Tesla’s 3-6-9 and Vortex Math: Is this really the key to the universe?

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  • čas přidán 1. 05. 2024
  • Today, a long overdue foray into the realm of VORTEX MATHEMATICS :)
    00:00 Intro
    04:16 The vortex
    08:10 The maths of remainders and digital roots
    13:25 Demystifying the vortex
    16:30 A matter of base. The 8 fingered Tesla.
    19:21 Explanation why the digital root is the remainder on division by 9
    24:01 Tristan's challenge
    24:44 The magic of modular multiplication maths
    25:19 Intuition for multiplier - 1 petals
    28:23 Thank You!
    Coding competition:
    My wish list for the modular times table diagram app:
    -Being able to color line segments according to length.
    -Indication of the "direction" of multiplication. 1x2 = 2 and so there should really be a little arrow from 1 to 2 not just a simple connection :)
    -different loops in different colors.
    ...
    Here is the prize, a copy of my and Marty's new book.
    bookstore.ams.org/mbk-141/
    That early Mathologer video featuring the modular times tables
    Times Tables, Mandelbrot and the Heart of Mathematics
    • Times Tables, Mandelbr...
    A really nice article about various ways to generate the cardioid by Dave Richeson
    divisbyzero.com/2018/04/02/i-...
    Nice debunking/demystifying article about vortex math by "Professor Puzzler"
    www.theproblemsite.com/vortex/
    For a growing pile of implementation of modular times table diagrams see my comment pinned to the top of the comment section of this video.
    Simon Plouffe's website
    plouffe.fr/Simon%20Plouffe.htm
    Articles by him relevant to this video can be found in this directory
    plouffe.fr/Inverseofprimes/
    See in particular the files
    The shape of b^n mod p.pdf
    La forme de bn mod p.pdf
    What I am talking about in this video is really just the tip of a bizarre mathematical iceberg that most mathematically minded people are completely unaware of. Have a look at this presentation by Marko Rodin on vortex math (beware serious nutty and at the same time truely beautifully presented numerology ahead :) A LOT more than is usually reported on in popular CZcams videos.
    sciencetosagemagazine.com/vbm...
    In turn this iceberg is just another tip of an even bigger iceberg of mainly wishful thinking. Have a look: sciencetosagemagazine.com/cat...
    Today's music: Aftershocks by Ardie Son
    Enjoy!
    Burkard

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  • @Mathologer
    @Mathologer  Před 2 lety +370

    (updated 2 April 2022) Thank you to all of you who contributed a modular times table app. All the apps I am aware of are listed below. The winner of the draw is Mathis Aaserud. Congratulation!
    Here are a few implementation contributed by viewers so far. Look at these first:
    Adam Abrams: theadamabrams.com/modularmultiplication
    Ed Collen: vortex-rho.vercel.app/
    Andrew “Ash Mystic” Herman: codepen.io/hippiefuturist/full/NrvqgZ (check out the preset animations on this one. Also check out his fractal tree generator codepen.io/hippiefuturist/full/KRromj )
    Man Hin Li: mandelbrot.vercel.app
    Liam Applebe: tiusic.com/vortex.html
    Owen Bechtel: owenbechtel.com/games/times-tables/
    William Ward: scratch.mit.edu/projects/647469837/
    Артём Маевский: tinyurl.com/yc8danxx
    Baxi: baxi-codes.github.io/mathologer-vortex/
    Marc Donis: madc0w.github.io/cardioid/
    Rafael Castro Couto: codepen.io/rafaelcastrocouto/pen/KKyoKWm
    Laurent Bucher: anceps.net/modularTimesTables.html
    Hannes Wendt: htts://math.wendt.sbs/vertex
    Hugo Cardoza: Code in p5js editor.p5js.org/hugomosh/sketches/1Sg1NxqI7
    john Schoeman: www.doodles.camp/#/doodles/modular-times-table
    Banjamin Elo: bnelo12.github.io/vortex-math/
    Joe Lucette: jluqu.github.io/modmult.html
    Federico Marotta: federico-marotta.shinyapps.io/tesla_vortex
    T3CHN01200: victorsohier.github.io/
    Tom DeRensis: github.com/tderensis/ModularTimesTableJavascript
    Ehsan Kia: ehsankia.com/cjs/vortex
    Jayson Vivet: www.geogebra.org/m/cufneprj
    Tyler Wolfe-Adam: mathologer-vortex-app.herokuapp.com/
    Andrea Coletta: mathologer-modular-time-table.lm.r.appspot.com/app
    Mathis Aaserud: sirkular.ispaceyourtube.com/
    Justin Kirk: intern-jck.github.io/vortex-math/
    Jarred Branch: no online version
    Álvaro Silva: mathlogervortexalvaro.web.app/
    Rafael Castro Couto: codepen.io/rafaelcastrocouto/pen/KKyoKWm
    planck_cst: www.jerpint.io/blog/mathologer-challenge/
    Anton Shcherbinin: ch.ant-on.net/modulo/moire?p=1009&m=303
    Cristian Merighi: js.pacem.it/2d/vortex
    Krischna-Gabriel Schulz: no online version
    András Kirisics: kiri-mathologer-vortex.web.app/
    relikd: relikd.github.io/Vortex-Math/
    Eclectic Gamer: czcams.com/video/n_YLB0ncbpI/video.html (Video on using Blender and Geometry nodes to make these diagrams)
    Some existing implementations of the modular times table diagrams:
    Aymeric Ramiere: www.aymericramiere.com/others_modular.html
    Steve Phelps: www.geogebra.org/m/z8wrdret#material/dqKkQEv7
    I did this a while ago: www.qedcat.com/cardioid.cdf
    Marcus Metzler: github.com/drmocm/Modulo-graphics
    Start of a wish list for the modular times table diagram coding competition:
    -Being able to color line segments according to length.
    -Being able to highlight different loops in different colors.
    -Indication of the "direction" of multiplication. 1x2 = 2 and so there should really be a little arrow from 1 to 2 not just a simple connection :)
    ...

    • @tridivsharma2342
      @tridivsharma2342 Před 2 lety +3

      @Mathologer I need your help, I've learnt all the basic integration techniques (By parts, Partial Fractions, Trig Sub, U-sub, Chain Rule) and I cannot find any more integration techniques to learn, can you please give me some more, all the websites say that you will learn more but I cannot find any more.

    • @alflud
      @alflud Před 2 lety +20

      Zero doesn't exist in the natural world - it's a man-made construction. There is never 'nothing' in the universe - never. There is no 'zero' in reality. The digital root of 10 doesn't exist in the natural world, only in the world of man. That is to say that whatever mathematics governs the natural world it does so without the use of a 'zero'.
      Can we devise a base9 system that does not use a zero?
      I'm no expert in this - just a curious layman - but I did do some thinking on this. Could we not begin counting at 11? The first iteration and the first 'number'? The first "one" so to speak? One One or 11. Then we'd have the first "two" so 12 would be next - 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 and then ,19 - the first "nine". Then we would go to 21 - the second "one" and so on totally eliminating the use of a zero. I understand that multiplication and division become very difficult _without_ the use of a zero so I assume that more complicated mathematical functions also become very difficult. I also assume that this is the reason we invented "zero" in the first place - to make is _easier_ to calculate - is this right? Is there any other purpose for the zero? I don't know. I am simply curious as to whether or not we _can_ do mathematics without the zero.
      And I think that if we could do this that doing this vortex math in such a system would yield different results. As I said, I'm no expert and could be talking out of my ear but I do think that the mathematics we use and the mathematics of the natural world are not the same and that perhaps using the maths that governs the natural world might yield interesting results.

    • @nielskorpel8860
      @nielskorpel8860 Před 2 lety +22

      @@alflud what number of lions live on mars?
      * Is that a question about the natural world?
      * What is the answer to that question?
      * Is this an example of 'zero'?
      My answers:
      * I would say so.
      * Zero, given what i think i know about mars.
      * I would say so.
      What are yours?

    • @verypotato6699
      @verypotato6699 Před 2 lety +11

      @@alflud
      So base 9 but formatted differently.
      11->10 (base 10 “9”)
      12->11
      13->12

      19->18
      21->20
      22->21
      Pretty sure what you have invented is just base 9 but with all 0s replaced with 1s, 1s replaced with 2s, 2s replaced with 3s, all the way up to 8s which are replaced with 9s.
      I could create a mathematical system where every digit is indicated with a color and that would be functionally the same as one which used digits.

    • @verypotato6699
      @verypotato6699 Před 2 lety +8

      @@alflud
      Also, how would you express 1-1? That was most likely the reason 0 was invented.
      0 means “nothing”, and that’s why it is something.

