The Pros and Cons of Steel House Frames

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • If you are considering whether to use steel or timber frames in your next home, you've probably heard many conflicting opinions on the matter. We discuss the benefits of steel vs timber frames.
    In this video we look at the benefits and disadvantages of using steel frames in your home. We also dispel some of the myths that seem to be circulating about steel house frames.
    For more great videos visit www.CompleteSteelFrames.com.au

Komentáře • 221

  • @kermitefrog64
    @kermitefrog64 Před 4 lety +7

    We have termite problems in parts of the San Joaquin Valley in California, so this is good information to be aware of.

  • @HickoryDickory86
    @HickoryDickory86 Před 5 lety +71

    I know it's your job to be biased and sell the steel frames, but a little extra effort added to the cons list would go a long way. Not myths, but things people should be aware of. For example: Steel is much more conductive than wood, so steel studs are far better thermal bridges than timber studs. Therefore, a continuous layer of exterior insulation on top of the sheating (foam, mineral wool, or wood fiber boards) is preferrable. This also helps to prevent condensation from developing within the walls as the steel transitions from a hot to cold environment.

    • @kevcom000
      @kevcom000 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah that and steel framed houses are significantly harder to modify or change the layout of. Also along the lines of being conductive Steele can strip improperly ran wires which wood can’t and can cause shorts in the wall.

    • @kevcom000
      @kevcom000 Před rokem +2

      @@Pedro-0839 yeah it is and it’s the same people who half ass other construction projects to save time, money or they just don’t care. That’s why you should always check companies before you use them look at reviews and if you can contact previous customers of them, it’s also why the cheapest contractor isn’t always best.

    • @uncrunch398
      @uncrunch398 Před rokem

      Thanks. Wood frames need updated designs, i.e. staggered and decoupled exterior to interior studs, to be less thermally conductive. Even that is a measurable sound and thermal bridge.

  • @69elchupacabra69
    @69elchupacabra69 Před 4 lety +87

    Can you do pros and cons of having super loud music laid over a narrators voice

  • @darthvader5300
    @darthvader5300 Před 5 lety +1

    CUPLOY400-CL and CUPTEN490-CL, the new steel (containing1.5% nickel and 0.3% molybdenum as additives)has recently been chosen for two road bridge construction projects in Niigata and Mie prefectures. Use this marine grade weathering coastal steel alloy that needs no painting or galvanizing but to play it safe, have it still anodized in potassium permaganate (1960s technology) and galvanized it (invented before 1900).

  • @darthvader5300
    @darthvader5300 Před 5 lety +4

    Weathering Steel for Saline Coastal Areas Developed Tsu Works
    Model bridge structure built at NKK's Tsu Works using the company's new weathering steel. NKK has developed new weathering steel that requires no coating even in coastal areas with large amounts of airborne salt. Marketed as CUPLOY400-CL and CUPTEN490-CL, the new steel (containing1.5% nickel and 0.3% molybdenum as additives)has recently been chosen for two road bridge construction projects in Niigata and Mie prefectures.
    NKK's new steel is characterized by its complex additives of nickel and molybdenum. With conventional weathering steels in a salt-rich environment, it has been difficult to prevent the progression of corrosion from the concentration of chlorine ions permeating through rust layers on the steel surface.NKK has successfully optimized a combination of nickel and molybdenum to effectively prevent the concentration of chlorine ions, thus enhancing chlorine resistant properties.
    In addition to its excellent atmospheric corrosion resistance, the new steel, though added by alloys, offers remarkable mechanical properties, guaranteeing JIS SMA400 and 490. It also features good weldability due to the restrained carbon content, reducing work load by virtue of lower preheating temperature. As well, because initial rust streaming is minimal, appearance is enhanced.
    NKK has confirmed the new steel's superb chlorine resistant properties in field exposure tests conducted at several locations and also in tests using a model bridge structure built at the Tsu Works. In developing and commercially producing the steel, NKK collaborated with Kobe Steel for the welding materials and with Mitsuboshi Sangyo for high-strength bolts fitted for the steel.
    The new steel has been chosen for a single steel truss bridge (100m in length using 330 tons of steel) to be built in Niigata Prefecture and completed this August, and for a single non-synthetic steel-girder bridge (100m, 170 tons of steel) to go up this June in Mie Prefecture.
    Near seacoasts and other saline areas, ordinary steel is generally treated with heavy corrosion-protection coating, which costs about ¥10,000 per square meter. While the new weathering steel is priced some 35% higher than conventional weathering steels, the feature of not requiring heavy anti-corrosive coating means that initial corrosion protection costs are held to one-third of heavy coating methods. Moreover, since periodic recoating is not needed, the new steel can cut total life-cycle costs dramatically, including costs of long-term maintenance.
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  • @ciaobellamiamore
    @ciaobellamiamore Před 4 lety +1

    I've been watching Brittans Escape to the country and have been concerned about termites. They feature SO MANY houses with cracked wooden Beams and thatched roofs. I guess there are no termite issues in England. Do you deliver homes to the United States?

