Do this before shooting your Benelli M4 clone!
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2021
- in this video I cover important things you must do to improve the reliability and function of your M4 clone.
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For what I thought was a good four-part review of one of these clones, the SDS S4 they can be found here on CZcams on the American Arms channel.
part 1
• SDS Imports AKSA S4 (P...
I've worked on a Charles Daly 601 DPS and a Toros Copolla T4. To say that both guns (as I received them) were assembled poorly is a kind understatement. I found the same problems you covered in this video in both guns, plus a few more. I did have to do a complete strip-down (including removing the butt stock and recoil spring tube) in order to remove all of the chips, grinding dust, and burrs that were everywhere. I also found that the top recoil pad screw on the Charles Daly was completely stripped and not holding anything, and the stock bolt nut on the Toros was cross threaded. Bottom line: If you want these guns to run properly, and not self-destruct from damage caused by filings and crud left in the guns, you best figure on a complete tare-down and reassembly before you ever take shot #1.
I got a Canuck Operator and same thing wow was that thing dirty and filled with metal shavings. One definitely has to do a full tear down and clean before shot 1 and it is nice to loctite the threads when it is disassembled.
Great video, my turkenelli is currently on its way. Thanks for taking the time to go into so much detail.
Thank you sooomuch! Your info opens up a whole new dimension to these shotguns. I have to get that torque screwdriver.
Thank You, kind Sir. This is my newest toy and first shotgun, and i realized that sometimes firing pin don't hit it. I mean, 100 shots is maximum i `did and had 3-4 "jams" and once i got situation that it fires after 3rd time. Im from Poland, people on forum's told me to clean it and oil it, then check and eventually guarantee, but it seems that its a good product and i found only one person who had such problem as me. So after finding Your's video how to clean "before shooting my Belli M4 clone" I must say it, thank You again!!
I will be doing this with my new Charles Daly m4 before I even fire a round. excellent video.
9:44 they are called M4 screws. Metric 4mm. Normal pitch for M4 scews is 0,7mm.
What is the torque spec?
@@thomasjudd7845 Depends on strength category. Can be as low as 1Nm for class 4.6 and as high as 5Nm for 12.9. Rule of thumb - handtight until you feel restistance. Not more.
So Benelli Optic screws are 7mm and these are 4mm essentially? That explains why my Scalarworks sync 01 didn't mount on: Screw were too big as the OEM Benelli is atleast 1-2mm bigger.
Should emphasize that you need to disassemble the gas pistons and clean them of oil and they MUST be put together dry with absolutely no lubricant of any kind. Do this and it will likely run flawless on any ammo.... oil in there mixes with gas, gums up, and that is why people have issues with lower velocity rounds... hot burning gasses do not mix well with any lubricant.
Thanks for the tip
Great info, thank you for sharing.
Thank you! Very good and thorough video.
30 seconds in and I’ve already thumbs up the video
Use less loctite, keep it out of fhe shoulder area of the screws, and use less torque as you've lubricated surfaces with loctite.
Thanks for the video from Russia. I own a tac12, pity I saw it only now when one screw is already missing having cut off the carving in the hole.
Hi. Any issues with your TAC 12?
How I break mine in fast and it has worked at least for both shotguns from two different manufactures. One from Panzer and one from MAC. I stripped both down and cleaned and re-oiled everything, racked it 500 times, and kept the spring under tension for a couple days. Ran the MAC 1014 with 2 boxes of low brass for trap shooting the very first time and it's ran flawless. Everything ejected without issues. Though these low brass were around 1200-1300 fps. So I'm not sure if that made a huge difference. I would like to try out some lower fps like the 1150 just to see if they run without ejection issues. Anyways I'm very happy with the guns and for the price you can't beat them.
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Very helpful. Thank you. What rifle stand are using?
Wow! Essentially disassembly and reassembly of the shotgun. How does the Turkish import warranty compare to the Benelli shotgun warranty?
