REGENESIS: George Monbiot calls for the end of (almost all) animal farming
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2022
- Britain's leading environmental thinker presents his most audacious idea yet, in this 5 minute short film from director Franny Armstrong (THE AGE OF STUPID, McLIBEL) and the animation team at Brewery VFX (www.brewery-vfx.com).
Franny Armstrong and George Monbiot launched this film at a special 5x15 hour-long debate. Watch here: • George Monbiot on Rege...
These are deeply important reasons for a #JustTransition to end animal farming & fishing. The most important is that these billions and trillions of beings are sentient - they experience suffering & flourishing just like dogs, cats and humans. That's why we need to shift to Sentientism as a worldview: "Evidence, reason and compassion for all sentient beings". Doing so will be good for non-human animals, for us human animals and for the planet we all share. Thanks George & Franny! czcams.com/users/Sentientism
Why isn’t the global food policy based on science like this rather than profits?
Bloody amazing thank you. Let’s do it now!
The 64 million dollar question is, how do we convince the decision makers that this has to be done? If we want human civilization to continue.
You are blessed for being persecuted for speaking truth to power, Sir. All my best regards to you and please keep speaking the truth. Evade ignorance. For your trials you will be rewarded ten fold. So may it be written, so may it be done. Bless you. Curses upon the meat eating ignorant masses.
‘’Evade Ignorance’’ yeh right George does that, so long as it’s not about Nuke Power, Gene Editing( GMO), Animal Testing, and other big business nastiness! ✊🏽🌎🌻
Interesting idea, but I really I hope he discusses the energy inputs needed to grow meat in a lab and to split the water to hydrogen and oxygen as stated. I imagine it would be quite energy intensive, which yes could be obtained from renewables but that still requires mining of trace elements and construction CO2 footprint costs of whatever type of renewable energy is used.
He discusses this in his book, 'Regenesis'. He acknowledges that it is a concern but presents evidence that suggests that it is still a fraction of the CO2 footprint of the current system. Plus, as we focus more attention to developing these newer systems, there will inevitably be an increase in efficiency.
Great video. How about an update every few months? At 81 in my lifetime 80% of wild places & wild animals have been destroyed. Before he went back to the Railways my father gardened & had a small holding. In 1951 the chickens that pecked through a field all and I collected eggs from were crowded into barns. Now in concrete torture blocks known as intensive farming. The cruelties now inflicted on animals the drugs pumped into them is something from a horror film only it's real. The sooner Intensive brewed food comes the better.
The collapse of animal agriculture will happen in my lifetime. Probably from crop failure. The crops needed to feed billions of animals. Plant food and water for humans directly, not through animals.
Okay but what about the recently discovered essential fatty acids only found in meat? They were some kind of odd-chain triglycerides. Lacking those might be part of why so many vegans start feeling sick and then go back to eating meat again after a few years.
Are you referring to EPA/DHA?... If so - there are vegan sources of this available in the form of algae based supplements.
EPA/DHA aren't odd-chain though... Maybe you're referring to pentadecanoic acid and heptadecanoic acid? (neither of which are considered essential)
@@d0nj03 that’s not true… I take vegan omegas and it contains 250mg DHA and 125mg EPA.
@@ItsJordaninnit Ah, seems you're right. I took that idea from an expert interview, but that dude might not have been up to date with everything. Plus there seems to be such a thing as "retroconversion" of DHA to EPA in our metabolism, so even pure DHA supplements could do a decent job of covering EPA needs.
@@d0nj03 Yes, it is true that our bodies can retroconvert some of the DHA to EPA endogenously. However, the conversion rate is limited, and it may not be sufficient to meet all of our EPA needs.
The conversion rate of DHA to EPA is typically low, around 5-10% in humans. Therefore, to achieve adequate EPA status solely through retroconversion, you would need to consume a significantly higher amount of DHA compared to EPA.
So just to be on the safe side I supplement both. Having said that there isn’t actually much evidence to suggest that vegans are at a high risk of neurological diseases when compared to pescatarians - so I just take it as a precautionary measure really.
Great video, brilliant animation and sound!
Looking forward to reading your book.
It's excellent 👍
Great content, thank you very much. I ordered the book. It offers some kind of hope for the future and I feel a lot of people need a hopeful message, I do!
Seems like a no-brainer to me, but it will take a lot of effort to convince the religiously 'it's not natural' crowd. It could easily replace bulk food like the awful KFCs buckets for instance. I imagine these would be indistinguishable from 'natural' killed chickens if you ask me. And thinks like pancakes, etc. should be doable in the near future. Other products (beef, some pork) will be a lot harder to reproduce, so I guess some animal farming will always exist.
