Gravitas: WhatsApp threatens to leave India; Can Zuckerberg afford this?
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
- WhatsApp is threatening to leave India. It has moved the Delhi High Court. WhatsApp is challenging India's 2021 Information Technology Rules. It told the court, 'If we are told to break encryption, then WhatsApp goes'. Can WhatsApp afford to exit India?
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If it leaves India, Billion and Billions of hours of Indian youths will be saved.
They still have CZcams and Netflix.
They may talk to their friends and family less though. Who knows.
Instagram is for talking to friends. But younger people don't like being on the same social networks as their parents and having to friend them on those. lol
So maybe they'll just talk to their families less.
@@Leto2ndAtreidesthere will be alternatives application and people will soon forget. I believe it is win win situation
They'll return to gathering along roadside watching cows pass by. That's progress.
@@k.k.c8670the same roads where we display Pakistani tanks as trophies 😂😂😂
Good thing... first' shut down and get lost 😂
With WhatsApp you can take Instagram and Facebook with you👍
true youth will start to work
@@iyeraishu1 it will be replaced by something else do you really think that would happen
@@darkvader125 i don't think it is that easy to replace, because only youtube will exist then
@@adityasalunkhe1288 what i am saying is that if that person is saying that youth will work without apps is completely a vauge statment as a Indian youth repacing such apps are nightmare because my whole newly started business will hamper a lot
@@adityasalunkhe1288 that is what i am trying to say as well
India can replace WhatsApp,
But Whatsapp can never replace India & one billion users
💯👏👏👏
Desi apps will take it's place. Don't worry. WhatsApp takes all the data and use it against the country. There is no doubt about it.
Everything problem here recently not friendly
Signal 💪🏻
Tiktok got banned none have replaced it till now all tried but all failed
Please leave. Big relief from so many whatsapp groups in office.
Much needed.
Was thinking same😅
😂😂😂 these groups are a nuisance 🎉
Leave India no problem
I think you don't have a brain.... Because that's most helpful platform to share a datas.... You are a boomer then how to know the the platforms😅😅😅
Leave the world no problem
Leave the universe 🌌
No problem
India will collapse in 10 seconds
Leave the galaxy
No problem 👍
Mark thinks he can easily threaten India like what he did with US senate.
Chat privacy its important
@@funfire3629 come on privacy should be accepted only if it is responsible and today's world their is no responsibility.
He's an Idiot 😂
Come back to India. Bhakts like you should not be staying abroad
@@sosheeanand3537
Indians have the right to confidential communication (aka privacy) which is not absolute.
My question is where do you draw the line?
Good if WhatsApp leaves India!
Ha
What do we have in place of that?
@@philipeisenberg6984 World never stops.
@@philipeisenberg6984You know what replaced TikTok😅
India can definitely replace WhatsApp,
But WhatsApp can't replace 400+ million user base of India.
What is WhatsApp's policy on the same issue with FBI, CIA, Courts of USA etc?
FBI, CIA do their own hacking & no questions asked😅
@@qpr543Yeah true, they just take whatever they want and not even ask the platform
@@alok.01so what does india do
@@eggbenedict-gt7mw They request WhatsApp for the info as per law. And I don't think WhatsApp has any ground to defend, it's their responsibility to make sure the platform is safe. Also they don't really have to keep every message and just the source of those which have been forwarded multiple times, anyways WhatsApp already keeps track of the message (not user) if it's been heavily forwarded they just don't want to give the source of it to the law enforcement.
It's not about WhatsApp. It's about privacy. If WhatsApp gives up end to end encryption then we'll be more vulnerable to cyber attacks. Anyone can spy on us. The government Including terrorists for that matter.
If any other company comes forward, supposed if WhatsApp leaves. This means that they will not be able to protect our privacy. 400 million users privacy getting exposed is no joke.
Follow our law...else leave ❤
Only cows are above our laws 😋
Of course
If Zuckerberg can shout Bharat Mata ki jai or Jai Sriram before elections... Then our govt can take back the case!
@@azmanhamid4569 first cousins too.
@@azmanhamid4569Muzlims 😂 are in fear 😂
Let them leave india. People are wasting there time in WhatsApp. Some other company can take there place.
People have always wasted time. Wasting time on WhatsApp is probably more useful than wasting time on Cricket.
Please leave asap
Why dont you uninstall it first
@@Lifehaakswait, you can detect the activities of different user's handsets...?!
With Whatsapp and Instagram gone...the productivity of India youth will Increase!!