  • @kermitefrog64
    @kermitefrog64 Před 3 lety +3

    They need to start selling this in California especially with all the wildfires and earthquakes. I would use Rockwool and Hardie Boarding siding.

  • @marcelosantana9311
    @marcelosantana9311 Před 6 lety +30

    I want a steel house. Just purchased a older house made of wood frame, a nightmare. So many water damage issues to fix, so hard to remove 2 columns from the middle of the kitchen, such stupid design when it was framed.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 Před 5 lety +9

      i dont get why you american build you home out of wood frame they rot after 20 years why dont you guys build them out of bricks steel rebar and concrete they pretty much last your whole life

    • @randomman057
      @randomman057 Před 4 lety +6

      I live in a 90 year old wood frame house in a climate that gets plenty of rain and there isn't any significant issues with water damage. This typically happens on wood homes that aren't weatherproofed properly.

    • @alirashid21111gmai
      @alirashid21111gmai Před 4 lety +3

      @@patthonsirilim5739 In the south, AZ AL TX and NM we use steel

    • @Seiku
      @Seiku Před 4 lety +3

      @@patthonsirilim5739 I don't think using the wood is the issue but that they're just built cheaply and poorly. From the onset of construction just designed to not last and construction methods are haphazard and the results are questionable. Regardless, I'd like to see more cement and steel use in houses here.

    • @jerrypie
      @jerrypie Před 4 lety +1

      @@patthonsirilim5739 Not defending it, but the reason is because it's cheap and America has a lot of forests.

  • @MALITHA8
    @MALITHA8 Před 2 lety +1

    Just a question. How about hanging wall cabinets. Wall mounted tv’s ect. Can screws be directly driven in to steel studs like in wood studs? Thanks

    • @leeknivek
      @leeknivek Před 2 lety

      Yes, but usually you would want to add some wood blocking to give it some more grab. Butterfly bolts are usually rated to 75-150lbs I think also, and those just go on the sheetrock.

  • @dirtysaint5324
    @dirtysaint5324 Před 5 lety +35

    "Pros and Cons of Steel House Frames" by Complete Steel Frames.
    This is surely not biased lol

  • @eniac111
    @eniac111 Před 3 měsíci

    What about the rust if the zinc coating fails in case of moisture? Also, I have concerns about thermal bridges if it's not properly covered. My other option is a massive house (concrete and bricks), but it will take a lot more time for building.

  • @damaliamarsi2006
    @damaliamarsi2006 Před 5 lety +2

    What about hanging stuff on the walls, like a TV frame or the like. Can you drill into steel studs without compromising it?

    • @mein214
      @mein214 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes , nothing will happen to the stud, steel frame has to be 18 gauge stud to build your home, but steel frame is 3 times more expensive then wood, at least in America.

    • @chriskeel3096
      @chriskeel3096 Před 3 lety

      @@BondJFK when their cost comes down to as low as wood. wasteful spending hurts just as bad as a poor investment on a poorly built home

    • @leeknivek
      @leeknivek Před rokem

      @@mein214 i think now they're probably pretty close in price, no?

    • @Zebcaramel
      @Zebcaramel Před rokem

      @@leeknivek they are pretty comparable yeah it’s sorta location dependent too

  • @celthelen
    @celthelen Před 6 lety

    If you want to knock down an interior steel wall ( to open up two rooms into one) can this be done?

    • @mluthi69
      @mluthi69 Před 6 lety +3

      It's just the same as with timber. You may need a supporting beam if the wall was a loadbearing one.

    • @nicholassardis6875
      @nicholassardis6875 Před 3 lety +1

      @celthelen The cool thing about removing a steel wall is that you actually disassemble it as opposed to knocking it down. I feel like most applications of steel in homes are in conjunction with wood. They will do the floor joists in steel and everything else in wood, Steel studs are really great for high ceilings though because they can be made to order

  • @maps5313
    @maps5313 Před 4 lety +3

    how about rusting?

