Mahidevran's Great Loss | Magnificent Century
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- Mahidevran's Great Loss "A PART OF ME IS GONE"
Magnificent Century Episode 3👉 • Magnificent Century Ep...
At the age of 26, when he ascended to the throne, Sultan Suleiman aimed to build an empire more powerful than Alexander the Great and to render the Ottomans invincible. Throughout his 46-year reign, he became the greatest warrior and ruler of both East and West.
The young Suleiman received news of his succession to the throne during a hunting party in 1520. Unaware that he would be ruling a reign beyond his dreams, he left behind his wife son and took to the road with his close friend and companion Pargali Ibrahim to reach the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul. As they started their journey overland, an Ottoman ship set sail from Crimea in the Black Sea, bringing female slaves as gifts for the Ottoman palace… On this ship was Alexandra La Rossa, the daughter of a Ukrainian Orthodox minister, taken away from her family and sold to the Crimean palace. She had no idea that she would become Hurrem, wife of Sultan Suleiman and mother of princes, ruling the empire with him through bloodshed and intrigue.
As Sultan Suleiman conquered the world, his great passion for Hurrem would clash with his love for and trust in his closest friend and advisor, Grand Vizier Pargali Ibrahim, all set against the backdrop of the tension between Christian Europe and the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century.
Cast: Halit Ergenç, Nebahat Çehre, Meryem Uzerli, Okan Yalabık, Nur Aysan, Selma Ergeç, Sema Keçik, Filiz Ahmet, Selim Bayraktar, Selen Öztürk, Nihan Büyükağaç, Burcu Tuna, Merve Oflaz, Arif Erkin, Ali Uyandıran, Alp Öyken, Murat Tüzün, Doğan Turan, Gökhan Çelebi, Yüksel Ünal.
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The moment we realized that Mahedrivan was insane. I think overall we could understand that she didn't want to share the Sultan. But this? This is just crazy and she's not thinking at all.
She never liked Hurrem and in end thst was her downfall and she lost her son too in end
Hurrem also did not like firuze and valeria when she found out the truth . Nobody wants to share their love@@marihillestad5486
Look how Mahedevrin conducted herself in front of young Mustafa over a ring that wasn't hers.
Gods, it was so embarrassing
Turhan learned from her
@@user-vr1lw4or6i what do you mean
@@yumekojabami4179 Turhan does the same
No, it was hers! Sulejman had promised it to her- not Sasha. But then he promised Sasha a pendant- and gave it to Makhidevran! A great statesman, warrior, poet, jewelry designer- yes. A good husband and father? Not so much.
Good acting from mahidevran actress
How cute is little Mustafa. ❤
Mahidevran was never The Haseki. She wasn't even a sultan. If you go to her small tomb in Bursa, it's written "Mahidevran Hatun" there. And if you go to Hürrem's grand tomb in Istanbul adjacent to that of Süleyman's, it's written "Haseki Hürrem Sultan" (Empress Hürrem Sultan).
In the letters and records she was mentioned as sultan. It says hatun in the tombstone because she lost all her powers after his son’s execution.
@@onurunlu129 This is absolutely not the case at all-there are no surviving letters that apply such a title to her and, in privy purse registers for the harem, her title is hatun. That form of address was literally applied to every woman of her status, even Hürrem until the death of Suleiman's mother created cause for her elevation. People need to stop behaving as if the reality of Mahidevran being addressed as "Mahidevran Hatun" is an insult of some kind.
@@Redluna32 She frees all of her slaves in her will, and her name is mentioned as “Mah-i Devran Sultan” in her will. So yes, she was called as sultan.
@@onurunlu129 She was technically not a sultana as she was not the legal wife or a sister/daughter of the sultan but she was called a sultana because she was the mother of Shehzade Mustafa who was first in line to the throne until his execution.
@@Drama_Voyagewhat is this nonsense?
Who said that mahdivran was not sulieman”s legal wife?!.
Don’t listen to the series they have changed many facts just to extra dramatize it.
In reality mahdivran was the sultan’s legal wife for 2 reasons
The first reason is that she comes from a noble decent whether she was a Circassian princess or a daughter of a very rich noble man.
