Why Nobody Knows Who Owns 15% of England

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  • @MrJuanmarin99
    @MrJuanmarin99 Před 2 lety +2849

    Now I want to go England with a Conquistador outfit and claim that we where just playing the long game and now own 15% of England.

    • @emilyhockers1086
      @emilyhockers1086 Před 2 lety +24

      yes

    • @bitequation314
      @bitequation314 Před 2 lety +224

      If you're going for a Spanish outfit, why not go a little more... unexpected?

    • @ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758
      @ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758 Před 2 lety +87

      @@bitequation314 especially if you’re asking some questions, you should dress up as the Spanish question askers. No one would see it coming.

    • @Cyber-v1.67
      @Cyber-v1.67 Před 2 lety +45

      @@bitequation314 yes that would be good but you may face some _iquisition_ from the locals.

    • @panamaru7793
      @panamaru7793 Před 2 lety +31

      Oh heck I was gonna claim that area of land to enact the next phase of Revolutionary War 2: Freedom Boogaloo

  • @thesherbet
    @thesherbet Před 2 lety +1102

    As much as "ask in the local pub" sounds like a cop-out, it genuinely is the best way to find out. There is always someone who knows everyone nearby and the farmers will know every field off by heart.

    • @DoctorX17
      @DoctorX17 Před 2 lety +38

      I imagine that the less populated the area, the more true this is (in highly populated areas there might be too many people for one person to keep track of)

    • @dsnodgrass4843
      @dsnodgrass4843 Před 2 lety +65

      @@DoctorX17 You'd be amazed at how well some people know their densely populated city neighborhoods; not only in the present, but sometimes 3 or 4 generations back. Find the right pub (or local equivalent); you'll find that person.

    • @DoctorX17
      @DoctorX17 Před 2 lety +9

      @@dsnodgrass4843 heh, guess people are more social there. Here it can be hard to find someone who knows more than everyone on a single block, let alone larger chunks of the city (there are millions of people in the city, so nobody could know everybody here if they wanted to)

    • @stephenmatura1086
      @stephenmatura1086 Před 2 lety +17

      I believe it's how the Ordnance Survey found out what names to give certain landmarks in a particular area when making their maps.

    • @dougfowler1368
      @dougfowler1368 Před 2 lety +6

      Probably similar to how they expected to know where that stone in the woods was in my other comment about my friends land in rural Kentucky. After all, it also mentioned someone else's property line by name. Maybe they figured the next person could just knock on the guy's door and ask.

  • @joeym5243
    @joeym5243 Před 2 lety +1755

    Maybe it's all owned by someone named "Unregistered"so that they don't have to pay taxes?

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 Před 2 lety +147

      Damn, they've been doing this for centuries, must be a dynasty

    • @satnus3388
      @satnus3388 Před 2 lety +136

      @@crackedemerald4930 Unregistered Dynasty. That sounds very confusing

    • @jasonlib1996
      @jasonlib1996 Před 2 lety +44

      I'd imagine you're not far from the truth though... if theirs any kind of loophole which means they can avoid registering the land then you know they're going to use it as a way to avoid having to pay tax on that land.

    • @EdgyShooter
      @EdgyShooter Před 2 lety +11

      Potential, but I have a feeling that a majority of it is in some pretty inhospitable areas

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 Před 2 lety +26

      @@EdgyShooter like Wales

  • @KairuinKorea
    @KairuinKorea Před 2 lety +1081

    My grandparent's house is the only house on our street that is not registered. I know because I worked at a law firm, and all law firms have near unlimited access to online land registry records. Generally old people just don't care xD They say "well, that's someone else's problem when I die" lol.

    • @main8824
      @main8824 Před 2 lety +3

      Lol

    • @Cragglerock93
      @Cragglerock93 Před 2 lety +29

      Are you supposed to be checking things like that without a reason? I mean, HMRC staff have nearly unlimited information to everyone's tax affairs but very against the rules to just look up your neighbour, lol

    • @HesderOleh
      @HesderOleh Před 2 lety +65

      @@Cragglerock93 I think they just mean that normal people have to pay a small per fee per recod they access, but that they buy access in bulk and they buy way more access than they need, so they don't really care about looking up more records than is absolutely neccasary because they never reach their "data cap".

    • @matthewleong2726
      @matthewleong2726 Před 2 lety +14

      Hmmm, if land needs to be registered to be inherited, then I can only imagine that the government will cease the land when he dies and it will not be inherited by your grandparent's children. But you're the law guy, you tell me..

    • @bullseye911
      @bullseye911 Před 2 lety +12

      @@HesderOleh Yes, those are public records. In my country I can even see the owners loan application.

  • @jordanmcgrory2171
    @jordanmcgrory2171 Před 2 lety +971

    You forgot the most embarrassing bit. Neighbouring Scotland has had a land register since 1617, over two hundred years before England and Wales sorted it out.

    • @loc4725
      @loc4725 Před 2 lety +52

      They also had a bit of what you might call "an issue" with the kicking out of -land owning- tenant farmers so that sheep could graze there. But don't worry too much about that, most of the disposessed died of starvation so there was no real comeback. 😏

    • @matthewmccarthy3787
      @matthewmccarthy3787 Před 2 lety +18

      @@loc4725 the evictions were mostly done by English people you know, not saying no Scottish landlords did it but a whole lot of English landlords evicted Irish and Scottish people

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 Před 2 lety +9

      @@matthewmccarthy3787 Blame on the aristocracy not the English, and their descendants still profit from it

    • @prammar1951
      @prammar1951 Před 2 lety +8

      The entire world figured it out, ottomans have land registries that go all the way to 1500s...

    • @hobbabobba7912
      @hobbabobba7912 Před 2 lety +14

      @@matthewmccarthy3787 technically this isn't true, it was mostly done by Scottish Lords that lived in London.