  • @kermitefrog64
    @kermitefrog64 Před 4 lety +1

    The steel roof I have on my storage shed does not make any more noise than my composition roof. Living in an earthquake zone this would be a good material to use.

    • @uncrunch398
      @uncrunch398 Před rokem

      If you want earthquake proof, you need some part to flex and not collapse with the waves of the quake. The Japanese learned this a long time ago. Unfortunately their answer to this problem, at the time, wasn't fireproof.

  • @nutibio
    @nutibio Před 6 lety +8

    Any feedback on how these frames perform in a tropical climate ?

    •  Před 5 lety

      nutibio corrosion?

    • @rogersmith1408
      @rogersmith1408 Před 4 lety

      Would like to know this as well

    • @freshcaffe
      @freshcaffe Před 4 lety +1

      @ they would do well if they are zinc coated.

    • @freshcaffe
      @freshcaffe Před 4 lety +4

      @@rogersmith1408 also there are all types of paints for each climate. Just think about the paint used to coat ships to handle the highly corrosive sea water. There are solutions regarding rust

    • @TheMambomaster
      @TheMambomaster Před 3 lety +2

      I have built steel homes in Florida on the water for over 35 years. No rust

  • @coolbeans6148
    @coolbeans6148 Před 5 lety +1

    What about installation ? Do they get really cold in the winter and really hot in the Summer?

    • @thepathanforce5646
      @thepathanforce5646 Před 2 lety

      You need to have insulation and its no different to timber frame, it will be governed by the energy rating. So I would say its not the point of difference.

    • @coolbeans6148
      @coolbeans6148 Před 2 lety

      @@thepathanforce5646 I dont think so.
      Conduction is more of an issue with steel than timber.
      But to what degree is my question.
      Is putting more insulation down enough?

    • @thepathanforce5646
      @thepathanforce5646 Před 2 lety +1

      @@coolbeans6148 yeah I know thermal conductivity of steel is higher but that's where energy assessor will come into action.

  • @theseaofserenity01
    @theseaofserenity01 Před 7 lety

    ... keen to have an ..

  • @danielmoreno110
    @danielmoreno110 Před 5 lety +32

    Steel if far more superior wood is never strait I dont understand why we keep using wood

    • @Badenhawk
      @Badenhawk Před 4 lety +5

      Wood grows on trees? Lol, but I am looking at building a steel home in the future.

    • @johnwayne2103
      @johnwayne2103 Před 4 lety +2

      Wood is biodegradable and is cheaper.

    • @aaronvannatta9329
      @aaronvannatta9329 Před 3 lety +2

      @@johnwayne2103 I would prefer my house not be biodegradable, personally

    • @mattbanks3517
      @mattbanks3517 Před 3 lety

      @@johnwayne2103 biodegradable is bad for something that needs to last. galvanized steel stainless steel, aluminium and copper don't even have to be melted down, since they're protected from rust, they can be used and reused for hundreds of years without ever melting them down.

    • @darthvader5300
      @darthvader5300 Před 3 lety

      @@mattbanks3517 Use marine grade structural stainless steels containing rare earths to ensure the alloys are dissolving properly and perfectly and are stabilized once they are created and formed into the finished product. It should also be weldable and hot workable without causing any kind of deleterious effects on the stainless steel alloys. Cold War era stainless steel alloys for military use are common and are still waiting to be released for the civilian engineering sector and still waiting up to this time. Imagine that your building is still as good as new after 10,000 years and is good for an another 10,000 years. Believe me it can and was achieved quietely after they took samples of the Iron Pillar of New Delhi which is supposed to 1,500 years old but advance age dating technologies indicated it is beyond 20,000 years old.

  • @mannyb4265
    @mannyb4265 Před 6 lety +1

    My metricon built house is a steel frame and is very creaky/noisy, especially in windy weather. Also, they installed a termite barrier which needs to be inspected annually (at a cost of $180 each time) in order to "maintain the warranty".

    • @audex
      @audex Před 5 lety

      is your house exterior finishing done with a EIFS system like in europe?

  • @gregkirby9059
    @gregkirby9059 Před 3 lety +1

    steel vs large concrete blocks?

  • @kalexander5114
    @kalexander5114 Před 3 lety +3

    What about Earthquakes???

  • @lazarusagege1456
    @lazarusagege1456 Před 4 měsíci

    Can you ship overseas?

