Hi Bo, I have to thank you from the bottom of my heart because no one else does it as you explain, so I have to say thank you, thank you, thank you so much!
Hi Michel, I intend to make a video on this, but unfortunately work and travel has given little time to making videos for the channel. If you are impatient you can see on page 27 in the Marklin 76xxx signals manual how to: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf The brake module works the same way and the wirering is the same. The difficult part it that you need an extra power supply as you can see in the drawing. Consider sending me an email if you need some help on this (see about for the channel www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about). Enjoy ;-) Bo
Thank you for this very clear and complete explanation and demonstration. This is very good stuff. I have to say, the module is fun and effective when you have ONE signal or a very few of them and when you start. On a decent layout one can see rapidly the cost of these modules and the wiring to become very negative not to mention the complexity of a bi-directional track with these modules. My personal choice was to replace these brake modules and wiring with a software control (Rocrail in my case). When I saw Märklin introduce its new generation signals, I was disappointed not to see some more modern way of instructing the loco to slow down and stop.
Hi John, Glad you liked the video. The main reason I have hesitated on making this video is that the braking (signal) module is very expensive, complex and you need one for each place you want the locomotive to brake. I agree that software control will be better and simpler for a many layouts. However, if you have a Mobile Station 2 - or want a small automated layout the braking module can be handy. Question: How are your experiences with Rocrail? Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun I just love Rocrail: a fantastic product that does not cost you an arm or leg. Because of its huge possibilities, the learning takes a little more effort but you still have a fantastic forum in many languages and an interactive help in your language. Here is my modest 100% Rocrail-operated layout czcams.com/video/F6WnhXPcRqI/video.html
Hi Bo As always a very detailed and informative video, here about breake module from start to finish. I will, impatiently, look forward to your next video where you connect signals to the 72442, especially those without a decoder. Rgds Olav
Hi Olav, I am glad you liked the video. I will be looking at adding a signal in a future video. At the moment I am however a little unsure what the best way to add a non-decoder signal - something I will have to look into. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Thank you very much for your feedback. In the manual for 72442/72441 there is an example "1 Gauge: Conventional solenoid accessory control/color light signal without mechanism". There must then be such a signal for H0 as well? I can't find any Märklin H0 signal of that type, but what about for example Viessmann 4011?
@@olavchristensen4776 I believe you are talking about the figure on page 8-9 in this manual? static.maerklin.de/damcontent/a2/e9/a2e9f739a75dab8f95b1c75bdcb21b441572012932.pdf I agree it looks like you can put in the 4011 instead of the signal depicted and then put a m83 instead of the control box. I have not tried it, but it looks feasible. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Bo I have just acquired a Vissmann 4011 and test the use of it with the breakmodule 72442. It works just fine, I have connnected the wire with the diode, the brown one, to the brown on m83. The yellow connector on the 72442 just under the signal ikon, I have connected to the yellow plug to the m83. The green and red from the signal i connected to 72442 on either side of the yellow one. The connection between 72442 and m83 is as it is. Rgds Olav😢
Hi Bo, thanks a lot again for your perfect explanation. I´d like you could also explain the same video but adding a signal ( semaphore). I mean for example when you change to red the brake modul to stop the train, change also at the same time the red light of the signal, and when you turn into green light, change to green the brake modul. I don´t know if you could synchronize all together. If you could do it, it will help a lot to understand how to do it.