  • @Moto_Adventure_Man
    @Moto_Adventure_Man Před 5 měsíci +225

    I once created a small computer program that used exponentiated polar conversions to achieve an infinite number of possible cardioid shapes (like the ones you found), and suddenly it started showing flower petals and other "real" things we see in day-to-day life, all from equations in my code. The universe is a wild place and exploring it with your own hands has to be one of the most satisfying experiences!

    • @birgip.m.1236
      @birgip.m.1236 Před 5 měsíci +25

      @RoddiyKnox
      Yep
      Our education system is more of an indoctrination system to train social obedience & compliance within the bounds of capitalism
      Early in high school we had our essays sent to a university for evaluation. The commentary I received was that I was writing above my level & using too advanced language.
      Sad.

    • @silentfriend369
      @silentfriend369 Před 4 měsíci +2

      :)

    • @MacNSteeez
      @MacNSteeez Před 4 měsíci +8

      Would love to see a video if you could upload. That would be cool to see

    • @neliodas2158
      @neliodas2158 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Does it make you wonder that we are in a computer simulation ?

    • @YTSparty
      @YTSparty Před 2 měsíci +3

      When I was a kid and learning polar coordinates, I did the same thing. I wrote a program to graph things like cartoids using polar coordinate formulae.

  • @AndyGoth111
    @AndyGoth111 Před 2 lety +1499

    In school whenever I noticed patterns such as these divisibility tests, my teachers discouraged me from pursuing them because they themselves were not sure if they'd always hold and were concerned they'd lead me astray. Another example that I recall is my noticing that each power of two is equal to one more than the sum of the lesser powers of two. That's well-established and taken for granted in computer science, yet was unknown to my teachers and regarded with skepticism. I remember also my mom pleading with my teachers to stop counting my work wrong for my daring to use techniques I developed myself from having explored the mathematical foundations of the rote mechanisms they taught. I understand that the pressures on elementary school math teachers drive them to stick with safe techniques, but for them to feel threatened by a student privately moving beyond that is frankly an indictment of the whole system of education.

    • @jonathan.gasser
      @jonathan.gasser Před 2 lety +84

      What a damn shame... Here in France, a lot of school teachers are just "failed researchers" - uni students who wanted to get into academia but just weren't good enough. So we end up with quite a few unmotivated teachers who just rotely follow the program, without much passion at all. I wish the schoolteacher career were seen with more prestige, so that more qualified people would sign up.

    • @pythagorasaurusrex9853
      @pythagorasaurusrex9853 Před 2 lety +90

      You are so right! I myself am a math teacher teaching in advanced (higher level) classes. I share the same experience like you.
      I see so many students being discouraged because they had incompetent teachers in middle school killing all the fun one can have with math. I always try to encourage my students to "explore" a topic, not just feeding them subjects.
      I myself had a bad experience when I was a high school student. My math teacher once kicked me out of the class, because I presented him an alternative solution to a problem. He simply couldnt stand this, didnt let me prove my solution. Turned out I was right and he never apologized later. How pathetic! But this never discouraged me. It had the opposite effect. Otherwise I never would have studied math at university later :)

    • @AndyGoth111
      @AndyGoth111 Před 2 lety +24

      I was lucky to have the mother I did (herself a teacher, though not of math) and many fine books at home (including math books). Also getting into computer programming at a very young age gave me an appreciation for math and its applications not shared by my fellow students or even my teachers. Thus I was able to tough it out.

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 Před 2 lety +14

      You noticed these patterns, but did you prove that they hold? Without some explanation for why it works you can't say for sure that it will work in a given problem.

    • @gibbogle
      @gibbogle Před 2 lety +13

      "each power of two is equal to one more than the sum of the lesser powers of two" adding 1 would make it an odd number. Makes no sense. Did you mean "two more"?
      [edit] Now I see that you start with 2^0, and it makes sense.

  • @mindbenderx1174
    @mindbenderx1174 Před 2 měsíci +31

    I am just a little younger than you, but I hated math in school because every teacher was so dry and boring, I love numbers now, where were all the people like you back then that could have spurred my curiosity much earlier in life. I love when you show your true passions and giggle about it.

    • @Nefylym
      @Nefylym Před 26 dny

      When I was in school my math teachers would get together in the halls to play golf. I don't know where your math teachers came from, but mine must have busted outta tha looney bin at some point. :)

  • @markomus1
    @markomus1 Před 11 měsíci +90

    Tesla didn't throw the 3-6-9 principle out there because there was anything super special about the numbers themselves, but because they correspond with certain realities about electromagnetism, waves, oscillation, vibration, spin, and curvature as found in nature. Or in other words, it's not about the bare math, but how well 3-6-9 applies in the context of physics. It's the basis of 240 VAC @ 60 cps as the most efficient formula for producing electrical power.

    • @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt
      @AllisonRutherford-vs4dt Před 4 měsíci +20

      Exactly, he says he wants to debunk it but then doesn't talk at all about the relationship between the 3 numbers what so ever

    • @Jearbearjenkins
      @Jearbearjenkins Před 4 měsíci +2

      Tesla also explicitly said the electron wasn’t real and thought people who did were stupid. He didn’t particularly have the best physics takes

    • @markomus1
      @markomus1 Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@Jearbearjenkins Your hindsight is just sharp as a tack. Wow. So impressive. I mean...if only you could have been there with your brilliant mind to illuminate him on electrons. Glad we didn't go forward with alternating current! Could you imagine the state of the world?! Wow-we-wowzers!

    • @martingisser273
      @martingisser273 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@markomus1 Tesla also believed in the ether (already discredited back then) and said something brilliantly stupid about Einstein's curved space in 1932.

    • @markomus1
      @markomus1 Před 4 měsíci

      @@martingisser273 Your hindsight is just sharp as a tack. Wow. So impressive. I mean...if only you could have been there with your brilliant mind to illuminate him on the ether (which was NOT discredited universally back then OBVIOUSLY) or informed him about Einstein's curved space. Glad we didn't go forward with alternating current! Could you imagine the state of the world?! Wow-we-wowzers!
      I wonder what sort of scientific things YOU believe RIGHT NOW that someday will be part of someone's, "Martin Gisser also believed in blah blah blah so yeah there's that," narrative.

  • @barbietripping
    @barbietripping Před 2 lety +116

    As an American born-and-raised who was in the public system as both student and teacher… our math education is disgustingly deficient in number theory.
    High school graduates (even some going into stem fields) do not even know the Euclidean algorithm. They have almost no experience working with modular arithmetic.
    Too many decades of parents complaining about this “useless” math subject has led to them and their children being mystified by the simplest of number theory diagrams.
    Thank you mathologer for making so much explanatory content paced for victims of the US public school number theory book banning.
    (Inb4 some other American tells a story about their one teacher that taught them number theory)

    • @WarmongerGandhi
      @WarmongerGandhi Před 2 lety +18

      Yeah, every time there's an attempt to teach more theory in American math classes, a lot of parents get angry because they don't know how to help their kids with their homework. It happened with "New Math" in the '60s, and it happened with Common Core in the 2010s.

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Před 2 lety +11

      @@WarmongerGandhi Another problem with "New Math" was that it focused very strongly on the axiomatic method even in primary schools, where that isn't really appropriate. It tended to put theoretical foundations before practical examples, which is the opposite of how people normally learn math (and how it was historically developed). However, Common Core actually corrects these mistakes in a lot of way, focusing much more on comprehension and on solving problems in multiple ways. That still makes parents livid though, because now they complain "my student knows how to get the right answer, why does he have to do it a particular way? Isn't getting the right answer good enough?"
      As a tutor, I see these complaints all the time, and it is very frustrating. Because no, getting the right answer is definitely _not_ the point. Nobody cares if you can, say, long-divide two decimals. Your calculator will always do it faster and better. People only care if you _understand_ how the algorithm works, which most kids don't, and just following a list of instructions doesn't show you understand.

    • @Dziaji
      @Dziaji Před 2 lety +3

      You were a math teacher in the US and think the US has a national education system? Did you think you were a federal employee or what?

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Dziaji you know roughly 10% of any US public school's funding comes from the federal government, right? We don't have a national education system, but the federal government still has a lot of control.
      Where did he even say the system was nationalized? The comment wasn't edited and I don't see what you're even talking about.

    • @jacobschiller4486
      @jacobschiller4486 Před 2 lety +2

      I'm a high school senior taking discrete mathematics at UC Berkeley. I just learned the Euclidean Algorithm.

  • @joelneely
    @joelneely Před 2 lety +971

    I was taught the concept in elementary school, under the name “casting out nines”. Sadly, it was presented as a trick or technique, without real explanation, which I had to discover for myself. So much is lost when mathematics is taught as a bag of techniques without the underlying beautiful patterns!

