Great machine, worth every penny. Was choosing between Jura E8 and Delonghi primadonna soul and choose jura because of Swiss made high quality components, P.E.P, grinder and other tech jura offers and on the end it was way cheaper than primadonna soul.
@@laigool2000 The machines J and above are still Swiss made. I have heard the Portugal machines actually have less issues. That might be because of less fancy features? 🤷♀
I have the new E8 the bean hopper is monitored and you get an alarm/ message. The water does not come out the spout on the right for hot water. The hot water comes out the spout behind the middle coffee dispensers. The Americano hot water comes out the hot water spout. The drinks shown on the right during the video does not show the Americano. I think the North American version has Americano. I did find it useful to place the names on the drinks as a learning . The name option is one of the settings. If you use the milk foam option to make hot chocolate from cold milk it will be luke warm. The coffee is hot but not the milk foam.
Not sure I can judge “worth it” . We agreed that it would make a nice wedding anniversary gift. After a weeks worth. We like the taste of all the different drinks. The taste is consistent from drink to drink. We like the buttons vs the touch screen very tactile feel. I use the hot water setting to preheat my cup and if I want a milk drink I preheat the milk to about 10-11 deg C. The warmer starting temp does not cool down the drink. The grinder is quite and fast. We use the milk foam setting with warm water to flush the milk system each day. We use the milk cleaning tablets 1 a week. Go to ECS and give it a try.
On the one hand I really like the screen of the S8, and its adjustable frothier, and being able to save two different settings for the same type of coffee. On the other hand, the E8 has the cortado and extra beverages and extra shots, and seems to be quiter. Do you know when was the S8 updated last and when may it be potentially updated again in the future? I'd love to have an S8 with the extra drink options offered by the new E8. I wonder if it's worth waiting for a potential new S8 model. Thanks!
Comprehensive and informative reviews as always! Thank you, ECS. The J8 and the S8 offer on-screen direction regarding proper grind adjustment (based on the drink selection). Does this model also offer guidance for the grind setting based on the drink selection? If I missed it in the video, I apologize.
I have the E8 that is about 3 years old. The filter which the machines signals is change almost monthly at the present cost of $19 (started out at $15). Thats almost a yearly cost of $228. I don’t understand why there are no off market filters for the Jura E8 like Jura’s other machines.
Good question. And really one for Jura. But I can tell you that using their filters and systems will ensure the brewer lasts...I have clients that have had them for 15 years.
@@ecscoffeeinc once again, the additional monthly cost needs to be communicated to customers. There are excellent coffee machines that dont require a $19 monthly maintenance cost.
I'm kicking myself for buying this machine. I hate the lack of adjustments for milk foam. I thought I could buy the pro milk foamer attachment but unfortunately it is not compatible. So much froth in every milk drink and half a cup of froth left when you actually finish drinking the liquid! As someone else said, the water filters are expensive. I often wonder if it would be cheaper to not use them and just descale. Mine also seems to have a backwards sensor on the drip tray and grounds tray, telling me to empty the wrong one needed. Jura gave me a long winded response to this that doesn't actually solve the problem. I wish I had of gone with the S8 just for the milk adjustment control.
No. I have the milk container in my fridge. When I want a milk based drink I know how many seconds to heat the milk up before using. I heat the milk to about 10-12 deg C vs 3 in my fridge. I get almost 10 deg hotter foam so my coffee is still hot. I also use the hot water function to preheat the cup.
what's the maximum bypass amount (of coffee in grams). are there any other limitations to the bypass (what drinks you can make, what size, etc?) my husband can only drink decaf so he'll have to use the bypass all the time so I'd like all the info on that, ty!
My wife drinks decaf, so I put in decaf beans in the amount for a decaf drink then put amount (1 scoop) of caf beans for my drink. I have a gaggia machine and our method works well.
Thank you so much for a very quick response. I am waiting for my Jura E8 delivery☺️ Im a bit confused. I saw Jura E8 has these features: espresso x 2 ( so dies this means it will give me 32 g of espresso if I choose this feature?) and how is it different from espresso doppio? (Is this doppio will give me 32g of espresso too?) considering both will be on the strongest setting of beans if applicable
Hey thanks for your reviews. Ive been going through a lot of your videos and i have this one question, how is juras doppio different from delonghi's? Thanks 😊
Just got my E8 delivered yesterday. Love the flat white and cappucino😊. I am using datk roast beans. Would you recommend the grind level to the finest or medium coarse? And is the finest option for grinder the left most ? And the coarse grind option to the right?