Hi Joaquin, I intend to make a video on how to make the brake (signal) module work with the 76xxx series of signals. BTW - it is actually the signal that controls the brake module. Unfortunately, this combination makes the wiring more complex and needs extra power. Enjoy ;-) Bo
just to let you know about the cs-3 that i hate spent 2 thousand dollars more on marklin locos but still hate the cs-3 all - mixed up for me have not turned it on in at least 2 months -most likly wont ever use it again just to gather dust - i use my american layout now only -- glad you like it if you were here i would give you the whole layout 58- locos to everything wc
Hi Walter, I agree - not everybody like the 3-rail - mostly because of the looks. If you are a US layout enthusiast, then there is also the issue that there not much US rolling stock as well. However, there is some great US rolling stock upcoming from Märklin. We all have different interests and favorites within the model railroading hobby so it is important to find what you find intereting and what you like. Do remember that you can use the CS3 with DCC / 2-rail as well. Interestingly you can operate both a 3-rail and a 2-rail layout at the same time. I am sure you can find somebody that would like the 3-rail. I am unfortunately almost on the other side of the earth. If you like I could try to help you find somebody that like it - one US 3-rail guy I can think of is @ModelTrainOutsider. I also frequently come to California where I believe there is a couple of 3-rail clubs. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Bo. I am using the viessman brake module linked with the viessmann multiplexer. Could you please explain how to place the multiplexer on the cs3+ as I do not know how to do it
Hi Alf, Looking at the manual for the Viessmann 5229: viessmann-modell.com/media/pdf/14/fb/45/5229-pdfKa4LLVzocJWSD.pdf As I see it the only thin you need to do is to set the address and add it to the Central Station 3 (CS3). The Viessmann 5229 is set according to latest command, so I would do the following: 1. While CS3 is turned off, connect the Viessmann 5229 multiplexer 2. Create an accessory in the CS3 with the desired address e.g. address 9. 3. Put the Viessmann 5229 in "setting address" mode by following the procedure in Section 4.4 in the manual above. Hence: "push and hold the button “address” until the red control LED starts to blink. The control module indicates this status by slow blinking of the control LED" 4. Change the accessory on the CS3 - any change on this address should be ok. Then then Viessmann 5229 should go dark according to the manual "The now dark LED indicates the completion of this process and the signal shows the appropriate aspect.". 5. Select the signal icon in the CS3 e.g. for a home signal use either "HP0/1" or "HP0/1 Scale". Try out which one works the best. 6. Verify the address is correct by changing the accessory in the CS3 and verify that something changes on the signal connected to the multiplexer. For steps 2, 5 and 6 you can use this video as inspiration: czcams.com/video/YPOtWhGVsNI/video.html Hope this helps! If not - try to send me an email and I can try to help you this way (see www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about). Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Jari, No sure what you are asking? Are you asking if you can prevent trains from the other direction to brake at the brake section as the signal is not for them? If so, I could imagine you could accomplish this using an M84 and shift the power on the braking sections between being controlled by the brake module or normal track power. However, the disadvantage with this is that you need to use 3 double outputs from the M84 and could be come an expensive solution... Hope this helps? Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi, Looking at the Trix website they do not mention it and it is not mentioned in the manual - so it looks like it is not supported. However, some DCC decoders support ABC from Lenz: dccwiki.com/Automatic_Brake_Control I believe you can find brake modules from ESU for this: www.esu.eu/en/support/tips-tricks/ecos/blockstrecke-mit-bremsabschnitten/ Interestingly, Trix locomotives and Märklin locomotives use the same decoder, so the support for the Märklin brake module is probably just turned off in the Trix locomotives. The power is the same, so it might actually work. However, this would mean that decoders from other manufactors might not work, so this might not be a good solution. I have not tried this, so test at own risk. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
hI, your explanation is very good, but is possible to make the circuit (76494+72442) without the m83? and if there is a way to make it where i connect the power for brake module and signal?
Hi Leonardo, Yes - you can connect the brake module to a signal. I have an upcoming video on how to connect to a modern Märklin smart signal. I expect it to be online within 2-4 weeks. Until then consider looking in the manual for the signal. As an example look at page 37 in the manual for Märklin 76491 Home Block signal: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf I can help over email until the video is out - you can find my email here: www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about Enjoy ;-) Bo
your videos are very informative especially when you incorporate other makes with marklin. I have recently purchased a viessmann double multiplexer for two light signals (52292). Could you explain how to connect this to m84 or m83 in order to control my viessmann signals from my cs3 plus. Also May I ask how do you connect the uncoupler track24996 with light mast to my m83. I cannot get it to work when I attach the yellow wire to the red terminal on my m83 and the blue wire to the green terminal with a red wire from the track to the centre terminal all I get is a buzzing noise. Could you please advise me what I am doing wrong. Thanks for all your help as always.