    • @maxfern
      @maxfern Před 2 lety +36

      @JoelNeely, I fully agree to your comment. I was also taught this at elementary school, for a later confusion as follows: Since these divisibility rules are Base-10 dependant, I had thought for many years that the divisibility of a number with another was Base dependant, and that perhaps on another base those same numbers were "conmensurable". A gross mistake that hindred developing intuition on numbers theory.
      I loved the explanation where Prof. Burkard decomposes a base 10 number in: a (9+1) + b (99+1) + c (999+1) ... seen it that way is so straightforward !

    • @marklarsen9894
      @marklarsen9894 Před 2 lety +20

      my grandfather taught me "casting out nines" about 50 years ago. he used it to verify this hand calculations (pre-calculator) (+ - * /). it is a way to find single digit errors, however it has a weakness, it cannot detect the error of having a zero instead of a nine (and vice versa) . Also, it is only for numbers expressed in base ten.

    • @joelneely
      @joelneely Před 2 lety +15

      @@marklarsen9894 Yes, the single-digit issue is shared by many check-digit schemes used to protect "numbers" from transcription errors. (I used the scare quotes because these "numbers"-such as account "numbers"-are really just identifiers made up of digits, not intended for use in numeric calculation.) Such schemes were especially important before computer networks were so pervasive, and data were captured and coped by hand. There are other kinds of errors-such as transposing adjacent digits-to which a simple digit-sum check digit is blind. That's why some check-digit schemes also applied weights to the individual digit positions.

    • @outputcoupler7819
      @outputcoupler7819 Před 2 lety +17

      I was also taught "casting out nines" in high school back in the 90s. My math teacher was great, but didn't have significant post-high school math education, and didn't know any of the deeper meaning behind anything. So the only application she knew for "casting out nines" was what it said in our textbook (error checking), and everybody hated it because we were lazy high school kids who were prone to saying stuff like "in the real world I'll just use a calculator".
      While it's easy to be amused or annoyed at some of these silly viral math things that miss the forest for the trees, I feel like there's something very important we need to learn from them about how to engage with people about math and education in general.

    • @mr.johnson3844
      @mr.johnson3844 Před 2 lety +37

      I'm a math teacher, and, believe me, we would love to teach the real explanations alongside the techniques. Unfortunately, we simply do not have the time, and we have to prioritize. The techniques are more useful for getting students to pass the tests, and the tests determine our ratings as teachers. Additionally, we are training for the workforce, so the technique and ability to get the correct answer is pragmatically more important than understanding the correct answer. Knowing your bridge will stand up is more important than knowing why it stands up. Proper dieting is essential to good nutrition even if you don't know the chemistry or biology involved.
      At my school, I've got 45 minutes a day for 187 days to teach students everything in Algebra. That 187 days does not account for student holidays (at least 14 days), bad weather days (at least 3), and the many interruptions caused by events such as Pep Rallies, ACT-testing, SAT-testing, MAP-testing, emergency drills, professional learning conferences, etc. I would estimate that I only have about 113 hours (two full 8-hour-day weeks) with my students over the course of the entire year. Can you imagine learning EVERYTHING there is to know about Algebra if you were given only given 8 hours a day for 14 days? It's simply not feasible. Especially if you're sharing the instructor with 150 peers.

  • @OmegaProxy
    @OmegaProxy Před 4 měsíci +32

    My maths skills have always been lacking but I find this absolutely fascinating. Just learning about digital roots, the shortcuts for dividing by nine and finding the remainders is blowing my tiny mind. I’ll probably have to watch it a few times.
    Yep, definitely have to watch it a few times.

    • @Noqtis
      @Noqtis Před 3 měsíci

      math is super ez. you take a numba and you take another numba and than you do something with the numbaz to get a new numba. you can also come up with non existing numbaz to do theoretical operations with those to get theoretical numbaz. that's how I calculate how my piss moves thru our dimension into the next. it's quite ez, you just need some numbaz. now go out there and become the next Einstein. you can do it Mr. OmegeProxy!

  • @mikepeter1323
    @mikepeter1323 Před 5 měsíci +5

    What i found amazing about the doubling sequence is that the embryon (and all the cells ) is using this exact sequence of doubling as well as the processor architecture.

  • @lzkovacs
    @lzkovacs Před 2 lety +1940

    Division by 7 always produces 142857. Spare key to the Universe, if you lost the master copy

    • @joshmyer9
      @joshmyer9 Před 2 lety +170

      I just tried it, and it got stuck in the lock. The digits aren't in the right order, so I guess it makes sense. Gonna have to go flip a coin to make a new universe and try again...

    • @cassidydude
      @cassidydude Před 2 lety +76

      Yeah, they’re in the same order, just starting in a different location in the sequence.

    • @johnopalko5223
      @johnopalko5223 Před 2 lety +145

      If you lose your key to the universe, call the LockPickingLawyer. He'll open it for you then he'll lock it back up and open it again just to show that it wasn't a fluke.

    • @deedoublejay
      @deedoublejay Před 2 lety +43

      I noticed the matching digits as well (in a different order). I'm nowhere near smart enough to figure out if there's a connection, but it's a cool coincidence.

    • @ValkyRiver
      @ValkyRiver Před 2 lety +97

      Wait, are you assuming that base ten is a fundamental part of the universe…?

  • @olerocker3470
    @olerocker3470 Před 2 lety +321

    Looks like I unknowingly introduced this to myself and my wife and daughters with a little game we used to play while travelling. We would add up the numbers on license plates and see who came up with the "digital root" the quickest, even though we didn't know that was the term to use. We saw very quickly that any combination of numbers that add up to 9 could be eliminated so 572 would be 5 without going through the process of adding. Later, as 3 or 4 number plates lost its challenge, we included letters. The letters "I" and "R" could automatically be eliminated since they corresponded to the number 9 and 18 respectively. This expanded the challenge because you had to figure out the numbers corresponding to the letters. As you played the game this became more intuitive when you could eliminate combinations of letters that added up to 9 for elimination. Example GSP562 would be 1. One of my daughters got so good at it that within seconds she could get the digital root of signs with just letters such as names of towns or short sentences.

    • @m.c.4458
      @m.c.4458 Před 2 lety +29

      fascinating sounds like you are all natural at decoding

    • @terriniemeier6578
      @terriniemeier6578 Před 2 lety +3

      Ask yourself are you right handed left handed what are your daughters you have two daughters Plus Sons they will give you up for the sons.

    • @elizabethpeterson56
      @elizabethpeterson56 Před 2 lety +8

      wow. an incredible game. we kearn and see patterns so quickly.

    • @genepietro7692
      @genepietro7692 Před 2 lety +1

      Wow!

    • @zackkuehle8338
      @zackkuehle8338 Před 2 lety +7

      What a brilliant game? I’ll have to keep this in mind when we pile in the van for our next trek.

  • @kirkdoray3393
    @kirkdoray3393 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you for your clear, intuitive, and expansive explanations, illustrations, and wry sense of humor!

  • @spikewulfenden706
    @spikewulfenden706 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Hi, I’ve been looking all over the ‘net, libraries etc. and written text is so slim on the ground! I recall being amazed, when as 9 yr kid, finding the symmetry of the 9X table. Then as time wore on, through school and on, I stumbled across Teslas’ Vortex diagram. Watching this video has opened my eyes to more patterns!!

  • @kevinholland2775
    @kevinholland2775 Před 2 lety +143

    I the 1950's I was taught to check math problems by something the teacher called "casting out nines." I didnt know why it worked but was intrigued by it. 60 years later I stubble across the answer.

    • @stevethea5250
      @stevethea5250 Před rokem +2

      @@BezalElle tell me too!

    • @watwthmot
      @watwthmot Před rokem +2

      Don't have the answer but one of my finance managers used to use the technique to check the added up data from his spreadsheets.

    • @geod3589
      @geod3589 Před rokem +1

      @@watwthmot I had forgotten about it until I read your post, but in accounting some similar process was used.

    • @tripptt9
      @tripptt9 Před rokem +3

      Divisible by 9 errors in accounting are many times a transposing error ..eg writing 187 instead of 178 ..the difference is 9( 187 -178)..back in the days of adding up columns of numbers w a calculator .

    • @igold8035
      @igold8035 Před rokem +2

      I was in grade school in the 60's in NY and was taught the same thing and they also called it "casting out nines". Later in life when we were using printing calculators and you had to "double tape" every bank deposit, if your two results were different and the difference was divisible by nine, you knew you had a transposition error.

  • @lolpepper707
    @lolpepper707 Před 2 lety +30

    9:23
    I'm a high-school maths teacher. I have taught that dumbed-down divisibility-by-9 test without going into digital-roots and the remainder property. I shall never do it again. Props to your deliciously made videos.

  • @KigenEkeson
    @KigenEkeson Před 10 měsíci +45

    Wow, I could listen to you all day! If I had had you for a math teacher in high school for a semester or two, I would have majored in mathematics in university! I hope you are teaching young people somewhere. Thank you!!

