love, even while wicked he’s always incredibly entertaining and complex! This version of Lestat has no humour or vibrancy, he’s attractive but boring and his abuse in basic. If they want new audiences to fall in love with Lestat enough to continue the series they’re going about it the wrong way! The only way to fix it is that Claudia’s POV is completely disproven.
Agreed
Lmfao that’s a terrible idea
Idk about this episode. Claudia's assault isn't in the first book at all and Lestat is never physically abusive IIRC even though he's overall a worse person in the books than show. He's either completely unsympathetic now or Claudia is a very unreliable narrator. I'm really tired of the trope that a woman needs to be assaulted in order to have trauma or be strong.
I bet Rashid is in fact Armand...I hope not but since they don't care butchering the source material...
Rashid is human. How can he be Armand?
@R. I explain it all in this video as well as my video about episode 4. He’s definitely a vampire pretending to be human to trick Daniel.
@@r.4315 My guess is : he's Armand. Either Claudia's death never happened because of Armand's jealousy or it happened and he seeks to redeem himself by praying and being Louis' slave. But there is definitely something off with him in episodes four and five ! Plus, it may be the bridge for making Daniel a vampire.
I don't think Rashid is Armand. Rashid was praying like a Muslim and seems to be Arab and from Dubai. Armand was from Spain and helped eventually kill Claudia in Paris. I doubt Louis would be with him now.
@@randallross1703 Kind of a fair point and in the end you may be right. Yet... Don't forget two things : this is NOT a faithful adaptation, anyone who says the opposite did not read the books nor did understand the characters, i'm sorry to be that frontal. So if you keep that in mind, if you also remember that Armand is by far the most religious, the most pious vampire ( and not in a good way), it's not such a weird assumption to think that Rachid could be in fact Armand trying to redeem himself for Louis. Plus, don't forget that the showrunners are woke so it could make sense to have an arabic muslim Armand.
I loved this review! You made me laugh over and over again…Maven, you are naturally funny and a magnificent storyteller..Bravo!👏🏻
Okay soo I just so happen to be watching this in 11/07….Happy birthday Stan Rice‼️‼️‼️
I was so weirded out by that fight. So many rewrites to make the romance somewhat equal and redeemable, and then we're hit with a brutal scene of domestic abuse. I don't care that Lestat loves Louis anymore. An offscreen line of "I'm trying to keep myself back" does very little against the shot of him dragging Louis by the jaw etc.
Hi there, resident of the Lower Garden District here. Have really enjoyed your analysis of the show. Hope to see you at the second line! There is a new bistro attached to the book shop that I definitely recommend.
Thanks for the tip! I hope to see you there 😊
I know I'm late, but this episode honestly ruined the show for me. The SA was totally infuriating and unnecessary. It makes it so that even as vampires, women aren't safe from being victims of men and the borderline invincibility is why I like vampires in the first place. I'm genuinely disgusted.
Thats just a reflection from the real world, its very sad indeed.
I couldnt help but think while Lestat was giving his abuser "I'm doing this for you!" speech in the heavens to Louis that everything had to be about him, framed through his pov, no we, all I.
Like Louis has swollen eye sockets and a broken jaw but Lestat is there whining bout feeling loved, If Lestat wasn't feeling very loved in that moment, Imagine what was going through Louis mind and heart.
39:39 What Maven says here is not a completely accurate picture. In the IWTV novel, Lestat and Louis did have at least one knockdown brawl AND it was in relation to Claudia. The fight is not described in great detail in the book, which is perhaps why the fandom is overlooking it, but it did happen.
In the chapter where Louis first stumbles upon Claudia in the room with her dead mother and Lestat catches him in the act of feeding on Claudia, they end up fighting back at the hotel. Here's an except:
"...I was utterly out of my mind. I went round and round the room looking for some way to kill him....Reason had altogether left me, so that I was consummate rage, and when he came through the broken glass, we fought as we'd never fought before...It was hell that stopped me...I lost my confidence, my purpose, my grip. I was down on the floor then, and he was standing over me, his eyes cold, though his chest heaved. "You're a fool, Louis" he said...The fight had got the better of him in some way; or something had."
Therefore, we can infer that there was more than just hysteria-cancelling slaps between them. Additionally, there's a mention of a second physical altercation in a scene where Lestat goes to slap Claudia. Again, no great details provided.
"When he spoke, often she didn't answer him....And our fragile domestic tranquility erupted with his outrage. He did not have to be loved, but he would not be ignored; and once he even flew at her, shouting that he would slap her, and I found myself in the wretched position of fighting him as I'd done years before she'd come to us."
This reads like a sadly common scenario with dysfunctional families. One parent wants to physically discipline the kid, the other parent tries to stop it, and then the parents come to blows over this disagreement.