The second reason was that she was a Muslim. And it was prohibited for Muslim girls to enter the harem as concubines, they should first marry the sultan legally then enter the harrem as the sultan’s wife.
And by the way she was a mother of 2 princes and a sultana and there are also some references that claim that she had a third prince but that’s not proven
So, Mahidevran ruined any chance of amicability between Hurrem and Mustafa. If there was a good relation between Hurrem and Mustafa, Hurrem may have tried to abolish fraticide far before Kosem Sultan.
this!
If only Mahidevran took Valide’s advice
No women will think of sharing her husband..I fell poor fr her😢
In the end, that’s kind of the whole emotional crux point. He’s not her husband. She’s a concubine. A favored concubine, but still just a concubine the same as Hurrem and the other historical 15 or so women that belonged to Suleiman. In the end, he’s the sultan and she’s just a part of his harem. He owes her LESS than physical and emotional fidelity because the whole arrangement was to encourage rulers to spread their seed so to speak. She kind of forgets or denies and her resulting erratic responses has consequences.
If anything, it’s a whole point on its own that Hurrem is the one that Suleiman makes into his legal wife. Something completely unprecedented at the time.
AHAHAHAHA I just noticed now. Ibrahim really was upset about Mustafa calling him Suleiman's subject? For real?! 😂 Besides the fact that it's the truth, it came from young Mustafa who would have not said it with any malice. So why the bitterness??
Self-esteem issues, that's all. He had an enourmous complex of slavery and when it comes to complexes, it takes very, very little to hurt someone.
Suleiman claimed him as his brother, said he loved him but he kept him a slave and valide did not adopt him. He felt he had no real family, even with hatice. She called him her slave. That's why his daughter with nigar was so important to him, she was his.
he wanted to be powerful.
I like how all the women where always happy that their would be more children in the palace with sounds of little pitter patts across the palace. They did care for eachother kids and made sure that they where safe. Hurrem protected Mustafa. Mihiverdan pulled Mehmet out of the lily pond and keep him from drowning and she was crying and panicking to get to hurrems son. Why couldn't they work together to help with the kids. They should both trust each other around eachothers kids. Hurrem wouldn't kill a child .
If the ladies had watched over the children like they were supposed to, Mehmet would never have fallen in the water to begin with.
If Mustafa hadn't started crying, they would never have noticed.
One life's challenging part is dealing with negative people in life
Mahidevran should've treated hurrem as if she didn't exist and see the sultan as a sultan not her love
Yes it hurts a lot
But she should've been logical instead of emotional
Follow the rings journey thru MC Kosem series. And what it represents to those who possess it.
My only critique is that, when you beat someone that badly, it’s going to leave some marks on you too. Not figuratively, but I mean like, split skin and bruises on your own hands. Especially without and even with “proper technique”, which understandably is not happening here.
Gufem looks pretty In this episode
She gave herself unnecessary stress over a ring.
Okay clearly not one of the best moment of Mahidevran when she yells to Hurrem for the ring and then after beat her horribly ( there will be plenty soon).
But without excuse her when she beat horribly Hurrem, she make a falsebirth and instead that Suleiman take the time of console her for this traumatizing moment ( as it the only correct thing to make when a person close to you make a falsebirth especially if it was the person who was in couple) he prefer to make good time with Hurrem ( he will make after horrible moment for Hurrem surely for test her loyalty as he know that Mahidevran will take the good decision soon or later to give up on him) and even after told to Mustafa ( a child) that if his mother make a falsebirth it is because that Mustafa don't want a sibling ( a very good father , sarcasm of course).
Which it is pain me it that we clearly see to flashback that before entering to this palace Hurrem and Mahidevran can have good heart ( Hurrem when she had her family and young Mahidevran in Manisa) and even after sometimes can have soft moments but this toxical environnement make them more and more horrible (even if they are not evils) and more manipulators shameless :( , until the end when they find some peace ( Hurrem when she is near to die and Mahidevran in the end too ). But to be honest the fratricidal law musn't help as they are always stressful ( understable in theirs place I will do anything to protect my childs too).