  • @markorizk7631
    @markorizk7631 Před 3 měsíci

    That's mind blowing 🤯 I really didn't want the video to end. Thank you so much 👍

  • @RobRingley
    @RobRingley Před 2 lety +325

    You, sir, are brilliant. I’ve never seen something so complex, presented in such a simple way, that was so incredibly easy to follow. Please don’t ever stop making these videos. They, and you, are terrific. Thank you.

    • @cecilyschneider3631
      @cecilyschneider3631 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree! Unfortunately, or not, now I'm going to theorize and write proofs that freak people out, and that never ends well...but it's so fun!!!

    • @justinaldrich1719
      @justinaldrich1719 Před 2 lety +4

      he is just copying and pasting every other video out there.

    • @surferxblood
      @surferxblood Před rokem +2

      He’s just copying every other single video that talks about 369z

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 Před rokem

      @@cecilyschneider3631 epic, show me them lol

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 Před rokem +2

      @@surferxblood isn't every other video the ones saying they're the secret to the universe?

  • @toastersock
    @toastersock Před 2 lety +29

    As an ex Maths teacher in UK the reason this doesn't get taught is simply because it is not in the curriculum, and to actually get through the curriculum leaves no time to play with Maths, or indulge the class in whatever the teacher finds interesting or stimulating (supposing he/she has a higher understanding of Maths in the first place!).

    • @CloudSpirals
      @CloudSpirals Před 2 lety +8

      All hail lord curriculum

    • @thomasnettey4662
      @thomasnettey4662 Před 2 lety +1

      @Chris Lauden I agree.

    • @koenth2359
      @koenth2359 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes it is quite sad that the curriculum does not leave that room. I trust that Burkhard is not blaming the teachers for that!
      But it is quite sad that the social status of maths (and therefore the interest and learning speed of children!) is in such a deplorable state. It is something I try to battle against and especially Mathologer does a great job in this respect!

    • @G4VRX
      @G4VRX Před 2 lety +2

      Yes , well said. The broad curriculum is the summation of alot of mankinds work of course. In the real world beyond + -* and / only a handful of the next generation actually find yearly let alone daily applications for Pythagoras, solving a quadratic or calculus. Alot of interesting math has niche applications. We can see the benefit of this , like considering the math the Rubiks cube can throw up , but we have to "weigh" this usefulness.
      However "casting out the 9s" IS very useful really. Take the summation of say 5 numbers all with varying decimal place information. Did you punch all the numbers into the calculator correctly ? Some calculators the information may have been lost off the screen...So using the maths here can at least apply a quick check ...

    • @cara-seyun
      @cara-seyun Před 2 lety +1

      Math teachers be two weeks behind one week after class starts

  • @briancase6180
    @briancase6180 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Super cool as always. This looks pretty accessible. I hope to find time to look into Seymour's explanation. Thanks!

  • @DJCoolHoop
    @DJCoolHoop Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have looked at Math and Engineering in a longhand way until I realized that keeping things simple in the beginning will find a successful result in a physical form. Understanding is a never ending experience of relationships that is endless.

  • @TestSpaceMonkey
    @TestSpaceMonkey Před 2 lety +103

    "A conspicuously simple and universal pattern is more likely a feature of the observer's perspective than the universe being observed." ... seems a more profound lesson than anything one could wring from an obsession over Tesla circles. Thanks!

    • @jn7457
      @jn7457 Před 2 lety +1

      Great quote! Who said it?

    • @BringDHouseDown
      @BringDHouseDown Před 2 lety

      "an obsession over Tesla circles"

    • @nemgyuri
      @nemgyuri Před 2 lety +4

      So we are going use quotes as math proofs from now on?

    • @lagarttemido
      @lagarttemido Před 2 lety +1

      Observer and object are both parts of the same totality.

    • @Rotalus
      @Rotalus Před 2 lety +1

      now prove it.

  • @contestmath6257
    @contestmath6257 Před 2 lety +110

    I am from Austria and we never learned that the number, which remains actually is the remainder (9:45). When I learned about modular arithmetic in math Olympiad, I guessed that fact to be true while doing an example. Not even my highly invested teacher was sure, whether the solution was right. Infuriating, that you do not learn these deeper truths about mathematics at school.

    • @dsdsspp7130
      @dsdsspp7130 Před 2 lety +5

      depends on your school. we were thought about that.
      we were also given homework to come up with divisibility tests for other numbers like 7 and 11.

    • @samuelmahler5961
      @samuelmahler5961 Před 2 lety +6

      @@dsdsspp7130 Dude is your teacher Flammable Maths? I think he talked about giving his students that exact homework. I'm just asking because I don't think that is going to be a common task to give to students.

    • @mathlegendno12
      @mathlegendno12 Před 2 lety +2

      @@samuelmahler5961 Out of curiosity what's the answer?

    • @dsdsspp7130
      @dsdsspp7130 Před 2 lety +3

      @@samuelmahler5961 no, it's from years ago back in high school. it might have been a textbook question, it's not hard to figure out if you know modular arithmetic which was a part of our curriculum.
      we certainly did have very passionate maths teachers though.

    • @dsdsspp7130
      @dsdsspp7130 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mathlegendno12 ​ just search divisibily test for 11 and 7 in google you'll find it in no time.
      if you want to solve it yourself here is a hint:
      just calculate the remainders of powers of 10. here's how to do it for 11:
      remainder of 10^n to 11 is always 1 (if n is even) or -1 (if n is odd)
      example: 432 = 4*100 + 3*10 + 2*1 ===> 4 - 3 + 2 = 3 , so remainder of 432 divided by 11 is 3)
      so just like 9 you sum up all the digits except you have to negate every other digit with the rightmost digit being positive.

  • @robpatterson2861
    @robpatterson2861 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You blew my mind just now! Wow! Thank-you!

  • @jamesb8464
    @jamesb8464 Před 2 měsíci +3

    If you look at drawings from the father of geometry, Euclid was born around 300 B.C. and he has 369 theory shapes exactly like you describe all over his work. Thank you for the video we enjoyed it.

  • @katherinebarnes6190
    @katherinebarnes6190 Před rokem +186

    I have always been intimidated by math. But this video has been eye opening. For the first time in my life I am interested in math. It was engaging and made me want to know more.

  • @HienNguyenHMN
    @HienNguyenHMN Před 2 lety +744

    I'm convinced Tesla thought this was a neat mathematics trick, and someone picked it up as "mystical" because Tesla is smart.

    • @TheRosyCodex
      @TheRosyCodex Před 2 lety +81

      what's perplexing about Tesla is he wasn't particularly well-versed in mathematics. he engineered devices in his imagination for the most part. It was Carl Steinmetz, an oft-forgotten figure in the history of math and science, who attempted to actually work out the math of what Tesla was doing.

    • @Dziaji
      @Dziaji Před 2 lety +53

      Tesla never explained why 3, 6, and 9 were the key to the universe. This digital root stuff probably has nothing to do with it.

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 Před 2 lety +21

      Eh, no. Tesla was a hack who for every 'real' invention had a grandiose, self-aggrandizing nonsense that only existed in his imagination. See death rays, wireless energy transmission, quack diets, pretending he invented radio, or saying special relativity is wrong. It's quite possible he invented some dumb number sequence and thought it's somehow magical.

    • @sk8pkl
      @sk8pkl Před 2 lety +65

      Tesla had a very profound understanding of everything deeper than anyone on earth today. Numbers speak, but not with words. It is very very hard to explain to someone the importance of the particularities of that number 9 in equations like he showed in the vid for example. It is something you have to see or to do to understand.

    • @GeneralSorrow
      @GeneralSorrow Před 2 lety +21

      @@KuK137 💩

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    @Brennanoliver775 Před měsícem +518

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      @BeverleeR.Ziegler Před měsícem

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      @LenaSchweizer-ff8xy Před měsícem

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      @Erickruiz562 Před měsícem

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  • @paulilicious94
    @paulilicious94 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Man this is mind-blowing. Is this the key to the universe? It certainly seems so.

  • @torporvasflam8670
    @torporvasflam8670 Před 2 lety +32

    Man, I was never taught the divisibility test. Christ almighty that would have saved so much time.

  • @HallwaysHits
    @HallwaysHits Před 2 lety +214

    I wasn't even taught the divisibility test, let alone the remainder function! This is really cool!

    • @jaytravis2487
      @jaytravis2487 Před 2 lety +13

      You must've been educated in u.s.! We gotta great math program right?! But no really teachers are great once you get into those higher level highschool classes. It's where the American education system actually works. Problem is you got phys. Ed majors teaching math classes at critical levels like algebra and their just not suited for the job.

    • @Bizarro_na_chapa
      @Bizarro_na_chapa Před 2 lety +1

      This reminded me a very old way to prove something called *9 prove* were we subtract 9.... details were gone

    • @danielgeci4513
      @danielgeci4513 Před 2 lety +1

      That explains it. School doesn't do cool, so they nixed that lesson real quick. God forbid it be teachers and the education systems job to make learning interesting.