  • @HappyfoxBiz
    @HappyfoxBiz Před 6 lety +1

    hmm, any time someone says "if our product fucks up your house, we will repair it, if there is a catestrophic failure, we will replace the house and it's contents" is technically a win

  • @aiskrym7647
    @aiskrym7647 Před 4 lety +1

    My personal concern is noise. Metal expands and contracts because of temperature changes a lot, and metal-metal joints will have to deal with it. If roof is creaking, why should frame not do this? Of course there is an insulation, but it only softens the effect

    • @johnmark6628
      @johnmark6628 Před 4 lety +2

      Wood does the same.

    • @aiskrym7647
      @aiskrym7647 Před 4 lety

      @@johnmark6628 But metal on metal produces more sound than wood on wood, no? :/

    • @johnmark6628
      @johnmark6628 Před 4 lety

      @@aiskrym7647 Correct. But as long as you have everything done right you shouldn't be hearing sounds on either one.

  • @DNB7227
    @DNB7227 Před 2 lety

    Do you build in the US

  • @richcruz936
    @richcruz936 Před 3 lety +3

    What about rust? Was waiting for the explanation on rust in the cyclone segment..... I have my doubts on seaside residences.....

    • @aphrodence02
      @aphrodence02 Před 3 lety

      It won't because it is situated with aluminum coatings.

    • @harryinhuahin1272
      @harryinhuahin1272 Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah... he slipped by that one pretty quickly. If you cut or drill the steel you set up a potential rust spot. regardless how the rest is treated...!

    • @Adamoo8
      @Adamoo8 Před 3 lety

      Did you guys not watch the whole thing? It’s in the myth section

    • @harryinhuahin1272
      @harryinhuahin1272 Před 3 lety

      @@Adamoo8 Yes I did. And yes it is. And, as I said: "...he slipped by that one pretty quickly"... lol

    • @CarlosRivera-eh8qt
      @CarlosRivera-eh8qt Před 3 lety

      @@harryinhuahin1272 agree plus the way the cut the ends exposed the ends to rust and I’m sure it will spread

  • @vinvan4237
    @vinvan4237 Před 3 lety

    Yeh and what about thermal bridging?

  • @gerardhaubert8210
    @gerardhaubert8210 Před 3 lety +1

    Do steel frame homes rust?

  • @balloney2175
    @balloney2175 Před 6 lety +13

    watch this if you plan to live in australia

    • @jayecurry1369
      @jayecurry1369 Před 3 lety

      Watch this even if you plan to live in the U.S. Don't build your house out of termite food!

    • @balloney2175
      @balloney2175 Před 3 lety

      @@jayecurry1369 Oh yeah!? Tell me where to buy steel frame in the USA.

    • @jayecurry1369
      @jayecurry1369 Před 3 lety

      @@balloney2175Try Lowe's, Menard's, and Home Depot I bet. There are also companies around that will build you a house, if you just look around. Try asking an architect for recommendations.

  • @hulkb0gan
    @hulkb0gan Před 3 lety +2

    "Who do we get to do the pros and cons ad?"... "I know! let's make that knicker sniffer from marketing do it."

  • @kalexander5114
    @kalexander5114 Před 3 lety +2

    What about when hanging pictures on walls????

    • @TheMambomaster
      @TheMambomaster Před 3 lety +1

      You can use self drilling screws or drywall anchors.

  • @thepartae
    @thepartae Před 4 lety +2

    What about steel frame homes near seawater?

    • @TheNinjaOfThe906
      @TheNinjaOfThe906 Před 3 lety

      You can apply anti corrosion coatings. Or go with stainless steel. Or even better, both!

    • @thepartae
      @thepartae Před 3 lety

      @@TheNinjaOfThe906 thanks mate!

  • @segamon
    @segamon Před 4 lety +5

    I'm here because I just found out that I have some termite issues...

    • @canadianroot
      @canadianroot Před 4 lety +1

      There are creams and ointments that can help with that.

  • @gerardhaubert8210
    @gerardhaubert8210 Před 3 lety

    In cold climates, do steel frames conduct cold ?

    • @kc9scott
      @kc9scott Před 3 lety

      Yes; what I've heard is that there should be some exterior insulation to deal with this.

    • @ziggarillo
      @ziggarillo Před rokem

      Well conduction is an issue, but "cold" isn't conducted.

  • @Kaw-rasu
    @Kaw-rasu Před 4 lety +2

    What's heavier; a kilogram of steel, or a kilogram of feathers?

    • @Kaw-rasu
      @Kaw-rasu Před 3 lety

      @@spongebob4 Wrong, steel is heavier than feathers.