Nevertheless, I agree the show did turn up the level of violence as compared to the books. I also agree that the fight was more one-sided and Lestat's actions came across as assault. Though to paint a fuller picture and give the show some credit, throughout the entire fight scene in episode 5, Lestat was pleading with Louis to stop fighting him and that he didn't want to hurt Louis. I really only caught this in the subtitles on my 2nd time watching the episode.
Pardon the spelling/grammatical mistakes. It's way too late at night for me to be writing out such long comments. :]
Cheers.
yes, they indeed had the fight but Lestat has never reduced Louis such a state as in the show and as you said, in the show it mostly really looked like one sided assault and domestic violence situation.
+Natalie Richards WOW. I had no idea about any of that. So, what was depicted in the show was partially accurate to the novel.
Lestat never beat Louis like he does in the show. The rows and fights in the book were like I described in the video. Never punching him over and over in the face like he does in the show. Never leaving any wounds on him.
@@MavenoftheEventide Oh. Got it. I haven’t read the novel yet, and I’m still learning more about The Vampire Chronicles. Still, what was depicted in the show made it so visceral and disturbing. And correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard that this episode was briefly pulled from AMC+ because there were many people who were too disturbed by it.
There was no explanation for why it was briefly pulled. It was completely random and weird. They pulled it down for about an hour, then it came right back exactly the same as it was before. People thought maybe they pulled it to add a content warning to the beginning, but there was nothing. A total mystery.
I cant help but feel Lestat is being done dirty considering in the books he was a young vampire without answers and Claudia decided on her own to get rid of him. It feels like trying to justify why she would act violently toward him, presuming she tries to kill him. I always had this feeling Lestat loved too hard and was left by gabrielle and nicki, then louie and claudia, but there was never SUCH a violence toward his loves?? I loved this adaption so far but ep5 has turned me off ngl...
Same. I’m done unless this is resolved. I thought they were planning on doing an entire Immortal Universe, and given Lestat is the main character in the majority of the books… screw this director/writer for making these changes. I was down with the changes before because at least the show was still true to the heart of the books…. but just screw this cause that’s no longer the case. They ruined Lestat.
Was caught red-handed showing feelings
Showing feelings of an almost human nature
I want to also note that even though I’m still reeling from this episode, I do like how they had shot the end sequence. It made me feel like I was transported into the scene and I was trying to escape. The way the camera moved and the atmosphere was extremely effective. And the acting from Jacob Anderson, Sam Reid, and Bailey Bass were incredible.
Lestat, lestat….someone shat in his hat
I was surprised that Lestat played a Scriabin prelude on the piano, that was very refreshing! :)
Can’t wait for you to do the next video. Brilliant insights and comparison to the book ❤
So far I have avoided this show altogether as I’ve been burned repeatedly by bad adaptations lately and as someone who has read these books since I was a teen…..I’m worried that if they go too far off script it’ll let me down.
watch it as its own separate thing
the writing is pretty good and the acting is phenomenal and they have great chemistry too . i don't think its gonna disappoint you
give it a try
On its own its a great show...just don't watch it as a purist of the book- think of it as an alternate universe of sorts
amc really cashing in on using these iconic characters to make their own story. it's a total disappointment.
Rashid is not human. The Russian guy got visibly weakened. Rashid didn't even bat an eyelid
@ Freddy Jafar, I disagree. Rashid is human. That was the whole point of showing that scene. Vampires don't normally feed off other vampires for nourishment. Also Louis said before he offers himself to him, Rashid consumes pineapples and honey.. So yeah, he's human.
@Io inthenightsky ok true
But what with the gloves and staying out of the sunlight?
@@JB-nx3el that pineapple reference tho
Haha
Agree. They don't make choices like keeping him out of direct sunlight and having him wear gloves for no reason - as a writer, those stand out to me as purposeful significant details, along with many more. He most certainly could be acting as a servant to Louis for a specific reason -- penance for a grievous act, for example. And there's nothing stopping a vampire from eating pineapple and honey -- in this show they can eat food, it just doesn't taste good. It doesn't automatically mean he's human, there was an entire discussion of that during dessert. I think Rashid's odd level of devotion to Louis will make a lot more sense in the final episode.
love the review, I was scared you would hate it. Because i LOVED it, that fight was Marvel epic. Sad, yes heartbreaking, yes but epic. Not disappointed as a book and Movie fan. Also happy they made the suble abuse of Lestat physical. I always find emotion abuse and love bombing and emotional control to be worse than Domestic physical violence
Cause physical abuse is so easy to see, but emotional abuse is so darn insidious that most people don't know it's happening and it harder to convince other people.
