This time it's Deos... [video 565]
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- If you’re in the market for an 80x133 sized orbital sander - and there are plenty of reasons why you might be - you’d have found the choices to be pretty modest - until now. In this one I take a ‘first look’ at the DAS 151PS orbital sander, a ‘Deos-alike’ from manufacturer Sealey. Enjoy!
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Oooh, you are a tease Peter, new project coming and a reveal of new equipment - always leave them wanting more ! 😉
Will be interested to hear more about your views of the sander when you've got some miles in !
Bosch also do cordless 80x133mm sanders GSS 12v & 18v.
I love my Sealey 155 random orbital Peter and this looks like a sibling of very great interest, excellent as always.
My old 150mm Makita work-horse went all lumpy on me this week. While my mind jumped to prospective replacements, my fingers started to disassemble Dobbin and after a few puffs of compressed air and reassembly, he was spared the knackery. Now I will spend the sander pennies on something else... Three guesses what happens then.
The Bosch GSS is also available as 12V battery with that size ground plate (and some others). Light, with a dustbag. Ideal for smaller jobs. (GSS 12V-13)
The Bosch GSS 18V-10 also comes with a 80x133 pad base (interchangeable with a Festool-sized delta base and a 1/4 sheet base). I really like it.
I am a DIY Woodworker, nothing commercial, but I have been upgrading my tools in the past few years. Last year I wanted to up my sanding gear and found one of your videos about a cheap sander. There seems to be quite a few sanders available online that look almost identical to high end expensive brands, but at a fraction the price. The branding seems to be different based on your country too as i can find the same looking sanders, just under different names. I bought one of them last year, a Mirka clone for under $200 and I have been very pleased with it so far. I will give these and look also. Thanks for the videos!
Awesome looking tools, Peter! 😃
Looking forward to the long term review!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
OK. That Sealey is my birthday present in April - 4th anniversary of heart attack, 69th since born. It's exactly what I want for refurbishing some old furniture. Love my little 3.6V Sealey screwdriver
Looks like a good machine. I’ve been toying with the sealey for a while and will probably go for it at some point. Thanks for the review
Thanks Peter for the explanation of sandpaper sheet sizes, it's always baffled me and to some extent it still does that I often end up with silly little strips left over after cutting a sheet down to fit sanding blocks and pads. There's just a lot of nonsensical size pads and blocks out there by the looks of it!
Not quite the size but close is the surfprep 3x4
Hi 👋 , Peter , interesting sanders , it is surprising what is on the market nowadays, as I have been retired for the last 6/7. years, I must head that I was forced into retirement, Needless to say, I now live by myself, and I do what I want when I want to do it and how I want to do it, and watch whatever I like when I want to watch it, I find woodworking programs like yourself interesting,
A few years ago, I had a contract to make 18 oak windows , And found some of them difficult to sand , so I purchased a festool , LS 130 EQ Plus, kit , this is a linear sander, Excellent piece of kit, to get into corners where you cannot get normally with any other machine apart from using freehand, And yes, going to the other extreme, I’ve got their half sheet sander as well, RS2E plus,
😂 I now have these tools hanging on the wall as pieces of art, 🖼️ 😂, and sculpture, and the same with some Mafell tools as well,
Thanks! Yes, I had the linear sander back when I was doing a lot of window prep as well! Great machine, but of limited appeal for general purpose sanding! 👍
just seen one of these on amazon uk same as sealey under the brand pioneer works for £129.99
Thank you Peter, yep, that old short cable thing and the paddle thing! Hope you're well, stay lucky cheers
Thanks, you too!😂👍
The cable misers strike again!
I have the Bosch and I love it.
Me too👍
Peter watch out for that condition: Digito-sanderos-crampus !! 😅
Had a look online for said sander and come across the same sander as you are reviewing Peter , yet branded under a different name pioneer works on Amazon. For £129 !
I've just been looking at the bosch GSS 18v 13. Seems a recent offering in their orbital line up. Low profile, no paddle, speed control and looks like it has a meaningful extraction port. Think I'll get one as I have 18v bats. They do a 12v version but it doesn't look as well made - no metal chassis. 👍
Interesting, thanks Stew! I don’t have much in the way of cordless anything other than drills and a 12v saw, but I like the idea of cordless sanders; just waiting for the hoseless vac! 😂👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop 😂😂 Hoseless vac for the win! For some reason, bosch aren't offering their lo-pro Sanders as corded 🤷♂️
I got both and no worries about the 12v one. About same runtime per Ah, just smaller and lighter.
That Sealey looks the exact same model as the PioneerWorks one, albeit more than double the price.