Some said that the malediction of Mahidevran's son and Hurrem's child were theirs mothers and if they were banished it would be good for theirs childs. But I am totally disagreed with this , the malediction of Suleiman childs were not to have mothers like Mahidevran and Hurrem but to have a father like Suleiman.
3. Yes, Suleiman stirred up his son's rivalry. Not only Mustafa - Hurrem's children, but also Selim-Bayezid's rivalry
@@nielubieinceli So true he subtily worsened Selim and Bayezid's relationship (such as the day of Murad's circumcision when he said he dreamed that Murad would be on the throne). And after dumping Selim in episode 139 he does the same with Murad praising him all the time and not wanting to spend time with Selim. A real model father decidedly (joke)
I completely agree. It's interesting that both Hürren and Mahidevran enter the show having to contend with a lost love. Hürrem with her family and Mahidevran with Süleyman. They're both traumatised women trying to fight for them. And Süleyman is far more the cause of their and their children's problems than they are. Telling Mustafa the miscarriage was his fault was literal emotional abuse.
@@hurremsultanas File this one under things I forgot this man did. I just... God, I remember getting as weepy as Mahidevran when little Mustafa was offering prayers to please let his brother come as this time he'd be good to him.
@@Redluna32 Yeah it really shows how being told that was a genuine trauma for him at such a young age
I think valide caused the miscarriage. Or at least contributed to it. I think that's why she gave her the warnings about staying calm and watching what she eats.
Nonsense. She wanted that baby too. She was happy when she got to know that Mahidevran was pregnant.
Mahidevran is so obsess
even a child was amazed by meryem uzerli beauty❤
But if we think it carefully, it's good because if she gave birth to another child, it would have mustafas fate because she would end two of her children this time instead of one (Mustafa)
It could be sultana. And no, if woman wants a baby, miscarriage is a tragedy.
How could you even think such a thing.
@@nielubieinceli because that's how it goes on mahidevran
@@user-vr1lw4or6i
To be honest, I understand Mahidevran.
Suleiman could send away she and Mustafa or marry her off. As I remember, there was at least one concubine in real history, who was pregnant with sultan, but her behavior became unacceptable . She was married off to a statesman eventhough she bore a son. So, if he didnt love Mahidevran, he could gave her chance for happy life 🤷🏼♀️.
@@nielubieinceli or send her away once and for all
@@nielubieinceli That was Uveys Pasha-Suleiman's half brother. They also mentioned him
in episode 1.
But it's still unclear if that story was true. Many historians don't believe in that.
She acts this way, the blames hurrem for her loosing the baby. She put herself through unnecessary stress which effects a pregnancy and the body big time. It was her doing, the way she acts is why she had the life she had.
That's sick blaming a woman for her miscarriage. What's wrong with you?
Why did Hurrem not fight back or at least defended herself there? She just let Mahidevran beat her without struggling for her life.
She would be punish. Mahidevran would surely turn it into an assault from Hurrem, especially there was no witnesses.
And so, Hürrem didn't fight back and was a clear victim of the situation
Hurrem didn't have mehmet yet here. She had no power and no friends with power. She had to be smart
Hurrem never fight back. But you know what she did after that. She complained about this to suleyman. She knows how to manipulate suleyman.
@@Justanormalhuman1992I wouldn’t say she went out of her way to complain, she seemed more focused on him not seeing her butchered face. Suleiman was the one who barged into her room, saw the damage and demanded her to tell him who did it, what was she supposed do? Lie to the sultan and say she fell down the stairs? Girl had literal claw marks on her face and no where else, stairs don’t focus on one part of the body, he ain’t stupid. Unless she manages to make him believe she tripped and bounced off her face straight down
Many judge her smiling face when he calls for daye after, but it wasn’t a result of him saying he’ll kill or banish mahidevran, he ordered for hurrem to be taken to his room so he can tend to her, if anything I’d say she’s feeling relief at being under protection and happiness for his care
So she would be punished hurrem won't because she didn't every harm mihiverdan. M is just a jealous power hungry brat
First is that Mahidevran reminded me so much of Anne Boleyn in that first scene. If only she had rested, she would have had a son to bring about the golden world
Secondly, why was Ibrahim upset, mustapha didn’t lie, he is but a subject.
