The Pain of Waiting For Games
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Waiting kind of is not fun. Whether it be for Silksong, The Doors of Stone or any other property that has been on your radar for a bit too long, keeping that sense of anticipation and excitement is a tough thing to do. So, I wanted to examine that and look at some properties that I used to adore and eventually fell out of love with from such a long wait. Anyway, here's hoping to a 2022 release of Silksong, right? Right!?
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#silksong #hollowknight #waiting - Hry
so what are you waiting for right now?
Elden Ring
Im ashamed to say elder scrolls
Elden ring and the Ror2 dlc and, of course, silksong
Silksong ;_;
Deltarune
0:20 yooo Daily Silksong News! There's where I get my Silksong news!
Hey look, it's Hollow Knight Lore master!
Yooooo
Yep! Absolutely the best source for any Silksong News apart from mossbag of course.....
mOSSBAG????
@mossbag will you make a charm tier list?
Hey, buddy. Still waiting on the 2 hour analysis of Zote’s precepts
i finally got around to playing breath of the wild (four years late) and have now gained +1 suffering waiting for the sequel
Yakko i thought you don't like open world game 🤔 /s
Loved your video about open world games dude. Your videos are only getting better and I look forward to the next one.
Welcome to the club of suffering
@@kuliosw4815 /s bruh
I'll start it on Christmas. Can't wait to suffer!
"Did you wait for Silksong?"
"Yes."
"What did it cost?"
*"No cost too great."*
Only fans will understand
@@hollowknightenjoyer 🤨
@@SS-rf1ri bro didn't get past birthplace sequence 💀
@@hollowknightenjoyer 👎
@@hollowknightenjoyer "no mind to think, no voice to cry suffering, no cost too great, born of God and void you are the vessel what seals the can I say smth? I forgot the lines. You are the hollow knight"
“A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad” - Shigeru Miyamoto
Remember lads, the wait is worth it.
Yeah, that's why I avoid saying "I can't wait" for anything. I can wait if it's good/worth it, so we just need to let the devs make it good.
Most delayed games are bad too though, like Cyberpunk, No Man's Sky, Mighty Number 9 or any other terrible games that were delayed a billion times.
@@davidbronstein2040 lmao obviously there are exceptions to the quote. Not all delayed game are good, just like not all rushed games are bad. And as delayed as Cyberpunk was, I would still consider it to be rushed due to it being released with bugs and problems, clearly not something the developers intended.
@@davidbronstein2040 No Man's Sky is amazing game rn, they actually did what they promised and even more
Most delayed games are bad though. Delays are evidence of poor management and troubles in development.
Your title and thumbnail spoke to me in a way I didn’t think was possible
moss and Relyea. Dang the heavyweights came out for this one
@@Cbrunning849 you don’t search Silksong and filter the videos for the new daily uploads??
Great video by the way. I don’t think I could let Silksong get sour for me. I’m just expecting the game to be different from anything I’m expecting which should help
I think this comment spoke to me in a way I didnt think was possible
Why do show on the maps where to buy the maps?
Relyea thanks for the pure vessel tips 😎👍
I was SO WORRIED about the angelinas. Thank god you took them off the oven
Dude, spoiler..!
@@hakonmarcus omg im so sorry... I was more exited than when bruce willis was dead at the end of sixth sense.
@@colugreen hope your pants are okay
YES! Same man
OH THANK GOD
This video is 2 years old, with a silksong thumbnail. And no we still haven't got silksong
A while ago I stopped saying "I can't wait for !" and started saying "I'm looking forward to ." Learning to appreciate the feeling of anticipation is better for me than wishing time would pass faster.
thank you for the advice!! really gonna need it whilst waiting for silksong
I agree bro, I am also waiting for
@@noodles4867 i will also try to apply this
When you wait for a new book for so long that when it's finally come out, you have to start reading the first book all over again because you've forgotten most of its story.
That is kind of the best part about it though.