It would be great if the fermented proteins could replace dairy (yoghurt, cheese) in a way you can't distinguish it. That would cut away lots of beef / milk farming.
Keep repeating land sparing could lead to MORE nature instead of land sharing that leads to MORE farmland. People always refer to nature as farmland birds and beatiful hedges etc. but that's all manmade landscape. The picture in their head is always the landscape of their youth, but that's a barren image to start with, think of the landscape before that and how that would look like! I love these old landscapes, but I love nature (swamps, forests, wetlands, etc) far more.
I'm an adversary to the Farm to Fork policy for that reason, it will lead to less nature. We have to focus on improving yields on less land and innovations like the one mentioned in this movie.
If Monbiot's foolish ideas were ever put into practice, all the land once used for beef, lamb, dairy and pork would be built on for housing. Devon, one of the most beautiful landscapes in the world, a landscape totally shaped and wholly dependent on the needs of dairy and beef farming would become redundant and so the lands would be handed over to property developers. England would effectively become a mega city.
@@gregoryjames165 no it wouldn’t be built on for housing ! That’s an absurd idea
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Why?
@@gregoryjames165 because it would be re-wilded and/or used for crops. Less than 6% of England is currently built on, so there is plenty of space.
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Not 6%. 10%. But why would it be rewilded if there is no money to be made from it for the land owner and far more profit in selling the land to developers? Over the next 30 years it is estimated 500 million young African men are moving to Europe and it is racist to apply limits to mass immigration. So the landmass of England is destined to become a mega city. Since 1997 governments have grown the population of England by 8 million people via mass immigration and offspring of the new arrivals. When one considers the few million unaccounted for undocumented, that is the population of Sweden in a landmass a quarter of the size in as little as 25 years!! The government invited 1 million last year alone. In 2015 it was calculated Britain lost 2000sq. miles in as little as 6 years!And there’s been a hundred-fold increase in our best farmland lost to development in little more than a decade,
Guys, just don't invent bullshits to defend your privilege of eating meat. Just say that you don't even want to consider alternatives. And don't talk about GM without knowing anything about his long-time fight for environmental justice.
It's not a privilege. Grass is natural, grown from sunlight, which is free. No ploughing or pesticides needed.
Hedges and field margins, worms and dung beetles, birds thrive.
Most land is marginal and cannot grow crops.
Proud of being a beef and lamb farmer from Ireland feeding most of Britain.
Lab food...funded by Bill Gates. No thanks, but you are welcome to it. Good luck with that.
He's got a good Liam Gallagher swagger going on there
I found myself thinking about treadmills at that point.
Let the trolls do as they will Mr Monbiot and the science will always trump myopic self-interest.
Animal agriculture IS harming the planet - therefore farming HAS to change.
Oh the tragedy that you might have to forgo your cherished bangers, bacon and Kentucky fried chicken for a stab at trying to recalibrate our ecosystem; which is currently under siege by the unstoppable demand for people's 'need' for meat, dairy and eggs!
It's so-called science that's the problem .Farming has changed dramatically over the last 50 years . Far more chemicals are used , glyphosate in particular is doing enormous damage to the land , waterways , insect populations ,and our guts .Never did humans eat so much poor quality meat , and never was so much land used to produce all that meat . I think the real problem is pollution not climate change but still , we have to work with nature not against her . As the native American saying goes , what will man do when everything is gone and he discovers that he can't eat money ?
If what you say is correct, surely it would be sensible to establish factory protein production to the level needed to feed the planet's population, before we get rid of our traditional food sources .
Very good concise video. Thank you for this.
So many people making negative comments, somehow oblivious to the crisis we are facing.
I don't understand the deeply entrenched people who want to defend the status quo at the very cost of everything around us, they say that nobody should tell them how to live, but our grandchildren will inherit a dust-bowl if we just let everyone eat cheeseburgers now.
If a child wants to eat nothing but ice cream all day, do we let them? No - we have to be responsible and do what is best for them, even if they don't want to accept it.
There will not be another generation that can make a change, if we wait now we will not be able to form a new stable model for food production, and the next generation will face wars over dwindling food supplies, then extinction.
oi oi crimson anus, shut your north and south, your opinion is shit. I am a grandchild of a generation who ate cheeseburgers, I don't see no dust-bowl you idiot.
Thank you George
Drought is so common these days. So who gets the water? Are you going to go without while some industrialist gives a cow more in a day than you use in a week? How long will you put up with it?
Great idea to save our world and futures. .
Man, the trolls got here fast! Anyway, thanks for all you do, Mr. Monbiot.