Hi Alf, Looking at the manual for Viessmann 52292 it has a built in decoder, so you do not need a m83/m84: viessmann-modell.com/media/pdf/g0/24/45/eHBhY2tldCBlbmQ9InIiPz4NCmVuZHN0cmVhbQ1lbmRvYmoNNDA1IDAgb2JqDTw8L0NyZWF0aW9uRGF0ZShEOjIwMjMwNzA1MTI1NTM1KzAyJzAwJykvQ3JlYXRvcihBZG9iZSBJbkRlc2lnbiAxOC40IFwoV2luZG93c1wpKS9Nb2REYXRl.pdf If you look at figure 3 you can see how to connect it. You basically just connect it to the track using the red and brown wires in the lower left hand corner. Remember to program it with an address as described in Section 5.4 - essentially pushing the red button until the red LED blinks slowly, then change the desired turnout on the MS2 or CS3. The Viessmann 52292 will get the first address transmitted. You can also program it using DCC as described in Section 5.5. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Alf, When you say Märklin 24996 I believe you mean the 24997? The uncoupler track is supposed to make a buzzing noise - that is how it works. However the standard setting for the m83 is for turnouts and it gives too short a pulse for the uncoupler track. I intend to make a video on the 24997, but unfortunately it will be sometime in the future. In the meantime you can consider experimenting yourself. I would use the m83 as shown in the video on how to connect the 74490 to the m83: czcams.com/video/eGexwTEeFZE/video.html As far as I can see you need to connect the yellow and blue wire of the 24997 to the m83 as you would the turnout. You only have one blue which means that the uncoupler track only would work on either Red or Green. However, the challenge is that it will not work optimally as the m83 is optimized for the turnouts with short bursts. The 24997 uncoupler track needs longer bursts in order to uncouple every time. If you have the uncoupler track blue wire in the red of port 1 on the m83 you need to change CV 114 to 15. This is easy on a CS3, but difficult on a MS2. Let me know if this helps! Consider emailing me if this is easier - find my email here: www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about Enjoy ;-)
Hi Bo. I wanted to ask you: I'm building a layout with two separate lines, where I'll run Marklin material on one and Trix material on the other. I ask you: can I also use this system that you illustrated for Marklin for Trix??? Paolo
Hi Paolo, Looking at the Trix website they do not mention it and it is not mentioned in the manual - so it looks like it is not supported. However, some DCC decoders support ABC from Lenz: dccwiki.com/Automatic_Brake_Control I believe you can find brake modules from ESU for this: www.esu.eu/en/support/tips-tricks/ecos/blockstrecke-mit-bremsabschnitten/ Finally, even though the Märklin brake module is not indicated as supported I think it might work anyways: Trix locomotives and Märklin locomotives use the same decoder, so the support for the Märklin brake module is most likely just turned off in the Trix locomotives. The power is the same, so it might actually work. However, test at own risk. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Jean Ricard, this is one way - if you come from the opposite direction, then it will hit the stop section first that could be unpowered. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@jeanricard918 I have been thinking about this and I believe one could make it work such that if it comes from the reverse direction it could allow a train to pass. I am thinking you could do this using some circuit switches that can detect the direction of the train. If you have a CS3 you can also use events to create this behaviour. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi I love your videos , learned allot already from you videos. I'm building my own tracks with again after allot of years with my son. But allot changed with the digital decoders. I do have question. I have seen episode On the Red signal and the Viessmann signals using M84 also the block section video using S88 and now this video using M83. My question is can can I combine all these? Do you have a video of this I can't find combining these two? Or do you might have a schematic of the wiring 😀 Thanks
Hi Dennis, Great to hear you like the videos and I hope you have fun with the digital stuff. I am a little unsure of what your question is and what you have available and what you are trying to achieve. In this video I am just using the m83 instead of a signal to show the principle of the brake module. You can add a signal, but this becomes much more complex and I will show in a later video. If you cannot wait you can find the diagram in the manual of the signal on page 37: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf With signals you usually have two options: 1. Use smart signals that have built-in decoders 2. Use dumb signals without a decoder and control them When using dumb signals the recommended way using Märklin is the M84 as it is made for constant power while the M83 is made to create a short pulse. Through some advanced programming you can also use the M83, but it is not it's original purpose. If you want more advanced signals, then consider signal decoders from other brands. If you are looking to automate your trains using a Central Station 3, then you could put in S88 train detection using contact tracks. Then you can use the (smart signals with decoders) signals or m84 with the Viessmann signals. Then you would use the CS3 to change the signal when appropriate. You can see how to in the "Automation" playlist: czcams.com/play/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV.html Hope this helps! Enjoy Bo ;-)
@@Dennis-Vermeulen Also consider the Viessman decoders that fit with the Viessmann signals - perhaps they work better than the m84? The m84 requires quite some wirering for signals with 3 or 4 aspects. Let me know what about your experiences. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Bo, I have to thank you from the bottom of my heart because no one else does it as you explain, so I have to say thank you, thank you, thank you so much!