I feel this pain
i like that part though. same thing with shows and movies too. it's so fun revisiting something to get excited for the next part
I listen to the king killer chronicles every two or three years. They are masterpieces, even if it’s never finished. This is one I have turned to indifference to.
Yeah but that actually won’t really be a problem to play hollow knight again and again and again for me :)
He was talking about the excitement dying and I was like, "Yeah I can see that with a lot of people, but generally games I get excited about I stay excited about." and then he showed the Elder Scrolls 6 teaser and I cried
:(
Yeah, I remember how exciting the idea of an elder scrolls 6 was to me, spent so many hours learning about Tamriel, its wars, its characters,… now it’s been so long, we still don’t know exactly when the game might be out and to be honest I’m just not interested anymore (the disappointments of Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 didn’t help either).
Do you think any studio let alone 2021 Bethesda could raise the bar and create something that stands out from Skyrim?
@@heronoverdose Skyrim is terrible so yeah
@@ellie8272 not by the standard of millions
I appreciate the fact that when you talked about "a good wait", you showed a clip from the beginning of Portal 2's long nap. It's those kind of small edits that make me appreciate the quality of your videos both in commentary and editing.
I literally said "oh hell yeah Portal 2!" out loud during that part
That good wait in portal 2 however was a couple million years atleast :)
nice name, definetly not in a game that has waited for 5 years for a new update
@@scientificthesis 50k
I can't say enough how much I love that game ! I discovered it in 2017 and it is probably my best video game experience ever.
"Time dissipates enthusiasm." is another good quote to match Patrick Rothfuss' phrase. Anticipation has a critical breakpoint where it no longer excites a person, and starts to frustrate them.
Patrick Rothfuss would know, making his fans wait 10 years for the third novel in his series...
@@BootyCrusader Nothing kills inspiration more than the anxiety of knowing people are waiting for something perfect... I feel bad for him, some people really don't get that authors and other creatives are just people, we're not machines....
@@Yohannai he should come talk to me. I hated The Name of the Wind, refuse to read the second book and think the world is better off without the third. No pressure here.
@@shireads2954 Then I think you're not his target audience. Neither am I, seeing as I can't muster any curiosity about the books and so have never bothered trying to read them, so obviously neither of us are being the stressors here.
But I've seen a lot of very loud voices being annoyed at waiting for another book and I imagine the author has seen a thousand more aimed directly at him. When enthusiasm sours into frustration it must freaking suck to be at the receiving end.
@@Yohannai weirdly enough, I do think I'm the audience he was going for because I tend to love books in this genre with similar premises, which is why I was so keen to read it in the first place. I just hated his execution. I couldn't stop rolling my eyes. It just wasn't good storytelling to me. At no point was I ever worried about the protagonist because he was such a cringy Gary Stew. Even when things when badly for him, it was painfully obvious there would be some deus ex machina that would bring him out on top. Ugh. Sorry to rant, but 8 years later I'm still mad about how thoroughly my expectations were not met.
You never seen the Silksong pain until you see their Discord server whenever Nintendo makes any type of announcement.
The sheer quantity of 'knight wearing clown wig' screenshots that get passed around,,,,,
😭😭😭🤡
that was exactly one month ago actually
The composer of hollow knight is so good that even just the two samples he posted of the stuff he's working on for silksong completely revitalized my soul.
Christopher Larkin is a genius.
@@AvereeChaloupka i dont believe hes hooman
Laces theme is so gooood
I have listened to the full hk and gods and nightmares ost so many times on repeat
Both songs have millions of views before the game is even out lol. I know popularity definitely isn't always the best way to judge quality, but in this instance it rings true.
it makes me really sad that im starting to forget about silksong more and more, ocasionally reminding myself when checking out my steam wishlist
although i know when i finally get to play it, it will be one of my favorite games, 100%
It can still be a bad game tho, I recommend not get overhyped and force yourself to love that game. Probably little problems will become very big ones if you think it must to be PERFECT
@@Tardu00 It isn't bad to get excited for games, and especially for a sequel to one of the best games of the 2010s. It's incredibly unlikely the game will be bad so I don't think it's bad to expect greatness from it.