You have my support all the way
A short rant from me on the big debate of plant based vs. omnivore.
As someone not trained in science I have to go by what little I know. But from a layman’s perspective, after watching endless hours of debates between experts who recommend plant based vs. those advocating for omnivorous diets I have become convinced that a balanced whole food plant based diet is nutritionally complete (in conjunction with the appropriate supplementation such as b12 and omega fatty acid supplements.) In fact, if the likes of Dr. Gregor are correct, WFPB is very likely superior to an omnivorous diet.
Mock meats are ok, but they are generally considered by health and fitness experts to be ‘transition foods’ for those who are transitioning from omnivore to vegan. I eat mock meats too often and it would help me lose weight if I stopped eating them so much.
Are we hard-wired by evolution to enjoy the taste of meat? Perhaps, I don’t know. We are certainly hardwired to enjoy calorically dense foods, and animal products do tend to be ~1000kcal per pound, so it would make sense that we crave them. But there is a whole world or culinary delight to be enjoyed in lentils and beans. Skilfully cooked and flavoured tofu or seitan is extremely delicious and is usually healthier than mock meats (which tend to contain a lot of oil.)
Culturally people’s culinary traditions mean they are understandably attached to the flavour and texture of meat. I enjoy meat but I chose not to eat it for ethical, environmental and health reasons.
When I speak to people, especially older people, they say they don’t want to eat mock meats because they “don’t know what they are getting.” But then again, they haven’t always considered what is actually in their meat, for example, residues of antibiotics or harmful viruses and bacteria. And they often haven’t considered the advantages of mock meats, such as they contain no dietary cholesterol or heme iron.
My observation is that people are very suspicious of mock meats, and especially suspicious of the idea of cultured meats. It will take a lot to convince them that it is better for their health to eat cultured meat than to eat real meat. And it will have to taste convincingly like real meat.
I desperately hope that humanity will learn, before it is too late, to value the lives of the animals and the life support systems of our planet over taste pleasure.
George Monbiot’s ‘Regenesis’and Ed Winter’s ‘Vegan Propaganda’ are IMO two important books that have come out this year. I’d recommend reading them. And it’s a good idea to read these books and give them some thought before dismissing them. For my part, I will try not to dismiss those on the opposite side of the argument. If we try to learn arguments for and against on both sides, then we will hopefully arrive at the best way forward.
Let’s save the soil, the biodiversity, the animals, the oceans! Let’s grow our food in a truly sustainable way! Let’s stop supporting animal agriculture and fishing, lest the land become barren and the oceans empty!
Thanks for the video, it’s great 👍
I haven't eaten meat for nearly 50 years. I tried once or twice but cannot stand the taste even though as a child I was an enthusiastic meat eater. The taste becomes much too strong and you can taste the dead animal underneath. Same with cow's milk...horrible sour taste underneath. Question of habit I think.
Yup. We've all made the same rants because the facts are the facts. If you watch Earthling Ed debate carnivores/omnivores they always revert to the same tired arguments and as soon as one is destroyed, they never concede the validity of anything you are saying and continue to leap about.
This was a short rant? LOL I don't feel so bad about my long responses now.
@@shelleywinters6763 this is my pet subject so I could go on all day 😆
Supplementing means your diet is Deficient stopped reading from there on. How you can come to the conclusion that eating a diet that doesn’t provide everything you need to to one that does is superior Is pretty mental.
Excellent film, thank you George, Franny and team.
Thanks for sharing, interesting topic!
I'm gonna favourite this because it's a good resume of Monbiot's thesis, because of Armstrong's animation, but mostly because it was filmed in Devon ❤
Hm. Since when does CZcams not show the posting date of a clip?
OMG iT's A cOnSpIrAcY!!!1!
"Premiered Jun 15, 2022"
So good!!
Remarkable , important News .
Thank you ! Well done presentation 👏
We have a double population crisis. Us and them!
Brilliant - thanks George (loved the book), and Franny - great film, really accessible! xx
I like this video and agree we need to stop farming animals to reclaim farmland to be rewilded and restore the Earth's biodiversity, of course. What I don't like is the impression one is left with that some future technology is coming to provide for us when we already have a viable solution i.e a plant-based food system.
It's all well and good talking about growing our protein in huge vats but where can I buy this stuff right now? Our planetary systems need rapid solutions and we should not encourage people to rest on their laurels until some future technology comes along to save us. We need to act NOW and right now transitioning away from animal farming and fishing to exclusively plant-based agriculture will reduce farmland by over 75% and actually feed the entire human population. Under the current system almost 1 billion people do not have enough to eat.
