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@@LucidFL all the sources he used were Russian. Unless youve actively studied the Russian Civil War in detail, it'd be easy to overlook. No need to condescend, especially to viewers of this educational channel. We all come here to learn.
So very ironic, given that the kerensky ans later the Moscow Soviet moved Nicky and his family, to western Siberia, first to Tobolsk and then to "Red Ekaterinburg" because the peasants and workers there hated them so much, indeed where they finally were executed.
Fascinating video! The Russian Civil War is generally understood - in the U.S. at least - to be a fight between the generically right vs left, but the conflicts involving the various agrarian socialist and anarchist factions against the Bolsheviks during the period illustrate how multifaceted things really were. And those episodes catch my interest the most! Awesome presentation!
@@rbtclol Not worn a mask once. Not socially distanced at all. Obviously not partaking in the biggest pharmaceutical scam ever. And I have felt and continue to feel absolutely fantastic throughout this whole stupid thing :o)
Jesse Alexander, among the best, if not the best Presenter on You Tube today. His information is easy to digest and retain. His narrative is well thought out and arranged, Light years ahead of any of my College Professors.
I liked the alternative closing reamrk more (see subtitles): "that wants a japanese-mexican-tsarist-bolsheviks bullet for its collection" it really captures the international but chaotic situation of post WW1 Russia and wars of the period in general.
In earlier Russian Civil War videos you analysed the Red and the White armies, with some coverage of other groups such as the Anarchist Blacks. But you also mentioned The Greens, who I recall operated to the east of the most of the conflict. Were the people in this video the Greens, or were they a different crowd?
@@TheGreatWar Very cool of you to answer and specify. P.s. I like the new background, but please don't kill off the old wood and leather one. Tis' classy. Peace my history nerds.
@@TheGreatWar Thanks for clarifying things. Experts on the Russian Civil War probably hate it, but as someone with only a little knowledge of the subject, 'colour coding' the armies makes it slightly easier to understand... except for the war(s) in Central Asia which add an extra level of complexity to everything.
No, it's not like that, different bandit groups were called green, the purpose of which was robbery, they had no political ideas, no one equated peasant uprisings in Russia with the name green, green are ordinary bandits who robbed where there is an opportunity, usually individual villages, refugees, that is, those who could not protect themselves, became their victims.
Great video! In fact the Greens were peasants or soldiers, who deserted both the Red and the White army and hided themselves mostly in the forests, therefore they were called "The Greens". They had more in common with the Black army of Anarchists, such as Nestor Makhno and mostly didn't attack him or even they join his forces, as his army was mostly volunteerely, and their main revolt which they started was as against the politics of drafting to the Red or to the White army and huge amount of requisitions, especially surplus appropriation by the Red Army.
So the Bolshevic forces in Siberia were fighting against peasants with outdated rifles using bullets made in Japan meant originally meant for Mexico while Japan was occupying the far east of Russia.... magical times there were, indeed
Not only Japan. There was an invasion by England and France in the north, also Finland. Germany and Poland to the west. Japan and the United States in the east, as well as the Czechs. It's amazing how the Bolsheviks were able to cope with this. And it’s not clear why this is called a civil war. This is a foreign invasion and collaborators.
@@ruthlesstruth8639 Well, the Bolsheviks were able to cope with it because the foreign invasions were fairly small and both the US and the UK lost interest rather quickly and left. Also: The invasion in the west by the germans ended in 1918 when the US and UK forced Germany to give back the territory to the Soviets, the Soviets didn't have to cope with that. Also: Poland didn't invade the Soviet Union but the Soviets tried to overrun Poland and possibly push further into a defenseless Germany but were stopped by the Poles at the Vistula. And I fail to see how it's not a Civil War if the main conflicts are between the Soviets and various Russian factions, most notably the Whites but also peasants.
Yeah chum! 😃 Not speaking of the Chezhoslovakian corps whose forces were from Czechs soldiers-previosly the citizens and subjects of the Austria-Hungarian Empire who deserted to Russian army for sympathy for the slavic people and they became Czech legion, and after the Revolution it was decided to give and transport them to France as their new legislated government by the Transsiberian railway to the Pacific Ocean, then to the USA and at last to Europe as it was very dangerous to transport them to the West in order not to be captured and by Germany and after the ethnic fighting with the Hungarian deserters who stuck in another train and wanted to join the Red Army and an attempt of the Bolsheviks to disarm them they made a revolt and helped White Army to make power in Siberia. You don't say...)
@@ShadowSumac Not half at all. There were few of them. Yes, they were collaborationists. Weapons, equipment, they all received from foreign governments that invaded Russian territory to plunder and kill
This is very interesting. Usually accounts of russian civil war end with defeat of admiral Alexander Kolchak, or with Kronstand rebellion being last hurrah of the counter-revolution (one document even called fall of Kronstad as "the last flame of largest revolution of our time"). This is not unlike how French revolution ends in death of Robespierre, despite that it went on 5 years after it.
As a side note. 100 hundred years ago on September the 15th 1921 General Ungern-Sternberg was executed at the Mashtakov house in Novosibirsk. Damn i was so looking forward to a full video dedicated to the baron! but anyway Russian Civil war i so fascinating to me!