It's better to stop Instagram,WhatsApp,Face book and government should start it's own Educational programs
Already running successfully as WhatsApp University
Already running successfully as WhatsApp University
Chai n Pakoda making educational programs?? 🤣🤣🤣
@@crusaderrulezAnd here is a German shepherd fan, the one whom you are calling with such names is the PM of our Country, it's fine if you challange his policies or the way he works, you have the right to do so, but what would you gain by calling him such names, it just showa your education level. BTW he has done BA in political science from DU.
And if you are calling me as an andhbhakt, there is no point in it, BJP makes a lot of mistakes, I never refute that, and it is making democratic election a joke, but I support it because of development and policies.
@@HarshRaj-px9se And here is a Desi kutta fan...hehehe.. I never called anyone any names ? Terko ko be PM ke tarah zyada sunai deta kya? You are wrong... or are u trolling him regarding his degree?.. As per his degree. It says he has done "BA in ENTIRE POLITICAL SCIENCE"...Hehehehe.. That University has no such course.. I think Amith Shah deliberately displayed that certificate to put him down.. Another Interesting fact, There are no students who studied in his class neither are there any teachers who taught him.. lol.. He himself says that upto 30-35 yrs he was begging n living on alms. In between when did he get his degree i wonder 🤔. The station where he claimed to sell tea never existed during that time. He claimed ti have taken digital photo during a time when digital cameras dint exist.. He claimed to have send that photo via email when emails never existed.. lol.. Seems more like a pathological liar to me.. Lets not even talk about development..
leave immediately.
We will use cows urine.
It's not about WhatsApp. It's about privacy. If WhatsApp gives up end to end encryption then we'll be more vulnerable to cyber attacks. Anyone can spy on us. The government Including terrorists for that matter.
If any other company comes forward, supposed if WhatsApp leaves. This means that they will not be able to protect our privacy. 400 million users privacy getting exposed is no joke.
Leave us, it will be better without it
Zuckerberg, we Indians know thst you cannot leave India... hear from Suzuki Motors and Coco Cola. First hand
Itna ego thik nahi. ‘main main main sirf main sirf main main hi hun’ Din raat subah shaam yehi har jagah dekhta hun. Indians ka ego saatve aasman par hai for no reason. Humbleness goes a long way.
Ego hoga ita user Jo hai tu ata mang Kam karle Pakistan i@@AjaySR56789
The 500 million Indian users generated a "revenue" of $1 billion over 2023... And for many years before, WhatsApp just provided the service for free with no earnings.
How much do you think those servers cost? What about the people employed in India?
Losing WhatsApp is more of a loss for India, than losing India is a loss for WhatsApp.
You think foreigners will install Indian messenger apps that only exist so that the Indian government can spy on people?
Exactly.... Suzuki India makret cap is more than suzuki global even though suzuki India is just a subsidiary of suzuki Japan global.. 😂
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook/meta(for Amazon india is second biggest market after usa) can't threaten India because India has majority of its customers and India also provides techie/engineers/bpo(customer swrvice/call center) for cheap price... The only country that can rival India in talent pool is China and they rather create their own meta than work for your dumbarse... 😂
Leave India, Whatsapp, no problem. Ambani or Adani will fill that gap with Bharath made chatting App. Don't dare to threaten Modi's Bharath like how you threatened US Senate.
We seen it when before ban app honestly say we could not do quality one
We want WhatsApp we dont want pathajali like Indian WhatsApp
@@jackrawlingzz9278whatsapp is already notorious for data sharing... mate 😂 especially in WhatsApp business...rather use pathajali than WhatsApp
What's up stands for privacy of citizens that government denying for...
Before understanding, please don't comment
It's not about WhatsApp. It's about privacy. If WhatsApp gives up end to end encryption then we'll be more vulnerable to cyber attacks. Anyone can spy on us . The government Including terrorists for that matter.
If any other company comes forward , supposed if WhatsApp leaves. This means that they will not be able to protect our privacy. 400 million users privacy getting exposed is no joke.
Let them leave if they do not agree to the conditions of the India govt.
We lived without WhatsApp 10years back. We sure can now. WhatsApp can't afford to move out because they know they'll be replaced in an instant
Doesn't make enough money in India to be worth the hassle frankly. It's honestly more like a charity project.
And now they're even fighting to protect Indian citizens from government overreach.
Lol didn't you see the number there is no freaking way it can afford to leave India, and protecting what right? Didn't you hear the news about sharing data with their own parent company, where are rights then?. Hypocrisy at its peak lol
Hope Whatsapp leaves India soon
the you have to pay for messages will you ? hahaha
I already left it, I just text offline and I make phone calls. Privacy was not the reason, I had different reasons.