Great work George and Franny - thank you.
Just watched Hardtalk today 29/08/22 on BBC and I just wanted to thank you George. I have followed, listened and read you for many years. You are by far the most articulet, knowledgeable and passionate person on this subject, one of the most defining and important subjects our species face. As a Chemical Engineer who worked for Oil and Gas producing Petrol, ATK and Diesel and working on ETP's ( which I gave up long ago for the reasons you explain and my own personal objections) I know exactly what you are trying to argue. Let's hope the rest of the planet wakes up soon. Keep the heed George. Cheers 🍻 More Breweries 👍
Truth is beautiful, made ugly when challenging one's own concepts.
I don’t remember anyone called ‘’Franny Armstrong’’ in the London Greenpeace( nothing to do with famous Greenpeace) in the Mc Libel Campaign.
Its a no brainer.we cant let stubborn meat eaters dictate our future because they arent prepared to make the same sacrfice as others.
Private jets, mansions, middle class 'travellers' who fly around the world like we use buses have no role to play. Nor does the government which isn't pulling its weight, just green washing bullshit, bullshit on steroids, working people still pressured to consume excessively their hard earned money, feel like they need a new car and kitchen to fit in, work in an unsustainable and alienating job and increasingly can't afford the basics. We won't deal with any of that just target the working man for having a bacon butty and milk in his tea according to the middle class vegan brigade.
@@WaterhenBloa14 study the facts you can still have meat it just wont be meat.stereotypes wont wash.
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Besides Solar Foods, there are other companies doing this, Deep Branch from the UK and Air Protein from the US
Properly managed grazing is essential for environmentally sustainable land management. My small flock of sheep on my land has transformed a landscape overgrown with invasive species to lush pasture. Nesting birds thrive here and flycatchers follow our sheep around the pasture catching bugs they stir up. Our hardwood forest is thriving due to invasive brush control (again, thank you sheep) and all manner of wildlife thrive in our diverse landscape. Monbiot, your ignorance is astounding!
tell us more about how financially invested you are in the continued breeding and slaughter of #sentient beings. Haven't you heard that humans have no need for the flesh of other animals for survival?
You can easily transition your business into managing a #foodforest that supports ALL life, no need to breed, raise and kill anyone. What's stopping you?
#veganicpermaculture
#SixthMassExtinction
You’re mistaking using a very small number of animals to help with livestock farming.
Where is it possible to try this protein?
It's not being marketed yet. The company is called Solar Foods.
21 minutes to go. ah got 21 minutes to go. 21 minutes until ah gotta goah got 21 minutes to go
In places like Great Britain and non-brittle climates, it would be better to end mass grazing but more than half of the earth's land mass is brittle and relies on herbivores to maintain plant life. you can overrest a brittle environment to where it supports much less natural wildlife and even drives some out because there is not enough food or it no longer provides the right micro environment.
Part of rewilding should be protected large hunting grounds. Dan Barber did that TED talk about the sustainable fish farm in Spain which was like 10 thousand acres or something. I think a similar kind of farming can be done for hunting and harvesting animals for eating from large parks.
And besides that traditional farming should have a place in our society, but it should be the old models that people once used of grazing natural grasslands, and rotating the lands to protect and cultivate the soil and the watershed. Geoff Lawton I believe has argued for this kind of permaculture of design which does not use harmful chemicals or GMOs but just uses worms, ducks, and a whole layered system of using nature to our advantage with the goals being to mitigate pollution and to sustain a balanced natural ecosystem which includes the soil and watershed.
I used to butcher feral pigs that had been hunted down in Australia. The meat is mostly flown to France & Germany, where they pay top dollar. The air freight carbon impact of doing that is probably not good. But meanwhile, the idea of harvesting a small amount of game meat from a hunting ground sounds really good. Reminds me of a scheme in PNG where the locals learned how to selectively harvest big hardwood trees, and made more money than by just clearing the forest.
@@danejensen2119 My dad hunted wild boar that had bred with domesticated hogs in NC when I was a kid. They were huge and super tough. My dad had the meat butchered and we had a ton of sausage from those wild boar. But there is plenty of meat and the amount of land that there is is something that the full scale of is never really talked about. Everyone on earth can live in the continental US on 65 acre patches of land.
@@JamesOGant I've never hunted, but some of those boars I butchered were massive, 550 pounds dressed. Meanwhile all these calculations about what the earth can sustain, I'm gonna have to check that out, because I don't know. There are too many variables.
@@danejensen2119 Yeah I think that's what happens when wild boars cross breed with with domesticated pigs? Most wild boars around the world are smaller and more efficient I guess for nature.