  • @stevenjlovelace
    @stevenjlovelace Před 2 lety +666

    The logo for Her Majesty's Land Registry looks like a Settlers of Catan map.

    • @gentarokvarnstrom9159
      @gentarokvarnstrom9159 Před 2 lety +8

      Oh my god it does

    • @onlinavision8916
      @onlinavision8916 Před 2 lety +6

      Because the Catan map was made that way

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 Před 2 lety +29

      Hexagons are the bestagons.

    • @Ealsante
      @Ealsante Před 2 lety +5

      It's more like the Settlers of Catan is a simulation of how the British treat land, right?

    • @mrdog652
      @mrdog652 Před 2 lety +2

      I work at HMLR and yes it does.

  • @ShitStainedBallSack
    @ShitStainedBallSack Před 2 lety +475

    It's strange how everybody who advertises hello fresh has been using them for about a year

    • @joshklein7842
      @joshklein7842 Před 2 lety +62

      A little sus -_-

    • @samcree96
      @samcree96 Před 2 lety +76

      Even before they got sponsored!

    • @fumiko___
      @fumiko___ Před 2 lety +29

      some of them are true, but yeah most of them are lying

    • @PhiltheMoko
      @PhiltheMoko Před 2 lety +76

      It could also be that just over a year ago a huge number of people had to mostly stay home for a long period of time.

    • @Schindlabua
      @Schindlabua Před 2 lety +47

      One of my favourite streamers (Northernlion) was raving about Hello Fresh every stream but eventually he canceled the sponsorship and then started absolutely trashing it, he said it's tiny portions for too high a price and they give you two pieces of meat for your chicken teriyaki and stuff like that, lol. Gotta appreciate the honesty.
      It's always been a weird concept to me, like either buy takeout or just spend 15 minutes and go to the grocery store and cook it yourself?

  • @irkibby
    @irkibby Před 2 lety +370

    The records of land ownership used to be kept in regional archives until about 10 years ago, when HM Land Registry decided to put it all in one building. I work in the building. It's absolutely vast.

    • @amdonut8091
      @amdonut8091 Před 2 lety +17

      Has it been copied to a digital database yet?

    • @dominictemple
      @dominictemple Před 2 lety +52

      @@amdonut8091 😆😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh you sweet innocent child.

    • @amdonut8091
      @amdonut8091 Před 2 lety +23

      @@dominictemple I guess it's a big no 😂

    • @cozmic0
      @cozmic0 Před 2 lety +14

      what if.... you know the building caught fire or something?

    • @irkibby
      @irkibby Před 2 lety +15

      @@amdonut8091 there are more than a million boxes full of documents. That's not really possible

  • @AntiAntagonist
    @AntiAntagonist Před 2 lety +179

    So... If a squatter shows up on unregistered land then the only thing keeping them from taking ownership is a possible current owner. However if there is a current owner they'll have to prove that they own the land, which is harder when they've been trying to avoid the registry.

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc Před 2 lety +42

      Owner: “Go away, I have the twig for this plot!”

    • @LaikaLycanthrope
      @LaikaLycanthrope Před 2 lety +27

      Yeah, it's called "squatter's rights", and it kind of varies from different places that allow it, I think, but generally the trick is that you have to improve and maintain the property for a certain period of time; you can't just come and pitch a tent and strew garbage around and call it yours.

    • @theoriginalhegs94
      @theoriginalhegs94 Před 2 lety +31

      Not necessarily, Sam's over simplifying the situation to make it funny, it's not that this unregistered land lacks good title (legal, provable ownership), it's just that the current individual in possession of title isn't known to this specific registry. I'm not a solicitor, I'm not even British, but I am *currently* a law student in the US studying property law - our rules have diverged over the years in some key ways, but the broadest possible strokes of estate ownership don't really change. Adverse Possession (squatters rights) has a lot of complicated rules around it to protect both parties, but in general AP exists to foster the use of land, so you can only AP property that is not being used. If it is, then the person attempting to enter upon and take the land has no claim - either the person originally occupying the property (we'll call them A) is the true owner, in which case the adverse possessor (we'll call them B) has no claim; or A cannot prove title (they either have an incomplete deed, no deed, or some other problem with their deed) but has been in possession longer than B, which would mean A was in adverse possession longer than B, therefore giving A a stronger title. Essentially if someone is currently occupying it, you can't adverse possess the land out from under them (generally).
      IF the land is not being occupied, B *may* be able to enter upon the land through adverse possession, but it's not as simple as walking into a field and saying "this is mine." The rules of adverse possession are complicated, often contradictory, and not consistent across common law jurisdictions. But in general, if B entered upon the property, was actively using the land, doing so in an open manner, was in continuous occupancy (in terms of years, B can leave the property to go grocery shopping haha), and was the only person to do so THEN they can claim adverse possession after the statute of limitations runs out (usually 10-25 years). There is another requirement for adverse possession, "hostility," but it's complicated even for lawyers, so I'm not going to get into it here.
      If A shows up at any point within the statute of limits, and can prove good title (provide a deed, show chain of title from the original true owner to their current ownership, court documentation proving their title, anything), then B is out on their ass. Basically the Registry Sam is talking about isn't the sole authority on ownership, it's just a catalogue of current owners. You can, and should, have other proof of ownership (namely a deed).