@@krishhunt47 then the trend is countries are going to have created their own domestic version for their citizen like china does or the world population goes back to pay for peer to peer international communication and messaging
Encrypted message & privacy is important..
Not for Terrorists, Frauds and other Criminal Elements.
@@_wokeweaklingscryoverwords_ yes..so it's 50/50.
@_wokeweaklingscryoverwords_ doesn't mean everyone should loose their privacy coz of the few
@@ezravldina3467 exactly💯
Privacy of individuals messages is the right for each Individual,, how somebody read special messages or privately messages,,.
Facebook pehle ban karwao phir reels and shorts, chappri are increasing due to this 😂
If privacy is made public then we the general public should also be allowed to publicly view how much funds of our tax money is being spend where. Are they spend for development or being used in corruption to fill up the pockets of politicians.
Yes
WhatsApp, Facebook, and Instagram leaving India will be a big loss for politicians and celebrities 😂
Very good. You can leave at the earliest, so please don't take too much time to get out of India. At least we can start cyber-dieting and youth will get more time to improve their health. If there is no WhatsApp, new apps will sprout, don't worry Zucker you can say goodbye from India whenever you wish.
leave asap WhatsApp, nobody worries about or we will ban like tiktok😂😂😂
Recently we face unknown massages, groups, spam number call and massage, etc.
Massage??😅😅
Gonna be even worse with new apps that have inferior security features.
Funny you say that. I didn't get that issue with discord. At all.
@@Leto2ndAtreideswhat security feature, damn application is not even Indian. Your data is with foreign company 😂
Their exit would help raise kids in a much safer and healthier environment.
What will happen to Whatsapp University? I've heard that a lot of people have studied there. India can start a new app named "Mitron". This way, we don't need any technology from the US. Let Meta, Amazon, Google, Apple and other American tech companies quit India.
Do you really think before wring a comment bro? You mentioned "This way, we don't need any technology from the US". What a stupid comment. DO you have any idea about how many foreign tech companies are actually therei n India and how much money Inidan Govt is making from the person who works in those companies Just search in Google.
in India only 7% people pay direct tax and within those a very majority of enployee who pay 30% tax are from Tech or IT company. If these companies leave India, my friend you have no idea how much it will impact in India's job market.
So, my advive to you is don't directly believe if someone says, think understand and then make your judgement,
What difference would it make if you replaced US software? You'd still be running on US / Korean / Chinese hardware...
And you'd be wasting a lot of money to build the new thing that could've instead been used on something useful.
India does not need whatsapp.
I dont use it. I deleted it. I deactivate facebook and messenger too.
No one cares
also delete youtube
Also delete utube run@di
Yeah delete Google entirely. Or restrict the accounts and delete them every 12 months.
It's not about WhatsApp. It's about privacy. If WhatsApp gives up end to end encryption then we'll be more vulnerable to cyber attacks. Anyone can spy on us. The government Including terrorists for that matter.
If any other company comes forward, supposed if WhatsApp leaves. This means that they will not be able to protect our privacy. 400 million users privacy getting exposed is no joke.
WhatsApp, Facebook, X, CZcams and Google must leave India. Only then, Indian start-ups will be able to build Indian version apps.
You're correct. India will have products like Patanjali.
@mohdmohsin2803 we know why you say this. And america welcomes you 🤣
@@mohdmohsin2803 lol😂 exactly.
@mohdmohsin2803 correct..even my family stopped using Colgate long back instead using Patanjali toothpaste...why to give company to these companies.
To sell their weapon to all over world and make each countries fight each other..you can see situation of gulf countries Iran, Iraq,Syria afganistan...what's your say on this??
No problem. We can improve unlike Pakistan which doesn't even develop anything. I know you're Indian but, saying it to you Coz you both share same mentality.@@mohdmohsin2803
Leave immediately leave please leave
If our chats are encrypted, the how Facebook ads show us same advertisements tha we typed on WhatsApp chat.
U got this information from whatsapp university ??? lol..Facebook uses browsing history not whatsapp chat.
@@crusaderrulezif you really believe that then I pity your education.
@@rajendervallapureddy1564 What is there to believe? These are facts..If they were doing that then they would already have been sued in western countries if not in India..
@@rajendervallapureddy1564 BTW.. How is facebook gonna know what u need using whats app ? If u need a shoe, then will you search for it on google or on whatsapp ? You need a car, u need a shirt, u need a bla bla bla.. where u search ? Whatsapp ka data lekar kya achar dalega facebook ?