    • @FantomMC2
      @FantomMC2 Před 2 lety +1

      Same :(

    • @terryjwood
      @terryjwood Před 2 lety

      My 7th grade teacher taught us about the divisibility test and I've used it ever since for division by 9 and 3.

  • @toreoft
    @toreoft Před 6 měsíci +2

    The connection between mathematics and physics or reality is something physicists are particularly fond of. I think one can overdo that, but underdoing it is also not good because many phenomena can be much more accurately described mathematically than with ordinary words. A balance seems to me to be the best path.

    • @neliodas2158
      @neliodas2158 Před 3 měsíci

      Does it make you wonder that we are in a simulation ?

  • @there_can_only_be_one__unicorn

    I don't know much about math, but that was very fascinating and quite intriguing. Thank you for the time and effort you invest in your productions they are very much appreciated and enjoyed -Thank you!💌🇨🇦

  • @jamaalmay
    @jamaalmay Před 2 lety +57

    I remember learning this in 1st grade. She said it was a short cut and I assumed it was being taught to everyone. I remember taking longer than other students to learn long division because I couldn’t find a reason I should use it since I could do the problems in my head using these techniques. I didn’t t know it was rarely taught until you said it.

    • @brianwilson9828
      @brianwilson9828 Před 2 lety +9

      seriously, you can do this in your head? I'm soooo phuked in the head with math! I'm jealous of everyone here in this lobby!

    • @Just10_Dime
      @Just10_Dime Před 2 lety +17

      I was accused of cheating throughout grade school and really math classes in general bc I did everything in my head and writing my steps down made zero sense and would often mess me up. No work apparently means cheating instead of being logical and easy

    • @redwow
      @redwow Před 2 lety

      he he!

    • @princesssilverblood
      @princesssilverblood Před 2 lety +2

      @@Just10_Dime Agreed! Hell , it took me longer to "show my work" than it did to just do the problem... smh

    • @annegallagher8284
      @annegallagher8284 Před 2 lety

      Glad you said that. In the 1950s I couldn't learn long-division too, as I could do it in my head.

  • @wisdom8275
    @wisdom8275 Před 2 lety +27

    He said it was A key to the universe not The key. Their is a very stark difference. With the work he did do, his findings with those numbers is astonishing. Limited but nothing short of astonishing.

    • @gaurangagarwal3243
      @gaurangagarwal3243 Před rokem +2

      Bruh

    • @cmotdibbler8105
      @cmotdibbler8105 Před rokem

      Pythagoras who was a messianic type figure had this all nailed down in the mystery schools and i think Tesla got his knowledge from the same source

    • @cmotdibbler8105
      @cmotdibbler8105 Před rokem

      @TrashLid Hi Trashlid, its because I read. Try some Manly P Hall, John Black and mystery school research. It was also my opinion. Certainly not a conspiracy theory. Why do 'smart' people like you whine so much instead of humility?

  • @thomensley496
    @thomensley496 Před měsícem +1

    In the US of America. As an industrial electrition. We use 3 colors for 3 phase power. You add the circute number's digits. When divied by 3. the remainder. Will tell you what color to use. If we had 9 colors. This would work as well. Bravo!

  • @sourishghosh8293
    @sourishghosh8293 Před rokem +3

    9:46 I remember figuring this out after teacher taught us the usual divisibilty rule for 9 and I shared it with the class. The teacher praised me for pointing it out and it made the topic a little simple for the whole class!

  • @owenbechtel
    @owenbechtel Před 2 lety +95

    Solution to the problem at 16:14
    Start with this equation, which is true for every value of k:
    5^k * 2^k = 10^k
    The digital root of any power of 10 is 1, so
    DR(5^k * 2^k) = 1
    Using the multiplication rule you explained earlier,
    DR(DR(5^k) * DR(2^k)) = 1
    In other words, DR(5^k) and DR(2^k) have to be multiplicative inverses of each other.
    Taking the “digital root” of an integer is equivalent to modding it by 9. (The only difference is that if DR(n) = 9, then n mod 9 = 0.) In mod-9 arithmetic, every number except for 0, 3, and 6 has a unique multiplicative inverse. Since the digital root of a power of 2 is never 3, 6, or 9, this means that DR(2^k) completely determines DR(5^k).
    As k increases, the value of DR(2^k) cycles as follows:
    2 4 8 7 5 1 2 4 8 7 5 1 …
    Taking the multiplicative inverse of each number above gives the values of DR(5^k).
    5 7 8 4 2 1 5 7 8 4 2 1 …
    So DR(2^k) and DR(5^k) cycle through the same values, but in reverse.

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  Před 2 lety +21

      Looks good :)

    • @stanleydodds9
      @stanleydodds9 Před 2 lety +15

      You don't need to evaluate all the numbers in the two cycles to check that one is the reverse of the other;
      5 is the multiplicative inverse of 2, so 5^k is congruent to 2^(-k). So as k increases, it runs through the same cycle in the opposite order.

  • @sebastiansimon7557
    @sebastiansimon7557 Před 2 lety +5

    I really appreciate the fact that you spend time watching other CZcams videos, in addition to creating your own. This is what makes Mathologer not merely “yet another maths channel”, but something of higher value; your videos don’t just provide yet another explanation of the same thing, but provide further explanation _in context_ of existing explanation attempts. Love it!

  • @bobh6728
    @bobh6728 Před 11 měsíci

    We were taught casting out nines which was basically mod 9 arithmetic. It made it easy to check the addition of a long list of numbers.

  • @travismarker9617
    @travismarker9617 Před 4 měsíci

    Literally the first video in a long time I actually had to listen to at normal speed my man should be an auctioneer lmao

  • @shaundocherty96
    @shaundocherty96 Před rokem +8

    It’s nice to know new people are trying to understand a new topic of math I remember when I came across this when mark Rodin was first starting off when we where still trying to work out coils and the potential of the math! And we’re constantly learning new things!

  • @markmayberry5459
    @markmayberry5459 Před 2 lety +43

    I think this is the kindest, most conscientious debunking of mathematical mysticism I've ever seen. I love this channel so much lol

    • @podunkest
      @podunkest Před 2 lety +8

      Agree. Wonderful channel. And that's how it should be done. I immediately lose respect for or won't continue listening to someone if they're acting like they're on the offensive, regardless if I think they are right or not or if they align with what I am inclined to believe. There's enough condescension and inflammatory behavior out there, plus you're not going to win any minds or hearts by acting like that, it's just pandering to people who already agree with you. Cheers.

    • @333crypta
      @333crypta Před 2 lety +1

      You should get out more. 🤓

    • @__-bz7wh
      @__-bz7wh Před 2 lety +8

      So what did Tesla mean when he said that then? Was it just an elaborate troll? Do you think Tesla would say something like that with nothing behind it?

    • @peaceenjoyer
      @peaceenjoyer Před 2 lety +1

      why do you people talk like that

    • @markmayberry5459
      @markmayberry5459 Před 2 lety

      @@peaceenjoyer sorry, talk like what? I'd love to discuss the content in the video, I think I'm just missing some context

  • @3.6_Sara
    @3.6_Sara Před 5 měsíci +1

    Truly fascinating, thank you ✨

  • @aminafra
    @aminafra Před rokem

    Great delivery of semi-complex information. Thanks

  • @TingleWood
    @TingleWood Před 2 lety +108

    Way, way back in the early 1980's, I had to make a choice between continuing Math or Art studies, for my final 2 years of high school. I chose my artistry and have always kept a little candle burning for my love of numbers and equations. I have to tell you, I watched as I am interested in Tesla and was curious of the vortex diagrams you might display. Now I musts thank you as I am SO EXCITED by what you have shared, despite being in my late 50s, I am going to return to study math. So, thank you, thank you for inspiring me!

    • @gustavinus
      @gustavinus Před 2 lety +11

      Math should never be optional in school. It is always the most important discipline and the basis of all else (including art).

    • @edwinwebber5776
      @edwinwebber5776 Před 2 lety +3

      I chose math. I always felt art was just welfare for idiots.

    • @cdanielh128
      @cdanielh128 Před 2 lety +10

      ​@@edwinwebber5776 If that makes you feel like a bigger person go for it.

    • @dawgbrainaurtist2950
      @dawgbrainaurtist2950 Před 2 lety

      ​ @cdanielh128
      The primate brain tricks itself into releasing a temporary burst of dopamine. The sensation fades and they feel worse than before.
      As with any drug, the rush fades as tolerance builds, as they ever increase the dosage.
      The anger that Mr. Webber was cultivating, starts to fester more and more until it becomes this very hate-filled and self-destructive loop seen here.
      That's when you realize that every hateful and ugly reply they made was that of a sad and very lonely person whom were subconsciously screaming to just be noticed.
      He doesn't feel any better or bigger. Never will acting like this either.
      I do hope @Edwin Webber gets his life all figured out and treats everyone, including strangers on the web, with respect. A little decorum can go a long way.