Hi Lorenzo, glad you liked the video! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Excellent video, I’m in anticipation for how you would add a semaphore or light signal. Greetings from 🇨🇦eh!
Hi Michel, I intend to make a video on this, but unfortunately work and travel has given little time to making videos for the channel.
If you are impatient you can see on page 27 in the Marklin 76xxx signals manual how to: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf The brake module works the same way and the wirering is the same. The difficult part it that you need an extra power supply as you can see in the drawing. Consider sending me an email if you need some help on this (see about for the channel www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about).
Enjoy ;-) Bo
i am new to digital but your explanation is good and simple. thanks.
Hi Patrick, Glad to hear that! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Nice video!! You explain very well
Hi Eduardo, Thanks for watching. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Thank you for this very clear and complete explanation and demonstration. This is very good stuff.
I have to say, the module is fun and effective when you have ONE signal or a very few of them and when you start.
On a decent layout one can see rapidly the cost of these modules and the wiring to become very negative not to mention the complexity of a bi-directional track with these modules. My personal choice was to replace these brake modules and wiring with a software control (Rocrail in my case).
When I saw Märklin introduce its new generation signals, I was disappointed not to see some more modern way of instructing the loco to slow down and stop.
Hi John,
Glad you liked the video. The main reason I have hesitated on making this video is that the braking (signal) module is very expensive, complex and you need one for each place you want the locomotive to brake. I agree that software control will be better and simpler for a many layouts. However, if you have a Mobile Station 2 - or want a small automated layout the braking module can be handy.
Question: How are your experiences with Rocrail?
Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun I just love Rocrail: a fantastic product that does not cost you an arm or leg. Because of its huge possibilities, the learning takes a little more effort but you still have a fantastic forum in many languages and an interactive help in your language.
Here is my modest 100% Rocrail-operated layout
czcams.com/video/F6WnhXPcRqI/video.html
Hi John, looks great with the busy station and I like you yard hump at the end - works really nice! Enjoy ;-)
Fantastic
Hi, I am glad you like the video. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Excelente saludos desde Costa Rica
Hi Francisco, Great - I hope it will be useful. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Very informative thanks
Hi Ulf, Glad it was helpful! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Bo
As always a very detailed and informative video, here about breake module from start to finish. I will, impatiently, look forward to your next video where you connect signals to the 72442, especially those without a decoder.
Rgds
Olav
Hi Olav, I am glad you liked the video. I will be looking at adding a signal in a future video. At the moment I am however a little unsure what the best way to add a non-decoder signal - something I will have to look into. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@@ModelTrainFun Thank you very much for your feedback. In the manual for 72442/72441 there is an example "1 Gauge: Conventional solenoid accessory control/color light signal without mechanism". There must then be such a signal for H0 as well? I can't find any Märklin H0 signal of that type, but what about for example Viessmann 4011?
