Debunking 360 Video Myths with the Insta360 X3
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
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360-degree video production has suffered through some tough times, but now in 2023, it's a lot easier and more practical than you might think. In this video, Chris Niccolls and Jordan Drake discuss some of the biggest myths surrounding 360-degree video and explain why none of them hold water anymore. - Věda a technologie
Normal Chris & Jordan: “we HATE 360 video!”
Sponsored Chris & Jordan: “we LOVE 360 video!”
Yeah it’s pretty pathetic. But I guess they’ll sell out if they have some bills to pay.
If they at least talked about a few other random 360 cameras and how they compare... this would feel much less of a shill. But hey, making contents are NOT cheap, and someone's gotta foot the bill... all things being said, I am glad Insta360 pays up so I can continue to enjoy their videos!! (C&J - keep up the good work, we still love you!)
@@WallaceLau but if a company pays then to review their cameras they are not unbiased anymore. They will steer you towards Insta360 because that’s who they are working for.
Kinda, but they brought that up straight away, and I'm pretty sure that was a different brand camera. In the world of 360, that matters. I've worked in 360 extensively and Insta360 is clearly the leader (kinda like DJI when it comes to drones).
Ultimately, as long as they clearly label the video as sponsored (which they did in multiple places), I'm happy they're getting compensated for their work...cuz it's not like I'm paying them.
@@squirrel7890 it is a commercial at this point not a review. If you are getting paid to review you’re a paid shill. How can you trust any review if they sell out to the highest bidder?
I didn’t know there were myths around 360 video
There isn't. But insta 360 sponsored the video and paid money .so they got to come up with something
If I were Insta360 I’d be very happy I got my money’s worth. Good video despite being sponsored.
Was I the only o ne expecting 360 myths? We only got like 3 or 4. 🤣
I spent about a year with a One X2 as a supplementary camera on my channel and I found a lot of things I liked over my GoPros. At one point I even considered ditching the GoPros and using two Insta360s. But over time two major cons came up. Even though the app is great and very intuitive the reframing and export takes time and if you film a lot of footage like I did it balloons the workload a huge amount. Secondly, the protruding lenses are a real problem. I killed my first one very quickly with just a single drop. Lens replacement in NZ costs 2 thirds of the retail price. The protective sticky lenses fog up and scratch even easier and only the originals work, knock offs distort the view. I had to replace at least one set every couple of trips no matter how hard I tried and they are expensive. They also aren't waterproof. Because the lenses protrude the camera becomes unuseable in rain because the droplets distort the view. The pro protective case is even more expensive and scratches just as easily. In the end I probably spent half the value of the camera on protective lenses. So even though I really like the results and especially the long battery life, workload and the extra costs had me sell it. So just keep that in mind but they are great cameras and everything you mention is true. Just make sure it fits your use case.
I actually found the Meta Glasses to be a more useful product for fishing. I might need to get a pair with polarized lenses. It was a nice alternative to a cheat or head mounted GoPro and were gonna wear glasses anyways. Plus I could take calls while on the water hands free.
@niccollsvideo yeah I thought that looked interesting especially to have on you all the time without tons of gear to carry. Easy for insta reels and things. Good to have many options around.
'Older M1 iMac'.....Apple users are so addicted to the uograde cycle that a 2 yesr old imac is old.
This is a little bit different for you guys - more of an ad than your usual videos are. Or at least more transparently so. One would think this camera is the best thing since sliced bread and their app is perfect and everyone should obviously go out and buy one right away.
The example-shots they provide are super fun, and it’s incredible how quickly we all seem to take these fantastical camera capabilities for-granted.
The X3 is pretty great. Here's another myth that seems to be glossed over: the 5.7K only refers to the 360 spherical video before output. Outputted video is 1080p max, though the software does allow you to upscale from that in the export settings as shown by Jordan who inputted a 4K res.
The 1080p max is in the phone app. You can export upscaled but it's important to note that the more you zoom out, the more resolution you use. So you can zoom a little out from the standard view and get real 1440p.
You get the full version if you edit on a computer laptop top ect as long as your computer can handle the data, just saying 😎😎😎
I have 4 reasons why I choose to film with the old, reliable DJI Action cam:
1) Insta 360 X3 turns on really slowly. At least 15 seconds. Often what I want to film is already over.
2) There is always the extra step of having to go through an additional program and of course extra data. By the time it reaches the final result, the video takes up at least 2x more space.