@@TheGreatWar There exista several photos of von Ungern, do they really have to be exactly time accurate as you guys have used photos from different times in unrelated videos before? Would love a vid of The Baron, but you guys do great work either way!
I am obsessed with all of your content across all of your channels. I have learned so much more about the Great war and (spoiler alert for this channel) the Second World War..as well as the period in between. I am a patreon member but I wish there was more I could do!! You guys are amazing!! No offence to all other hosts…all are amazing…Indy is hands down my favourite.
"Two different committees with poorly defined responsibilities and instead of acting, they blame each other". Sounds like you were describing the US government for a minute there.
I love this channel, i have been trying to take in as much information about this time period as possible. This channel was key in sparking my interest. I was wondering if and when travel restrictions are eased would you at the Great War be putting together any trips to any of these locations? I personally have been particularly fascinated by the Gallipoli campaign and what happened to those men both during that campaign as well as them being sent to Europe to continue fighting. Thank you for all your hard work.
If you have watched The Phantom Menace, Queen Amidalas ornate dress and headwear are based on a holy/noble woman that the Bolsheviks killed. I can't remember her name.
Found her: Queen Consort Genepil of Mongolia. She was executed by Stalinist forces in 1938. People really arent enough aware of how evil the communists were. Too distracted by fairy tales about the Evil Moustached Austrian Painter man. Hatred of that man is practically a modern religion complete with Dogma.
@@ryanparker4996 Queen Genepil (1905-1938) of Mongolia may have served as the model for the fictional character Queen Amadalis. Genepil was executed by Stalinist forces in their repression of Mongolia in 1938.
Greetings from Tyumen oblast! Proud, that Americans do mention our sadly unknown uprising. We do have only one memorial in region BUT it's dedicated to Bolshevist killers, not peasants.(
A shame the peasants didn't succeed in freeing themselves. This is why access to modern firearms is inextricably tied to the liberty of a people. The only thing keeping any government truly in check is the Damocles of armed rebellion hanging over their head. Most governments no longer have to seriously consider this threat, and we now see what they do when free of it.
At that time the Soviets encouraged ordinary people to have arms (though they were of low quality or even home-made while the police had modern ones) and proceed to summary executions. Stalin had them controlled only in 1936. But even then the permit was easily granted if the guy was clearly a red as trained with other reds.
It was very foolish and short sighted to leave the farmer peasants with starvation rations. Who was going to farm the land the following year if the farmers starved to death?!
Same thing slowly happening in 2024; farmland sold to China, food shortages, supply chain disruptions, bird flu etc. Bottom line is “government” doesn’t care because their bunkers are stocked full. Save yourself.
Man if I hadn't stumbled across it I wouldn't have known about this video I think YT actually hide it from me. This must be so frustrating for you guys and I'm just angry about how evil they are. Keep your heads up gang doing great work
Such brilliant videos really well researched with excellent integration of primary documents and stories of the people. Love that once again the women were in the middle of the fray. Thanks Jesse you are a brilliant narrator, love listening to your voice and your retelling is very well organised
My perception about Russia civial war was terminated after white army had been defeated (Cauasus, Denikin). All description in this episode was never heard of in my knowledge. Much thank to Jesse's great work. By the way, a timeline perspective looks like Bolsheviks curshed this peasant's uprising before marching west to Poland, which was followed by miracle of Vistula. The NEP proposed by Lenin was a compromise--or he was forced to setp back temporary --for Russia was actual stayed in the ruin.
Not quite. The Bolsheviks did crush a major green peasant movement in early 1920 (the Tambov Rebellion), but this happened in 1921, a year later. It also happened further east, across the Ural region, not in the Tambov.
@@sand8777 до речі, саме тому і було так багато колабораціоністів в часи Великої вітчизняної. Звичайно, не можна повністю виправдовувати власовців і мельниковців, але їх можна зрозуміти. Люди не хотіли боротися за радянську владу, яка чинила голодомор, великий терор, колективізацію і т.д. Тож вона сама вина в їх існуванні, адже на фоні більшовиків навіть нацисти здавалися визволителями.
During the Middle Eastern Campaign I noticed that there were several colonial regiments under allenby like the British west Indies Regiment. Was Allenby accommodating of them or have a different view of soldiers from different countries or different races?
Hello how are you? I'm Brazilian, I really like your work involving the Russian Civil War, could you make a video talking about General Anatoly Pepelyaev's Resistance in Yakutia? I would love to see more about it. thanks
i know it was short lived but a video on the Bremen Soviet Republic would be fascinating. Its often forgotten and overlooked by the Bavarian Soviet Republic and Spartacist uprising for obvious reasons.
I have a conspiracy theory these commenters are just dedicated fans that want to boost the channel's comment engagement (I mean I wouldn't mind helping this awesome channel but I I don't think I could go as far as to make fake outrage). Either that or some people are just really dedicated with their preferred ideology lol
This is so heart breaking. It is so disconcerting that there are people who sincerely adhere to Marxist-lenist ideology. Even after time and after time it only created authoritarianism, human rights abuse, and bureaucratic nightmares. But what is so frustrating for me is that many people associate socialism with the totalitarianism of the ussr. the average democratic socialist, libertarian communist or anarchists beliefs are so far removed from the authoritarian state socialist nations. Personally as an anarchist I despise these people because historically marxistleninists, stalinists, communist party members, authoritarian socialists, tankies or whatever you want to call them, murdered and betrayed anarchists and libertarian socialists. Don't listen to these people. They down play the famines, the war crimes, the slavery, the rape and all the tyranny of the ussr, China, the dprk, and so on. These people don't want communism or socialism they want to replace the existing state with their own authoritarian state.