@@olavchristensen4776 I believe you are talking about the figure on page 8-9 in this manual? static.maerklin.de/damcontent/a2/e9/a2e9f739a75dab8f95b1c75bdcb21b441572012932.pdf
I agree it looks like you can put in the 4011 instead of the signal depicted and then put a m83 instead of the control box. I have not tried it, but it looks feasible. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Bo
I have just acquired a Vissmann 4011 and test the use of it with the breakmodule 72442. It works just fine, I have connnected the wire with the diode, the brown one, to the brown on m83. The yellow connector on the 72442 just under the signal ikon, I have connected to the yellow plug to the m83. The green and red from the signal i connected to 72442 on either side of the yellow one. The connection between 72442 and m83 is as it is.
Rgds Olav😢
Hi Bo, it was a nice and clear video again. Thanks
Hi Eric, Glad you enjoyed it! Have fun with trains ;-) Bo
looking good cant wait for more info you are good the best i seen
Hi Hein, Awesome! Thank you! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Thanks!
Hi Junias, Thanks a lot for the super thanks! All money does directly into the video production for the channel. Have fun with trains! Enjoy ;-)
Hi Bo, thanks a lot again for your perfect explanation. I´d like you could also explain the same video but adding a signal ( semaphore). I mean for example when you change to red the brake modul to stop the train, change also at the same time the red light of the signal, and when you turn into green light, change to green the brake modul. I don´t know if you could synchronize all together. If you could do it, it will help a lot to understand how to do it.
Hi Joaquin, I intend to make a video on how to make the brake (signal) module work with the 76xxx series of signals. BTW - it is actually the signal that controls the brake module. Unfortunately, this combination makes the wiring more complex and needs extra power. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Bo, super info, good work
Hi johan, Glad it was helpful! Enjoy ;-) Bo
just to let you know about the cs-3 that i hate spent 2 thousand dollars more on marklin locos but still hate the cs-3 all - mixed up for me have not turned it on in at least 2 months -most likly wont ever use it again just to gather dust - i use my american layout now only -- glad you like it if you were here i would give you the whole layout 58- locos to everything wc
Hi Walter,
I agree - not everybody like the 3-rail - mostly because of the looks. If you are a US layout enthusiast, then there is also the issue that there not much US rolling stock as well. However, there is some great US rolling stock upcoming from Märklin. We all have different interests and favorites within the model railroading hobby so it is important to find what you find intereting and what you like.
Do remember that you can use the CS3 with DCC / 2-rail as well. Interestingly you can operate both a 3-rail and a 2-rail layout at the same time. I am sure you can find somebody that would like the 3-rail. I am unfortunately almost on the other side of the earth. If you like I could try to help you find somebody that like it - one US 3-rail guy I can think of is @ModelTrainOutsider. I also frequently come to California where I believe there is a couple of 3-rail clubs.
Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Bo. I am using the viessman brake module linked with the viessmann multiplexer. Could you please explain how to place the multiplexer on the cs3+ as I do not know how to do it
Hi Alf,
Looking at the manual for the Viessmann 5229: viessmann-modell.com/media/pdf/14/fb/45/5229-pdfKa4LLVzocJWSD.pdf As I see it the only thin you need to do is to set the address and add it to the Central Station 3 (CS3).
The Viessmann 5229 is set according to latest command, so I would do the following:
1. While CS3 is turned off, connect the Viessmann 5229 multiplexer
2. Create an accessory in the CS3 with the desired address e.g. address 9.
3. Put the Viessmann 5229 in "setting address" mode by following the procedure in Section 4.4 in the manual above. Hence: "push and hold the button “address” until the red control LED starts to blink. The control module indicates this status by slow blinking of the control LED"
4. Change the accessory on the CS3 - any change on this address should be ok. Then then Viessmann 5229 should go dark according to the manual "The now dark LED indicates the completion of this process and the signal shows the appropriate aspect.".
5. Select the signal icon in the CS3 e.g. for a home signal use either "HP0/1" or "HP0/1 Scale". Try out which one works the best.
6. Verify the address is correct by changing the accessory in the CS3 and verify that something changes on the signal connected to the multiplexer.
For steps 2, 5 and 6 you can use this video as inspiration: czcams.com/video/YPOtWhGVsNI/video.html
Hope this helps! If not - try to send me an email and I can try to help you this way (see www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about).
Enjoy ;-) Bo
Can I couble more than one mark light modules to a brake modull?