    • @Kaw-rasu
      @Kaw-rasu Před 3 lety

      @@spongebob4 But it's not fair if there's less steel

    • @oneillcfc7921
      @oneillcfc7921 Před 2 lety

      Lmfao its the same argument with muscle 1 kilo of steel=1kilo of feathers its only the volume thats different

    • @ravijit9
      @ravijit9 Před rokem

      Same thing

  • @funfunyo7523
    @funfunyo7523 Před 3 lety

    my home is 23yrs old steel frame and theres no cracks in gyprock anywhere

  • @stiferojar8707
    @stiferojar8707 Před 5 lety +3

    is steel frame house have danger with lighting?

    • @terencehbtc
      @terencehbtc Před 5 lety

      it is no any danger with ighting.

    • @radaraacf
      @radaraacf Před 5 lety

      I personally am concerned with rodents chewing wire which may cause electrical conduction into metal frame

  • @kdmq
    @kdmq Před 5 lety +8

    2:10 Cue the "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" comments

    • @darrenburris7369
      @darrenburris7369 Před 5 lety +2

      911 was a inside job!

    • @radaraacf
      @radaraacf Před 5 lety +1

      Haha yeah it might not melt steel but it will soften steel reducing its strength even it isn’t at the liquification temperatures

    • @squidproquo2241
      @squidproquo2241 Před 4 lety

      @radaraacf _ Yes, you are correct and after softening up the steel the whole building will come down as if its being demolished together with the steel not weekend by fire. That is the inescapable fate of steel buildings these days.

    • @rogersmith1408
      @rogersmith1408 Před 4 lety +1

      @@radaraacf True, that why we use a torch to heat steel up a little and it's so easy. Yes, if the building was build right it would collapse inward as thats where it's braced to.

    • @samweldtv
      @samweldtv Před 4 lety

      Actually it made to disappear.

  • @peterbeyer5755
    @peterbeyer5755 Před 4 lety

    Insulation in a steel roof can be difficult.

    • @TheMambomaster
      @TheMambomaster Před 3 lety +2

      Not really. Foam spray and tape insulation made for steel framing

    • @luisdavila5346
      @luisdavila5346 Před 2 lety

      We use icenyne spray foam insulation in our builds. Not hard at all.

  • @tankritkiddo8137
    @tankritkiddo8137 Před 4 lety

    what about a lightning?

    • @TheNinjaOfThe906
      @TheNinjaOfThe906 Před 3 lety

      Most homes have a lightning rod to ground it

    • @TheMambomaster
      @TheMambomaster Před 3 lety

      steel is good for lighting transfer to the ground. lighting will catch a wood house on fire.

  • @kalexander5114
    @kalexander5114 Před 3 lety +1

    How is tornadoes???

  • @matthewm3315
    @matthewm3315 Před 2 lety

    Legit video

  • @UniWonder
    @UniWonder Před 4 lety +8

    Working in IT departments for over a decade, steel frame walls block more wifi amplitude than wet walls (bathrooms) when heat mapping WI-FI coverage. i.e. your wifi will suck in steel without repeaters or multiple access points.

    • @johnmark6628
      @johnmark6628 Před 4 lety +2

      Google uses steel framing in their London HQ.

  • @theseaofserenity01
    @theseaofserenity01 Před 7 lety +2

    i read that steel frames conduct heat very well, so it will cost more for heating and cooling. what do you say to that? you should perhaps make a video to address that, because people are now very keen to a energy efficient house.

    • @bensimpson5008
      @bensimpson5008 Před 6 lety

      even timber "conducts" to some extent. today's standard for insulating is usually a thermal break outside of the stud wall. foam boards of some type.

    • @wonbadood8243
      @wonbadood8243 Před 6 lety +4

      The Sea of Serenity
      Iv'e been in a lot of Steel Frame 5 bedroom homes and some apartment blocks in Ireland. It's a damp climate.
      Mildew lines on the inside of external walls which shows exactly where your steel stud work is. Or the internal corners of the 4 outer corners of the house which is worse as there is heavier steel at those points so they get much colder therefore blacker.
      It may be a problem with bad insulating but all these homes were built to spec.
      Mildew = Fungus = Spores which are very bad for lungs especially in modern well insulated homes.
      As for the internal walls, it's worth going over all the plaster boarded walls and give them a firm bang with your fist. You'll probably get a metally vibration, not quite a clang here and there. Very annoying though. Don't allow that.
      Fixing bathroom ware, kitchen cupboards, TV brackets, picture hooks etc. to walls can be difficult, especially if you hit the heavier guage parts ot the steel frame.
      Every steel frame that Iv'e been in has terrible mobile phone connection. It's not just me. The homeowners say the same regardless of the network provider.