    • @NickLea
      @NickLea Před 2 lety +14

      So, claiming unregistered land by adverse possession in the UK (ie by being a squatter) takes 12 years. You have to provide proof that you've occupied the land without the consent of the owner for 12 years. If you do this, then you can apply to the land registry. They will then contact anybody they think might have an interest in the land and maybe put a notice in the local paper etc. If nobody comes forward to dispute their claim then the land belongs to the squatter.
      If the land is owned by the government, then the time period is increased to 30 years and if it's a beach or foreshore etc (which is owned by the Queen) then it's 60 years.
      "...if there is a current owner they'll have to prove that they own the land, which is harder when they've been trying to avoid the registry."
      Just because a property isn't registered doesn't mean that somebody has been trying to avoid it. All it means is that it has not been sold since 1990. If you (or your family eg grandfather etc) have bought a house or land or other property before 1990 and not sold it then it will not necessarily be registered. This is not at all uncommon.
      Even though a property is not registered that does not mean that there is no simple way to prove ownership. Proof of ownership will be evidenced by a bundle of title documents or deeds. Historically such deeds would have been required to be produced whenever there was a “dealing” with the property, for example, a change of ownership.
      The seller (via their conveyancer) of a property of unregistered land must provide evidence of title to the buyer by showing physical, documentary evidence of ownership from a point in time 15 years beforehand, right up to the present day. In conveyancing terms, this is also known as “deducing title”. In reality, these physical deeds will often go back decades or even hundreds or years.
      If the land is registered then it's much harder to gain adverse possession

    • @ow4744
      @ow4744 Před 2 lety +7

      @@NickLea very good summary but one small niggle - it means it hasn't been sold since 1990 OR hasn't had a grant of rights, been leased for more than seven years, or passed under a will since 2003 (I'm probably missing something there). The Land Registration Act 2002 expanded the number of transactions resulting in compulsory registration.

  • @VwhynotzoidbergV
    @VwhynotzoidbergV Před 2 lety +354

    "Felt bad that they weren't living up to their name"

  • @tcm81
    @tcm81 Před 2 lety +78

    It's not quite accurate that there was no record of land holding in England. Land transactions were often recorded in a fictitious legal suit between the buyer and seller called a fine. A record of this agreement was kept by the court of common pleas as the 'foot of the fine' (the lower part of the agreement was cut away and kept by the court). These 'feet of fines' could then be consulted in the event of a dispute.

    • @Kelly_C
      @Kelly_C Před 2 lety +6

      lmao I love how cobbled together everything about british government is

    • @lsedge7280
      @lsedge7280 Před 2 lety +6

      Yep, this makes it even more amusing tbh, that clearly the best way to record land transactions were to create an imaginary legal case and then drop it.

    • @wertrocks123
      @wertrocks123 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Kelly_C that's what happens when your country is so old that at one point everything was a solution to a problem not yet encountered. New countries have it much easier, they can just follow a blueprint for how to do things and tweak it here and there to suit them.

  • @paemonyes8299
    @paemonyes8299 Před 2 lety +253

    As much as there’s many “fun facts” channels out there, I subscribed to this channel simply because I like the narration style. It’s casual and is at a decent pace, and it’s easy to understand.

    • @Atollic
      @Atollic Před 2 lety +1

      Wow, that OwO guy I see everywhere got hacked. Now I've seen everything.

    • @Sariusify
      @Sariusify Před 2 lety +2

      @@Atollic Nah, just a copycat spambot. Channel's 4 months old and has below 50 subs.

    • @mancclubber
      @mancclubber Před 2 lety

      Despite it having glaring mistakes?

    • @paemonyes8299
      @paemonyes8299 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mancclubber I suppose it is necessary for me to fact check anything I see on youtube as well- but at least this video exposed me to the idea that perhaps there is 15% of “unrecognised” land in the UK. Also, I’m just a schoolgirl hahaha so I’m probably clever enough not to believe everything I see….. at least I hope so

  • @yondie491
    @yondie491 Před 2 lety +262

    I appreciate that you acknowledge that it's "England and Wales" in the video, but couldn't be bothered to acknowledge Wales existence in the title.

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 Před 2 lety +6

      Whales?

    • @aminelswefy1808
      @aminelswefy1808 Před 2 lety +9

      @@dubious6718 Orcas?

    • @yondie491
      @yondie491 Před 2 lety +15

      @@aminelswefy1808 I think you did that on porpoise

    • @richcbri
      @richcbri Před 2 lety +8

      Let's just hope the Welsh Nationalist don't see it, they are grumpy enough as it is at the moment.

    • @bigfish3846
      @bigfish3846 Před 2 lety +4

      It would make the title worse cause Wales has the population of a city

  • @TakeWalker
    @TakeWalker Před 2 lety +63

    "Shut up, nerd, that's too much work!" - Some guy in the 16th century to King Henry of Britain, I guess

    • @CTSimp260
      @CTSimp260 Před 2 lety +2

      Sounds like that some guy is gonna get Anne Boleyn'ed.

  • @connivex
    @connivex Před 2 lety +49

    When you said England you highlighted both England and Wales. That'll go down well ;)

    • @KnightThomash
      @KnightThomash Před 2 lety +8

      The map at 2:26 also showed the Isle of Mann witch isn't even in the UK

    • @batzzowo8942
      @batzzowo8942 Před 2 lety +7

      Wales is usually forgotten about, which the culture and language is very interesting

    • @ruxiist
      @ruxiist Před 2 lety +5

      Wales has historically been administered under England since the 13th century until more recent times. The video was referencing the time of the Black Death when Wales was administratively a part of England.

    • @murray5629
      @murray5629 Před 2 lety

      And part of Scotland!

  • @hiltonian_1260
    @hiltonian_1260 Před 2 lety +25

    The land ownership problem where I live, Vermont, is spring rights. Farmers have always needed water, and didn’t always have a good source on their own land. They would negotiate with a neighbor for the right to use a spring on the other guy’s land.
    The problem arises because they would describe the spring in the deed as “The spring near the big maple tree in the pasture.” Of course the pasture is now forest and the big maple is gone but a neighbor has a dried out well and wants to use a spring. Lawsuits ensue. My dad, a judge, called spring rights “the bane of the Vermont legal system.”
    See also: poorly defined rights of way with use stipulations that only made sense in the 19th century.