Hi Jari,
No sure what you are asking? Are you asking if you can prevent trains from the other direction to brake at the brake section as the signal is not for them? If so, I could imagine you could accomplish this using an M84 and shift the power on the braking sections between being controlled by the brake module or normal track power. However, the disadvantage with this is that you need to use 3 double outputs from the M84 and could be come an expensive solution...
Hope this helps? Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi, congratulations on the channel. I would like to know if i can use the M84 decoder, instead of the M83? Thanks
Hi Pedro, I have not found any description of how to connect the M84, but it in theory should be possible. What are you trying to do? Enjoy ;-) Bo
hi will this work with trix c gleis or only the marklin 3 rail?
Hi,
Looking at the Trix website they do not mention it and it is not mentioned in the manual - so it looks like it is not supported.
However, some DCC decoders support ABC from Lenz: dccwiki.com/Automatic_Brake_Control I believe you can find brake modules from ESU for this: www.esu.eu/en/support/tips-tricks/ecos/blockstrecke-mit-bremsabschnitten/
Interestingly, Trix locomotives and Märklin locomotives use the same decoder, so the support for the Märklin brake module is probably just turned off in the Trix locomotives. The power is the same, so it might actually work. However, this would mean that decoders from other manufactors might not work, so this might not be a good solution. I have not tried this, so test at own risk.
Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
super intéressant
Hi Odile, glad you like it! Enjoy ;-) Bo
ce n'est pas odile mais georges et j' ajoute que vos demo son genial@@ModelTrainFun
@@odilejoberry8998Hi Georges - sorry about the confusion. Enjoy and have fun with Model Trains ;-)
hI, your explanation is very good, but is possible to make the circuit (76494+72442) without the m83? and if there is a way to make it where i connect the power for brake module and signal?
Hi Leonardo,
Yes - you can connect the brake module to a signal. I have an upcoming video on how to connect to a modern Märklin smart signal. I expect it to be online within 2-4 weeks. Until then consider looking in the manual for the signal. As an example look at page 37 in the manual for Märklin 76491 Home Block signal: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf I can help over email until the video is out - you can find my email here: www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about
Enjoy ;-) Bo
your videos are very informative especially when you incorporate other makes with marklin. I have recently purchased a viessmann double multiplexer for two light signals (52292). Could you explain how to connect this to m84 or m83 in order to control my viessmann signals from my cs3 plus.
Also May I ask how do you connect the uncoupler track24996 with light mast to my m83. I cannot get it to work when I attach the yellow wire to the red terminal on my m83 and the blue wire to the green terminal with a red wire from the track to the centre terminal all I get is a buzzing noise. Could you please advise me what I am doing wrong. Thanks for all your help as always.
Hi Alf,
Looking at the manual for Viessmann 52292 it has a built in decoder, so you do not need a m83/m84: viessmann-modell.com/media/pdf/g0/24/45/eHBhY2tldCBlbmQ9InIiPz4NCmVuZHN0cmVhbQ1lbmRvYmoNNDA1IDAgb2JqDTw8L0NyZWF0aW9uRGF0ZShEOjIwMjMwNzA1MTI1NTM1KzAyJzAwJykvQ3JlYXRvcihBZG9iZSBJbkRlc2lnbiAxOC40IFwoV2luZG93c1wpKS9Nb2REYXRl.pdf
If you look at figure 3 you can see how to connect it. You basically just connect it to the track using the red and brown wires in the lower left hand corner. Remember to program it with an address as described in Section 5.4 - essentially pushing the red button until the red LED blinks slowly, then change the desired turnout on the MS2 or CS3. The Viessmann 52292 will get the first address transmitted. You can also program it using DCC as described in Section 5.5.
Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi Alf,
When you say Märklin 24996 I believe you mean the 24997? The uncoupler track is supposed to make a buzzing noise - that is how it works. However the standard setting for the m83 is for turnouts and it gives too short a pulse for the uncoupler track.