The calculations I mentioned are just to point out that on this topic of sustainability there really is a TON of land and water and resources. But the designs we use are astronomically wasteful at least since factory farming and greed became the MO since the 1970s and 80s when traditional farming practices were done away with and replaced with what we now call factory farming...
Geoff Lawton talks a lot about the virtues of traditional sustainable farming, using worms and ducks to aerate soil, composting, sustainable irrigation and using natural systems to heal nature.
@@JamesOGant I don't know the technical details of pig breeds. Some of the ones we processed looked like domestic pigs gone wild. But the others, including the small ones and the biggest ones had the razorback features. Meanwhile I'll check out this Geoff Lawton bloke, cheers.
Intriguing! Can't wait to find out more.
Great ideas here hope we all can change to make this happen the alternative is too terrible to imagine
Well done team - that's a brilliant piece of work. Poetry in motion (on a treadmill?) 🙂
Great film. Great book
This is an awesome video!
U got contacts George?
Enjoyed the video, the 'Regenesis' book is excellent (especially the chapters about soil, the effects of pollution and Tolhurst organic farming). Governments (and people) need to face the facts about what is happening sooner rather than later, before it is too late. But then, a good government in the UK would be a great start... shame about that!
I loved the audiobook. George has a great voice for that kind of thing.
I mean, could be delicious!
Thank you so much. For everything. Sharing widely. X
What about oysters and mussels?
Funnily enough we made a also film about that.... czcams.com/video/o-YuoWaCfhI/video.htmlsi=zb6HcXGQdAwMBfUS
Love the book. Especially the first chapter on soil, weirdly. A book on geoengineering might be fun too though I might be the only one who would read it.
Agreed. It made me look at the tubs where I try to grow veg in a completely different way!
👋💚👍 REGENESIS....
not sure the walking wiggle effect works
I hope the world will listen to this. Thank you for being so clear and articulate. We don't need animal farming. Nobody wants to take farmers' livelihood away, but you can't raise and kill animals just to have an occupation. There so much more interesting things to do that actually brings som good to the world.
i absolutely loved this!! so excited to read the book
How is this his idea? Animal rights activists and vegans has been saying this for years. He's right about it but this idea is not his and he's pretty late to arrive at this conclusion. Watch Cowspiracy or the hundreds of other vegan movies on this topic for a more in depth look at this subject.
Love your stuff kick on love it.
our loyalties are also to our farming communities which rely upon many things
Stopping with farm animals doesnt mean stopping farming. Also, most of us are capable and probably should grow some of our own food.
How long do we stay loyal to a way of life that is killing our planet?
So how does one explain that to everyone so that they are all on side to make it achieveable?
@@bountyhunter7502 do you drive? Do you heat your home? Hmmm ok
So much truth! thank you
Well the reason green energy will grow explosively is that wind and solar including energy storage is the least expensive energy. If they can produce healthier,less expensive, good tasting protein than it will replace animal proteins.
Solar is useless in winter when energy is most needed for heating. Wind too because there is often long spells of little wind. Tidal and nuke are the only genuine options.
@@gregoryjames165 it all depends on the region, maybe where you live but in my region both solar and wind are very usable in such an amount even that recently the whole country was powered by wind energy alone and that with not even all planned windturbine built yet
We have to change the weather to cool things off, and that means stopping the production of food.
Priorities *insert designated gender here*! Sky rocketing food prices brought on by shortages is a small price to pay for changing the weather.
You can always eat bugs.
Yeah, really need to cool the weather down. It's so hot right now here in Northern Europe I can barely handle it. I've taken to sleeping outside naked and I'm still sweating buckets.
yeah, i mean, it's so hot everywhere right now, everyone is getting very very sweaty, even in polar regions and even in very high altitudes
Anyone consider fewer people ? Can you imagine wolves breeding like humans ? They adapt to their environment. NOT DOMINATE.
Births per female have been dropping for decades now - across the planet. As women are offered more education, healthcare and rights, they choose to have fewer children. This is happening right now. So, we are already in the worldwide “peak baby” zone. We need to adapt away from animal proteins and materials, and back to plant-based proteins and materials.
As much as I've valued your voice on many things, and as someone who doesn't eat meat, I have to say I can't get on board with this "solution".
Perhaps for the fast food industry, but then again its the poor of us who rely on cheap fast food and budget supermarkets to get any food at all that will be stuck on mock meats. Industry and corporate practises has proven to us that profit trumps all, so it wont be long until quality is off the table and the population is addicted to vat grown sludge. With no option of healthy of food at all.
Perhaps a better solution is greater education and empowerment for communities to grow their own, hunt their own (where possible) and learn to be an integrated part of our world rather than fighting nature for profit.