  • @SirSoliloquy
    @SirSoliloquy Před 2 lety +191

    Is it just me, or has this channel’s humor *really* improved in this video? Sometimes I get frustrated with HAI because the humor doesn’t seem to mesh well with the rest of the video, but this one just works a lot better than usual.

    • @LEFT4BASS
      @LEFT4BASS Před 2 lety +28

      I’ve always liked the humor, but it was okay extra smooth this video.

    • @Justinbyleth
      @Justinbyleth Před 2 lety +33

      I feel like for this video, instead of the jokes being in little breaks from the information, they’re packaged in with the information, which keeps the pacing of the video easy to follow

    • @ameuphonium1
      @ameuphonium1 Před 2 lety +5

      I just love the subtly where I didn't start laughing for a sec and had to pause "since horse dewormer hadn't been invented yet..."

  • @RainierKine
    @RainierKine Před 2 lety +382

    Ministry of Magic. Hogwarts has to be somewhere, you see.

    • @adolfodef
      @adolfodef Před 2 lety +23

      Headcanon Accepted.
      -> Also super_valuable statistical information : Wizards OWN ~15% of the designated subdivided private parcels (not necesarily "15% of all surface").

    • @grogipher
      @grogipher Před 2 lety +14

      But Hogwarts is in Scotland...?

    • @Notimp0rtant523
      @Notimp0rtant523 Před 2 lety +6

      That Hogwarts is real, explains why JK Rowling rooted its storytelling in slight racism

    • @richardhall1667
      @richardhall1667 Před 2 lety

      Checks out

    • @johncleese-mogg365
      @johncleese-mogg365 Před 2 lety +1

      Hogwarts is in Scotland

  • @Game_Hero
    @Game_Hero Před 2 lety +14

    1:26 "England" *Shows flag of the UK*

    • @thulex
      @thulex Před 2 lety +1

      Isn't it flown upside down?

    • @hublanderuk
      @hublanderuk Před 2 lety

      I was going to say that nobody seems to have noticed that the flag is upside down. A flag upside down is a sign of distress. The last person I pointed this out to was a Scotsman and he said the Union of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is in distress and left it flying upside down all week. 😀

  • @ohpurpled
    @ohpurpled Před 2 lety +107

    Congrats on not totally messing up England vs Cymru
    No mistakes made here, none at all. No sir-y.

    • @Eggbutts
      @Eggbutts Před 2 lety +1

      He must have meant Great Britain. He just doesn't understand 'cause he's a Scot.

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio Před 2 lety +1

      @@Eggbutts I think he meant the UK.

    • @danm2556
      @danm2556 Před 2 lety +8

      Just say wales and stop being pretentious

    • @hierarchyofroyalty6695
      @hierarchyofroyalty6695 Před 2 lety +2

      @@danm2556 True, Welsh is pretty much a dead language anyway.

    • @thetimelapseguy8
      @thetimelapseguy8 Před 2 lety +15

      ​@@danm2556 Tbf Wales means "foreigners" and Cymru means "friends"

  • @CountSpamaIot
    @CountSpamaIot Před 2 lety +13

    Just a minor correction that early on (even in the 19th century) some areas, particularly around London, had compulsory land registration, but it wasn’t compulsory across the whole of England and Wales until the 1990s as you said.

  • @quuaaarrrk8056
    @quuaaarrrk8056 Před 2 lety +45

    It's the brick factories, so they don't have to pay taxes.

    • @briannem.6787
      @briannem.6787 Před 2 lety +1

      shhhhhhhh we don't speak of bricks here

    • @quuaaarrrk8056
      @quuaaarrrk8056 Před 2 lety

      @@briannem.6787 Why not? I doubt it' airlines.

    • @resolecca
      @resolecca Před 2 lety

      @@quuaaarrrk8056 clearly you havent been a fan of HAI for very long coz you never mention the B word here lol but seriously dont

    • @quuaaarrrk8056
      @quuaaarrrk8056 Před 2 lety

      @@resolecca I have been, I just like the government thinking I’m not suspicious.

  • @raiyan3348
    @raiyan3348 Před 2 lety +28

    The BGM for this is an absolute banger

  • @JustAPolishAmerican
    @JustAPolishAmerican Před 2 lety +32

    Perfect. No views, 0 likes/dislikes and 0 comments.

  • @JackFranco95
    @JackFranco95 Před 2 lety +10

    I’m English and I never knew this. Time to claim 15% of England for myself

  • @mattbastiman7839
    @mattbastiman7839 Před 2 lety +19

    Hoping the next video is the surprising fact that England and Wales are two different countries 👀 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @MuchWhittering
      @MuchWhittering Před rokem

      Neither England nor Wales are countries in any meaningful sense. They're regions of the United Kingdom. England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and more comparable to US states.
      England isn't any more of a country than California is.

  • @robdavy4468
    @robdavy4468 Před 2 lety +19

    Oh the Welsh are going to be upset that you're using a bit of land in Wales to talk about how we don't know who owns land in England...
    (hint: England and Wales are different places)

    • @ruxiist
      @ruxiist Před 2 lety

      Administratively they may as-well have been the same nation up until the advent of the Welsh Assembly. Thats why a lot of the institutions/certifications are England and Wales - because up until then they were treated as one nation.

    • @trickygoose2
      @trickygoose2 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ruxiist Yes, England and Wales have the same legal system, while Scotland has its own legal system.

    • @JackStevensFromWales
      @JackStevensFromWales Před 2 lety

      @@trickygoose2 Wales has a different tax and law system, as well as different health services. The country has had its own government for many years now.

    • @trickygoose2
      @trickygoose2 Před 2 lety

      @@JackStevensFromWales While Wales has some laws that are different to England it does not have a separate legal/courts system, unlike Scotland and Northern Ireland. The Welsh Assembly does not have as many powers as the Scottish Parliament.