Anne Boleyns miscarriage was caused by syphilis that they said king Henry had.
Mahedevrin started all this misbehave and humiliation
no she didn’t
@Dreamfyre2 But this was all after she lost her baby
@Dreamfyre2 True but Hürrem did the same things to Isabella and her own bff Gulnihal…..
@Dreamfyre2 Fair enough
How dare she do that to Hurrem sultana? In episode 126, she will try to do the same but they will catch her and valide hurrem sultan will exile her
Hurrem is so cute
Mahidevran was insane with jealousy.
That was her downfall in end
so was Hurrem
mother of Sultan was murderer, she just murdered her grandson ,in Mahidevran belly
mahidevran didn't taught her son manners on the other side hurrem taught her all children manners and treat others with respect.
The Valide Sultan never said Happy Hurreme to any of her grandchildren. Hurreme, where the Valide saw the brides separately, brought this much and the Ottomans ate her head
She lost the baby because she was full of spite and bitterness, so her womb became poisonous.
Egy hisztérika Mardemblán
Suleiman promised to give the ring to mahidevran we can see it in ep1
I feel so bad for Mahidvran she was so sad no body wants to share her love with other women M was totally right I hate Hurram she was a witch and a killer
he was a king…if Hureem wasn’t there he could’ve liked another woman. Also Mahidevran always harms her in the latter episodes
She should have focus on her pregnancy instead of that ring...
If mahi had and brains she would of used her talents to recapture his eye if only sometimes instead she let her broken heart cost her even that much. She was always a concubine elevated in status but a concubine she knew the rule and traditions. You were allowed to feel but you could not act a fool. I understand her hurt but after a few years it was past pathetic and ridiculous the way she carried on
Mahidevran 😡😡😡
She is such a crybaby
she literally lost her baby.
What a sheep she is fighting in front of her child
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Just look how every thing was beautiful before Hurrem starts her evil plans...
Look at Mustafa and his father's relationship
Lets be honest, if Hurrem didn't exist, there wouldn't be that fightings, killings, arguings...
Hurrem had no role in the strained relationship between Sultan and Mahidevran. She loved Mustafa in the initial stages too. If there was someone to blame, it had to be the harem culture 😂 that allowed the Sultan to keep getting concubines even after getting a shehazade. This would have passed too, except Sultan fell in love with Hurrem which was unheard of in the harem and didn't even touch any woman after encountering her
@@balapranav7096 of course that harem culture was awful but I mean that Hurrem was really an evil.
She was a concubine and her friend Maria too
Look at what she did to her best friend to keep her situation.
But I don't know why do people blame on mahidevran for trying to hurt Hurrem and even call Hurrem a strong women when she kills any revil.
And you are right, she loved Mustafa at first but after that she knew him as an enemy, and even influenced the sultan to kill him
Sorry if I have grammatic or spelling problems, Im not native😅🌷
@@rozhand8138 they are one sided. They dont see the evil side of hurrem. The problem started after her entry.
@@Justanormalhuman1992 exactly
And the thing that drives me crazy is that they confuse strongness with being evil
In their opinion when mahidevran tries to hurt the new concubine she is evil, illogical, and the other bad things
But when Hurrem does many worse things, they name it strenght😶
@@rozhand8138 exactly. In the earlier episode, hurrem told her friend that she will make everyone bow to her including sultan suleyman. She is greedy for power. If she was humble to valide, hatice and mahidevran, they wont go against her. They might be good to her . All started because of hurrem’s arrogance.
I dont like Mahidevran. She's not smart at all.
Сколько горя принесла хюрем
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She did it it would be daughter, she did it.
She only had Mustafa in real life
No she had a sultana too, raziye
@@20PINKluvr she had raziye sultan too
She did but she died due to infant mortality provlems. U know medieval times were hard for any baby to survive@@user-gp3xf7jp9n