@@dgsf9444 well historically there have a been a couple different ways. But assuming we are referring to anarchism here and not libertarian marxism there are a few main characteristics. So some sort of council communism or what has worked for rojava is democratic confederalism or even something similar to the zapatistas in southern Mexico. This would mean that there would be councils that with representatives. Now this would not be like the us representatives system. They would be made up of actual worker and citizens and different from the soviets or marxistleninist states in that its not filled with elite party oligarchs. Its not a permanent job and they can be taken out right away if they do anything wrong. Outside of these councils everyone would be able to vote on any issue. But assuming many of the day to work would be boring the councils could operate on their own. And depending on the size of the area a lot of these could be used or we could also a federalist system with a bigger council. Again importantly these arent politicians they dont get relected, they dont have titles like senator or whatever. Everyone could participate if they wanted and for the more bureaucratic day to day the councils could function. But we already know this has and does work.
@@dgsf9444 We saw how great it was in Spain, when the Anarchists finally got power. They too murdered "bosses" and stole their property. Very democratic and all. They abolished money. Only to introduce work hour vouchers to exchange for goods. Which is essentially money, in a really primitive form (and devalues highly specialized jobs work, while paying the street sweeper the same). Sometimes they were generous, and didn't force peasants into collectives. But that doesn't make their "system" great. And of course the Anarchist idiots in Ukraine, who cut off Denikin's supply lines, when he marched on Moscow after routing the Reds. Essentially ensuring the defeat of the Whites, and their own destruction. And yet those clever people allied with the Commies again in Spain and many other places. They never learn.
@@aspie-anarchist9854 Democratic Socialism/Communism isn't achievable. Your policies are detrimental, they run contrary to human nature, and they will always lead to resentment, dissent and eventually resistance. Therefore you will always have to resort to force and eventually abolish democracy. The only way I can see how it can be achieved is a World like Star Trek, where there is plenty of everything in terms of cheap reliable energy that can be turned into food and everything else you need. Where people only work because they want to, not because they have to. Until then...
@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 argument ad human nature my favorite. What does that even mean? What human nature? What policies of mine lead to the detriment of democracy?
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This revolution and its aftermath was one of the greatest tragedies this world has ever seen; incredibly sad, the cruelty suffered in the name of "progress" and "fairness".
Poor citizens got electricity, medicine, science, rights, education, general QoL improvements, infrastructure, cultural and artistic breakthroughs, workplace democracy...
@@AnimalioPahazalli Funny thing, all of those things could have been achieved by lesser price without psychopaths in power, like in other countries. Not to mention most of Bolsheviks plans, have been stolen by them from Tsarist Russia, which was already planned to implement them.
@@AnimalioPahazalli everyone in the west has these things and of higher quality as well without ever needing to create a 1984esque hellhole, your argument is invalid.
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7:42 .. Why call these non-slavic indigenous people by the non-anglicized russian name? Why not just say Ostyaks and Samoyeds? Even using the indigenous names would be stupid. I'm of Czech descent. Imagine me speaking English and saying Češi instead of Czechs.
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With the new plans for next year will you finish off the Russian civil war in a video some time? You mentioned finishing off the situation in Ireland with one on the civil war and finishing off the Greco-Turkish conflict with one on that, but probably this conflict was the most impactful of them all. The fall of Vladivostok, the Yakutsk uprising you mentioned and the declaration of the USSR in 1922-23 are really the final gasps of the White movement and are all interconnected.
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Very nice coverage :) But the Bolsheviks "not taking seriously" is (I believe) a mis-statement. Rather because of their world view they simply did not understand what was going on because "peasants would never fight against true communism, only reactionary elements and Kulaks." (quotes are mine) This is what your reference means....at least imho.
wish you continuous success . A very beautiful and wonderful work that deserves admiration and all appreciation. Never stop.. It would be great if all your works are translated into Arabic. I wish you well and happiness. Thank you for your exceptional and distinguished effort in presenting this very beautiful work
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. One fact for certain!!! The treacherous/opportunist diabolical 😈 Stalin. Took full dictatorship ideology syndrome in 1924. And the rest is history.
I knew some old White Russian emigres, and knew best descendants of the family that ran the Pre-Amur Provisional Government in Vladivostok, which lasted until 1923, when they fled with the gold. One Japanese officer, Captain Hara, had to commit seppukku after giving these Russians weapons, against orders.
As an American I am absolutely ashamed that we police the world when its not wanted, but let abuses like this where help is being begged for as well as the Yemeni famine, Libyan slavers(Which we caused) go as 'not our business.'