Usually the setting from the manufacturer is ok. Finest is to the left. Be careful with dark beans. If they are oily (wet looking) they may cause grinder issues.
We bought the E8 2 months ago & have loved it. All of a sudden the milk brother doesn't work. It just shoots out a lot of steam. I took it apart & cleaned it per another CZcams, but still not better. any suggestions?
All are great. I like Jura for the Aesthetic and overall it is my choice. But you really cant go wrong. The budget likely puts Jura at the top end with Saeco....tough call!
Can you say more about the updated milk cleaning system. The S8 looks to have been upgraded since this video and they now have the same grinder but it didn’t get the updated milk cleaning system or intelligent preheating, 3D brewing and Jura cockpit. Seems crazy the more expensive machine didn’t get all the updates. And no extra shot function 😡. I’m keen to know how the milk cleaning systems differ in real use and perhaps the intelligent preheating as well. The E8 also lists J.O.E & Wifi. S8 only J.O.E. What’s the difference, what is the wifi specifically adding. Are these machines firmware updatable ? Since some functions like the drink selections are primarily software driven.
Great questions. You are correct S8 did not get the updated milk. We expect a new version coming soon. I actually prefer the old S8 milk system vs the E8, as it give you more control. Best for you to see them side by side. \
Great video. I also own Jura E8 (eb). I would like to buy smart connect, but confused which technology I should pick Bluetooth or WiFi. Can you please guide me which I should pick? It that possible to make firmware upgrade with smart connect?
Interesting. I just went and had a look at our floor model from the demo. Americano is in the main menu. It could be a country feature but I would be surprised so I would reach out to the person you bought it from or Jura directly
How do I get all the coffee selections on my screen? I don't see American displayed on my TFT screen. Just appear to have a small selection of coffees. Is their an additional menu? Thanks.
Plastic with chrome finish. We have similar on other units in our showroom. Used daily and the chrome facade has held up well as it is rarely touched. The E8 does have a cheaper drip tray cover though which is plastic. That is likely not going to do as well over time. Wish they had kept it metal.
@@ecscoffeeinc We just returned the Saeco Xelsis. I loved several things about it but the big issue was drink temperature (not hot enough). For a $2000.00 machine, this shouldn't be an issue! I've heard this is an issue with many of the auto expresso makers... is this true?
@@johnelliott5365 yep and it makes sense if you think about it. At the coffee shop or with a steam wand you control the amount of time the steam is in the milk. So you can technically burn the milk if you want. With superautomatic machines it is more determined. Some have milk temp adjustments...Jura for example. Look for those...or the Breville Oracle. A bit more work but hotter milk
@@ecscoffeeinc totally understandable. Lol. OK, so another question, what's the big difference between z8 and z10? And is it worth the extra $$$ compared to the s8?
@@raashidahpatel6466 so Z8 is no longer made... honestly I didn't see the value on the Z10 abd thought it was a but gimmicky...cold brew etc. But they sell quite well. The customization is much improved and the cold brew option is there if you want it. S8 IA enough in my opinion...but go somewhere to see them side by side.
@@ecscoffeeinc ok. So where I am on the coastline of South Africa, there aren't actually any retailers of the machine, I gotta order it online. I think I'll go for the S8 as originally planned. Thank you for all the assistance and replies. Definitely helped a ton. Thanx
i really want to buy this machine, but ive read that the milk doesn't get hot enough resulting in a lukewarm latte? My husband mostly drinks americanos so that feature is really appealing!
@@teamls9533 Mine also does not have the adjustable frothier. But it's fine, still makes amazing drink and looks great in our kitchen (as it should for $2500 USD).
Great machine, worth every penny. Was choosing between Jura E8 and Delonghi primadonna soul and choose jura because of Swiss made high quality components, P.E.P, grinder and other tech jura offers and on the end it was way cheaper than primadonna soul.
Mine is not made Swiss made, manufactured in Portugal .
@@Nostromo_1 they are all made in portugal
@@laigool2000 The machines J and above are still Swiss made. I have heard the Portugal machines actually have less issues. That might be because of less fancy features? 🤷♀
I have the new E8 the bean hopper is monitored and you get an alarm/ message. The water does not come out the spout on the right for hot water. The hot water comes out the spout behind the middle coffee dispensers. The Americano hot water comes out the hot water spout. The drinks shown on the right during the video does not show the Americano. I think the North American version has Americano. I did find it useful to place the names on the drinks as a learning . The name option is one of the settings. If you use the milk foam option to make hot chocolate from cold milk it will be luke warm. The coffee is hot but not the milk foam.