When you say livestock production must stop, are you including horses, dogs, cats etc ?
Yes unfortunately there are too many unwanted domesticated dogs and cats.
I totally agree with you
This is good. That said, we have a way of producing protein much more efficiently and ecologically already in widespread use. You can easily get all your required nutrients for superior health and vitality deliciously by eating plants.
yes, in an ideal world, but when people have to resort to eating "junk food" as the plants are too expensive to buy, the vitamin and mineral supplements are a luxury item. The rates of malnutrition in the UK has risen since 2010, with obesity, scurvy, vid D, and other diet related conditions due to restricted finances. Then you have to consider nutritional value of fruits and veg, that has declined over time due to "consumer demand" and "supermarket power" in selecting fruit and veg on looks, shelf life, and colour, over taste and nutrition, with a loss of low yield varieties that offer genetic resistance to drought, disease, pests, etc. Then you have to factor in monocultures, ecological deserts, loss of soil bioactivity, nutrient loss, etc. We still need animal farming as part of our healthy diet, but also as part of a healthy land management, soil nutrition, crop rotation system but in lower density, organic (or as close to organic as some "chemicals" i.e. medicine will be required to treat any health issues), mixed arable/pastoral mixed farming where the land/ecology is suitable, as current methods is hyperindustralised.
@@olavsantiago You are talking nonsense. You can eat a nutritious and delicious vegan diet very cheaply. You are ignorant.
@@olavsantiago Only 5% of US cropland uses manure as fertilizer, and half of that is for corn. It is not required.
@@olavsantiago You don't need supplements, but both vegans and non-vegans do take them. Vegans and all people over 50 should take B12 which is very cheap.
@@NoExitLoveNow fertilisers are required for intensive agricultural systems, but with modern tech the application of fertilisers can be reduced with use of LIDAR and other sensor systems, as currently too much is being applied. Its killing our river systems
I wish he'd keep still!
I’m all for change like this, what I’m not for is vilifying the very people who have fed us over the centuries.
We will be asking farmers who’s one passion in life has been farming, and that tradition has been in some families for a very long time.
If we turn against farmers without doing everything possible to help them transition I’ll stand with the farmers.
Change matters, but so do people.
George covered that question in a different video. He said that the current subsidies for animal agriculture should go to the farmers to encourage them to take steps to make their land work to mitigate climate change. He said the farmers should take home more profit than the current system.
Let them grow vegetables and fruits and grains
If people matter then you should be for this. Plenty of jobs were shipped off abroad and have been automated, why should the farmers jobs be preserved?
@@KateFrancis-eo2rp I don’t care anymore.
Until big business take this seriously I’m not going to make my life harder by pushing for things that will break me financially.
So much feeling, so much generosity of spirit, so much love, so much money to be made by the elites, so much land to be grabbed by the elites, so much propaganda. Is this really genuine?
of course everything is a conspiracy nowadays
I feel like this deserves more than just a 6 minute video to explain the idea. It's sound and makes sense but in order to hammer the point home maybe it needs more examples of how cattle methane emissions worsen the GHG concentration in the atmosphere, or how the largest land-based carbon sink, the Amazon rain forest, is being bulldozed to allow for more and more of these grazing grounds.
There's a whole book to explain this idea and many others in huge detail.... wordery.com/regenesis-george-monbiot-9780241447642
He’s written a book about it. It’s referenced at the end of the film.
Loved this. Engaging and thought-provoking. Very cool.
your giving protein more importance than it needs
still i do not see the point of 10 billion people
No one is choosing that number.
@@michaelrch yet it is there - no one is discussing the problem, only the symptoms. Are we not a sentient species?
Monbiot doesn't even mention the possibility of land regeneration and carbon sequestration possible from regenerative agriculture, which can bring back topsoil much faster than simply abandoning the land.
He literally talks about this extensively in his book. Generally, it's good habit to not judge a person or idea based on one video on CZcams alone
Watch his debate with Allen savoury, he’s goes into it in detail! That’s a total myth ! Regenerative grazing is an oxymoron
You will eat -bugs- bacteria and you will be happy!
Thank God we won't have people arguing about soya causing men to turn into women (spoiler alert: it doesn't), let us just skip straight to bacteria themselves!
If it tastes good and has the right nutrition, I'll eat it.
Some popular foods are already made in bioreactors. For example wine, beer, bread, and cheese.