    • @PatrickGuerrisi
      @PatrickGuerrisi Před 6 lety +2

      actually Australia's insulation standards are really bad compred to the rest of the world

    • @mluthi69
      @mluthi69 Před 6 lety +2

      "the rest of the world"? It's called climate zones. Here where I am in Australia our "winter" lasts 2 months (0c early mornings, 24c at lunch time), the hottest it gets in summer is about 35c for again about 2 months. We double glaze to keep the heat out.

  • @johnpondo6640
    @johnpondo6640 Před 6 lety +2

    Please do tell me since when timber cant be recycled? Steel also performs awfully in a fire, hence fire protection.

    • @AllThePeppermint
      @AllThePeppermint Před 6 lety

      Timber can be sometimes repurposed or composted, but not recyclable. Steel can be 100% recycled without any loss of material or material integrity.

    • @HuevosAzules
      @HuevosAzules Před 5 lety +2

      Good thing wood is real chipper in a fire

    • @johnmark6628
      @johnmark6628 Před 4 lety

      How will you recycle would to structurally hold up a house? Wood is better in fire?

  • @user-un4xi4dr4g
    @user-un4xi4dr4g Před 6 lety +5

    In my area metal is cheaper then wood

    • @terencehbtc
      @terencehbtc Před 5 lety

      generally in housing field, metal always is cheaper than wood

    • @rogersmith1408
      @rogersmith1408 Před 4 lety

      @@terencehbtc Have also found wood to be strong in most cases. Metal has it's place however. Depends on what you need.

    • @mattbanks3517
      @mattbanks3517 Před 3 lety

      @@terencehbtc wood is cheaper for me

    • @terencehbtc
      @terencehbtc Před 3 lety +1

      @@mattbanks3517 that's great. Both of them are good options for house building.

  • @bernardtruchet
    @bernardtruchet Před 2 lety

    Sauf qu'avec la hausse du prix des métaux "fer, alu, zinc" tout compte fait, je construis avec du pin (pas du pain) des Landes

  • @atmm89
    @atmm89 Před 2 lety

    another con is rust, easy to fix but still a pain in the ass

  • @waatao9856
    @waatao9856 Před 3 lety +1

    What about rust? And the bolts and rivers screw that rust to? I know cos I know someone who build this.

    • @jesseschumacher4080
      @jesseschumacher4080 Před 3 lety

      If they built it without stainless or otherwise non-corrosive fasteners, they did it wrong. The rust-prone areas would not be at risk for about a century, if not longer.

    • @waatao9856
      @waatao9856 Před 3 lety

      @@jesseschumacher4080 yup some screws were rusting I saw with own eyes most walls needs to be cut down slight adjustment with angle grinder. And yes I see it rust on the walls itself

  • @HH3222
    @HH3222 Před 6 lety

    poor audio

  • @meowmeow1733
    @meowmeow1733 Před 2 lety

    One con....I'm sure theirs more then this.
    I wonder how steel does if placed right next to the ocean.
    The ocean is ruthless against metal....all metal despite coating.

  • @darthvader5300
    @darthvader5300 Před 3 lety

    Structural grade stainless steel

  • @waatao9856
    @waatao9856 Před 6 lety

    what about rust?

    • @lovemusic5654
      @lovemusic5654 Před 6 lety

      I saw a metal frame house with water damage so it all depends on how bad the water was.

    • @Ace-Av8er
      @Ace-Av8er Před 6 lety +3

      waa tao steel studs are galvanized so do not rust.

    • @o11o01
      @o11o01 Před 6 lety +3

      DId you even watch the video?

    • @johnmark6628
      @johnmark6628 Před 4 lety

      Don't expose it to the elements?

  • @franklinarguedas4832
    @franklinarguedas4832 Před 3 lety +1

    sir, your information regarding steel not shrinking or expanding, is wrong!
    Steel does shrink and expands with temperature variations, and this may lead to failure of other components if not properly protected through isolation or other techniques.
    Take care,
    Franco

  • @js-wq6zy
    @js-wq6zy Před 3 lety +1

    Seems kind of pointless to use steel in the same fashion as stick frame houses, need something more innovative, its kind of like a Ferrari designer forced to copy the construction design of old wooden freight train cars...you need somebody stamping out large pre made walls or even roof panels, 10x10, x20, x30 etc pre painted on outside and simply fitted together on site, kind of like how sea containers are made, but preinsulated, and maybe just with minimal columns and beams for large spans if applicable, think giant minivan without the drivetrain.