The USA works for Zionists. The USSR was created by Zionists About 85% of the first Soviet government were part of God's chosen people. In 1948 gods chosen people moved to the middle east, and now they are expanding. The us is just the fall guy to take the blame for this mafia actions. The first Israeli government was literally a combination of terrorist groups. (Lehi, airgun, etc). Strange times.
@@ShadowSumac I want to hold the US accountable for its actions, not for those of the Soviets. But we did turn our backs on the White Russians when they pleaded for aid, yet went full in on people who wanted nothing to do with our aid under weaker pretenses. I want us to either put our hands where our principles are or keep them to ourselves.
@@booradley6832 You are confusing actions made at different times by different administrations. It makes as much sense as holding Russia accountable for crimes of Moskovia or Tsarist Russia.
Soviet counsel: You will provide us with coal. Peasants: But we have no coal mines and there is no coal in the ground. Soviet council: There will be no subversive talk and you will be punished for not providing the quota of coal.
The issue, the problem seems to be not always so much left or right, but authoritarianism vs. egalitarianism. Far left authoritarianism is hardly any kinder than right wing authoritarianism.
Maybe not kind, but more intelligent than juvenile leftism. Planned economy requires State Control, the bolsheviks understood that and knew that most people (illiterate peasants) were useless for the society they envisioned.
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Damn, had no idea there was a rebellion in western Siberia in 1921, let alone that it was the biggest one in the whole civil war 🤯
Was that a read? :P
@@LucidFL all the sources he used were Russian. Unless youve actively studied the Russian Civil War in detail, it'd be easy to overlook. No need to condescend, especially to viewers of this educational channel. We all come here to learn.
They were still doomed in 1922.
So very ironic, given that the kerensky ans later the Moscow Soviet moved Nicky and his family, to western Siberia, first to Tobolsk and then to "Red Ekaterinburg" because the peasants and workers there hated them so much, indeed where they finally were executed.
Woah General Thrax???
Fascinating video!
The Russian Civil War is generally understood - in the U.S. at least - to be a fight between the generically right vs left, but the conflicts involving the various agrarian socialist and anarchist factions against the Bolsheviks during the period illustrate how multifaceted things really were. And those episodes catch my interest the most! Awesome presentation!
Have you received your third jab comrade?
@@nightrunner3701 Still got no sense of taste or smell?
@@rbtclol Thats a small price to pay for avoiding goverment tyranny.
@@rbtclol Not worn a mask once.
Not socially distanced at all.
Obviously not partaking in the biggest pharmaceutical scam ever.
And I have felt and continue to feel absolutely fantastic throughout this whole stupid thing :o)
You get it. 👍🏽
And given that this is happening in Early 20th Century Russia, the phrase, "And then it got worse", is essentially the motto of the era.
Jesse Alexander, among the best, if not the best Presenter on You Tube today. His information is easy to digest and retain. His narrative is well thought out and arranged, Light years ahead of any of my College Professors.
What happened to The original narrator?
@@justinderosa6915 he now hosts the weekly episodes of World War 2 and TGH
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I'm a simple man, I see a video on the Russian Civil War, I press click...
It's definitely a fascinating subject!
A simple man wouldn't even be watching a video on the Russian Civil War.
@@Fairfax40DaysforLife Certainly not one with only "Fruit" for a "Face."
I think you just click, instead of pressing click…
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I liked the alternative closing reamrk more (see subtitles): "that wants a japanese-mexican-tsarist-bolsheviks bullet for its collection" it really captures the international but chaotic situation of post WW1 Russia and wars of the period in general.
In earlier Russian Civil War videos you analysed the Red and the White armies, with some coverage of other groups such as the Anarchist Blacks. But you also mentioned The Greens, who I recall operated to the east of the most of the conflict. Were the people in this video the Greens, or were they a different crowd?
yeah, these are the greens, generally that's a collective designation for various peasant uprisings. some of them we covered in other videos.
@@TheGreatWar Very cool of you to answer and specify. P.s. I like the new background, but please don't kill off the old wood and leather one. Tis' classy. Peace my history nerds.
@@TheGreatWar Thanks for clarifying things. Experts on the Russian Civil War probably hate it, but as someone with only a little knowledge of the subject, 'colour coding' the armies makes it slightly easier to understand... except for the war(s) in Central Asia which add an extra level of complexity to everything.
No, it's not like that, different bandit groups were called green, the purpose of which was robbery, they had no political ideas, no one equated peasant uprisings in Russia with the name green, green are ordinary bandits who robbed where there is an opportunity, usually individual villages, refugees, that is, those who could not protect themselves, became their victims.
Great video! In fact the Greens were peasants or soldiers, who deserted both the Red and the White army and hided themselves mostly in the forests, therefore they were called "The Greens". They had more in common with the Black army of Anarchists, such as Nestor Makhno and mostly didn't attack him or even they join his forces, as his army was mostly volunteerely, and their main revolt which they started was as against the politics of drafting to the Red or to the White army and huge amount of requisitions, especially surplus appropriation by the Red Army.
So the Bolshevic forces in Siberia were fighting against peasants with outdated rifles using bullets made in Japan meant originally meant for Mexico while Japan was occupying the far east of Russia.... magical times there were, indeed
Not only Japan. There was an invasion by England and France in the north, also Finland. Germany and Poland to the west. Japan and the United States in the east, as well as the Czechs. It's amazing how the Bolsheviks were able to cope with this. And it’s not clear why this is called a civil war. This is a foreign invasion and collaborators.