Its probably canceled by now
@@markxv2267The release is literally confirmed to happen in 2023..
@@doggie5791well this aged poorly
I think a part of the "souring" comes from previous disappointment. It's not just being impatient, or having expectations, it's also knowing that the thing might _never_ happen. Sometimes your favorite show goes a year between seasons (or episodes, thanks Milo Murphy's Law), and other times it ends on a cliffhanger (Thanks, Scorpion) with the promise of another season next month... 6 months from now... nine months... 1 year... we haven't cancelled it yet... keep waiting. Besides, for various reasons, the longer a project takes, the less likely it is to get finished.
It's a great feeling when you discover an already completed series you like and you don't have to wait years for the next installment
Any recommendations?
@@oli_uy Play Yakuza. They are all in the game pass. A great surprise!
@@leonardoconti8875 Already did, great series indeed! I even added Judgement to my backlog!
Me with Kingdom Hearts.
Happened to me with the last of us, played it then TLOU2 was gonna be released the month after hahaha unfortunately u know the rest
This video is very timely, considering ConcernedApe just announced a spiritual sequel to Stardew Valley called "Haunted Chocolatier"... with no release date in sight. PAIN
Honestly though it can't be THAT long right? It's basically the same engine as Stardew with improvements.
@@halcyonacoustic7366 True! But it depends on so many little things as:
* Will he still make it alone
* How much he wants it to be different
* Is that a single active project for him
* Will he became depressed and needed rest
This is so real, moments after the trailer finished the horror set in realizing that we're not gonna know when this comes out. Punch to the gut!!
@@halcyonacoustic7366 Welcome to Silksong lol
@@halcyonacoustic7366 it took 9 years for stardew valley to be where it is today, dude likes to put a lot of love passion and time into his games & it shows deeply.
deltarune chapter 2 was like a breath of fresh air after waiting for 3 years, i finished the game in one sitting. but now its kinda sad now ill have to wait 2-3 years for the next 3 chapters but at least since theres 3 chapters coming out all at once ill have a lot of content
At least we get to enjoy the game over and over again while waiting.
Two years later, elden ring and TotK have already released and still, we wait for Silksong
Silksong has been my most anticipated game for nearly 3 years. The long wait actually makes me more excited for it. I have complete faith in Team Cherry, and I’m so looking forward to all of the love, care, and extra content they’re putting into this game.
I force myself to forget its coming so when it does I am less like “but I waited 7 years”
All the Kirby shit and other games coming next year is sort of distracting me. But I still feel that subtle silk song pain.
Apparently they are just having to many good ideas and developing it
It's gonna be 150 gigs by they finish
Wich is good
@@Jester4460 wait did they say this officially? If so holly molly silksong is going to take me a long time to finish to 100% and thats fine with me!
Imagine if it’s bad
There's a time period when waiting for a game that I like to call "waiting to wait for it". It is essentially the time between the reveal of a game and its release date being announced. I find that waiting to get hype for a game until its release date has been announced helps keep in check any self-made expectations, and keeps yourself from being disappointed by the game you get when it releases. I'm currently doing this with a lot of games, Risk of Rain 2's dlc being the one foremost in my mind. I recommend trying it out.
I tend to conciously forget about games until the Devs start the full ad campaign. I just cant wait for a game for 4 years between first teaser and release, so I try to forget until it reaches a timeframe I can endure.
Same. It's what I'm doing right now for Breath of the Wild 2. I'm also not watching any fan made theory/trailer analysis/reviews until after I've played it. I've learned from film critic channels that I'll probably enjoy it if I see it for myself uninfluenced by another's expectations.