3) Video quality is only for social networks and extra shots. Definitely not good as a basic camera. Even 4k Single lens it has such a fish eye effect and everything is blurred beyond 3 meters.
4) There are many more automatic options on the phone app than on the computer. On the other hand, video editing on a computer has a higher resolution. If only they could get it together.
Conclusions The camera is only suitable on bright days for social media entertainment videos or as interesting shots from unusual angles. Ideal for mountain climbers because you can get a drone-like effect in the view "from the side".
I've been blown away with how simple it is to make a video with the X3. Lots of fun and once you stop using too many gimmicky "shots" (tiny plaanet get way overdone initially) its great. Psuedo drone shots are incredible... The software has to be one of the most intuitive video editing suites I've ever used. both on the laptop or the phone. Thanks for showing your wizardy it was inspiring!
Not against sponsored content per se; would appreciate if it was marked in the title. Thanks!
Finally you review the X3! I use this device easily every week.. if not more.
Happy to see sponsored content like this that is relevant and interesting, especially if it helps you keep the lights on. Will definitely pickup one of these at some point. So many uses. There are times when it's appropriate for me to shoot with my Fuji on a slider, times when it's suitable to shoot on my iPhone, and times when the Insta360 X3 would be super useful.
Hello do you know if the quick reader works with Google pixel 8 pro now? Thank you
I had it since March or so and incorporated it into my vlogs as a new and different angle and it works really nice for that. What I don't like is, that as soon as the light is not optimal the image quality drops dramatically.
I bought one of these in July and it’s awesome - so easy to use and edit the footage.
Alright, I’ll approve this sponsored video. Very useful approach.
I love how much fun you had with this video
What I dislike the absolute most about the X3 is that they have a great app, but they don't tell you anywhere that you have to use the desktop version to export the highest quality..
Seriously! I had the X3 for a bit specifically because I wanted the mobile workflow, but the quality it exported at was potato quality at best. Basically made it unusable. I don't understand why they would cripple their mobile output like that. Even editing apps like Capcut which is notoriously subpar in image quality exports has better quality than the Insta360 app
Good thing for Laptops with enough computing power to function as a desktop replacement.
There is a way to make the mobile phone export data better as shown by many utubers 😎 and it’s no hardship to take the card out and shove it into laptop 🤩🤩
If I have Redmi Note 7 and I5 3470 + 750 Ti, will I be easy to edit insta360 x3 video in max settings?
Awesome music selection! I really enjoy your videos guys, keep up the good work!
I’ve been using x360 for last 6 monthish for my CZcams channel and love it. I cant wait till rez/hardware upgrades in the future.
I think the title of this video should have included an *explicit* "(sponsored by Insta 360 so don't expect anything unbiased)".
Thank you for this great video!!!
I’ve been close to pulling the trigger on a 360, but I’m looking at the higher model: Insta360 ONE RS 1-Inch 360
Have yall looked at and compared this to the smaller sensor insta 360 you reviewed here?
I’d really like to see a video on that!!
Will you do a proper review of this or any other 360 cams
I consider you guys are PRO - even you guys can't match the colours from this 360 camera to a regular camera, that does says something. I don't have a colour chart with me all the time, the colour recorded by the 360 camera is just off the chart. Why can't Insta360 provide a LUT to match the colour to any normal camera?
Nice promo video, have always been interested in one for comercial work. Did not know about the myths, thanks for sharing.
Very cool video, super helpful, thanks!
I got one and I thought it would be great but the video looks really bad, it looked like a webcam from a laptop, maybe it only works in bright daylight but I didn't get a chance to find out because after the firmware update that was required by the app, it would no longer charge so I returned it. Basicaly it only looks ok if the video is in a smaller size but on a 1080p or 720p television it looks really bad like an old webcam. The resolution is realistically less than 480p once you export a video especially shooting indoors even with normal household lighting you would need very bright lighting to make it half way decent. The fake drone shots are cool but that only looks good in bright daylight and definitely only on objects or buildings not on a humans face.
What 4k camera you will recommend, if i don't wana use colour grading to make it look better?
Not for filming just for events recording.
Record and upload?
dji pocket2 or action4 are solid. If you record for an hour or more, most actioncams overheat or glitch.
Wow, that was one long ad before the video. Wait a minute... That was the video?