  • @dec335
    @dec335 Před 10 měsíci

    There is no way steel is more environmentally friendlier than timber. It takes a lot of energy to make steel. Forests are planted specially to make timber

  • @squidproquo2241
    @squidproquo2241 Před 4 lety +7

    The main problem with steel homes is that planes crashing into them and causing fire. After that they will collapse like they are demolished by explosives.

    • @sweetbriarhuslin7371
      @sweetbriarhuslin7371 Před 4 lety +1

      Name a building that wouldn’t collapse after a plane ran into it going over 500 mph

    • @squidproquo2241
      @squidproquo2241 Před 4 lety

      @@sweetbriarhuslin7371 _ World Trade Center 1 & 2. They did not collapse EVEN AFTER hit by the planes allegedly moving 500 mph at almost sea level. The collapse was due to the fire after the hits weakening the structure according to the popular claim. But NIST never explained how those buildings collapsed due to the impact from the planes. As they admitted their explanation is only up to the INITIATION of the GLOBAL COLLAPSE. Meaning that when the collapse started the global collapse was inevitable according to NIST. AND THIS IS A LIE.

    • @sweetbriarhuslin7371
      @sweetbriarhuslin7371 Před 4 lety

      Langolier steel bends when heated to a certain point.

    • @squidproquo2241
      @squidproquo2241 Před 4 lety

      @@sweetbriarhuslin7371 _ "steel bends when heated to a certain point."
      And unheated, undamaged steel does not buckle as if it does not have any resistance when a force applied to it.

    • @samueljesse2179
      @samueljesse2179 Před 2 lety

      @@sweetbriarhuslin7371 😂

  • @chriskeel3096
    @chriskeel3096 Před 3 lety +1

    why not just frame your house the ancient way? you know, carved monolithic stone. it would be superior to all current framing.....

  • @thumperhunts6250
    @thumperhunts6250 Před 2 lety

    the next video is the pros and cons of using a microphone

  • @dutchman063
    @dutchman063 Před 3 lety +1

    I grew up in a steel house and when my parents told me i needed to move out i unscrewed my bedroom and took it with me

  • @johnarrese3213
    @johnarrese3213 Před 4 lety

    Only in Australia, steel is more expensive than wood!!!!

  • @ballwizz23
    @ballwizz23 Před 4 lety +2

    I was excited until I saw the name of the channel. There's a clear bias...

  • @Volks2462
    @Volks2462 Před 3 lety

    Its a shame the same cant be said about the slabs they use on the east coast... frame might last 50 years but these waffle pod slabs wont

  • @jerryanry8761
    @jerryanry8761 Před 5 lety +4

    This is an advertisement...

    • @alirashid21111gmai
      @alirashid21111gmai Před 4 lety +2

      usually, ads don't mention any cons but not this one, so I wouldn't classify it as an ad.

    • @harryinhuahin1272
      @harryinhuahin1272 Před 3 lety

      Of course it's a commercial - what else did you expect?

  • @stef7396
    @stef7396 Před 5 lety +1

    and erm how about you make a house out of bricks with steel rods in the walls and floors? why do you need a garbage frame for that? also im sure those are WAY stronger then ANY steel or wood frames

    • @elwoodhopkins
      @elwoodhopkins Před 4 lety

      @Paradoxical Nightmare you have a good point but there's no reason to be an asshole just because we're on the internet

  • @Brik-in-the-sticks
    @Brik-in-the-sticks Před 4 lety +1

    Sure steel doesnt burn, if the whole house and fixings are made of steel. Steel frames are not treated with chemicals? No zink, lead or other rust proofing? Your justification of myths doesnt add up.

    • @squidproquo2241
      @squidproquo2241 Před 4 lety

      @Marc Brik _ Steel buildings will not burn but with enough damage, say an airplane crash along with fire, will bring them down like they are being demolished.

    • @rogersmith1408
      @rogersmith1408 Před 4 lety

      Steel will burn. If the fire gets hot enough. better question maybe whats the melting point of this stuff? the frame may not burn, but everything else will.....

    • @squidproquo2241
      @squidproquo2241 Před 4 lety

      @@rogersmith1408 You can not burn or melt the steel with common household fires. Steel will also conduct heat very fast so that it will not weaken like wood, as well. Even if it weakens it will not collapse as if the whole structure is compromised.
      For the rest of the building if you use cement boards with stone wool insulation you will have a fire proof house.