Sorry but you might read the loctite instructions before possibly permanantly locking down the rail and causing future screw damage from using the wrong product. Use purple/ low strength/ not blue per product manufacturer for machine screws. Also for proper cleaning if the mag tube it should also be removed from the receiver by unscrewing it. Same for the recoil tube and spring. Removal is the proper way to clean and lube.
JUST BROUGHT ONE HOME. Unscrewed the magazine tube, and the entire barrel assembly popped apart. I guess it's supposed to do that, although the big ring on the barrel passed over the magazine tube just fine like it was. everything looked spotless, even the gas pistons. Maybe their QC has improved; selling a bunch of shitty shotguns in the North American market right before Christmas surely would tank your sales in the new year.
STILL looking for a way to disassemble the stock to put the new one it came with on. you'd THINK someone would have a video, but this guy here has the ONLY Panzer Arms M4 video can find.
U only need to put the locktite on the screws for the love of god don’t fill the threaded holes up like he did!!!!🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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And used the wrong loctite product too. All he had to do was read the instructions and he would have known "purple" for machine screws.
How's it been going haven't seen much of the channel lately hope life is good
What are the correct size rounds to use for this shotgun? The dealer sold me 2 3/4.Excellent video by the way!
Your 2 3/4 shells are fine. It will anything take up to 3” shells. You can even mix and match if you want.
man im so disappointed the benelli tube extension i got from carlsons is too long for the turkenelli
Have a Charles Daly 601 dps and ran my first slugs through it and only ran 7 before I started having failures to eject and feeding issues and help?
Where can I get some of those gloved hands u talked about never seen them for sale
A lot of the Turkish clones people say the springs are stiffer than OEM. CZ Berretta ect..
My trigger group tongue isn’t loading the shells into the chamber! I put some oil on the spring that hold it but didn’t fix it! What should i do
My bolt would jam to the rear of the receiver when shooting high power loads. The spring would no longer send the bolt home. This happened to my Charles Daily twice and both times I sent it back to the Charles Daily for repairs. Can some tell me what went wrong and how was it repaired? Did the receiver wrap from the high fps rounds? Thanks
Wow it’s dual piston just like the M4
It's an exact clone of the m4. The patent ran out so the Turks are making a shitload of them. All the parts are supposed to be interchangeable between the Benelli and the clones
How do I spell turkenelli ? great video, thank you for sharing.
As it's combination of words Turkey ( name of the country of course ;) ) and Benelli it rather should be Turknelli. Greetings!
@@mateuszd7244 Thank you for the clarification!
I would have cleaned the brake cleaner residue off first.
Anyone owns a Sulun TAC 12? If so, why do they have two small extra gas ports that most other clones don't? Thanks
Clones belong in Star Wars movies ! 😂
Your clone shoots more reliable than my real m4!
wearing gloved hands?
I have a Canuck operator and it seems that the mag tube seems made differently. I cant seem to be able to remove the spring like you showed. The Ring stopper seems deeper and cant unscrew the "tube" extender" as its not really extended. Anyone else had that problem?
did you figure out? could it have smething to do with our mag limit? im gonan bee getting one soon so id like to know
Do you have the operator or operator elite? Mine didn't come with that locking ring, the spring is held in by that fake extension. Which sucked when I put the real extension on lol. As for the ring, get a good quality pair of snaprings pliers and they should have tips you can extend to get it out
You are using the channel locks backwards.
Always handle your firearm as if it were loaded, Alec.
LOL!
Seems like the Turkish shotguns aren't really that well made is some cases they use 2 manufacturers technology in 1 shotgun
Yeah, gun designers never copy each other.
Who uses brake cleaner on their guns?!?!? That’s what they make GUN cleaner for!!🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
LOTS of people use brake clean. Just the smart ones, however.
It's the same thing, degreaser.
No worries on brake spray, so long as it DOES NOT contain chlorides or any other compound that will weaken steel...
@@magua1368 water weakens steel.
brake cleaner is the same thing