0:45 in fact 360 video is pretty bad in VR, you dont have any stereo 3D and even the big 360 cameras that have 3d capability, do so by stitching from the 4 to 8 cameras, which results in an inconsistent stereo (as in distance of things is seemingly random). VR180 is a much better format for VR, as it records using 2 lenses spaced as far apart as you eyes with no stitching and higher pixel density since its 180°. But yeah 360 is great for flexible editing and the freedom to rotate anywhere and for drone shots, where everything is so far away, that depth is not noticeable anyway.
I need this episode.. haha
Had the insta 360 x2 and it worked well but hated the tiny round screen and it got really hot when charging and editing when sat still, sold it and bought the insta 360 x3 once it had been out a good while and got a much better price, it’s an extremely versatile camera, for fast moving water sports is fantastic and yes I own go pro as well but it’s the fact you miss nothing and can get the exact frame you want and pan around to view others on the water. The screen is so much better on the x3. Only one thing you did nit talk about is the lens stick out and have to be careful not to scratch them or drop camera on tarmac ect as it will scratch or break lens, the fix is buy a dive case for water sports or lens covers and you can get metal cages for them to protect your investment. I have had no freezes or any malfunction at all and had no buyers remorse as I often do with this 3rd generation camera. 😎😎😎😎😎
How can attach the Insta360 to my dog? I want to see what kind of video he can shoot.
I f**King hate sponsored videos by camera manufacturers. Of course you will come and tell us how great this camera is . I like dpreview more because no ads so I felt honesty with that
To be honest, even though this is sponsored. I think this footage is great because most sponsored video use footage where the sun is great and stuff but here it's cloudy and you see it's not as good as with good condition.
Yeah I’m pretty disappointed they did this video. I guess they’re getting a little desperate for money. I’m amazed that some people in these comments don’t realize how much of a sellout this is.
Fantastic vid, as always. It'll change minds. Small detail: you can't "pan up". That's a tilt.
I don’t know why, for sure, but on CZcams the 360 videos always seem to be lower image quality. Maybe all the extra 360 data reduces the image quality. People will say, « just ignore the 360 if you don’t like it », but I cannot ignore the reduced quality of the video.
Now got a x4 looking forward for your x4 review, even if it is sponsored.
The insta360 app is awesome. I have an One RS model with the 4K lens. It’s image quality is not much better than a smartphone, but I really like to use it.
The app is very quick to export videos and very intuitive
Had a blast with my X3 in Cuba. I was able to get some great footage. My only gripe is the low light video.
Forget the myths, let's talk about the facts! In this day of 8K, 7K, 6K and 4K, X3 footage is 1080. Also, it is darn easy to scratch/damage the lens and after the first coverage(if you have Care Refresh), it will need to be sent to China for $200 . Also, forget being discrete with 3' stick sticking out everywhere you go.
the scratching possibility is the only deal breaker. The (extra) lens guard drops IQ vastly.
Thank You.
Blink once if your children are being held hostage. Blink twice if this is a sponsored video.
No need to blink, it says right at the intro screen that this video is sponsored.
@@heiner71*blinks*
I honestly thought it was entertaining
Pretty sad they are selling out like this though. Suggesting a product because they are being paid to do l so. A long way from the dp review days.
@@shaananwalsh7513 , have you considered that they actually genuinely like the product, or is every product that is advertised automatically garbage in your eyes?
Defiantly an upgrade over my old Nikon 360 Action cam that has horrible paring issues, and though the hardware is great, the software sucked eggs. Which is why my Nikon 360 has been a paperweight for the last 3+ years. I might have to try it out again with an Insta360.
To be clear: this is a manufacturer-sponsored advertising video, not a review. It's easy to overlook this fact because it's only mentioned in a text caption at 00:13; otherwise, this video follows the format of Chris & Jordan's regular reviews. IMHO, this is borderline deceptive and undermines the credibility of this channel. There should be a small "sponsored content" text overlay over the entire video.
The title of this video ("Debunking 360 Video Myths...") should be changed as well, because it misreads as an editorial opinion, not as advertising copy.
I use 360 video to extract regular video. And from an extension pole for drone-like shots without the hassle of drones.
The 360 software does an excellent job removing the selfie stick. However, it does not remove the shadow from the video. Also, the "tiny planet" effect is the most annoying and overused effect used in amateur video today. When I see it, I stop the video and move on to something else. Otherwise not a bad alternative to a GoPro.