    • @JackStevensFromWales
      @JackStevensFromWales Před 2 lety

      @@trickygoose2 covid brought in Welsh only laws that are punishable under Welsh law and have given Welsh police specific laws. By your logic and going by that, Wales should be called Wales, not lumped into England. Right?

  • @PianoBoyLiam
    @PianoBoyLiam Před 2 lety +37

    Fun fact!
    The town name in the beginning of the video is actually not the Welsh towns full name!
    It’s actually, Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.

    • @99xs
      @99xs Před 2 lety +3

      I have a pencil with that name on it when I went to the shop there lol

    • @satnus3388
      @satnus3388 Před 2 lety

      WHAT THE-

    • @ohpurpled
      @ohpurpled Před 2 lety +1

      Except it really isn't

    • @batzzowo8942
      @batzzowo8942 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ohpurpled except for it is, Llanfairpwllgwyngyll is just the shortened version

    • @ohpurpled
      @ohpurpled Před 2 lety

      @@batzzowo8942 the shortened version is Llanfairpwll

  • @gold-star
    @gold-star Před 2 lety +18

    When he says England but uses the UK flag😭. Along with almost everything else when naming literal countries

    • @DKRCecer
      @DKRCecer Před 2 lety

      Also the flag was the upside-down. Most distressing :D

    • @WildBluntHickok
      @WildBluntHickok Před 2 lety

      Also he was actually talking about 15% of England AND Wales, so it should've been 2 flags.

  • @fabionihilkevorkian8074
    @fabionihilkevorkian8074 Před 2 lety +7

    *click on video about england*
    video starts talking about wales
    oh no

  • @jannuarytrash
    @jannuarytrash Před 2 lety +56

    what if we squatted on unregistered british land 😳

    • @joshbentley2307
      @joshbentley2307 Před 2 lety +5

      Then you’d be fine until the owner registers his land.
      In fact if it’s registered and the owner doesn’t kick you off the land within 10 years you can just claim the property, it’s 12 years if it’s not registered.

    • @marsgal42
      @marsgal42 Před 2 lety +6

      An episode of the 1990s TV show Pie in the Sky had a plot involving squatting. A company thought they had it made - squat on some nice land for your new factory for 12 years, the owner never shows up (because he's in jail), it's yours. Until he got early parole...

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname Před 2 lety +1

      You squat on my land (or your dog) for any reason and we will have a real issue.

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat Před 2 lety +1

      @@finscreenname why would I squat on my dog?

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname Před 2 lety

      @@OptimusWombat Just to show them how it feels....or are you above that? 😜

  • @JimTheFly
    @JimTheFly Před 2 lety +11

    "Since nobody had invented horse de-wormer yet..."
    I LITERALLY ALMOST CHOKED ON MY DRINK.
    Well played.

    • @Ravidist
      @Ravidist Před 2 lety +3

      Ivermectin is on the WHO's list of essential medicines

    • @resolecca
      @resolecca Před 2 lety +2

      @@Ravidist for parasites not for covid 🤦

    • @resolecca
      @resolecca Před 2 lety

      @JimTheFly ikr that joke was spectacular (chefs kiss)

    • @eoinoconnell185
      @eoinoconnell185 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Ravidist And the guy who discovered it won the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

    • @scythal
      @scythal Před 2 lety

      @@Ravidist These people are promoting horse-based ivermectin, not the human kind...

  • @SZ71717
    @SZ71717 Před 2 lety +12

    *why nobody knows who owns 15% of England and Wales

    • @noahlaws531
      @noahlaws531 Před 2 lety +2

      That's what I were thinking

    • @SZ71717
      @SZ71717 Před 2 lety +1

      Dominic Chadwick the UK is Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, so it wouldn’t be correct

    • @cloudkitt
      @cloudkitt Před 2 lety

      @@nixd0rf356 A, England is totally a country. B, it shouldn't be 'the UK' because then the 15% would be wrong.

  • @Rgsetters
    @Rgsetters Před 2 lety +7

    You can't just take the land, you need to claim it publicly for a good while and if no one contests your claim. Its yours!!!

  • @ihathtelekinesis
    @ihathtelekinesis Před 2 lety +5

    When I was a trainee doing conveyancing we once had a client buying an unregistered house. Was a real pain in the proverbial as none of the maps in any of the documents had anything to do with each other, and it was really difficult to work out who owned what over the years as people had died and not passed their land on properly.

  • @benfarmer-webb1016
    @benfarmer-webb1016 Před 2 lety +4

    Maybe change the title to England and Wales not just England because Wales and England are two different countries

    • @ruxiist
      @ruxiist Před 2 lety +1

      Yes and no. They are different countries/nations but they have been largely administered as one country since the 13th century - so a lot of what applies to Wales applies in England and vice versa.

  • @Ashleigh_T
    @Ashleigh_T Před 2 lety +5

    Well this video is rather coincidental since I've spent the best part of today looking deep into 1880s property deeds for the railway in Liverpool
    🧐

  • @ihathtelekinesis
    @ihathtelekinesis Před 2 lety +3

    Strictly speaking, compulsory first registration was introduced on a piecemeal basis from 1926, and different parts of the country adopted it at different times. It wasn't until 1990 that everywhere in England and Wales had it.

  • @DavidMorris1984
    @DavidMorris1984 Před 2 lety +2

    I work in local government and I come across unregistered land quite often. Like the video says, there's a lot of properties that haven't changed hands for YEARS, so nobody's registered them. It's a real pain when investigating someone who owes us a lot of money.

  • @sayurik
    @sayurik Před 2 lety +6

    As a person from Singapore (which used to be a British colony) this sounds like a perfect opportunity to play the reverse uno card by squatting some land in the UK 🌚

  • @Cragglerock93
    @Cragglerock93 Před 2 lety +3

    I'd say by far the quickest way to find out would be to set up some illegal encampment of some description, or do some minor damage to the land, block access etc. The owner will come out of the woodwork very quickly!

