2025 VW Golf R facelift Premiere REVIEW
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This is our in-depth review of the 2025 VW Golf R facelift (Golf 8.5). We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
00:00 Golf R facelift
00:48 DCC suspension
01:10 Engine power upgrade
02:50 Forged wheels
03:20 New rear design
03:37 Akrapovic exhaust sound
04:32 Golf R Black Edition
05:34 Acceleration and top speed
06:20 Interior quality
06:40 Steering wheel
07:30 Sports seats
08:18 Cockpit and modes
10:07 Rear seats
11:01 Trunk / boot
11:28 Towing and Chat GPT
#VW #GolfR
Data & facts:
VW Golf R facelift
New Front with air curtains and lights, illuminated VW logo front, LED plus standard, optional IQ Light matrix LED
18“ standard, optional 19“ or 19“ forged wheels (20 percent lighter)
DCC adaptive suspension standard depending on market, -20 mm
Still lower in price
Optional Abramovic exhaust for hatch
4,28 m 169“
4,63 m 182“ Variant
Black Edition with blacked out logos and performance pack
Performance Pack adds Special and Drift mode
2.0 l 4-cyl 333 hp (+13 hp) AWD with torque vectoring 7-DSG
4,6 Sek (Variant 4,8 Sek) 0-100 km/h (0,1 sec better each)
Up to vmax 270 km/h with performance pack (otherwise 250 km/h)
Engine startup with higher rev: Press start button for 1,5 Sek without brake pedal and then press brake pedal
10“ digital instruments with new views and acceleration timer
13“ Infotainment update
New steering wheel with bigger paddles and ergonomic form
Capacitve R button on steering wheel updated against unintentional press
Chat GPT integration
Sport seats with integrated head restraints fabric/microfibre
Real carbon fibre decor available
1,9 t towing
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This is our in-depth review of the 2025 VW Golf R facelift (Golf 8.5). We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
00:00 Golf R facelift
00:48 DCC suspension
01:10 Engine power upgrade
02:50 Forged wheels
03:20 New rear design
03:37 Akrapovic exhaust sound
04:32 Golf R Black Edition
05:34 Acceleration and top speed
06:20 Interior quality
06:40 Steering wheel
07:30 Sports seats
08:18 Cockpit and modes
10:07 Rear seats
11:01 Trunk / boot
11:28 Towing and Chat GPT
#VW #GolfR
I t needs to offer a manual transmission. Even if you had to pay 5000 extra for it, it would be worth it.
That's a perfect tone of blue.
Thomas blue?
Agree but still I rather Subaru Impreza WRX STI rally blue
Lapiz, Subaru and VW Monza are the best blues.
I have my arteon in that color. It’s absolutely stunning. Chips pretty easily unfortunately
BMW San Marino Blue
Can't wait for the center stick-on screen era to end! They are the 50's tail fins of the 20's.
Very true. I hate these tacked-on tablet like screens. They would deter me from buying a car fitted with them.
Totally agree. That’s why I kept away from all the new Audi S models
That is an L take, simply because the tail fins from the 50s look awesome...the screens, do not....but judging by your PFP, you are not a person of taste.
They do that to save money, but then charge you more. It's horrible, same as the iPad wedged into the front of the dash in my wife's AMG A45s.
Luckily 8 is still available with a better integrated screen
Thomas pumping out videos faster than i can shift. 😅
*than. "Than" and "then" similarly spelled words but completely different meanings. In this context, it is "than".
@@LordStaindI can tell what he means just fine.
@@LordStaind With the integration of technology, Social Media, Artificial Intelligence, et cetera, people are getting lazier and lazier (sadly, so is their vocabulary). While some think of the English language as evolving for the newer generations, others will beg to differ.
@LordStaind Well, english is (clearly) not my first language, so my apologies. I'll try better next time. :-)
Oh please. Tell me how many languages you can speak fluently without any errors.