    • @SubconsciousLight
      @SubconsciousLight Před rokem +3

      @@edwinwebber5776 Thats simply because you don´t understand it. That you don´t understand something doeasn´t make others anything:D Art has LITERALLY saved lives:)

  • @Zuldaar
    @Zuldaar Před 2 lety +15

    A friend and I had a driving game where we raced to see who gets the digital root from random cars' driving plates (back then the standard local driving plate contained 6 digits). Eventually I realized that 9's were inconsequential and could be ignored, immediately afterwards both of us sped up our game by "distributing" values, forming 9's and disregarding them.
    An example of what is our sped up mental process: 166384 = 1+8, 6+3, 6+4 = 1
    I also just learned from this video that what we were doing is called Digital Root

  • @the_s3cr3t
    @the_s3cr3t Před rokem +2

    4 minutes in and i must say your presention skills are impressive.
    Keep up

  • @ashoksafaya5397
    @ashoksafaya5397 Před měsícem

    Thanks for such a clear explanation and understanding driving me too to it.

  • @Shashu_the_little_Voidling
    @Shashu_the_little_Voidling Před 2 lety +25

    This didn't ruin vortex maths for me, just made it much more interesting and expansive

    • @KipIngram
      @KipIngram Před 2 lety +3

      It *is* interesting, without a doubt. Just not... "mystical."

    • @stikkgreen5237
      @stikkgreen5237 Před 2 lety

      @@KipIngram It's most definitely mystical. There are other properties he is not discussing. And; did you notice? None of the other base models have the flip in polarity like that of 3 and 6. The others are continuous loops. The 369 does crazy things when applied to electromagnetism and such.

  • @michaelstevenson1382
    @michaelstevenson1382 Před 2 lety +111

    Thank God someone's finally talking about these things! I stumbled upon one of these Tesla 3 6 9 videos ages ago, and I knew that everything they said definitely wasn't magic or anything and probably had a simple explanation in number theory, but I could never put it into words myself. I'm so glad someone finally put together an understandable and informative response to those things.

    • @cantkeepitin
      @cantkeepitin Před 2 lety +4

      But I believe that the root cause is simply using 10 as base is quite intuitive. As 10 is an arbitary choice, the whole stuff is nothing general

    • @oralevato7848
      @oralevato7848 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you! I was excatly the same, I figured it was just some base 10 shennanigans, even found the pattern was almost identical in base 8, but I don't have the education/smarts to prove anything. So they just laughed at me in the comments when I tried to explain to them.

    • @lloydvasser4889
      @lloydvasser4889 Před 2 lety +3

      Maybe the real conclusion is that number theory is magic.

    • @TechyBen
      @TechyBen Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, I did not know the "trick" in the video. But as soon as I saw it I was like "It's just a spirograph" or some other display of a function. So there is an underlying mathematical function, and it's a pretty way of displaying it. Interesting if used to show how leaves/petals form a certain shape, but just interesting and useful, not magic.

    • @alwayscensored6871
      @alwayscensored6871 Před 2 lety

      Sumerians used base 60

  • @AlessandroDruetto
    @AlessandroDruetto Před 5 měsíci +1

    Actually, here in Italy they teach this "digital root" test to check divisibility for 3 (recursive sum of digits equal to 3, 6 or 9), for 6 (EVEN numbers divisible by 3 by the previous test), for 9 (recursive sum of digits equal to 9); even with the "remainder" detail mentioned at 9:30 for the special case of 9. They used to teach that method in primary school, back in the 90s (born in 1988), and I am pretty sure they never stopped to do that.

  • @tastemakerguidie
    @tastemakerguidie Před 6 měsíci +1

    in opening a kaleidoscope ; the irony that keloid variables are not heart rate measures indicating ambient light doesn't adjust from angularity adjacent in linear grid

  • @mooneymooney251
    @mooneymooney251 Před 2 lety +9

    When I was in 8th grade back a 100 years ago😁, I remember a kid telling our math teacher about the mysterious 3-6-9 numbers! Our math teacher explained to us every single number could be magical if we deeply look for it. As a matter of fact he give us a group project assigning all different numbers to different groups to come up with the uniqueness of a particular number. By the end of the week we found out that every single number 0 to 9 can be unique and magical! So everytime I see these Tesla 369 videos, they remind me of my old math teacher!

    • @anandmehta1335
      @anandmehta1335 Před 2 lety

      This is linked to the following paradox. "n is the smallest positive integer which is not unique." But the very fact that it is the SMALLEST such number makes it unique!

    • @kingki1953
      @kingki1953 Před 2 lety

      Could be your teachers is from future to to teach you about secret code of universe, but she/he doesn't want to teach you directly to beyond our understanding because it will hurt.

    • @mooneymooney251
      @mooneymooney251 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kingki1953 there is no secret code for the universe! We are here for no reasons, just a result of a freak accident called the big bang!

    • @kingki1953
      @kingki1953 Před 2 lety

      @@mooneymooney251 our unknowledgeable is the secret of universe

  • @JesusLopez-yx8lc
    @JesusLopez-yx8lc Před rokem +3

    I'm fascinated by all this. I have to watch it multiple times. I have no clue what this is used for. I only use basic math in my work. I ♥️ all these videos. Great job explaining 👏

  • @christopherpett3264
    @christopherpett3264 Před rokem

    Fantastic multiples of 3 6 9 create vortices. This is how the fabric spacetime interacts with matter and energy from stomach, venturi, eruptions, corollary, double helix and solar system.

  • @borndeafin1ear
    @borndeafin1ear Před 5 měsíci +2

    I am a software application developer. I realized certain patterns regarding the success and stability of a software solution that actually applies to every system. It is so common that everyone is aware of them, but nobody realizes it. Every system that could possibly occur requires 3 pillars of support. It doesn't matter how simple or complex it is. In fact these 3 pillars not only support the system, but also support each other. Perhaps there is a way to expand these 3 pillars into multiple dimensions, which can easily generate highly complex systems that would likely appear chaotic. Interesting.

  • @notsecure6855
    @notsecure6855 Před rokem +55

    I'm not a math teacher, but I am a math adjunct teacher: I teach physics.
    I do teach the rule "add up the digits to see if it is divisible by 3 (repeat for 9)" rule.
    If you could make a video of "things they ought to teach in school" I promise I will teach all of them.
    Thanks, Steve

    • @stevefrench6576
      @stevefrench6576 Před rokem +1

      I love this .

    • @SubNano144
      @SubNano144 Před rokem +1

      From your perspective as a physics teacher, have you ever considered the possibility that the physics paradime being taught could be an unnecessarily complicated way of modeling the universe? Could some of the most prolific engineers in history have been aware of a greatly simplified model which can be used to explain everything, including that which your existing paradime has no answers for?

    • @rickrictimeishort7278
      @rickrictimeishort7278 Před rokem

      I believe humanities savoir is outside the realm of physics

    • @dynachile8095
      @dynachile8095 Před rokem

      I was thought both for 3 and 9 the rule is similar. That would mean the system can be setup in base of 1 2 3 which is just a triangle. Doubling between 1 and 2 as the repeated sequence. An alien duck with 3 toes maybe?

  • @StickyBit7777
    @StickyBit7777 Před 2 lety +28

    I was not taught the divisibility by 9 test in school. But my father did teach that and many other mathematical concepts to me when I was very young. (Mid 1960's) He used a book called The Calculator's Cunning which used number theory to teach people how to perform complex math in their heads. I still have the book.
    Edit: Here's the book information for those who asked.
    CALCULATOR'S CUNNING
    The Art of Quick Reckoning
    Karl Menninger
    Translated from the Tenth, Revised, German Edition by
    E. J. F. PRIMROSE
    Forward by Martin Gardner
    BASIC BOOKS, INC., PUBLISHERS
    New York
    First published in the German language by Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, Gottingen, under the title, Rechenkniffe: lustiges und vorteilhaftes Rechnen
    Tenth, revised edition 1961
    English translation copyright 1964 by G. Bell and Sons Ltd.
    Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 65-19543
    Printed in the United States of America

    • @shafisayyed624
      @shafisayyed624 Před 2 lety +4

      Share that book with me

    • @jackrichards1863
      @jackrichards1863 Před 2 lety +3

      good to know. Nearing 60 Y.O. I still want for the learning of such things. I will look into getting a copy of that book. Thank you for sharing that knowledge.

    • @bawatabetando6902
      @bawatabetando6902 Před 2 lety +1

      Please could you also share that book with me?

    • @TK-sx4fr
      @TK-sx4fr Před 2 lety +1

      Where can we get the book?