    • @Brik-in-the-sticks
      @Brik-in-the-sticks Před 4 lety

      @@squidproquo2241 you completely missed my point

    • @squidproquo2241
      @squidproquo2241 Před 4 lety

      @@Brik-in-the-sticks _ "you completely missed my point"
      I don't think there is much to miss anyway. You said;
      "Sure steel doesnt burn, if the whole house and fixings are made of steel"
      Concrete, rock wool, gypsum boards, fiber glass bat insulation, brick, etc. are also don't burn. In fact using steel with cement (concretes) is very common to build a fire proof structure.
      You are talking about stick frame buildings out of steel with other materials, implying wood, etc While he is referring to the framing itself. So his argument is "Even everything else is burned down the frame will still stand."
      So if you are trying to say something else I am afraid you are out of coherence here.
      "Steel frames are not treated with chemicals? No zink, lead or other rust proofing?"
      Again he is talking about the material itself. For that matter even painting a metal could be considered as chemical treatment. However, unlike steel, wood itself is immersed in the termite resisting chemicals (mainly Borates) basically a pesticide.
      If, you are going to talk about chemical treatment of steel, you talk about surface treatment. Lead is no longer used for homes as corrosion resistant film for steel. As for the galvanization of steel surfaces, as long as, you don't handle the metal in a way to produce metal dust say by cutting mechanically or using high heat etc. even with household fires, the zinc layer will not be harmful to the people.
      In short;
      You treat wood with chemical which is infused to the wood
      You treat the surface of steel which does not change the properties of metal istelf.
      "Your justification of myths doesnt add up."
      I think you listen to him more carefully and learn more about the basics of the issue.
      If, I missed your point, please explain to me what your point is.

  • @id104335409
    @id104335409 Před 4 lety +5

    Don't smile like that, please!

  • @ericozgo100
    @ericozgo100 Před 2 měsíci

    Sorry, but just because you leave information out, it doesn't mean that you are not lying. I'm a metal worker, so I'm biased towards steel, but I know the problems.
    I've been told that our firefighters are not allowed to go inside metal-framed houses, and I find it very difficult to find a clear answer on that.
    As others have said, the chances of electrical cables being stripped by being dragged along steel edges are more than just possible.
    Steel also conducts heat, and the frames use very thin steel. Who remembers their science teacher proving that steel can catch fire by setting steel wool on fire with a lit match?
    When timber burns and the fire is put out, the rest of the timber remains in good condition. The steel frame may not survive and the whole house could be condemned because of a fire in the laundry. Please be fully honest, as it only harms the steel frame industry.

  • @StannisTheMannis305
    @StannisTheMannis305 Před 3 lety

    So basically all pros lol

  • @Wazza722
    @Wazza722 Před 5 lety +3

    Omg how biased is this!
    1 con, i can think of 5!

    • @coolbeans6148
      @coolbeans6148 Před 5 lety +1

      Do tell these 5 cons

    • @Wazza722
      @Wazza722 Před 5 lety +2

      Lived in a steel framed house and it was Noisy, we thought we had rodents in the walls and ceilings, it felt colder in winter and hotter in summer, had trouble with dropouts streaming my nas to my tv, harder to walk in the ceiling looking for those rodents that didnt exsist, mounting the tv wall mount was more difficult, had to use wall anchors, if theres ever a water leak steel will rust over time because its been exposed to moisture, wood will dry out and wont rot unless the leak persists.

    • @coolbeans6148
      @coolbeans6148 Před 5 lety

      @@Wazza722 Yea, but he already addressed a lot of these issues. zinc coated steel for rust, my wood house as the same noise issues(rodent sounds, no rodents), wifi works in skyscrapers, ext. The only big issue i have and a problem im trying to solve is regulating indoor temps. As you said, it gets colder in winter and hotter in The summer. What kind of insulating did you use? I appreciate your feed back.

    • @Wazza722
      @Wazza722 Před 5 lety

      Zinc coated steel still rusts, why are steel framed and colorbond roofs not recomened around salt water?
      Never heard of a timber framed house rusting or creaking.
      If i ever get a house built it will be timber frames and trusses.
      Thats my thoughts

    • @coolbeans6148
      @coolbeans6148 Před 5 lety

      @@Wazza722 oh, salt water would be a different story for sure. I dont live by the ocean so im probably going to build a steel home. Just has to be insulated properly with a vapor barrier from my readings.

  • @thehonksterkadunedalickyda7036

    Will you be my daddy

  • @davyhill23
    @davyhill23 Před 2 lety

    Ok boomer

  • @jwychau
    @jwychau Před 3 lety

    BAHAHAHHAHA ... like nothing about the price