Is it worth the money? I'm considering buying one. In general the reviews are pretty great but once and a while there's someone complaining about it.
Not sure I can judge “worth it” . We agreed that it would make a nice wedding anniversary gift. After a weeks worth. We like the taste of all the different drinks. The taste is consistent from drink to drink. We like the buttons vs the touch screen very tactile feel. I use the hot water setting to preheat my cup and if I want a milk drink I preheat the milk to about 10-11 deg C. The warmer starting temp does not cool down the drink. The grinder is quite and fast. We use the milk foam setting with warm water to flush the milk system each day. We use the milk cleaning tablets 1 a week. Go to ECS and give it a try.
@@waltczekurlon4603 Alright. Thank you. I'm pretty sure i'll give it a try.
can u use the app in this machine? it include the bluetooth device?
@@jorgepaderna9749 yes you can use the Bluetooth and the app on the E8
On the one hand I really like the screen of the S8, and its adjustable frothier, and being able to save two different settings for the same type of coffee.
On the other hand, the E8 has the cortado and extra beverages and extra shots, and seems to be quiter.
Do you know when was the S8 updated last and when may it be potentially updated again in the future? I'd love to have an S8 with the extra drink options offered by the new E8. I wonder if it's worth waiting for a potential new S8 model. Thanks!
No news on the S8 upgrade. It is now two or three years old so maybe in a year but that is just a guess.
Comprehensive and informative reviews as always! Thank you, ECS. The J8 and the S8 offer on-screen direction regarding proper grind adjustment (based on the drink selection). Does this model also offer guidance for the grind setting based on the drink selection? If I missed it in the video, I apologize.
Hi! The S8 (at least the one available in NA now) does not offer the on screen grind adjustments, and this E8 won't either :)
Thank you very much!@@ecscoffeeinc
I’ve noticed the extraction time being around 18 - 20 seconds using the lowest grind setting. I feel like that is a bit low.
Foam looks excellent.
I have the E8 that is about 3 years old. The filter which the machines signals is change almost monthly at the present cost of $19 (started out at $15). Thats almost a yearly cost of $228. I don’t understand why there are no off market filters for the Jura E8 like Jura’s other machines.
Good question. And really one for Jura. But I can tell you that using their filters and systems will ensure the brewer lasts...I have clients that have had them for 15 years.
@@ecscoffeeinc once again, the additional monthly cost needs to be communicated to customers. There are excellent coffee machines that dont require a $19 monthly maintenance cost.
What if I use the filtered water that comes out of my refrigerator door? Will that eliminate my need to buy a filter every month?
@@jeholloway2 Nope. Thats what we use and within 30 to 40 days the machine is requesting a filter replacement.
You can use it without a filter. I am using mine without a filter and using filtered water.
The filters are very expensive.
I'm kicking myself for buying this machine. I hate the lack of adjustments for milk foam. I thought I could buy the pro milk foamer attachment but unfortunately it is not compatible. So much froth in every milk drink and half a cup of froth left when you actually finish drinking the liquid! As someone else said, the water filters are expensive. I often wonder if it would be cheaper to not use them and just descale. Mine also seems to have a backwards sensor on the drip tray and grounds tray, telling me to empty the wrong one needed. Jura gave me a long winded response to this that doesn't actually solve the problem. I wish I had of gone with the S8 just for the milk adjustment control.
Descaling is cheaper. Wouldn't the flat white feature take car of the foam?
You would like that the flat white option would work, but it only gives one option of milk no matter the drink choice😭
Just got my new E8 Chrome!! Love it! My question is, can you set the temperature on the milk-based drinks?
No.
I have the milk container in my fridge. When I want a milk based drink I know how many seconds to heat the milk up before using. I heat the milk to about 10-12 deg C vs 3 in my fridge. I get almost 10 deg hotter foam so my coffee is still hot. I also use the hot water function to preheat the cup.
@@waltczekurlon4603 is it iOS device and one
@@jwalkinshaw Not yet.
@@waltczekurlon4603 so you pre-heat the milk before you use it on E8, correct? You pre-heat it on stove?
what's the maximum bypass amount (of coffee in grams). are there any other limitations to the bypass (what drinks you can make, what size, etc?) my husband can only drink decaf so he'll have to use the bypass all the time so I'd like all the info on that, ty!