I have no problem with paid promotional content but it would be nice if you guys made it more clear. I don't want to be guessing which of your videos/reviews are objective and which are paid-for content. Nowhere in the video, the title, thumbnail or description is it made clear. Is it a paid-for promotional video for insta360? I'm still not sure.
360 cameras are really fun and Insta360 X3 is maybe some of the best. For me the biggest issue is the image quality, I really hop Insta360 will make a camera with better image quality. And for the right price.
As always "reviewers" leaving out how few phones that app will run on. I have a much older Insta360 OneX--and I like it. But the app has never run on any of *my phones.
I was also wondering if they fixed the problem of battery drain while off. My One X would die in a day even when not turned on. I had to start pulling the battery out so that I could use it when I wanted to. But then the time and date were wrong on every video.
i agree with everything you said BUT the quality of the reframed 360 video is not good enough , this is my only problem with 360 cameras.
Until now, I never thought of using a 360 camera for filmmaking. But, what you've shown here completely changes my point of view. I especially loved the fake drone shot. I can see using that in a story. Thanks, guys. Another great video.
If nothing else those video clips have suddenly made your lives look edgy and cool. Who knew you bounce in between swanky press events and fishing trips and green tube slides in equal measure! :D
The 360 camera you used years ago was a Nikon. I remember that.
"... older M1 iMac ..." omg. Any M-series is still current. This software will run suitably enough to frame and export on Intel Macs.
Is Chris being a fashionista with the Hole-y jeans?
very good for traveling and putting on the car
Originally, I wanted the X3 camera now that the insta360 Ace Pro camera is out. i'm in a bit of a dilemma. I will need to maybe buy both.
Sponsored videos are fine, but I think you should have clearly stated on camera that this was a sponsored look at the Insta360 and not a review. I don't think the quick the title screen is enough of a disclaimer.
The biggest myth you need to debunk how you can't change the F stops. I've seen a few 360 videos on CZcams that are overexposed. Same issue with the Pocket 3.
I can see only 360p max 720p video from insta. Where is 5.7k??? Quality is absolutely horrible.
debunking 360 video myths - actual video is talking asbout insta 360 features
Has anyone ever made a video about an insta 360 product with their genuine thoughts? Impossible to tell if these are any good with all the sponsored videos. I’ll stick to the GoPro max
I’m interested in the concept, this video shows me what it’s about. But I’m more interested in the Insta360 GO 3 action camera. I already have a mirrorless camera and haven’t determined where the Insta360 would fit in with what I’m doing. And I’m not exactly an action sports person, more of a dull plodding Boomer in his ‘60s.
Amazing one episode without apple product placement.
I just wish 360 cameras had better image quality
I bought one and quickly returned. Video quality isn't there (ok on small smartphone screen but don't acceptable on bigger display), camera quickly overheats in summer (30°C or 86°F). I will wait for next release to test. I hope they will improve these 2 big minuses. Otherwise it is not for me.
I feel like this video should have come with-Warning: You will be inside a fish.
I really had those ideas too, until my friend let me try his Insta 360 and saw his footage, really amazing, still it is not magic, the merge line between the cameras is a bit blurry and a 360 degrees image area is huge so the resolution is comparatively small, photos or stills are not comparable with a real camera or phone
There are plemty alternatives. Would be great to see a proper comparison video.
This is the first one of your videos I thumbs-down, and I have watched every last one from TCS to PP. I get that you have to make money, and I am happy that you are. I'll even watch and like the videos, but if you're going to post an ad, just label it as such, and don't try to insult your viewers' intelligence.
It is labeled as an ad. Look at the intro screen 13s in.
"Older M1 iMac" ... that's just 2 years old. Outside reviewers and a few "fanatics" who updates their computer every 2 years, in order to call this one old?
I'm guessing these tips will apply to the x2 in the X
x2 has better slowmo in 1080p
Paid ad. So everything will be “great”
Cynical?
@@Kit2Canadano, it’s simply a fact
😕 I’ve never liked PetaPixel’s willingness to debase itself with sponsored content funded by companies that it also reports on. Jaron’s insistence that he keeps firewalls in place to protect editorial independence is a lot like a restaurant manager insisting that the cigarette smoke can’t make it out of the smoking section.
Never thought I’d say this, but… sorry guys, bye.
It’s not 5.7k. Come on guys. Are you here for the viewer or for company’s that provide you free equipment
the bottleneck of forcing files through their software is the worst experience. 360 footage needs a direct path from camera to NLE, no middleman transcoding or exporting step.