I literally forgot about ror2 DLC 1st quater 2022 and its my favourite game but I've been waiting for minecraft caves and cliffs since the nether update cause of ibxtoycats videos
I agree, be happy it was announced then put it in the back of your mind until it's close to release date, no point in languishing for years.
Huh. Someone put it into words … thanks, I guess. Now I have a name for what I do. Waiting to wait
2 years later, youtube has recommended this video to me again.
We're still waiting.
I’ve recently realized that I often get more joy out of the waiting for something, than I do from when it actually happens. I will spend hours contemplating, and analyzing an important decision before acting on it, and the part I enjoy the most is the anticipation because I can drag it out as long as I like. But once the decision is made, the time to enjoy it is finite and fleeting.
More like the pain of waiting for more Razbuten videos
Better than waiting for Tim Rogers videos lmao
To get life advice and a tease about silksong?
Nah
Hollow Knight is special. After playing Metroid Dread, loving it, 100%ing it, I again realized just how special Hollow Knight truly is. I’m glad Team Cherry is taking the route they see fit for this new game. No release date pushbacks. No delays announced. Just making the game until it’s ready. I may drift further from the game as time passes, but replaying it, remembering it, brings me right back like I never left. So I will return when Silksong comes out. I will not go seeking out every Silksong video or messaging people on social media about release dates, because they truly made something special and I believe they can do it again, they just need to do it their way. Love you Team Cherry.
I had a similar reaction as you in your first sentence in a totally different genre. I'm now playing the original Breath of Fire (yeah, I like old turn-based RPGs) and despite loving it, it made me finally value what a damn masterpiece Golden Sun (especially The Lost Age) is.
Playing 2D metroids after HK made me really appreciate how solid their atmosphere, foundation and sense of progression was
@@twincherries6698 I think the tangible sense of progression is the biggest draw of the series.
100% agree with you. No communication is sometimes the best communication because it avoids yourself to say bullshit. Team Cherry is doing the right thing, and I'll buy Silksong day one without a doubt
"The Great Ace Attorney" is a game in the Ace Attorney franchise that was announced years ago and thanks to the nature of the series in the west and how localisation was, a lot of people wrote it off. I however, was unbelievably hyped for the game despite knowing full well how small the chances were of it ever coming to the west. The trailers that came out for it were simply so unbelievably well put together that I simply didn't allow myself to give up hope on it. Many people had eventually created a fan translation and enjoyed that instead, but I wanted it in my hands to play myself. It felt silly, but also to me, felt like the right thing to do for myself as a fan of the series.
Of course, like any human, I eventually stopped thinking about it and even a sequel to it was announced with equal minimal chances at a western release, pretty much confirming to me that it wouldn't happen...
Even so, I refrained from spoiling anything about it to myself other than a few sound tracks which were already known to me thanks to the trailers they were in already, but with at least "Spirit of Justice" (Ace Attorney 6) being a new game that western fans could still enjoy, I stayed a solid fan and went about with other things.
Lo and behold, after nearly 7 years of waiting since its initial announcement, "The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles", a game which contained BOTH previously unreleased, unlocalised games in one package, was announced and soon then released for the west, containing both options for english and japanese voices. It was one of the happiest moments in my life. A game that quite honestly didn't feel like it SHOULD have existed in my hands is finally mine. Being a western Ace Attorney fan practically meant being conditioned to the nature of the series and what it's history of localisation meant, but somehow they did it. They knew fans still wanted it over here, and they delivered.
"Don't get married to what's in your head, you're never gonna get exactly what you imagine anyways, and sometimes other people can bring something to a project that you never could've thought of."
Stephan Krosecz, 'Pirates of the Caribbean - Accidentally Genius' video, 7:45
Concerned Ape recently announced a new game in production, and that was it for me.
But this time, Im going in as open-minded as I can be. Whatever it is, I hope I enjoy it.
Plot twist, this video was paid for by Team Cherry to help placate the masses to buy them more time.