Data & facts:
VW Golf R facelift
New Front with air curtains and lights, illuminated VW logo front, LED plus standard, optional IQ Light matrix LED
18“ standard, optional 19“ or 19“ forged wheels (20 percent lighter)
DCC adaptive suspension standard depending on market, -20 mm
Still lower in price
Optional Abramovic exhaust for hatch
4,28 m 169“
4,63 m 182“ Variant
Black Edition with blacked out logos and performance pack
Performance Pack adds Special and Drift mode
2.0 l 4-cyl 333 hp (+13 hp) AWD with torque vectoring 7-DSG
4,6 Sek (Variant 4,8 Sek) 0-100 km/h (0,1 sec better each)
Up to vmax 270 km/h with performance pack (otherwise 250 km/h)
Engine startup with higher rev: Press start button for 1,5 Sek without brake pedal and then press brake pedal
10“ digital instruments with new views and acceleration timer
13“ Infotainment update
New steering wheel with bigger paddles and ergonomic form
Capacitve R button on steering wheel updated against unintentional press
Chat GPT integration
Sport seats with integrated head restraints fabric/microfibre
Real carbon fibre decor available
1,9 t towing
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Is it because the golf r was researched before the gti that it still has capacitive steering buttons? Only vw could make such a terrible decision 😢
@@AndreiAnastasescu Abramovic exhaust?😉
Can't wait to see what dealer markup will be on the Black Edition.. That Akrapovic exhaust won't make it Stateside like the earlier R variants. Unless it comes standard on the infamous black edition. I don't think creating a black edition is necessary. Meh. And to think the successor to the Golf R will be EV? 🤦
I actually gasped when you showed the black edition. I was not expecting that!
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I don't usually like black cars but that Black Edition is pretty badass.
Stealthy.
A nightmare to keep them looking good though.
But why not make the R with the real buttons, cmon! Capacitive buttons are such a shame (
Capacitive is so much better than physical buttons. Looks more sleek. I wish I would’ve waited. I went with the 24R since I thought they were going physical buttons
Cost cutting is always the answer.
@@sebastianstoica578 yeah, but they released the GTI with the physical ones, so why take the step back with the R which is the top model in the lineup?
@@vwmafia1360 Looks more sleek??? Who the hell wants to look at the buttons??? I want to press damn buttons
The capacitive touch on my Mk8 has been easy to use and a non issue for two years. Its sleek and stream lined.
In Japan your autotubes are becoming popular day by day. We enjoy every time.
We send you videos from Europe. You send us Levorg STI in exchange! Thank you
love the black R
Nice review, Thomas.
The golf 7.5 r is still a good looking car
YES
So old
As an Mk7 owner I'll be the first one to tell you it's one of the designs of all time.
looks kinda outdated from the front. Rear looks good though
I took this over the 8R. I am not completely sold on the 8.5R just yet. Trying to justify the price hike. I may just wait a year or so and find a used one low miles CPO one owner. Paying msrp is ridiculous, imo. You can use the extra cash for mods :D
I appreciate that VW sittl makes the GTI and R for the USA market. I see cost cutting like no gas hood strut, the engine bay is not body colored, and other little things. If VW has to do these things to keep the price down without affecting reliability and performance I consider that a win. It just would be nice if VW would do these 2 things for the USA market. 1. Why oh why can't VW make a Water Pump gasket that won't leak? Seriously, don't you see how this affects your brand "Reliability" how hard can it be to make a water pump housing that won't leak after 40k miles? 2. Why only have DI fuel delivery? We have carbon issues on the intake valves here in the USA which is another expense where some have to have the intake valves media blasted at a cost of $800 some as early as 50k miles. Toyota has dual injection here in the USA so VW can't say its for emissions reasons, but rather a cost savings that is hurting VW's reputation for reliability and cost of ownership here in the USA. Other than that, Great Cars👍
This could go down in unintentional ASMR history.
Also those seats with the pattern and the blue highlights are 🔥🔥🔥
That black edition deserves a Batman beyond logo !
This is the best channel for car reveals.
Looks amazing!
You know what I want in cars, a true individual mode, a mode that has an algorithm that learns about your driving style, adapts and tailors the cars response to your liking, to increase driving pleasure.
Wow this generation put the golf back on my wish list ❤❤❤ stunning look❤❤❤
Liking it already!