@@ruthlesstruth8639 Well, the Bolsheviks were able to cope with it because the foreign invasions were fairly small and both the US and the UK lost interest rather quickly and left. Also: The invasion in the west by the germans ended in 1918 when the US and UK forced Germany to give back the territory to the Soviets, the Soviets didn't have to cope with that. Also: Poland didn't invade the Soviet Union but the Soviets tried to overrun Poland and possibly push further into a defenseless Germany but were stopped by the Poles at the Vistula. And I fail to see how it's not a Civil War if the main conflicts are between the Soviets and various Russian factions, most notably the Whites but also peasants.
Yeah chum! 😃 Not speaking of the Chezhoslovakian corps whose forces were from Czechs soldiers-previosly the citizens and subjects of the Austria-Hungarian Empire who deserted to Russian army for sympathy for the slavic people and they became Czech legion, and after the Revolution it was decided to give and transport them to France as their new legislated government by the Transsiberian railway to the Pacific Ocean, then to the USA and at last to Europe as it was very dangerous to transport them to the West in order not to be captured and by Germany and after the ethnic fighting with the Hungarian deserters who stuck in another train and wanted to join the Red Army and an attempt of the Bolsheviks to disarm them they made a revolt and helped White Army to make power in Siberia. You don't say...)
@@ruthlesstruth8639 Yeah, and half of the nation that was fighting against commies on their own were also all collaborators and traitors, comrade?
@@ShadowSumac Not half at all. There were few of them. Yes, they were collaborationists. Weapons, equipment, they all received from foreign governments that invaded Russian territory to plunder and kill
This is very interesting. Usually accounts of russian civil war end with defeat of admiral Alexander Kolchak, or with Kronstand rebellion being last hurrah of the counter-revolution (one document even called fall of Kronstad as "the last flame of largest revolution of our time"). This is not unlike how French revolution ends in death of Robespierre, despite that it went on 5 years after it.
kronstadt wasnot part of the 'counter-revolution' tho
It would make it even more complicated for the Bolsheviks if there was war going against Polish and Ukrainian forces in the west at the same time.
As a side note. 100 hundred years ago on September the 15th 1921 General Ungern-Sternberg was executed at the Mashtakov house in Novosibirsk. Damn i was so looking forward to a full video dedicated to the baron! but anyway Russian Civil war i so fascinating to me!
Sadly there is one photo of the Baron and that's about it. impossible to make a video on his exploits. he was on our list for sure.
@@TheGreatWar There exista several photos of von Ungern, do they really have to be exactly time accurate as you guys have used photos from different times in unrelated videos before?
Would love a vid of The Baron, but you guys do great work either way!
@@TheGreatWar Perhaps you need to have some "audio only" episodes in the same way that Mark Felton does with his War Stories channel?
I am obsessed with all of your content across all of your channels. I have learned so much more about the Great war and (spoiler alert for this channel) the Second World War..as well as the period in between. I am a patreon member but I wish there was more I could do!! You guys are amazing!! No offence to all other hosts…all are amazing…Indy is hands down my favourite.
thanks Kevin, watching and supporting is really helpful and we appreciate comments like yours of course too
Thank you for another great, informative video covering a relatively ignored/forgotten period of history.
"Two different committees with poorly defined responsibilities and instead of acting, they blame each other".
Sounds like you were describing the US government for a minute there.
No, just party politics in general.
@@AgendaFiles Anarchists are totally guilty of that as well - even tho barely any will admit that.
Great video. It's always nice to know the history of other countries Civil Wars.
Now that's an uprising.
Ever heard of the Tambov Rebellion ? That was also a pretty big uprising.
What brave people, they fought hard for freedom even though they lost eventually
Those russians that fought for freedom were the true russians
@@oskary2833 yes
Very impressive research and illustrative presentation. Makes me regain faith in the internet and mankind as such!
I love this channel, i have been trying to take in as much information about this time period as possible. This channel was key in sparking my interest. I was wondering if and when travel restrictions are eased would you at the Great War be putting together any trips to any of these locations? I personally have been particularly fascinated by the Gallipoli campaign and what happened to those men both during that campaign as well as them being sent to Europe to continue fighting. Thank you for all your hard work.
Interesting how the people's army was oppressing the people
Ain't always the case?
Everytime it is something including word "people's" it is most likely as anti-people as possible.
@@ShadowSumac yes
@@ShadowSumac yep double speak at its best. But hey they fall for it every time
@@ShadowSumac Or Democratic, Liberation, etc.
Wow this was the largest anti communist rebellion yet I never heard of it once
If you have watched The Phantom Menace, Queen Amidalas ornate dress and headwear are based on a holy/noble woman that the Bolsheviks killed. I can't remember her name.
Found her: Queen Consort Genepil of Mongolia. She was executed by Stalinist forces in 1938. People really arent enough aware of how evil the communists were. Too distracted by fairy tales about the Evil Moustached Austrian Painter man. Hatred of that man is practically a modern religion complete with Dogma.