I intend to make a video on the 24997, but unfortunately it will be sometime in the future. In the meantime you can consider experimenting yourself. I would use the m83 as shown in the video on how to connect the 74490 to the m83: czcams.com/video/eGexwTEeFZE/video.html As far as I can see you need to connect the yellow and blue wire of the 24997 to the m83 as you would the turnout. You only have one blue which means that the uncoupler track only would work on either Red or Green.
However, the challenge is that it will not work optimally as the m83 is optimized for the turnouts with short bursts. The 24997 uncoupler track needs longer bursts in order to uncouple every time. If you have the uncoupler track blue wire in the red of port 1 on the m83 you need to change CV 114 to 15. This is easy on a CS3, but difficult on a MS2.
Let me know if this helps! Consider emailing me if this is easier - find my email here: www.youtube.com/@ModelTrainFun/about Enjoy ;-)
Hi Bo. I wanted to ask you: I'm building a layout with two separate lines, where I'll run Marklin material on one and Trix material on the other. I ask you: can I also use this system that you illustrated for Marklin for Trix???
Paolo
Hi Paolo, Looking at the Trix website they do not mention it and it is not mentioned in the manual - so it looks like it is not supported. However, some DCC decoders support ABC from Lenz: dccwiki.com/Automatic_Brake_Control I believe you can find brake modules from ESU for this: www.esu.eu/en/support/tips-tricks/ecos/blockstrecke-mit-bremsabschnitten/ Finally, even though the Märklin brake module is not indicated as supported I think it might work anyways: Trix locomotives and Märklin locomotives use the same decoder, so the support for the Märklin brake module is most likely just turned off in the Trix locomotives. The power is the same, so it might actually work. However, test at own risk. Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo
What happens when you let the locomotive going clockwise instead of going anti clockwise as in this video - or is it a one way track?
Hi Jean Ricard, this is one way - if you come from the opposite direction, then it will hit the stop section first that could be unpowered. Enjoy ;-) Bo
@jeanricard918 I have been thinking about this and I believe one could make it work such that if it comes from the reverse direction it could allow a train to pass. I am thinking you could do this using some circuit switches that can detect the direction of the train. If you have a CS3 you can also use events to create this behaviour. Enjoy ;-) Bo
Hi I love your videos , learned allot already from you videos. I'm building my own tracks with again after allot of years with my son. But allot changed with the digital decoders. I do have question. I have seen episode On the Red signal and the Viessmann signals using M84 also the block section video using S88 and now this video using M83. My question is can can I combine all these? Do you have a video of this I can't find combining these two? Or do you might have a schematic of the wiring 😀 Thanks
Hi Dennis,
Great to hear you like the videos and I hope you have fun with the digital stuff. I am a little unsure of what your question is and what you have available and what you are trying to achieve.
In this video I am just using the m83 instead of a signal to show the principle of the brake module. You can add a signal, but this becomes much more complex and I will show in a later video. If you cannot wait you can find the diagram in the manual of the signal on page 37: static.maerklin.de/damcontent/80/3e/803e565a406f08748a0372953b6c39721616401922.pdf
With signals you usually have two options:
1. Use smart signals that have built-in decoders
2. Use dumb signals without a decoder and control them
When using dumb signals the recommended way using Märklin is the M84 as it is made for constant power while the M83 is made to create a short pulse. Through some advanced programming you can also use the M83, but it is not it's original purpose. If you want more advanced signals, then consider signal decoders from other brands.
If you are looking to automate your trains using a Central Station 3, then you could put in S88 train detection using contact tracks. Then you can use the (smart signals with decoders) signals or m84 with the Viessmann signals. Then you would use the CS3 to change the signal when appropriate. You can see how to in the "Automation" playlist: czcams.com/play/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV.html
Hope this helps! Enjoy Bo ;-)
@@ModelTrainFun thanks for the answer and the solutions i think i go for the last one with the viessmann lights.
@@Dennis-Vermeulen Also consider the Viessman decoders that fit with the Viessmann signals - perhaps they work better than the m84? The m84 requires quite some wirering for signals with 3 or 4 aspects. Let me know what about your experiences. Enjoy ;-) Bo
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Hi Walter, not sure why the strikeout line has been added to you comment? I did not add it and have no idea how to remove it. Sorry! Enjoy ;-) Bo