Thanks a lot for never leaving car enthusiasts waiting . No compromises here . The best reviewer is also the fastest to upload a video for a car making its debut 👍
What is it with embargos all dropping at the same time lately 😂 First X3 and E53 last week and today M5 and Golf R
yeah its totally crazy atm !
I'm loving it ❤
Aerodynamics 🤔
the infotainment's been ''upgraded'' and that's it, no gas struts no electric tailgate, not even a badge on the engine cover, would it cost this much to make it a bit exclusive, this car is quite expensive
@@MrLoose26 I'm always surprised by the absence of gas struts in such relatively expensive cars. Insane
Who cares?? 😖
I guess that's why they're saying it'll be cheaper 😂 but yeah, engine bay looks cheap.
@@geronimooo260 Quite a few people it seems. It makes the car feel cheap. Not good.
Absolutely awesome 😎
Hey, it comes with the engine cover now!!!!!!!
VW (the second largest carmaker in the world) finally figured out how to make them without it catching fire. Still, no 40k car should come without struts. That was a Golf from 40 years ago.
Great content 👌 👏 👍
Question, can you get the new golf r without a sunroof 🤔
Thanks keep up the great content
If I'm not mistaken, that's the only option.
Looks fantastic
Thank you for the review as usually, this time I'm more personally interested because I have a Golf R Variant Mk 7 and the facelift version of the Mk 8 Variant will be my next car. Thank you for the information that the facelifted R also comes as a wagon because even my VW dealer wasn't sure if there would be an R Variant after the facelift. So, after your review I have definitely found my next car 😊.
Who at VW is insisting on these touch buttons. The physical buttons on GTI 8.5 are so well received, why not the same on R? Seems Golf 7 will stay desirable for one more generation.
Wow 👀 they outdid themselves
That's a very nice Golf
Hallo Thomas, what does "Autogefühl" mean?
hey! Car feeling
When the ipad blocks some vision of the windscreen you know it's too large and intrusive. An option for an 8inch would be appreciated.
or retractable screen would be nice. But one less thing to worry about breaking I guess. Though the ipad is quite obnoxious.
Should be integrated into the dashboard, like on my RS3 8Y. They save a load of money in production by fitting that type of screen, Merc do it as well. I don't like them at all.
I clicked on the thumbnail because of the spectacular colour.
beautiful wheels
Black! Perfect
The black!! Wtf ❤❤😮 super good
Pretty wheels! 😮
Thomas, any updates on the sound system? I drove the Mark 8 for a week and was really disappointed at how bad music sounded. Hoping once again that they make the more comfortable fabric available for all markets.
nothing special indeed m8
NO STEERING WHEEL BUTTONS. WHY.
G.9 will have
@@_b_k I fear G9 will also be EV.. 🤦
It has steering wheel buttons
Last internal combustion golf from what I know
@@justpixelbee Maybe they say like that but they will make a combustion engines in the future because electric doesn’t make any sense and nobody will buy it
That’s one of things I’ve always mentioned when people ask me how I like my MK7 GTI. I’ve always mentioned the quality of the doors and trunk sounds. Everything has a high quality heft and solid thunk when opening and closing.
i love the wheels and the entire car in general 😊
I honestly love VW, in my country ( South Africa ) it's extremely popular. My dad owned VR6 MK3, MK4 Golf GTI, MK6 Golf GTI and R, MK7 GTI and R. He saved the MK4 for me and i love it, it has well over a Million kilometers, by now it has more lol. I can't wait to buy my own MK8 Golf !
The Black version is wonderful! Can’t wait for your driving video. But NO manual 😂
2024 golf R owner here, not much different in the 2025 by the looks of it. The larger middle screen is probably the only big difference but i prefer the previous screen setup that is in mine, the cockpit flows better with them lined up together facing the driver side slightly. The illuminated VW logo is another one but i can easily just buy an illuminated logo. As for the small engine upgrade, mechanically nothing has changed from 2024-2025 just a slight tune but its the same engine and same mechanically. Happy as a 2024 owner that the changes are minimum/not noticeable.
That aside for anyone looking at a golf R as their next car they are an incredible daily driver fun and practical.
Beautiful car ❤
Yes they will take my money thank you!!!
Locks so cool forged wheel
Black edition looks dope😮
I think it looks rather good and not all dopey as you suggest.