We already consume huge swathes of bacterially Cultured food. The war we have waged against microbes is causing an environmental crisis of its own. The health crisis in humans of gutted (literally) human microbiomes is crazy. We have waged war against organisms that we are entirely dependent on for good health and life because we deem a small handful of them cause disease. We need to reexamine the systems we create that mean our most intimate cohabitants engage in disease processes and turn against us.
fantastic summary, this transition needs to start asap.
At last someone says it .
No argument from me, George. It's an old concept you're suggesting, but one that has almost certainly reached its time to implement.
Amazing number of really stupid responses to this, which is very sad, as bodes very ill for us humans.
Almost the entire planet disagrees with you for a reason, if monbot was emperor of his socialist dystopia it would be hell on Earth.
@@imluvinyourmum why? You have no substantial answer
@@mjc01 What is your substantial answer to the vast majority of the global population that disagrees with ‘brewing meat’ as a food source and that national socialists were right all along?
@@imluvinyourmum Engage with the factual argument Monbiot is making. We are facing an existential threat and all you have is a petulant "don't like it". Grow up. Also wtf has this to do with National Socialism ie the Nazis? Don't waste my time by replying. TYHOOYA
Indeed
Our agricultural systems revolve around intensively-produced livestock, which needs to shift if we're going to stabilize climate and treat the planet and its animals sustainably and morally. That doesn't mean anyone needs to stop eating meat or dairy, just that the world needs to raise animals only in the densities appropriate to local ecosystems, therefore eat much less animal-source foods. The issue is not a dichotomous one. It's not all-or-nothing where meat & dairy are concerned, but it will require new thinking and more more plant-based eating.
Well said. Look to the local ecology and adapt to it.
Totally agree. Moderation in everything. Less factory farms, healthier animals, less meat, more locally grown food. It's about shifting our thinking, not rewriting everything.
If you read the book, you will see that having pasture-fed livestock is simply not possible. We would all eat 1 steak every 3 years if we needed that much land lol
We still have to reduce the population in addition to consumption and animal agriculture. That’s the main thing I always disagree with George on.
How many do you think should die?
@@cogitoergotsum No one. It’s about how many shouldn’t be born. But you knew that and you still decided to write your stupid troll comment anyway. Go and do something useful, you fool.
Are you volunteering for the cull?
@@ChrisPage68 See my above reply to the first clown to ask the same thing.
@@christill If you're advocating for something it's best not to call those who disagree "clowns".
Does Monbiot realise that this huge facility producing synthetic food was part of the basic premise of the Bladerunner universe? Seems like legit environmentalism to me.
That’s all you’ve got to say after every point that’s been made in this video…
Chestnuts are a phenomenal food source if we put in our effort to develop them. Ecologist Alan Savory has some phenomenal talks on this. CAFO’s need to stop.
So true people are so conditioned to eat meat going all the way back to the ice age
And half of them would have been dead by the age of 15. The advent of sanitation and vaccines allowed most children to survive into adulthood. Now there is a population of 8 billion, which is far too high. That is why a change is needed.
The world's literally flipping flipping right now, people, listen to Mr. Monbiot!
I love beer
beer is good
bring it on
Yes, bacteria ferments beer. Accharomyces. Saccharomyces, commonly known as brewer's yeast, is the single genus of yeast responsible for fermenting all clean beers, but is also used in sour beer production.
@@StandingLeaf Lovin it - soon i'm off to westvleteren
So, we get rid of all farmed animals........what will happen to all the wild animals? Answer, they will be eaten by all those who want to eat meat. In Africa it’s called ‘bushmeat’. I’m not saying that things should not change but.........
The message of this video painfully simple, but I think humans are far too stubborn. This is a species that values Joe rogans opinion...
Thank you George, I got the message.
What a complete spanner
So you think people who don't eat meat are spanners?
Some intelligent, widely admired people who chose not to eat meat- Pythagoras, Socrates, Leonardo da Vinci, Voltaire, Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Albert Schweitzer, George Bernard Shaw, Tolstoy, Thoreau, Saint Francis of Asisi, Nobel laureate and holocaust survivor Isaac Bashevis Singer, and many more. Some on this list switched late in life, but stayed on it to the end. Ben Franklin switched at age 16.
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." -Einstein (Of course today, he would be vegan. So would the others on this list.)
The famous Professor of Physics Brian Greene is vegan. You may have seen him on PBS hosting science shows for the layman. Jane Goodall recently went from a long time vegetarian to vegan. Greta Thunberg is vegan. Jon (Daily Show) Stewart is not only vegan, he owns a farm animal sanctuary! Wikipedia has a more complete list.
@@someguy2135 Not what I said is it. I have no problem with those that do not eat meat, only those that tell others not to.