@@crusaderruleznigga do you think meta is that stupid of acquiring whatsapp with over of $20 billion without any use? , do you think mark Zuckerberg is a stupid who provide free chatting services without charging even single penny or advertising in WhatsApp all they need is data, and even if you agree or not they collect data of whatsapp users, ex: previously they said that they gonna share Data of whatsapp to meta check the facts don't be clown 🤡
Whatsapp doesnt even have the guts to leave India.. They can just do rhetoric in courts.
Whatsapp needs India more than India needs Wharsapp.
Country first!!
Pls leave ... I beg whatapp to leave ... then I can peacefully use signal or any other alternative
Hehehehe.... Signal is more stringent about privacy than whatsapp.. I will not use any app that compromises privacy..
You can use signal now as well.
Ha ha, their business may collapse... Paper Tiger!!
Seriously people are supporting the government.... Privacy is not a joke... Kindly think in a boarder perspective...... There are various other ways to access information if there is any mishappening... You can't risk billions of people privacy for this
India can replace WhatsApp, but WhatsApp cannot replace India (market size)
It’s not about who is greater in making apps.. it’s about your privacy, it’s your rights.. it’s equal to keeping camera inside your house.. and give access to public view
Security of nation is higher than your privacy. Only weird folks are worried about chat privacy. That makes me suspicious of folks like you. What you have to hide exactly?
As china did, India should quickly have its own and PM will give a good name...
Its not about who can afford this, its about following law. And its better for gen z😂
Whatsapp plz leave India 🇮🇳
Else follow the law.
Leave, Along with WhatsApp, go with Facebook and Instagram also.
people also forget that govt could misuse this for cracking down journalists and oppositions. Its a lose-lose situation at the end
First originator messages is all - IT government agencies care about. And that can be easily searched in databases and logs. So this argument about privacy, encryption is invalid and What's App should just comply with the new rules.
As a programmer, If I need to trace senders we must store data, and if data is stored there is a possibility to misuse of these datas n in case of data breach you can't blame anyone else and this is not just a privacy matter of any individual but it is also leads to national security issue bcoz the WhatsApp is used by almost every person in India and the world as well including military and other people involved in national security. Imagine, what if their data would be in hand of criminals, there and their family life will be in danger and it might also be the open door for other kind of crimes. So beware while making such kind of laws.
U are saying like meta isnt already storing our data and selling it.
@@Furrina89Selling to only Businessmen. Then why govt needs to snoop
@@Furrina89 Yes.. Its storing but not the way u think.. It stores for you to retrieve n keep backup of ur data not for others to access or retrieve it..
Do you really think that Defence forces uses WhatsApp😂
@@stormtroopers1 undoubtedly! are they not have their own life (family n frnds) other than their duties?
Come out from the well dear. Then the picture will be clear to u.
My life with Whatsapp -> Lot of family/friends/business groups -> Good morning messages/ads -> Now muted all.
My life without Whatsapp -> Lof of Family contact numbers -> How are you . conversations once in a while... -> feeling good -> No need to Mute anyone.. Just simple & easy life with true face.
These things are better understood for their system level effects than for individual effects.
Like, how much business communication gets done on WhatsApp. Or how many people talk to people internationally via WhatsApp.
Of course, time is also wasted. But when you're bored, you'll waste time on one thing or the other.
Every country is gonna ask WhatsApp to decrypt the voice, text when a crime happens sooner or later, how many countries will WhatsApp threaten to leave?
On the other hand, governments can misuse it if whatsapp allows government agencies to access information. At least in our country, agencies automatically become puppets of the party in power….They may use it to keep a track on every message sent and received…. By opposition leaders and perhaps even on influential people…Just like CCP does in china…
In other way, Modi Sarkar introduced a new Finance Bill named it as “Electoral Bond” where The money given to Political Parties will not be disclosed the Citizens of India. Because disclosure will violate the Donors Privacy 😂.. where India is the 1st largest populous country.
Modi haters spotted. Brain dead as usual
Might be Rahul Gandhi will give you the details
Much awaited exit.. Just get out META!!
its time to promote Indian apps to balance this in future.
Ok. Thank you for your services.
Thank you Whatsapp for standing for protecting the privacy of people of India. We will respect you forever for this even if you close your operations in India.
Goodbye whatsApp
Can we have a local similar to Whatapp message center purely india base?
Government wont use it for that purpose, it will ask information for users who unmasks the evil what political parties or politicians do thats the issue. I stand with whatts app.
All these being in favour of overruling users privacy is appalling. Privacy must be protected.
Better BJP should leave India first
When China can live without these Western origin apps, why not we?
Bruh, they are doing it fine here in USA.