  • @error-null
    @error-null Před 2 lety +6

    "And that would be true, if it wasn't in fact, also false!" I'm going to be using that much more often now

  • @theoriginalhegs94
    @theoriginalhegs94 Před 2 lety +3

    A new Domesday Book, the "Modern Domesday" Book, was compiled and published in 1873, which updated estate rolls for England and Wales. The purpose of the books isn't to establish a perfect up to date list of current ownership, but to source who the original owner of a property is - that way you can determine what the legal title the current owner actually has (you cannot give away a title greater than the one you have, so it's important to know what the starting point is). The ideal is that you search back through every transaction on the estate/parcel (or for the specific owners if the jurisdiction you're in records titles solely based on buyer&seller) until you get all the way back to the "True Owner." In the United States that is the state, in England that is generally the crown.

  • @milseq
    @milseq Před 2 lety +2

    This video has some serious "history of the entire world, i guess" vibes. Love it!

  • @james-and-his-stuff
    @james-and-his-stuff Před 2 lety +10

    Wales is not england.

  • @KestrelTown
    @KestrelTown Před 2 lety +7

    Why does the thumbnail refer to England but has Wales in it?

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 Před 2 lety +1

      The longer and more boring answer tho is cause it's a map of the UK (which includes both England and Wales) since that's what this video is about

    • @KnightThomash
      @KnightThomash Před 2 lety +2

      @@xp8969 Except it is not as Northern Ireland and Scotland are blank on the Map. Only Wales and England have detail.

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 Před 2 lety

      @@KnightThomash I never said it was all encompassing and included the entirety of the UK lol, I was literally just explaining why it included Wales

  • @TheSheap
    @TheSheap Před 2 lety +1

    Happened with my grandparents house. They bought it new in the early 1960’s and it was only first registered in 2014 once the house was sold after they’d both died. I believe that one of the crowns estates was the first to be registered with HMLR.

  • @thePronto
    @thePronto Před 2 lety +2

    William the Conqueror wasn't French, he was Norman, which is a French euphemism for 'Viking'. If you watched the TV series 'Vikings', Rollo (Ragnar's brother) was his great-great-great grandfather.

    • @nikolai877
      @nikolai877 Před rokem +1

      He also didn't want to "live up to his name", he just wanted to replace his old nickname because he felt it sounded like a slur.

  • @dougfowler1368
    @dougfowler1368 Před 2 lety +3

    I wonder how exact some of these descriptions were when they were registered. I know someone who inherited land from their mom in very rural Kentucky just a few years ago. Part of the property description was "a stone at the edge of the woods, to the (some name) property line" and so on. Obviously the woods expanded since that was written decades earlier, compounding the problem.

  • @ComputerBusterGamer
    @ComputerBusterGamer Před 2 lety +21

    Got a spot for your next mistake video, at 2:28 you show an old drawing of the black death over England. Unfortunately this image also extends over the English border and into Scotland. A separate country with entirely different (and more interesting) land ownership laws.

    • @chewu
      @chewu Před 2 lety +7

      Actually that map is correct for the time, roughly. Look up the Treaty of Newcastle (1334).

    • @ComputerBusterGamer
      @ComputerBusterGamer Před 2 lety +3

      @@chewu that's a good point actually, that's some serious attention to detail on their part that I missed out on.
      I should know better being a Scot with a focused interested on my country's history.

    • @chewu
      @chewu Před 2 lety +3

      @@ComputerBusterGamer That's if the meant to or not! And sure, you can't know everything.

  • @kaned5543
    @kaned5543 Před 2 lety +1

    This is one of the funniest HAI videos I've seen in a while

  • @viktorkomatovic7142
    @viktorkomatovic7142 Před 2 lety +5

    Nice video=) Keep up the good work.

  • @detroxx56784
    @detroxx56784 Před 2 lety +4

    Some of the land is probably also owned by people who died a while ago but who don't have any descendants/family. So now the land is either owned by a dead person or nobody at all.

    • @trickygoose2
      @trickygoose2 Před 2 lety +1

      If the person has not made a will and doesn't have any descendants entitled to inherit, the estate passes to the crown (effectively the people of the UK), who would usually sell it.

    • @RJSRdg
      @RJSRdg Před rokem +1

      @@trickygoose2 But only if the Crown know that the deceased owned it....

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 Před 2 lety +4

    as a Brazilian who owns land, I can assure you that, even when you have paperwork dating back to at least the 1950s, dominial chains are still needed to assure that your grandpa didn't steal that plot from someone else's grandpa

  • @dougle03
    @dougle03 Před 2 lety +1

    Technically speaking, all land in the United Kingdom (England, Northern Ireland, Scotland & Wales) belongs to the crown (Queen Elizabeth II). The Land register records on her behalf those people or entities that have aquired rights to occupy said land. Ownership is generally permission to occupy the surface, but it does not generally allow for mining, ownership of any buried minerals, neither does it allow for space above the land. The deeds to a property and the land that property stands on are effectively a long lease from the crown. So any unregistered land is of course owned by the crown, but the right to occupy might not be so clearly cut.
    Fun fact; Technically the Crown also own all of Canada, Australia and many other land masses of the commonwealth.

  • @MarcFresko
    @MarcFresko Před 2 lety

    Its not just old fields that are unregistered. I lived for 25 years on a road that was unregistered - and this in London, only a handful of years ago! The road gave access to about 100 homes, each one built on registered land. But the actual roadway was (still is) unregistered. This leads to some anomalies, such as not being able to prove you have right of access to your own home (don't worry, there are ways around that). Then a couple of decades ago a new strip of land appeared on Land Registry plans - a narrow strip about 2 metres wide between the road and our property - separate to the road but also unregistered. It is thought that the non-registration of the road dates back to a registration error when the road was carved out of a farm, and I'm guessing the new strip was created as an unintended consequence of digitising all the Land Registry maps and plans.