The actual brew unit can hold up to 16g, everything else is just a waste. No limitations on any drink at all
@@ecscoffeeinc so the bypass doser can use up to 16 grams of coffee in a single drink?
My wife drinks decaf, so I put in decaf beans in the amount for a decaf drink then put amount (1 scoop) of caf beans for my drink. I have a gaggia machine and our method works well.
Thank you so much for a very quick response. I am waiting for my Jura E8 delivery☺️ Im a bit confused. I saw Jura E8 has these features: espresso x 2 ( so dies this means it will give me 32 g of espresso if I choose this feature?) and how is it different from espresso doppio? (Is this doppio will give me 32g of espresso too?) considering both will be on the strongest setting of beans if applicable
Hi did you find out the answer ? I’m interested to know
Hey thanks for your reviews. Ive been going through a lot of your videos and i have this one question, how is juras doppio different from delonghi's? Thanks 😊
Jura will grind more!
Just got my E8 delivered yesterday. Love the flat white and cappucino😊. I am using datk roast beans. Would you recommend the grind level to the finest or medium coarse? And is the finest option for grinder the left most ? And the coarse grind option to the right?
Usually the setting from the manufacturer is ok. Finest is to the left. Be careful with dark beans. If they are oily (wet looking) they may cause grinder issues.
We bought the E8 2 months ago & have loved it. All of a sudden the milk brother doesn't work. It just shoots out a lot of steam. I took it apart & cleaned it per another CZcams, but still not better. any suggestions?
Hmmm. it will be warranty. Try filling a container with water and running that through. It sounds like it might still be clogged.
I'm torn between the Jura E8, Delonghi Dinamica Plus and Saeco Xelsis... all of them seem great.
All are great. I like Jura for the Aesthetic and overall it is my choice. But you really cant go wrong. The budget likely puts Jura at the top end with Saeco....tough call!
Hello, Yesterday I have bought this wonderfull machine and I am wondering where I can find the cup counter. Can you help me please? Best regards
Hi Rick. There does not seem to be a cup counter on the E8.
a lot of foam can it do hot milk so you don't get so much foam
Can you say more about the updated milk cleaning system. The S8 looks to have been upgraded since this video and they now have the same grinder but it didn’t get the updated milk cleaning system or intelligent preheating, 3D brewing and Jura cockpit. Seems crazy the more expensive machine didn’t get all the updates. And no extra shot function 😡. I’m keen to know how the milk cleaning systems differ in real use and perhaps the intelligent preheating as well. The E8 also lists J.O.E & Wifi. S8 only J.O.E. What’s the difference, what is the wifi specifically adding.
Are these machines firmware updatable ? Since some functions like the drink selections are primarily software driven.
Great questions. You are correct S8 did not get the updated milk. We expect a new version coming soon. I actually prefer the old S8 milk system vs the E8, as it give you more control. Best for you to see them side by side. \
Great video. I also own Jura E8 (eb). I would like to buy smart connect, but confused which technology I should pick Bluetooth or WiFi. Can you please guide me which I should pick? It that possible to make firmware upgrade with smart connect?
We would recommend the Wifi connect! You will be able to connect more devices at once :)
How do you "steam" milk from the E8, rather than froth? You mentioned in the video about taking the brother off?
Only on the S8 not the E8. it is pre-determined
Great one. Tnx . Im wonder how do you have an americano, i have new e8 and i cant see it on the manu
Interesting. I just went and had a look at our floor model from the demo. Americano is in the main menu. It could be a country feature but I would be surprised so I would reach out to the person you bought it from or Jura directly
How do I get all the coffee selections on my screen? I don't see American displayed on my TFT screen. Just appear to have a small selection of coffees. Is their an additional menu? Thanks.
It could be different by country. Where are you?
Does this model have a product counter? If so, how do I access it?
I can't see Americano drink on my 2020 E8, how to add that??? TNX
Can I switch between coffee beans by feeding it 16G at a time? Decaf for me, leaded for 2 other folks in the house?
The machine may not recognize that much coffee in the bean hopper, it is best to use the bypass chute for the secondary coffee.
@@ecscoffeeinc Ok, thank you.
Is the front metal/chrome or plastic with chrome finish? Wondering if it's plastic how will this finish hold up long term?