@@ryanparker4996 never knew that
@@oskary2833 now you do chief 🤠
@@ryanparker4996 Queen Genepil (1905-1938) of Mongolia may have served as the model for the fictional character Queen Amadalis. Genepil was executed by Stalinist forces in their repression of Mongolia in 1938.
I see russian civil war content, i immediately click hello!
Здравствуйте. Сделайте, пожалуйста, русские субтитры ко всем видео. Очень интересно. Очень жаль, что нет русских субтитров.
Please, can you make russian subtitles for all your videos. Pity there are no russian subtitles. А то вдруг русский язык плохо знают))
@@BorisOFF08 спасибо, но авторы видимо и так не прочтут и эдак
@@user-qp9uu2ih5f да и ладно есть хорошие книги на тему гражданской войны и причём на русском
That is a great idea.
@@BorisOFF08 согласен, но мне как учителю истории такие ролики нужны, чтобы детям рекомендовать или показывать. К книгам труднее приобщить.
This great presentation is why I'm subscribed to The Great War !! Thank you for illuminating this part of history, Jesse. (:
If they had only won…
It's a shame, we can only dream of a thousand-year reich.
Greetings from Tyumen oblast! Proud, that Americans do mention our sadly unknown uprising. We do have only one memorial in region BUT it's dedicated to Bolshevist killers, not peasants.(
thanks and greetings from Berlin
Ну так памятники не только в вашей области. Белогвардейским фашистам тоже памятники есть.
A shame the peasants didn't succeed in freeing themselves. This is why access to modern firearms is inextricably tied to the liberty of a people. The only thing keeping any government truly in check is the Damocles of armed rebellion hanging over their head. Most governments no longer have to seriously consider this threat, and we now see what they do when free of it.
At that time the Soviets encouraged ordinary people to have arms (though they were of low quality or even home-made while the police had modern ones) and proceed to summary executions. Stalin had them controlled only in 1936. But even then the permit was easily granted if the guy was clearly a red as trained with other reds.
Which is why the democrat scum in the USA keeps pushing gun control like the scum they are
It was very foolish and short sighted to leave the farmer peasants with starvation rations. Who was going to farm the land the following year if the farmers starved to death?!
Same thing slowly happening in 2024; farmland sold to China, food shortages, supply chain disruptions, bird flu etc. Bottom line is “government” doesn’t care because their bunkers are stocked full. Save yourself.
Here's one I wasn't aware of, not sure how I managed to overlook. Thank you
Man if I hadn't stumbled across it I wouldn't have known about this video I think YT actually hide it from me. This must be so frustrating for you guys and I'm just angry about how evil they are. Keep your heads up gang doing great work
figuring out the algorithm is the best part of our job /s
Such brilliant videos really well researched with excellent integration of primary documents and stories of the people. Love that once again the women were in the middle of the fray. Thanks Jesse you are a brilliant narrator, love listening to your voice and your retelling is very well organised
Thanks!
Why are you not making dvd's this is better than any history book.
One of the best youtube channels 👌
My perception about Russia civial war was terminated after white army had been defeated (Cauasus, Denikin). All description in this episode was never heard of in my knowledge. Much thank to Jesse's great work. By the way, a timeline perspective looks like Bolsheviks curshed this peasant's uprising before marching west to Poland, which was followed by miracle of Vistula. The NEP proposed by Lenin was a compromise--or he was forced to setp back temporary --for Russia was actual stayed in the ruin.
Not quite. The Bolsheviks did crush a major green peasant movement in early 1920 (the Tambov Rebellion), but this happened in 1921, a year later. It also happened further east, across the Ural region, not in the Tambov.
@@extrahistory8956 Thank you very much for your reply and comment!
Wow I knew the Bolsheviks were like this but its always staggering how clear the evidence is.
@@sand8777 до речі, саме тому і було так багато колабораціоністів в часи Великої вітчизняної. Звичайно, не можна повністю виправдовувати власовців і мельниковців, але їх можна зрозуміти. Люди не хотіли боротися за радянську владу, яка чинила голодомор, великий терор, колективізацію і т.д. Тож вона сама вина в їх існуванні, адже на фоні більшовиків навіть нацисти здавалися визволителями.
CZcams should reward novel contents like this.
Приятно слышать, что говорят правду
I was sure this video was about the Tambow Rebellion, didn't know the magnitude of this one!
Congratulations!!
Me too. I also would have thought the Tambov Revolt qualified.
During the Middle Eastern Campaign I noticed that there were several colonial regiments under allenby like the British west Indies Regiment. Was Allenby accommodating of them or have a different view of soldiers from different countries or different races?
8:42 As every Hunt: Showdown player could have told you:
Gotta have 'em Mosin-Nagants!
Hello how are you? I'm Brazilian, I really like your work involving the Russian Civil War, could you make a video talking about General Anatoly Pepelyaev's Resistance in Yakutia? I would love to see more about it. thanks
Brilliant as usual.
i know it was short lived but a video on the Bremen Soviet Republic would be fascinating. Its often forgotten and overlooked by the Bavarian Soviet Republic and Spartacist uprising for obvious reasons.