This Lestat is GORGEOUS! If he was real, I'd have a very hard time staying out of trouble with him! LOL!
The harm he did to Louis makes him so human and moundaine, Lestat was wicked but whit sophistication. It would never do somenthing this course. Actually he is the one that falls from a tower and breaks all his bones! One time he beat Armand but after he drinked his blood. I don't know how I feel about this. It can't just be a "deus ex machina" to let Claudia get revenge, and I am disappointed if they will explain this with " it was just his fury, jelousy and frustration".
@mavenoftheeventide new subscriber here - your recaps/reviews of the episodes are well explained and concise, looking forward to ep 6. ps have a fantastic time in New orleans xx
I'm pretty sure that Louis burned the tapes and made Daniel delete the digital copies because Louis never believed that Daniel was ever 100% totally on board with the new narrative this whole time and was largely only going through the motions as if Daniel was in board with it just keep Louis talking and Louis wanted to seize the opportunity to make sure that Daniel couldn't have a change of mind or back out of that pretense later[ so it actually makes perfect sense to me that it would come back up again once Louis is clearly withholding not entirely unlike how Lestat was often withholding from Louis and Claudia in the past]. But maybe that was just me..🤔😅😁😁
Lestat and Louis do have a very toxic relationship in the book and violence, or the threat of violence, very much plays a role in it given that Louis and Claudia eventually try to murder Lestat. I imagine it must be difficult to portray all that love and hate in a visual medium without turning the subtextual violence into actual text.
Yes, everything is more intense and explicit in this show
people should just straight up admit that this is no longer the books. no effing wonder why christopher won't endorse this show. you can like the show all you want, but to keep insisting that this isn't disrespectful to anne rice's books is just massive cope and sheer dishonesty.
The way hardly anyone saw Lestat's actions with Louis as abusive until he actually hits him makes me think you're right. I hardly saw any fans taking Louis's feelings of losing his family, having to become a killer, and Lestat mocking his reluctance to do these things as well as being upset when they opened the relationship when he was the one who started it, taking Louis to the opera when he's distraught over his nephew etc into account until now. Louis may have held back on loving Lestat entirely and such but Lestat disregarding his very real feelings at every turn is terrible behavior. He's selfish and spoiled and constantly throwing tantrums. Someone who withdraws, like Louis, isn't good for Lestat and he is not good for Louis.
I think all the people who are mad that they are not sticking to the books when it comes to Lestat’s behavior are going to get what they want once we get to Lestat’s perspective. I feel like hes going to have redemption and be closer to the Lestat that I’m hearing is in the books. Maybe not
I think you're right.
I really hope so. He’s been my favorite character since I was a little kid and to have him depicted as a husband-beater breaks my heart. This is out of character for him.
@@carolinaalvarez1402 It better be resolved. Don’t think I’ll continue watching until I hear that it (hopefully) has been. I watched this episode a week early and I’m still fuming.
Punched you in face?! Repeatedly?! And you liked it?! I am uncomfortable now. But please continue the reviews anyway!
Domestic violence gurl, its giving domestic violence
This episode was a dang nail biter
I’m so happy this channel is still up. It’s awesome 🔥
Maybe they are doing the What We Do In The Shadows thing where vamps can get drunk or high off of drug blood. 🤣☠️
Lestat has gotten drunk through blood in the books.
@@carolinaalvarez1402 omg ur right, I forgot about that. So yup drug blood rules lmao.
Im loving the show so far.
My question is who is Lestat talking to in the preview of episode 6? He says something like, “Claudia is poisoning Louis against me.” Could it be that we get to hear HIS side of the story???😳😱🤯
The line was edited for the trailer. The actual line in the episode is “She is poisoning you against me.” We heard it already in a previous trailer. The editor probably thought it wasn’t clear who he was talking about so spliced in a clip from a different line of him saying Louis’s name just for the sake of clarity. He’s just talking to Louis.
OR if It was the FIRST version of the line that was edited in the previous trailer, and THIS is actually the right one, the only other person he could be talking to is Antoinette, and we know she’s in the next two episodes.
ETA: aha! I was right on the second guess! It seems weird that the first trailer changed it to "you" instead of his name. But trailers are weird sometimes🤷
@@MavenoftheEventide Ah! I see. How could the editor play with my feelings like that?! 😭
"Because of course he does; he's Louis"
All you need to know about Jacob Anderson as Louis.
I wonder why nobody noticed the smell of dead ppl with the incinerator thing.. since it should smell, and it's noticeable the hard odor....
I was wondering if it would constantly smell like they were having a backyard BBQ over there 😅
Episode 5, kicked my tuckus!. For the algorithm.
This episode was brutal. Wow