💯
I love you guys and have great faith in your integrity, but shilling for a specific camera company is a slippery slope. Do beer ads or car ads, that fine, but you've spent a lot of years building your credibility in the photographic community.. Don't ruin it now, please!
Bought an x3 and hated the quality of the footage and the workflow. Sold it off and stuck with my gopro and pocket 2
wait a minute.. Calgary's not green at all right now lol
you should make a video about the dishonest / decpetive marketing of insta360 and them asking youtubers to compare the ace pro to the gopro and not the dji action 4. with the gp having a smaller sensor of course its going to look better than a gopro... this is deliberate deceptive marketing and they are taking the public for fools
insta360 are a scumbag company and deserve zero support and it needs exposed.
look at peter lindgrens review - he just so happened to love the ace pro compared to the gopro - know you know why.
While you have $1 in your pocket , some scumbagf somewhere will want it and will lie to get it.
If you drop this camera theirs no lens protection. I wish their was.
Professionally, I have always been attracted to these 360 cameras, especially coming from a VR background where we used to shoot a lot of car interiors for the manufacturers. The issue with 360 imaging generally - at least commercially in say hotels, planes, cars, yachts... is that the real work is in preparing the space. Not only does the client want to see their 'product' looking perfect, but there are things that they don't want customers to see. For me, these cameras are fun and have potential: frankly I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could think of an application where I could get from shoot to final export without the footage getting trimmed out of the timeline. As a saddo who uses geared tripod heads to get all my verticals, straight and parallel, I may just need some OCD therapy to use one of these cameras!
You didn't delve into the complexities of editing raw video on a PC. The reason the app seems so user-friendly is that it doesn't handle raw footage. Editing raw footage in Premiere Pro can be a nightmare, even on powerful, modern PCs. Also, many of the myths you mentioned are new to me, and hang out with a lot of camera nerds.
Also a huge killer is that the save files are not seamless you lose about a sec of footage between each save file.
You forgot to debunk one very persistent 360 myth and you even mentioned it: "the selfie stick gets cloned out". This is not true! This is not something special about specifically Insta360 cameras, or their selfiesticks. This is just that everything thin and straight enough will automatically disappear in any 360 camera's blindspot (like the mic-adapter on the side)! Nothing magical or computational!
A review or an AD⁉
And not a single disclosure in sight…
Dear Jaron: 🤮
All the 360 video looks choppy. Perhaps should have made the PP video 60p.
It’s also lower resolution which ch makes it look worse. They shoot in 5.7k for the complete 360 view. When you crop in to see the area you want to have viewed in your video it much lower resolution.
I understand that you need to make money, and wish you all the best. Buut these kinds of videos don't serve either you or the company...
nice toy
Ideal for sailing etc
It is not a must have. I own the dual sensor one rs 1 inch and essentially- it sucks.
"...older M1 iMac" 😅
X3 is a very good timelapser........
Fhd out of 8k footage......
Not sponsered .......
X3 and ace pro are 'nothing to compare'.....
I've never used one, but from what I've seen, you either make a really visually interesting shot, or you make an even worse shot then if you just used a regular camera. A lot more misses then hits. And the hits, I still can't help but think what an even more expensive setup would be with better dynamic range, more cameras so you don't get that fish eye effect with bad dynamic range and low resolution. But for the price, I really should not complain. But I still wont buy one.
Yeah, to bad the Image quality sucks. I want to see a 360 cam with a APS-C or fullframe sensor, so that the DR is acceptable. Also it needs at least like 12k in order to have enough resolution to still look good after editing.
Kandao Obsidian has eight APS-C sensors for 12K 3D 360 footage that you are asking for - but it's going to cost a you a bit (can't get quality without paying for it).
DPreview is not anything like it was, unfortunately the same with Chris and Jordan...
Sponsored video uuugh...
Also: I have a Insta360X2, but the quality is just not good enough.
We used the Camera a few times in the car and it gave some special shots, but in the end the quality is just not good enough. Not enough dynamic range, not enough sharpness, not enough resolution, often very noisy.
Only good for very specific shots, and also you are actually editing twice... First the 360 footage, and than afterwards you make the real edit...
"older m1 imac". its only 2 years old man.
What about the absolutely atrocious lag that this camera has?
PetaPixel | Spon.. Oopsy! Sorry, I mean: PEtApiXeL | “ShOWcASe“ 🙄 This is literal shilling, it’s gross to see you guys doing this.