  • @lemon9389
    @lemon9389 Před 2 lety +18

    HAI: Posts video on England
    The Queen: Nervous sweating*

  • @nenadjuric8824
    @nenadjuric8824 Před 2 lety +9

    _laughs in pandora papers_

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 Před 2 lety +1

      😬 Nothing to see here, move along...

  • @caiomvd
    @caiomvd Před 2 lety +1

    I loved the silky smooth transition to saving time! 👌

    • @audreyhill1200
      @audreyhill1200 Před 2 lety

      👆👆👆👆👆👆..

    • @RJSRdg
      @RJSRdg Před rokem

      I saved time by stopping the video at that point ;-)

  • @aformofmatter8913
    @aformofmatter8913 Před 2 lety +1

    It seems like this could be easily solved by the government just going "Hey, if you own unregistered land, you better register it or we'll just assume you don't exist & take it from you! You've got 5 years" or something

  • @michaelromanenchuk3682
    @michaelromanenchuk3682 Před 2 lety +3

    Ask in the local pub - ah yes, England

  • @niccurl9718
    @niccurl9718 Před 2 lety +6

    The very first time I have ever clicked Ona. CZcams notification 😂😂

  • @christinagarrett
    @christinagarrett Před 2 lety

    I'm seriously digging the music in this video!

  • @PiddeBas
    @PiddeBas Před 2 lety

    1:10 "Let them eat cake", nice reference

  • @dr.robertnick9599
    @dr.robertnick9599 Před 2 lety +13

    Is... it a thing to squat for a living? Like... would'nt you be able to just go to some of these unregistered areas, squat here and there and then sell the land you were able to claim? Might make an interesting TV show.

    • @TT-hd3zi
      @TT-hd3zi Před 2 lety

      Yes, you could.

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 Před 2 lety +8

      Wouldn't it take like 30 years

    • @TT-hd3zi
      @TT-hd3zi Před 2 lety +11

      @@crackedemerald4930 the whole process takes 12 years if the land is privately owned, 30 years if it’s owned by the royal family.

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 Před 2 lety

      @@TT-hd3zi it would be the longest running television series in the universe

    • @hucklebucklin
      @hucklebucklin Před 2 lety +3

      @@TT-hd3zi they can still show up and throw you ofd their land

  • @boarbot7829
    @boarbot7829 Před 2 lety +5

    Of course I know him, he’s me.

  • @michaelnelson2976
    @michaelnelson2976 Před 2 lety +1

    This is incredible and I appreciate it

  • @weizhanghao5126
    @weizhanghao5126 Před 2 lety

    I just love the transition to the ad.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Před 2 lety +4

    "and that would be true, too, if it weren't false"

  • @ronanmurphy98
    @ronanmurphy98 Před 2 lety +3

    I had the option to study English Land Law this semester... damn it I missed out 😭

    • @hucklebucklin
      @hucklebucklin Před 2 lety +1

      You in UCD? You're better off if you didnt!

    • @hucklebucklin
      @hucklebucklin Před 2 lety

      Also Ireland has unreg land too hahhaha

    • @ronanmurphy98
      @ronanmurphy98 Před 2 lety

      @@hucklebucklin Trinity here, 3rd year. Loved land law all the same.

  • @EdgyShooter
    @EdgyShooter Před 2 lety

    I have a feeling that a large amount of this land probably is inhospitable areas of what used to be large estates. When the estates were split, no one bought the crap areas and so eventually they just got left to time

  • @loc4725
    @loc4725 Před 2 lety

    Land can be held in corporation, so just sell the corporation and you don't have to register either the land (if currently unregistered) or the sale of said land.

  • @mark6bat
    @mark6bat Před 2 lety +11

    Are you trying to upset the Welsh? 😂

    • @noahlaws531
      @noahlaws531 Před 2 lety +1

      Poor bloke probably doesn't realise what he's done

    • @cloudkitt
      @cloudkitt Před 2 lety

      @@noahlaws531 I think he lives in the UK, actually. Or at least did?

    • @mark6bat
      @mark6bat Před 2 lety

      @@cloudkitt If you see Sam's TikToks he definitely isn't in the UK

  • @Annadog40
    @Annadog40 Před 2 lety +5

    Change title to the UK not England

    • @ohpurpled
      @ohpurpled Před 2 lety +3

      Would still be wrong, just in a different way

    • @noahlaws531
      @noahlaws531 Před 2 lety +6

      Just England + wales. Not the UK

  • @Beefystew101
    @Beefystew101 Před 2 lety

    “Since de-wormer wasn’t invented yet”🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @-xirx-
    @-xirx- Před 2 lety +1

    There are library's of those sticks in England. It is quite something to behold!

  • @adissiusly
    @adissiusly Před 2 lety +8

    That Marie Antoinette reference of "Let them eat cake" at 1:09 is great

  • @tobiascuyps
    @tobiascuyps Před 2 lety +4

    "Nobody had invented horse de-wormer yet" lmaoo

    • @hayleyxyz
      @hayleyxyz Před 2 lety

      That tickled me too lol

    • @resolecca
      @resolecca Před 2 lety

      ikr that joke was spectacular (chefs kiss)

  • @rattiofficial
    @rattiofficial Před 2 lety

    What's the name of the background music / where to get it? O,o

  • @ocudagledam
    @ocudagledam Před 2 lety +2

    Video: "England has a pretty bad history of keeping track of England..." Me: "Wait, didn't England have a meticulous property registry as far as somewhere around the turn of the millennium, the Doomsday Book?!" Video: "Yes... and it's also the last time they could be bothered to make something like that."

  • @hypnotoad28
    @hypnotoad28 Před 2 lety +4

    I'd like to see/hear (hmm) a video about early land ownership in the US, as well. Seems like it was pretty gung-ho, and if you murdered some landowners it's yours quick as that (at least in some cases). Gives me wild west vibes thinking about it, but of course it kinda was like that, at least at one point.