Good shout, thanks - never heard of them! 👍
Even though Festool produces all "Rutscher" (Palm Sander?) With the exception of the Rts400... I'm staying true to that. I have the RTSC400 and the Mafell sander, with twice the sanding surface of a six inch orbital sander.
And various other grinders.
6:08 that's what she said! That's what she said!
Couldn't resist it, please don't kick me off.
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Router and sander obsession Peter……. 😂
It seems quite expensive for a sealy product. Bosch blue three year guarantee would steer me down that route along with availability of spares.
Having said this it will be interesting to see how the next 12 months goes using it 👍🏻
Thanks for the overview Peter. I'm really hoping festool releases a new rts 400 with a brushless motor and ets ec 150 form factor at some point. I'd buy it the second it releases.
Me too! 👍
looks good, you mentioned the bosch vibration was too much, but didnt really mention the vibration on the sealey - is it the same as the 5" (i got on your recommendation and its been great)?
I haven't used it for long enough to really test it, but if anything I'd say it's smoother then the larger Sealey. 👍
I picked up the Bosch 12v BOSCH GSS 12 V-13 Which has a switching pad size. You get the 133x 88 rectangle (Festool) size and then the 100 x 150 mm delta pad (also Festool size). It’s fantastic - I paid about £130 for the complete kit on a special offer, but I think it’s normally about £200.
I also have the Bosch 12v 125mm random orbital - this is a fabulous tool, which has amazing dust collection (in fact, even on minimum power, my midi is too powerful for it!) but mine tends to turn off randomly (fixed by removing battery and re-inserting). It’s my preferred sander for repairing walls/filler as it’s so light :)
Just to add, both have lovely fine orbits so great for finish work.
I got them 18V 😁
GSS 18V 10 can use 80x133 sheets
GSS 18V - 10 (cordless) or GSS 160 Multi can handle the 80x133 sheets
I love my festool 400 battery/ mains power sander, so versatile.
The cordless ones are interesting because they are brushless and have updated ergonomics compared to the corded ones, but there's hardly any mention of that on the Festool site. I don't really like how the corded ones feel, but the cordless ones feel pretty nice.
Hi Peter, I do like my Bosch and Black and Decker orbital sanders plus my Black and Decker Mouse sander. As always do value your honest opinion on these tool reviews, Great video Take care
P.s. Whats in the box............
Thanks Shaun, you too! 👍
Can you get the SurfPrep sanders (and extractor) in the UK? Would you consider testing those. I’ve very torn between SP & FT.🙄
Thanks! No, it’s. It a brand we get here unfortunately. 🤷♂️👍
Hi Peter. Do you have any preferences for which consumables to use with the 2 Sealey sanders?
I’m pretty ambivalent about abrasives tbh - it’s just sandpaper, right…- but I have been enjoying the latest Mirka Ultimax Ligno on my woodwork. Good stuff. 👍
Seems the Festool RTS 400 is still the winner out of all these various copy cat machines, especially considering the marginal price difference of only £150. The environment and wallet doesn't want to hear the old adage of "buy cheap, buy twice", which I feel will almost certainly be the case with these frankly overpriced knock-offs. Appreciate you taking the dive and giving them a good testing to save others the hassle though Peter.
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SurfPrep makes an orbital sander with a pad of 3 inches x 4 inches (~ 76mm x 102mm).
Thanks! If they ever sell them outside the US I’ll take a look. 👍
Bosch gss12-13 and Bosch gss18-13 have a look at those.
Same pad size as rts400 and you get bonus pads too. Cordless and brushes, excellent!
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Excuse my ignorance, why do I need a sander like this? I use a belt sander, 125mm random orbit (90% of work) and a mouse style sander for tricky corners. I honestly thought ⅓ sheet orbital sanders were a thing of the past.
At the risk of stating the obvious, if you’re happy with what a belt sander, 5” RO and mouse provide, then you don’t. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks for clarifying. Does a orbital not leave scratches in the finished work? I have seen them described as “finishing sanders” and I’m not sure where the advantage over a RO is.
Finishing with the mystery box is just cruel. What a tease.
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How come you don't find the Festool RTS 400 comfortable anymore?
I have some hand / grip issues and sadly they just don’t work for me any more. 🤷♂️👍
I suppose it doesn't come in a container/box? Just cardboard?
Just the carton. 👍
O no, the flickering lights. With new low wattage, not enough energy for the switch??? It may be a good idea to get an up to date electrician to help. It is a big new subject. With your house build, you probable have been dealing with.
Dust free switches😂
Thanks, but it’s to do with the phasing, the shutter speed, the LED driver, age of the panels etc.. etc.. No sparky needed here. 👍
“ opening the box in the next video” ….!!!!! Might have to change your name to “ PHINEAS” ( Taylor Barnum )….. what a tease!!
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