@@JamesBalmforth Veganism is an important issue. It wouldn't solve climate change, but it is the most effective way each of us can minimize our environmental footprint. A fully plant based diet wouldn't end zoonotic diseases, pandemics, and epidemics, but it would make them much less likely. It wouldn't end the threat of new antibiotic resistant pathogens, but due to standard practices in animal agriculture, it would reduce it. It wouldn't solve the fresh water crisis, but it would help. Each vegan saves 219,000 gallons a year. A switch to a fully plant based food system would feed millions more people and save 75% of the land now used for producing food. That freed up land would let us plant a lot of trees to absorb CO2. A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1.5 trillion in health care costs (Oxford Study) Add all these together, and if true, most people would agree that it is an important issue.
That being the case, wouldn't publicly advocating for veganism be the right thing to do? If you lived in the US before the civil war, would you settle for just not owning slaves? If you were around during the effort to allow women to vote, wouldn't you try to convince others to support it?
@@someguy2135 No, veganism is not "the right thing to do". We have evolved eating meat, it is extremely good for us and contains nutrients hard to find elsewhere. Trying to relate meat eating with slave owning only makes you look childish and is the result of you lacking more rational analogies. The simple fact is there are too many people on the planet, and with proper education on this matter and the right incentives, the human population could be reduced to sustainable levels, and all the problems you mention could be solved.
No mention of financial cost in shops at all? Not putting a price on averting climate catastrophe but if they could make it loads cheaper now let’s get it in the shops already and it’ll out compete meat regardless of current livestock subsidies.
It's still in R&D but that is the plan. In principle the other significant cost is energy which they are getting from solar and wind power.
There are plenty of people who are happy with gm products. I'm not one of them, but that's largely because of who makes them, what they are modified to do (mostly roundup ready). In a world where animal agriculture has ceased,being vegan will continue to be environmentally viable. Completely changing the agricultural system to have it oriented towards directly feeding plants to humans, means that permaculture, diversity of crops, soil care small holdings , small fields and return of hedgerows and copses etc, home grown food, all make a contribution. You're not going to live on protein and fat alone. This is part of a viable solution and those who object to gm products can continue to avoid them. In fact it will probably be easier. I'm not sure myself, if the reasons I currently object to gm products will be included in this one. It's a heuristic I use that will be worth re-examining
It is not about GM, which shows that you missed the point and substance of this vidio completely. What a Shame!
A lot of people who are vegan and environmentally conscious and subscribe to George's arguments here are quite likely the same demographic who object to GM products. Mostly I am one of them. It's a heuristic though. Up to now a fairly reliable one, since Monsanto dominate GM production of foods. This could be a problem in promoting GM bacteria fermented proteins and fats. If the people who are front line activists in promoting veganism for the environment object, then it doesn't stand a chance. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that ending animal agriculture and diversifying plant agriculture is sufficient to feed the world and rewild a large enough % of current agricultural land to have an impact that reverses climate change. Also important to end the fishing industries and rescue the oceans. Healthy seas and ecosystems are significant carbon sinks and still underpin life on land, so vitally important.
I support people like Paul Stamets and Merlin Sheldrake. When you look at where we place ourselves in nutrient cycles and food chains and webs, not only being primary consumers but placing ourselves next to the saprophytic part of these life cycles helps to enable flows and promote fungi and other saprophytes as vital parts for restabilizing ecosystems and soils.
I actually see a lot of potential for these fermented foods, but I think they are a hard sell.
I think, as a very skilled journalist, George has a uniquely brilliant way of explaining things, but he's not a popular public figure. As you can see from the comments here, he is deemed an extreme flaky lefty radical. If he is, it's what's needed.
As I said I don't see all our protein and fats coming from fermentation vats. I think it's probably a good addition. But I think completely new and reduced forms of plant agriculture will be necessary and in themselves will significantly impact climate change.
The very real problem is that there is not the will to make the changes.
And if those who want the changes just sneer, snipe and infight, then what hope is there? A very rude ,ignorant and unnecessarily straw man comment.
I presume it's not in production or it would already be being tested on consumers on the supermarket shelves. You could have it as a climate responsible alternative to farmed meat. Plenty of people would switch to it, especially if it tastes as good as the real thing. So just do it. I prefer that to the suggestion we are all going to have to start eating insects.
It should be on shelves next year in Finland at least what I've understood
@@dimmazeen cool :-)
So what it's theirplanet toowoomba I suggest humansstop breeding
I suggest you stop raving, and begin spacing.
Wow, this was excellent.
we mericans don't give a snot about anything cept the price at the pump. f the environment.
Oh George
I wish everyone could watch this. Please stop eating animals everyone.
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