No, they aren't. WhatsApp is private.
The NSA can't magically get in where there's no way to get in... Which they've never been happy about.
Of course, in some cases, they can pull some shenanigans to compromise your phone altogether.
In which case, it doesn't matter how secure your messaging apps are.
Good decision by meta. 🎉🎉India is no longer a free speech country.
Yes. Please leave ASAP. 🙏🏻
😂
WhatsApp is not a money cow... So no loss for zuck... He should quit so that Indians have better work to do rather than addicted to apps
You did not say much about ' what happens if WhatsApp leaves India ' in terms of its share price !.
Telegram will take its place.
Telegram encrypts user data. Will India ask telegram to break it's standard procedures? All major platforms encrypt user data.
Im definitely not trusting government backed social media platforms infected with government spyware
We accept new policy...sequrity is our primary concern
Pack up and off you go!!!!
Hypocritic American tech companies are bullying India. High time Bharat gets it's own platforms, what with millions of Techies and hundreds of IT CEOs, globally.
Looks like BJP IT cell failed to decrypt whatsApp messages of opposition 😂
I used to like wion but this news sounds manipulating the wahtapp company is right not the other way around about end to end encryption
Whatsapp is right. ✅We dont want govt to read personal conversations and use it for personal use. This law is like north korea
Again, we need more transparency, on one hand we need the NIA to act immediately if it concerns national security but what else can be done with the data? Can this be used to get data on Indian citizens? If so then on what basis? Is it after a Case is heard in court so the courts get the final say to release information? While this is urgently needed to fight terrorism it can also be misused so we need to see the fine print
Living in USA?
Good reporter.....atlast...❤
Whatsapp is right. Privacy encryption is customer right. If WhatsApp allow authorities to access then authorities can misuse data. As seen lately.
We can create another WhatsApp but cannot bring FDI confidence.
Also iPhone will have to go , as unlocking rights are with apple only
High time Indian entrepreneurs build messaging apps and courts direct WhatsApp to leave.
Just because you can use it for free doesn't mean that it's actually free to run.
Unless you plan to pay, you're talking ads.
So you're going from complete privacy to no privacy. lol
Plus, it took years for Facebook to mature its privacy systems and stop embarrassing itself. You should expect some major breaches form your new apps.
Barking aloud wont help them much. They can exist if they want. India can definitely come up with something better
India should have own messaging app sorry it already have called koo . Plz Indians promote indian apps & products. Ban WhatsApp, Instagram.
If they don't know what is being sent, how do they know that a message has been forwarded multiple times?
India should have its own platform!! It will make more than that if India makes its own
Privacy is necessary. Guddos to Meta for standing their ground.
Privacy is necessary but not on the cost of national security
ban all the american apps and then see what happens in india.
Has WHATSAPP😂 UNIVERSITY backfired on this government.......???
Surprised no one here values privacy!!
Maybe the congress maybe right all along with how the government is behaving
Meta cares about encryption? That's april fool...
Thats the right question.
If Whatsapp cannot provide the information behind the culprit then own the responsibility and pay for all the damage done for spreading false information. PERIOD.
INDIAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD LAUNCH THEIR OWN WHATSAPP.
Who cares if WhatsApp or Facebook or Instagram leaves India. Many of us don't care.
😂😂
I just witnessed if you try to block a channel which is aganist indians feelings but the western like it then again the channel appeared in in front of you aganist your consern 😢😢so sad 😊we have to make new startups which has potential to challange this 😊
No problem let them exit
The govt should use this opportunity and make Whatsapp leave India.
WhatsApp has to comply with local rules or exit market.
Local alternative to WhatsApp are easy to develop and deploy
When what's app and facebook will leave india.. Indian youth will do wonderful progress....and they will get real happiness instead of artificial....
Watsapp should not leave India.Why courts are intruding into public policies or govt ignoring public interest ?
If required govt should come forward with some rules within limits of Indian constitutional and culture
Lol so no one thinks this is a pure china type thing to do
We people will live happily
No.. Before you Leak privacy data. You show such anger, publicly.. win trust.. and then,.. release data secretly.. 😂😂
Then political parties uploading and updating the government development work on social media is also threaten to the system
Good job whatsup I salute your courage be brave stand up to dictatorship in India
Finally the decision will boil down to revenue vs expense. Although, the subscriber number is very high in India, the average revenue per user is less. So, it may not be a loss for Meta as well.. for indians, they don't lose as there is no dearth of messaging apps. Whatsapp does not have major competetive advantage against it's rivals.
Indian companies should fill the gap of Facebook, instagram, WhatsApp, youtube and other American apps