  • @OtakuUnitedStudio
    @OtakuUnitedStudio Před 2 lety +31

    Video title really ought to be "Why Nobody Knows Who Owns 15% of the UK", since a good chuck of that 15% isn't actually in ENGLAND.

    • @user-xi6by2we2i
      @user-xi6by2we2i Před 2 lety +4

      Yes but Americans don't understand the difference so it would make them upset.

    • @marsilies
      @marsilies Před 2 lety +16

      Technically, the HM Land Registry only covers England and Wales. So the video titles should be "Why Nobody Knows Who Owns 15% of England & Wales".

    • @ohpurpled
      @ohpurpled Před 2 lety +1

      But we do know who owns Scotland & NI, so the 15% figure would be even wrong-er

    • @cloudkitt
      @cloudkitt Před 2 lety +1

      No, the 15% doesn't include Scotland and Northern Ireland, so if it was the UK the number would change.

  • @jack1701e
    @jack1701e Před 2 lety

    Well... Time to get that flagpole and find some land for myself!! I do wonder if I can make a micronation in one of these portions of land.

  • @JohnSmiffer
    @JohnSmiffer Před 2 lety

    Just discovered this channel, it's great for learning if you want to not really learn anything.

  • @TheDeadmanTT
    @TheDeadmanTT Před 2 lety +4

    Stealing from the aristocracy is my 4th favourite thing to do with the aristocracy.
    HINT, all of the top 3 rhyme with licking.
    Also one of them is licking.

  • @brendank2197
    @brendank2197 Před 2 lety +3

    2:30 Wales is part of England?

    • @Tourist1967
      @Tourist1967 Před 2 lety

      No, but the principality of Wales has the same legal system as England. Scotland and, to a lesser extent, Northern Ireland do not.

  • @BrendaK7200
    @BrendaK7200 Před 2 lety +1

    1:55 I hate to be that guy, but William the Conqueror was only called that AFTER he conquered England. Prior to that he was known as William the Bastard.

  • @rustybarnes4207
    @rustybarnes4207 Před 2 lety

    I love how the music sounds like you're planning to heist all 15% of England's unregistered land

  • @MangoMonkey
    @MangoMonkey Před 2 lety +4

    I’ll buy it

  • @saberwolfcdw
    @saberwolfcdw Před 2 lety +22

    OMG I literally spit out my water when "they hadnt invented horse de-wormer yet" came on! LOL

  • @A190xx
    @A190xx Před 2 lety +1

    Is it disingenuous to say "nobody knows", which would be more accurately stated as the HM Land Registry does not hold a record. Ownership can be easily established for most of the 15% of the land and asking in the pub in villages is better than the internet, which the search fee equating to a few pints of beer and a hangover. Unregistered properties are still regularly sold with very few issues.
    There are tracts of land though where there is no known ownership - usually overgrown plots between gardens - and there is a process for dealing with these. If an owner manages the land for 12 years (cuts the grass and mends the fences) with no-one making a claim on it, they can apply for "possessory title" which is ratified as "absolute title" after a further 3 years.

  • @GonN2003
    @GonN2003 Před 2 lety

    Hello, can you give the details about the background music? Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • @minecrafter0505
    @minecrafter0505 Před 2 lety +7

    I hope someone in 200-300 years finds this video and wonders why HAI references horse-dewormer.

    • @jsquared1013
      @jsquared1013 Před 2 lety +2

      Media disinformation campaign to discredit a legitimate anti-parasitic/anti-viral medicine that was developed for use in humans, approved by the FDA for humans in 1981, and whose inventors earned a Nobel prize. Hahaha so funny.

    • @ArchibaldClumpy
      @ArchibaldClumpy Před 2 lety +2

      @@jsquared1013 It isn't disinformation to point out that the medicine hasn't been approved for Covid and then to mock people who take the frickin horse version rather than get a damn vaccine.

    • @resolecca
      @resolecca Před 2 lety

      @@jsquared1013 yeah, coz parasites are viruses are totally the same thing, that's like using an antibiotic to stop a headache, even though antibiotics are proven to work to fight bacterial infections they do nothing to treat a headache 🤦

  • @cappyjones
    @cappyjones Před 2 lety +3

    2:27 I love the shade! 🤣

  • @justindover7015
    @justindover7015 Před 2 lety +2

    People are only getting the horse dewormer( which can be used in the correct doses) becasue pharmacies are refusing to fill prescriptions for political reasons.

    • @resolecca
      @resolecca Před 2 lety

      yeah, coz parasites are viruses are totally the same thing, that's like using an antibiotic to stop a headache, even though antibiotics are proven to work to fight bacterial infections they do nothing to treat a headache 🤦

  • @shashanktrivedi27
    @shashanktrivedi27 Před 2 lety +1

    Brits surveyed all land of my country and assigned them revenue survey nos. Every village have revenue survey number and cities have city survey number.

  • @joecarstairs2459
    @joecarstairs2459 Před 2 lety +13

    Hey I love how you use "England", "England & Wales" and "Britain" interchangeably. I love it when Mexicans treat different countries as synonymous

    • @GuidanceAble22
      @GuidanceAble22 Před 2 lety +1

      Actually the legal systems in the UK are divided (generally) between: (1) England and Wales; (2) Scotland; and (3) Northern Ireland so it probably was deliberate. Scotland has it's own land registry.

  • @jakobbrown3291
    @jakobbrown3291 Před 2 lety +3

    Nobody knows who owns 15% of England… uses wales as an example…

  • @Dark_Detective
    @Dark_Detective Před 2 lety

    Got to love that background music

  • @alanford4535
    @alanford4535 Před 2 lety +1

    I feel like that's rural Eastern Europe too. I know so many patches of land that are supposed to be my grandpa's, everybody knows it's his but the government.