Грустно что в то время победила Красная Армия
Every times there is a video about the Russian Civil war or Soviet related topic
The Comment section just turn into a war zone
I have a conspiracy theory these commenters are just dedicated fans that want to boost the channel's comment engagement (I mean I wouldn't mind helping this awesome channel but I I don't think I could go as far as to make fake outrage). Either that or some people are just really dedicated with their preferred ideology lol
@@SirFaceFone cool theory but pretty sure it's just that last part.
You should do a video on who funded the Reds and why they might do such a thing during the Russian civil war
No one really funded them, but they did get most of their support from the built-up urban areas, something that none of their major enemies boasted.
Thanks for covering a most obscure episode of the early USSR (not anymore the Revolution: October was Thermidor).
This is so heart breaking. It is so disconcerting that there are people who sincerely adhere to Marxist-lenist ideology. Even after time and after time it only created authoritarianism, human rights abuse, and bureaucratic nightmares. But what is so frustrating for me is that many people associate socialism with the totalitarianism of the ussr. the average democratic socialist, libertarian communist or anarchists beliefs are so far removed from the authoritarian state socialist nations. Personally as an anarchist I despise these people because historically marxistleninists, stalinists, communist party members, authoritarian socialists, tankies or whatever you want to call them, murdered and betrayed anarchists and libertarian socialists. Don't listen to these people. They down play the famines, the war crimes, the slavery, the rape and all the tyranny of the ussr, China, the dprk, and so on. These people don't want communism or socialism they want to replace the existing state with their own authoritarian state.
How will libertarian socialism work?
@@dgsf9444 well historically there have a been a couple different ways. But assuming we are referring to anarchism here and not libertarian marxism there are a few main characteristics. So some sort of council communism or what has worked for rojava is democratic confederalism or even something similar to the zapatistas in southern Mexico. This would mean that there would be councils that with representatives. Now this would not be like the us representatives system. They would be made up of actual worker and citizens and different from the soviets or marxistleninist states in that its not filled with elite party oligarchs. Its not a permanent job and they can be taken out right away if they do anything wrong. Outside of these councils everyone would be able to vote on any issue. But assuming many of the day to work would be boring the councils could operate on their own. And depending on the size of the area a lot of these could be used or we could also a federalist system with a bigger council. Again importantly these arent politicians they dont get relected, they dont have titles like senator or whatever. Everyone could participate if they wanted and for the more bureaucratic day to day the councils could function. But we already know this has and does work.
@@dgsf9444 We saw how great it was in Spain, when the Anarchists finally got power. They too murdered "bosses" and stole their property. Very democratic and all. They abolished money. Only to introduce work hour vouchers to exchange for goods. Which is essentially money, in a really primitive form (and devalues highly specialized jobs work, while paying the street sweeper the same).
Sometimes they were generous, and didn't force peasants into collectives. But that doesn't make their "system" great.
And of course the Anarchist idiots in Ukraine, who cut off Denikin's supply lines, when he marched on Moscow after routing the Reds. Essentially ensuring the defeat of the Whites, and their own destruction.
And yet those clever people allied with the Commies again in Spain and many other places. They never learn.
@@aspie-anarchist9854 Democratic Socialism/Communism isn't achievable. Your policies are detrimental, they run contrary to human nature, and they will always lead to resentment, dissent and eventually resistance.
Therefore you will always have to resort to force and eventually abolish democracy.
The only way I can see how it can be achieved is a World like Star Trek, where there is plenty of everything in terms of cheap reliable energy that can be turned into food and everything else you need. Where people only work because they want to, not because they have to.
Until then...
@@youtubemodsaresnowflakelef7692 argument ad human nature my favorite. What does that even mean? What human nature? What policies of mine lead to the detriment of democracy?
Ah the Russian Civil War aka the most confusing and weirdest time of Russia
Wow very interesting, I had never even heard of this rebellion
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I have a question about the death dates for the soldiers - would their death dates be from when the bodies were found/retrieved?
Man I just find the Russian Civil War so interesting with so many factions and all
"Down with Lenin and horse meat. Give us the Tsar and pork"
This revolution and its aftermath was one of the greatest tragedies this world has ever seen; incredibly sad, the cruelty suffered in the name of "progress" and "fairness".
Poor citizens got electricity, medicine, science, rights, education, general QoL improvements, infrastructure, cultural and artistic breakthroughs, workplace democracy...
@@AnimalioPahazalli Funny thing, all of those things could have been achieved by lesser price without psychopaths in power, like in other countries.
Not to mention most of Bolsheviks plans, have been stolen by them from Tsarist Russia, which was already planned to implement them.
@@AnimalioPahazalli everyone in the west has these things and of higher quality as well without ever needing to create a 1984esque hellhole, your argument is invalid.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
This video is excellent!!
Commenting for the algorithm.
13:00 “Soviets without Communists” ?
I had a chuckle there too. Replying to feed the algorithm.
It’s an interesting concept
'Soviet' just means 'council,' no?
Soviets are just a form of council organization
Communism is Judaism. L o l
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The sheep freezing because somebody in another city ordered wool is an great evidence that people closer to the action should make decisions.
Central planning never works. Either does communism.
They did it on purpose.
@@myaccount__7269 You are probably right. Maybe, sometime seeming incompetence are sinister planned actions.