    • @StickyBit7777
      @StickyBit7777 Před 2 lety

      @@TK-sx4fr I would assume that this book has been out of print for decades, and I have no idea how easy or hard it may be to find.

  • @MoonDragn77
    @MoonDragn77 Před 3 měsíci

    These diagrams remind me of the spiral graphs we used to have as a kid. It also resembles the graphics program I wrote in college where we had to code something like a drawing program. I don't even remember what mathematical formula I used but it was related to sin and cos of x and y and I plotted those values based on the radius. Instant spiral graph like drawings on the screen of any size.

  • @Paulakat517
    @Paulakat517 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Tesla also spoke that there is no "absence of light" there is only light and darkness is unmanifested light. Matter is light and even sound has a light frequency.

  • @markharris1223
    @markharris1223 Před 2 lety +10

    There is a correlation between liking maths and being able to do maths. If only my maths teachers had known this.

    • @Garycarlyle
      @Garycarlyle Před 2 lety

      Yeah because liking something tends to lead with playing with it. I never liked math. I could do some of it and I realised its importance. Mostly it bored me. I like more applied things. Of course there is applications for math but we all tend to find a way to work it out when we need to somehow.

    • @markharris1223
      @markharris1223 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Garycarlyle I agree!

  • @martijn8554
    @martijn8554 Před 2 lety +22

    Something I was waiting for but wasn't mentioned: the horizontal symmetry, which can be explained by simply numbering the points with negative numbers going anticlockwise.

  • @aleksandarrudic3694
    @aleksandarrudic3694 Před 4 měsíci

    The special case of these patters appear if the modulo basis is a prime, in which case the repeating set of the elements is a finite discrete field (of N-1 elements, N being the basis), which is useful in many very commonly used encryption and data protection schemes.

  • @titan333
    @titan333 Před 4 měsíci

    Crazy to know the significance of this number existed thousands a year before him, inspiration, answers are already here, we just need to discover it, like he did!

  • @Saral_Lekhi
    @Saral_Lekhi Před rokem +6

    I LOVE THIS. I have been terrified of maths but I now sit in wonder. ❤️🙏

  • @antonyknight4584
    @antonyknight4584 Před rokem +4

    Wonderfully narrated and illustrated. Your channel is quite addictive! Thank you for your efforts, more please !

  • @scottdavenport551
    @scottdavenport551 Před 11 měsíci

    Taught me about digital roots, now I will teach my kids about them.

  • @user-qk1cx6gs2z
    @user-qk1cx6gs2z Před 7 měsíci +1

    Happy to see you again . Thank you.

  • @andrerouth4253
    @andrerouth4253 Před rokem +8

    Thank you. Very concise and humorous! I was taught this as part of a "bag of tricks" to speed through math tests in elementary school in post-WW2 Britain. Mental arithmetic was highly prized. I hope you do keep up your excellent videos beyond your 100th birthday. I mean, what's special about 100?

  • @tristentillman5194
    @tristentillman5194 Před rokem +6

    You know this man is the real deal when CZcams’s subtitles gets it right

  • @storypals
    @storypals Před 6 hodinami

    Spectacular! Wow, the best math teach ever!

  • @digitalchameleon1884
    @digitalchameleon1884 Před 5 měsíci

    Amazing you blew my mind... Great vid.

  • @andreweyo-ita4970
    @andreweyo-ita4970 Před 2 lety +40

    I recognized the divisibility pattern around 3's and 9's as a child doing the times tables as explained in the video. I later briefly brought up recognizing the pattern in college during Algebra II (comes in handy doing factors) and seemed to surprise everyone in the room. Didn't know other people like "junk" math. 😆

  • @H34L5
    @H34L5 Před 2 lety +32

    Dear Mathologer, I was not taught this pattern in school. In 3rd grade i observed the digital root pattern of multiples of 9 myself and used it for quick solving of any problems involving 9. Later in college I rediscovered this pattern and obsessed over it for a few years... What I found was very interesting and fulfilling as it relates to quotients, products, and a prime sieve. Eventually I moved to a base18 system of counting to account for the parity of digital roots, (like when a number like 31 adds up to 4, this does not account for the oddness of 31, but 13 does.) It happens then that this pattern takes a much more intuitive form when we allow for digital root as well as parity. The little "hiccups" are practically cured.
    At this point I've only watched half this video, but I felt like answering your question about schooling and sharing my own journey with digital root maths.

    • @daviddawson1718
      @daviddawson1718 Před 2 lety +1

      I was, but not by a teacher. My best friend in school showed me. He is a cpa now, and the only reason I passed trig.

    • @overbuiltautomotive1299
      @overbuiltautomotive1299 Před 2 lety +1

      God bless numbers / patterns are in many things

    • @anonymous1burger
      @anonymous1burger Před 2 lety +2

      If you explained this on some casual Math blog I would read it.

    • @Frankenstein786
      @Frankenstein786 Před 2 lety +3

      Have you published any literature around base 18 mathematics? I'm intrigued by the concept and have been looking into it myself when time permits.

    • @H34L5
      @H34L5 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Frankenstein786 I'm only a hobby mathematician, so no I have not published.

  • @Neil-Aspinall
    @Neil-Aspinall Před 6 měsíci

    On behalf on everyone like me who tried hard to grasp what you're exposing us to, thank you.

  • @CrabbyO
    @CrabbyO Před měsícem

    "Does this all look familiar?"
    Yeah. The Mandelbrot set!😊❤🤓

  • @ryanhollist3950
    @ryanhollist3950 Před 2 lety +4

    For a long time I've wondered about the multiplication tests using digital sums when working with systems outside of base 10. You're the first to show a proof that my hypothesis was correct. Thank you so much for this.

    • @goncalopedro9054
      @goncalopedro9054 Před rokem

      I believe it works with any base system above base 10 by using [system_base - 1]
      First time I was introduced to this type of math was a different process to verify binary divisions manually. This is also the first time I see it being used with base 10...

  • @bryenico
    @bryenico Před 2 lety +6

    I didn't learn the "remainder rule" in school, but I discovered it on my own and it blew my little mind

  • @user-vf8yr3by4s
    @user-vf8yr3by4s Před 4 měsíci

    There's probably enough glass in my cupboard to build an undersea aquarium.

  • @goodoldrodg9043
    @goodoldrodg9043 Před 11 měsíci

    Taught math for 24 years. ALWAYS taught divisibility tests using sum of digits. So did all of the teachers I knew.

  • @Listener827
    @Listener827 Před rokem +49

    Math is the language used to understand everything that exists from subatomic particles to the universe itself! Your love of math is beautiful. Please continue sharing your enthusiasm for math and sharing your ability to break down items into their various pieces and parts, and of course, the fun you have in combining those things then in various ways.

    • @santaclase3410
      @santaclase3410 Před rokem

      🥰🥰🥰
      get well everybody

    • @DS-nv2ni
      @DS-nv2ni Před rokem +1

      Math is just an instrument, made by humans and has fallacy because the human mind cannot create anything that is perfect, we have no perfect knowledge and never we will, it's natural limit, therefore, mathematics is not better than history or philosophy when is about understanding life and the universe. Nowadays there is too much bias for math and STEM in general, a bit of brainwashing I would say. I'm happy I studied math and engineering many years ago when the academy wasn't a brainwashing institution yet.

    • @thetimeisland850
      @thetimeisland850 Před 10 měsíci +1

      um maths is a numeric philosophy that can only tell you anything about the model, rather than reality itself.

    • @arthurw1604
      @arthurw1604 Před 9 měsíci

      @@thetimeisland850 thats what you think

    • @thetimeisland850
      @thetimeisland850 Před 9 měsíci

      @@arthurw1604 thats what i philosophise! it is also technically true. Math can only prove its own internal models, never reality.

  • @John-vf5cc
    @John-vf5cc Před 2 lety +23

    I was not taught any of this math in school (as far as I can remember). This is so exciting! Thank you so much for your efforts and sharing them!

  • @petarjeftic6059
    @petarjeftic6059 Před rokem

    I found this video very interesting and for someone who is absolutely not a fan of math this is pretty fun. I am glad I picked this video about Tesla's 369 rather than any other because you explained everything in a such good way and showed that there's nothing magical about it. I haven't seen too much about it, but I beleve that people just like to make an elephant of a mouse for anything and that's why it's "a secret of the universe" and all that. It's always easier to just believe the bullshit from the internet rather than do your own research and think with your own head. I am happy that videos like this exist, nice and clear explanation and pure math, thank you so much! I will definetly check out more from your channel!

  • @uniquelybe
    @uniquelybe Před 4 měsíci +1

    Similarly, if you numerize (consecutive integers beginning with 1) the alphabet, for example, A to Z corresponds from 1 to 26 And from 26 to 1 so that every letter of a word is represented by two numbers (A = 1 and 26, R = 18 and 9, T = 20 and 7); take the digital root of each of sum of the word {2: digital root 1, digital root 2}; add the digital roots; then the final digital root of the sum will always be 9. 9 is the final digital root of any word.