Plastic with chrome finish. We have similar on other units in our showroom. Used daily and the chrome facade has held up well as it is rarely touched. The E8 does have a cheaper drip tray cover though which is plastic. That is likely not going to do as well over time. Wish they had kept it metal.
@@ecscoffeeinc could you replace it with the older or S8 drip tray ?
Can you use heavy whipping cream instead of regular milk?
Nope it won't work 😞
So Jura coffee is more flavorful than other superautomatics, like Miele, right? Are the Jura E8 drinks hot “enough”?
Ahhh. the big question. Temperature. We did a video on temperature czcams.com/video/lj_gtaUDKqM/video.html
My new Jura E8 does not sense the ground coffee. It keeps saying not enough grounds, no matter how much is in it. Is there a way to reset that?
Try a factory reset. That is about it. Sounds like a sensor is not working
Hello, I just bought the E8 chrome last week. Will the S8 adjustable frothier fit this machine?
No it will not unfortunately
Is there a way to do steam/hot milk instead of frothed milk?
Unfortunately the machine decides for you
Hey Dear, may I knew, can e8 & s8 both conect my smart phone?
Yes you can
How many grams of beans does Jura E8 use for every shot of espresso it makes?
Up to 16g max
What are your thoughts on the Saeco Xelsis Super Automatic Espresso Machine?
Loved it at first but then had too many issues with Milk so we stopped carrying that model. It may have improved since though.
@@ecscoffeeinc We just returned the Saeco Xelsis. I loved several things about it but the big issue was drink temperature (not hot enough). For a $2000.00 machine, this shouldn't be an issue! I've heard this is an issue with many of the auto expresso makers... is this true?
@@johnelliott5365 yep and it makes sense if you think about it. At the coffee shop or with a steam wand you control the amount of time the steam is in the milk. So you can technically burn the milk if you want. With superautomatic machines it is more determined. Some have milk temp adjustments...Jura for example. Look for those...or the Breville Oracle. A bit more work but hotter milk
Is there a way to do latte art on E8 milk drinks?
Not really. Most superautomatics are challenged with latte art.
Jura E8 vs S8 vs delonghi PrimmaDonna Elite? Any preferences?
I am biased To Jura honestly for the quality of coffee. Both great though. Just a personal preference.
@@ecscoffeeinc totally understandable. Lol. OK, so another question, what's the big difference between z8 and z10? And is it worth the extra $$$ compared to the s8?
@@raashidahpatel6466 so Z8 is no longer made... honestly I didn't see the value on the Z10 abd thought it was a but gimmicky...cold brew etc. But they sell quite well. The customization is much improved and the cold brew option is there if you want it. S8 IA enough in my opinion...but go somewhere to see them side by side.
@@ecscoffeeinc ok. So where I am on the coastline of South Africa, there aren't actually any retailers of the machine, I gotta order it online. I think I'll go for the S8 as originally planned. Thank you for all the assistance and replies. Definitely helped a ton. Thanx
i really want to buy this machine, but ive read that the milk doesn't get hot enough resulting in a lukewarm latte? My husband mostly drinks americanos so that feature is really appealing!
How do you make regular lattes? All the videos show a valve/switch but mine does not have one.
Just so you know - this machine does not make regular lattes. You cannot adjust the amount of foam either.
@@teamls9533 I think you can purchase the old foamer with the switch.
I just warm the milk to 50-60 F or 10-14 C
@@teamls9533 Mine also does not have the adjustable frothier. But it's fine, still makes amazing drink and looks great in our kitchen (as it should for $2500 USD).
I have the E8 and it doesn't have the names of the drinks, only the pictures
If you go into the settings you will find where to turn on the drink names.
Is there a difference between a jura eb 2020 and 2021.
Yes there are upgrades
Can I use half and half
Nope :( will not froth....too thick
I wonder why isn't Jura's amazing products available in Egypt ?
Should I get this new E8 or the S8?
Depends if you want the touch screen or not..biggest difference.
@@ecscoffeeinc Thanks, I guess I will go with the E8. The touch screen looks really slow in terms of responsiveness.
The E8 big advantage is the improved milk cleaning system which is not mentioned in this video.
Hi👋🏽 my drinks display did not have the text underneath them, how do i put the coffee names? Thank you❤️
Go to settings and acivate name.
How do i add milk froth to an americano?
Just make.milk foam as an option
That’s not a flat white!!
How hot are the milk drinks?