"take what you need and leave the rest, just don't take the very best.."
7:42 .. Why call these non-slavic indigenous people by the non-anglicized russian name? Why not just say Ostyaks and Samoyeds? Even using the indigenous names would be stupid. I'm of Czech descent. Imagine me speaking English and saying Češi instead of Czechs.
why not stay with one proper noun?
@@jonathanblanchard6480 Different languages have different words for the same thing.
No, I won't call Saudi Arabia by its arabic name.
They are proper nouns, so maybe stay with one name...look what happened to he and she.
Great Video
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Great episode!
Excellent and important piece on an unknown but noble piece of history. Thank you!
"For the people"...
With the new plans for next year will you finish off the Russian civil war in a video some time? You mentioned finishing off the situation in Ireland with one on the civil war and finishing off the Greco-Turkish conflict with one on that, but probably this conflict was the most impactful of them all. The fall of Vladivostok, the Yakutsk uprising you mentioned and the declaration of the USSR in 1922-23 are really the final gasps of the White movement and are all interconnected.
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This was the Tambov rebellion? Or this is a separate uprising? I heard before that Tambov was the largest peasant revolt.
Tambov was another uprising, we also did a video about that. This one was larger.
@@jessealexander2695 thank you for the reply
Very nice coverage :) But the Bolsheviks "not taking seriously" is (I believe) a mis-statement. Rather because of their world view they simply did not understand what was going on because "peasants would never fight against true communism, only reactionary elements and Kulaks." (quotes are mine) This is what your reference means....at least imho.
Thanks!
What is a “peasant’s chief?” A land captain, a kulak appointed by a noble landlord.
Military Officer:
"We are here to take all of their food and materials, and for some reason they are confusing this with theft."
Can Siberia vote for independence in 1922, to avoid sanctions?
I am from Tyumen!
Tobacco requisition in West Siberia?
There was probably that one Russian tank driver yelling URA URAAAA
What happened to those Rebels that went to China?
They joined the Japanese and bombed Pearl Harbour.
Thanks for exposing this completely neglected part of history
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Russian subtitles we need)))
This is what happens when city folks try telling farmers how to farm.....
Happends in eu countries extensivel6
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. One fact for certain!!! The treacherous/opportunist diabolical 😈 Stalin. Took full dictatorship ideology syndrome in 1924. And the rest is history.
That is so central planning. Take the wool right before winter because we need it now. No thought as to what happens to the sheep.
An armored train is enroute
Requisitioning wool in the fall so the sheep freeze to death is the most USSR thing ever.
It's almost as bad as not leaving any seed grain for the following season's planting.
That's the dim-witted short-sighted stupidity of communism. Never seeing the forest for the trees.
I knew some old White Russian emigres, and knew best descendants of the family that ran the Pre-Amur Provisional Government in Vladivostok, which lasted until 1923, when they fled with the gold. One Japanese officer, Captain Hara, had to commit seppukku after giving these Russians weapons, against orders.
This uprising strike so much fear that just saying that you want to create the siberian state earn you a free voyage to prison
( might be wrong tho )
As an American I am absolutely ashamed that we police the world when its not wanted, but let abuses like this where help is being begged for as well as the Yemeni famine, Libyan slavers(Which we caused) go as 'not our business.'
You want to hold US accountable for the events in Russia in 1921?
The USA works for Zionists.
The USSR was created by Zionists
About 85% of the first Soviet government were part of God's chosen people.
In 1948 gods chosen people moved to the middle east, and now they are expanding.
The us is just the fall guy to take the blame for this mafia actions.
The first Israeli government was literally a combination of terrorist groups. (Lehi, airgun, etc).
Strange times.
@@ShadowSumac
I want to hold the US accountable for its actions, not for those of the Soviets. But we did turn our backs on the White Russians when they pleaded for aid, yet went full in on people who wanted nothing to do with our aid under weaker pretenses.
I want us to either put our hands where our principles are or keep them to ourselves.
@@booradley6832 You are confusing actions made at different times by different administrations.
It makes as much sense as holding Russia accountable for crimes of Moskovia or Tsarist Russia.
No, i'm really not.
Soviet counsel: You will provide us with coal.
Peasants: But we have no coal mines and there is no coal in the ground.
Soviet council: There will be no subversive talk and you will be punished for not providing the quota of coal.
You spend too much time role-playing TA.
History one never hears in schools.
And there's gone hope to overthrow the train of governance which ended up terrorizing the whole world to this day.
aww sweet a manmade famine
I hoped you would have done the Vlora war
Goddamn Commies stealing my food!
The peasants are revolting!
Russian high command: these illiterates do not know the success rate of these things.
You guys didn't make a video about Brazil in world war one.
I got a Mosin nagant just waiting to play with the Communits in the States.
"Hello, FBI? Yeah, about that watchlist..."
Oh look, the rare internet badass.... 😒
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The issue, the problem seems to be not always so much left or right, but authoritarianism vs. egalitarianism. Far left authoritarianism is hardly any kinder than right wing authoritarianism.
Maybe not kind, but more intelligent than juvenile leftism. Planned economy requires State Control, the bolsheviks understood that and knew that most people (illiterate peasants) were useless for the society they envisioned.