Damn, that black edition looks sick :D Formentor need black or tribe edition but also with black headlights :) dunno how much will estate cost.
This looks amazing! Thank god VW saved the Golf with the release of the facelift. Might trade on my 7R for this guy. Black Edition all the way!
VW still cheaped out on the front brake calipers by not going for a fixed 4 piston but rather sticking with the single piston floating calipers. Also a prop rod to hold up the hood??? The Mk 7 had a single piston strut for the front. Clearly the accountants got the better of it by eliminating a $30 strut in favour of a $15 prop rod. The blue colour is awesome but I would take the Golf R Estate though
Even my friend's Renault Megane which costed 25k new had 2 gas struts under the hood
One thing I like about the Golf R it’s faster than the MINI Countryman by far now.
Is the middle of the Black Edition different from the standard model?
So no one's gonna talk about ChatGPT integrated in the car now? ☠️
Thanks
Interested in the price point for the black edition. Thinking dealer markup will be premium.
I love blue.
Delivered video as promised! 😊
I'm glad I've waited, hoping for an Mk8.5. It's better than I hoped so I'll be calling my guy to get money on an allocation ASAP LOL
I'm also trying for an allocation, good luck to you 👊
Can you deactivate/chatgpt in the car? I was all in until that part.
Will 1.4 tsi r line come out too?
I’m not sure about the wheels. Thinking I like the preface lift better
Personally I think the wheels look better than the Pretorias. Not as nice as the Estorils tough.
Look forward to buying one on the used market in about 10 years 😂
The capacitive BS on the steering wheel is so BS :) we need physical climate knobs, media buttons volume knobs and _physical_ steering wheel knobs. Is that that hard?
Sliding volume strip ffs... Also as you said, sliding fingers on the steering wheel.
Just drove 1300km in the facelifted T-Roc, loved the physical buttons on the steering wheel at least. 100% operation without looking
i wont lie i like black trim/black "version" on cars..... but that black edition looks like an insurance company's nightmare after the hrs of 7pm XD
so they removed the spider gear from the rear LSD? is there a benefit to doing that besides a negligible weight saving?
I don't think weight saving is the goal. The clutch packs allows them to varies the amount of torque to each rear wheel, so they can use the rear to reduce understeer and do fun things like drift.
@@jenny80myles not what i'm asking, i know the function of clutch packs in LSDs. I ask about the removal of the spider gear. Most modern LSDs have the same clutch packs, but retain the spider gear. This is useful in normal, low power/speed turning where the spider gears act like an open diff, without unnecessary wear on the clutches
@@gumpert7611 You don't need the spider gear in a FWD platform because you don't need to maintain drive force in the rear and can just let them roll. Does that answer your question?
@@jenny80myles ah yes that makes sense. thanks
I don't fucking understand this. You already did the plastic molding for the buttons with the GTI... just share it with the Golf R?!
To create variation between models?
But yeah… capasitive ”buttons” are bad…
Big screen, not fond of it… tiny shift handle, not fond of it. Fabric seats, it’s ok… the rest, I love it!!
Oh, yeah. I'm glad I waited. Of COURSE their will be nit-pickers, but I will be buying one this year or next.
Still no estate here in the states because VW hates us it would seem. I'm not a big fan of the screen, it's just out there and needs to be integrated into the dash. I'm also bummed about the return of haptics. I'm also surprised that the diff is clutch packs in stead of ball/roller thrust.
And is it just me or is there LESS rear passenger space in this one?
Guess I'll keep my 7.5 GTi Autobahn for now. Much as I love the new hardware of this car, the haptic thing is a deal breaker for me. I miss when VW designed cars for the driver and safety including distractions from driving. I don't need an almost 200mph fidget spinner ffs.
I just bought the 24 Elantra N in a similar shade of blue, I love my car but wow the exterior and interior improvements of this car, absolutely beautiful. I part of me wishes I would've waited, but then I'm reminded at this cost difference between them, the Elantra N offers a lot for what it is at $35K, This car top spec would be $50K. Perhaps it'll be my next one when I get bored of the EN or want to move up to something with better interior quality.