  • @HORRIOR1
    @HORRIOR1 Před rokem +31

    First time I heard about Nicola Tesla thinking that 3 6 and 9 were key to the universe, the first thing that came to my mind was, "Wouldn't those numbers be completely different if we didn't use base 10?"

    • @frater_niram
      @frater_niram Před rokem +5

      This looks like its using base 9..?
      It does not use 0 therefore seemingly has no origin point.. Repeats itself

    • @Juxtaposed1Nmotion
      @Juxtaposed1Nmotion Před rokem +1

      ​@@frater_niram you didnt watch the whole video

    • @OldManShoutsAtClouds
      @OldManShoutsAtClouds Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yes of course, but regardless of the base system, these same patterns will emerge. Do you think the electromagnetic fields function only because we choose a base 10 system, or maybe, just maybe, a different mathematics system would still create a version of maxwell equations.

    • @KnakuanaRka
      @KnakuanaRka Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@OldManShoutsAtCloudsThe way mathematical equations like those in physics work are not dependent on the base used to display the numbers.

    • @sasagrcevic475
      @sasagrcevic475 Před 9 měsíci

      @@KnakuanaRka Math is a tool to measure reality, nothing more, nothing less. We give properties to objects and phenomena around us based on systems we invented in our heads to comprehend reality. Like we use words to describe situations and feeling we use math to describe our universe.

  • @eachday9538
    @eachday9538 Před 2 lety +19

    Tesla's 3-6-9 and Vortex Math is the key to CZcams views.

    • @Mathologer
      @Mathologer  Před 2 lety +5

      We'll see :)

    • @frechjo
      @frechjo Před 2 lety +1

      Well, I'll give the ritual sacrificial comment to the algorithm.
      Let's hope this video gets a fat, juicy, significant fraction of the views those other videos get, haha

  • @HojoSell
    @HojoSell Před 4 měsíci +2

    Those videos are excellent to see just before bedtime

    • @mmfpv4411
      @mmfpv4411 Před 3 měsíci

      they are but I also usually end up staying up late and trying stuff out 😆

  • @sandmanenters4187
    @sandmanenters4187 Před 3 měsíci

    These principles will be present in the Plasmoid Unification Model, I'm almost certain of it. That will be the new way we understand the universe, it is most assuredly something to look into. Great video.

  • @millwrightrick1
    @millwrightrick1 Před 2 lety +23

    I have had difficulty with arithmetic since I learned to count. As a result I looked for patterns in numbers to make life easier. I learned the adding digits to find out if a number was a multiple of 3 and that a multiple of 9 always has the digits add up to 9. In fact I used a similar trick to add up a series of numbers from 1 to n by noticing that 1+n is the same sum as 2+(n-1) and so on...... I learned later in life that Gauss figured out this trick at age 9. I figured it out at age 11.

    • @Dziaji
      @Dziaji Před 2 lety

      You figured out that adding 1 is the same as subtracting 1 and then adding 2? And you thought this “discovery” was a pattern that has value? At what age did you realize that all you did was prove that 1 + 1 = 2? I hope it wasn’t 10 seconds from [now].

    • @dustinbird2090
      @dustinbird2090 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Dziaji Awfully rude reply from you. This channel is focused on the study of mathematics and OP shared a happy memory of their childhood. Born in 1777, Gauss made several contributions to mathematics and OP shared a story where they made a similar mathematical discovery at a similarly young age as Gauss...
      From the anecdotes section on Gauss's wiki: "Another story has it that in primary school after the young Gauss misbehaved, his teacher, J.G. Büttner, gave him a task: add a list of integers in astigmatic progression; as the story is most often told, these were the numbers from 1 to 100. The young Gauss reputedly produced the correct answer within seconds, to the astonishment of his teacher and his assistant Martin Bartels. Gauss's presumed method was to realize that pairwise addition of terms from opposite ends of the list yielded identical intermediate sums: 1 + 100 = 101, 2 + 99 = 101, 3 + 98 = 101, and so on, for a total sum of 50 × 101 = 5050. However, the details of the story are at best uncertain..."
      Keep it real brother.

    • @Twisol
      @Twisol Před 2 lety +7

      Nobody tell Dziaji how much of mathematics is secretly adding zero or multiplying by one in clever ways...

    • @Dziaji
      @Dziaji Před 2 lety

      @@dustinbird2090 I was joking. No need to copy pasta the entire encyclopedia.

    • @Dziaji
      @Dziaji Před 2 lety

      @QuantumMan12 I understood what he was saying. That's a big r/whooosh for you my man.

  • @one2abuse
    @one2abuse Před 2 lety +3

    I just want to say, Thank you for existing and making this video. When my friends ask me why i'm shaking my head and giggleing to myself when they show me tesla vortex videos. I can just send them to this video instead of trying to explain these concepts to people who just don't get it.

  • @ThumbBandit04
    @ThumbBandit04 Před 4 měsíci

    The kid in me loves videos about stuff like the Tesla Vortex. It gives life mystery.
    Thankfully I was educated just enough to know a reason like this existed and someone smart could explain it.
    Unfortunately, not enough people get to the level of education to learn and understand that. I went to a top 100 public school and I barely did.

  • @mkjekyll
    @mkjekyll Před 9 měsíci

    Hi Burkard, Nice to have someone so ebullient concerning math. I have a question as to the representation here of a vortex as the definition in fluid dynamics requires at least 3 dimensions to define the flow revolving along an axis inclusive of a curl component. Can you extend this definition to an x,y,z coordinate system to model something akin to a waterspout rather than linear representations?

  • @irvingg2342
    @irvingg2342 Před 2 lety +7

    Had an incredibly rough week, this was precisely the pick me up I needed!

  • @davidconner-shover51
    @davidconner-shover51 Před 2 lety +47

    I first ran into this bit of math, and realized that it wasn't limited to the number nine whenever in electronics and computer science classes I had to deal with numbers in base systems other than 10. it appeared with the last numeral of the sequence; 9 in base 10, F in base 16, 7 in base 8, 255 in base 256 and so on, I realized that it wasn't that 9 was so magical, than that it was an effect of whatever integer numbering system was being used, the last numeral in that system held prevalence in exactly the same way. That being said, 3 being a prime, and 6 being the product of the first two primes does present some interesting components, regardless of the numbering system. I have found in electronics, pi and e have more prevalence, though usually expressed as fractions or products of such, especially in AC theory. Kinda hard to integrate either into integer number systems however, not being integral

    • @nikoladjuric9904
      @nikoladjuric9904 Před 2 lety

      If we write in Base 9k+1, then our number and its digital sum would have the same reminder when divided by 9.

    • @OliverKoenig
      @OliverKoenig Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, that was rather trivial for a mathematician (or serious student of mathematics), being a 1st semester question in a homework.

    • @nicholasleclerc1583
      @nicholasleclerc1583 Před 2 lety

      "not being integral" ? What do you mean by that ?

    • @surfsgv
      @surfsgv Před 2 lety

      @@nicholasleclerc1583 Not a whole number integer?

    • @infinidimensionalinfinitie5021
      @infinidimensionalinfinitie5021 Před 2 lety

      i think you are too dismissive of the nine phenomena, as it relates to vortexes, and torus dynamics of electricity. but that's ok. no worries, no hurries.

  • @user-bq4qs8lf2u
    @user-bq4qs8lf2u Před 2 měsíci

    The division is found in layout of musical scale on the same Enneagram, a Pythagoras scale, that is, where each next note is a result of division of previous string length by 2.

  • @sudoscientist255
    @sudoscientist255 Před rokem +1

    Love your content, I've learned so much from your videos. I always need to be able to imagine a problem before solving it and your diagrams, illustrations, & animations are incredible. You've also got the best shirt collections I've ever seen

  • @2.wahlmesser10
    @2.wahlmesser10 Před rokem +15

    The vortex is just the formula for calculating counter frequencies. It's really interesting what vibrations can do...

  • @thommunism1656
    @thommunism1656 Před 2 lety +10

    In school we learnt the divisibility trick for 9's but it wasn't until I did a university course on number theory that I realised that when dividing by 9, the sum of digits has the same remainder as the original number. This also holds for division by 3, as 9 is divisible by 3.

    • @Kryndon64
      @Kryndon64 Před 2 lety +3

      What does this even mean?

  • @Lynn.Panadero4242
    @Lynn.Panadero4242 Před 24 dny

    9:47 Yes, I was taught to continue to add the sum of the digits until I had a single digit. DR=9, then the original number was divisible by 9 and 3. It was also divisible by 6 if it was an even number. DR=3, the same was true except the original number was not divisible by 9. I was taught this in school and have taught this in school.
    The remainder part is new. I hadn’t heard that before, but it makes perfect sense.