Hey, congrats on your '24 Elantra N! I currrently have my '16 Veloster Turbo and loved it for what it was. Mind you, I was coming from a 2014 GT-R!!! I'm sure you will have fun with the N, Hyundai has come a LONG way in this segment of tuner vehicles etc. At one point I did want a Veloster N, but a colleague of mine said to wait for the Mk. 8.5, and well, here I am.
I thought VW moved on from having the ACC radar exposed like that.
I feel like having it exposed makes it more prone to getting damaged
It’s also really ugly.
@@cleevensjoseph exactly.
Piano black plastic on the leading edge of a car. On what planet is that a good idea?
Can't wait for some expensive part to fail that's not in stock because its only on this edition. True VW experience.
I would also spray paint the brakes black, so that it goes well with pre-scratched premium black plastic... German Quality...
im getting th black edition next year forsure...best believe.
Choices choices as an Audi man should I go for the S3 or Golf R??
Golf R 100%
Golf R.
I love the S3. But I’ve really, really, loved my R. In part because it’s even more fun to drive than the 3, in my opinion. But also because the hatch is great to have. I use it all the time to haul things around. Especially plants - lol.
S3 saloon.
Unless you want physical buttons and climate controls get the Golf R.
End of the for internal combustion Golf
gti has physical button but golf r has touch button. Why...
Tuch button is perfect I have on my golf 8 gti it's just a matter of habit
@@almirmujkanovic2444 I had mk7 golf r. I love those physical buttons.
The R button. Too expensive for a bespoke mold for a low production vehicle.
Because they ordered a warehouse full of them. What else are the going to do with them?
@@TheRacingShawnoke with 7r look better but with 8 physical button is horrible
I wish they would of made the new 2025 Jetta gli with a new updated engine and bigger center screen
اليوم العالمي للاصدارات الجديدة 🎉
Nice interior than b4
Surprised they didn't do push buttons on the steering wheel (I don't mind them but a lot of people don't like them). Shocked they put microfiber fabric on the seats!!
the updated headlights make it look better but the Christmas lichts up front just look really dumb
I find it strange the location of the R branding is on the door now opposed to the fender.. VW follows the trend of creating a "black edition", smfh. A retractable touch-screen in the cabin would seem to be expected by now. On the other hand, I guess it's one less thing to worry about breaking. Also, would VW really break the bank by adding brembo calipers? Wait till the dealers get ahold of the infamous black edition. I'll be surprised to see if the Akrapovic exhaust makes it Stateside on the black edition.
I wish VW paid more attention to their customers feedback instead of following trends. 🤦
Good to see #CapacitiveBS is still alive and well 🤣
It's subtle but the headlights are nicer and car definitly looks lower.
better than new s3
かっこいい！欲しいかも！
Is this a review or just an extended infomercial? Apart from the comment on the lack of gas struts I can’t recall any actual opinions in this video, just reeling off the stats and changes VW have made.
We always present all pros and cons. Also that the Golf R is the only one still with capacitive bs buttons on the steering wheel. Not sure if you have watched full length but in every review we give the same pros and cons in the same fair and balanced way with all brands and vehicles
Stealth Black and so go on 🙂
Normal Golf, normal buttons. Golf GTI, normal buttons. Why the hell they use capacitive buttons in R?!? They have brains or what???
will there be a perfomance version of this?
The R IS the Golf performance version. Are you being sarcastic?
@@krane15 no, there was for the last two years I think, golf r, and golf r performance
So the Black Edition comes with chrome window surrounds...steering wheel's gone mad😪😢😭 and yet... still seems better than the M5 atm.
A few different colours would be nice
All at the same time the new golf r the new m5 and the new Astonmartin like wtf
yes really just incredible
Now vw are talking…finally the perfect golf after mk5~ both the r n gti rims were designed with heritage in mind, fixed previous imperfection in style…good job vw design team~ i guess the merc a35 has true rival then… 😎✌🏻
As much as I am a fan of VW's. I think I would opt for the S3 over the Golf R
A great preview, and the improved lighting techniques of dark interiors noted and much appreciated.
At one point I had an R32, which was wonderful. If this new version had to be my last ICE car before I went EV, I doubt I would complain. The hatch version of course.