Seriously though, I just recently got into Hollow Knight earlier this year on and off. I'm back into it and I almost forgot how much I love it. I still have a ways to go to complete but at least I don't have to wait as long as others have for Silksong.
In fact some folk are waiting for Silksong that haven't even played Hollow knight or even liked it that much! 🤷♂️
Yeah, I started back last November. Nice to see I'm not the only newcomer
Song
"Unless it still isn't out by then..."
You just had to voice my worst fear, didn't you?
yeah that sentence was a big oof hahaha
still waiting for silksong 💀
The path of pain was actually just preparing us for waiting for silksong.
I used to wait for games when I was younger because you tend to stick to series that you have an attachment to and they become your most hyped games. But over time, after playing many, many more games, I tend to occupy myself with different ones instead of waiting in anticipation for one big game every year or so, and I think this is a good way to deal with it for impatient people, especially if you don't want to be let down by huge expectations.
There is also the fact that you might not have the monetary access to games when you where younger, I remember saving up my weekly lunch money allowance and spending it on xbox arcade games, this is how I played games like bastion and state of decay.
Yeah when I was younger I could only afford to buy a new game every couple of months, so I had a lot more freedom to sit around and get excited about games that were in development. Now I have a 40+ game Steam backlog, I can't even keep up with playing all the games I already own let alone think about games that haven't even come out yet
rn im like, anticipating silksongs release, and ive just realized that most of my hype and anticipation is going towards waiting for the release of the release date, not for how i think the game will be. in fact, i dont ever really think about how games will be like if im waiting for them, i just think about when theyll release and how i will get said game.
I'm the absolute opposite. Having access to a zillion games made me appreciate them less. So I play very few games but I am happy to be hyped in anticipation and play the very few select games I know will tickle the fun feeling when playing. (I am a Zelda fan and so far have not been let down so I may be lucky in that sense, not all franchises are able to sustain themselves long term)
I don’t like a certain amount of what Dunkey says, but he made a good point about people getting antsy and pushy about people wanting to buy/play new games. Basically, I recommend playing some old and more classic games instead just waiting, being impatient for and/or paying a bunch for new games.
"I don't like a certain amount of what Dunkey says"
Heresy!
Couldnt have said it better.
forreal my backlog is already fucking insane I wish every new game coming out would get delayed an extra year so I could catch up with what I already have.
You know what, that's a great idea. Hey Nintendo, hand me a copy of Ocarina of Time!
Oh, you don't want me to have a copy? Ok...
No one “just waits”. I doubt anyone just sits there, doing absolutely nothing because they’re waiting.
well boys, silksong actually exist, and is coming day one on gamepass, it's getting released within 1 year.
Well this dident age well
You know what I'd like to experience some day?
A game being announced and it's release being right around the corner. That'd blow my mind, honestly.
Like, GTA 6 video dropping now and then at the end revealing the release date is next month.
Or can you imagine how the internet would explode if they dropped a release trailer now and it ended to the words; "OUT NOW" lol.
Sure, that little heads up would likely not produce the amounts of profits they want (then again... it just might for a title big enough), but.. still, it would be nothing short of mindblowing to a gamer.
But the bottom line; I kiiinda have grown to dislike when devs announce a game and then we wait for who-knows-how-many-years. I see barely any benefit from wait times that long. It hasn't really worked well recently for devs/publishers either, with them having to promise something to appease the anxiously squirming crowds, then delaying, angering people, then rushing to release and delivering a turd.
For me though, a release date that is missed is much worse than not knowing a release date. Like for example, now I'm waiting for Little Devil Inside and that missed it's release date and hasn't given any info. But.. I kinda prefer them to not give out info, if they don't have anything certain to promise about the game's release.
It's wait is currently on hold. I'm not feeling much hype, I'm not feeling resentment, I just take a little glance every now and then and then return to do other stuff. For example, I'll much rather just idle without a date for 5 months and then hear it'll release in a month, than now hear that it releases in 6 months. Knowing I'll have to wait for 6 months feels significantly longer than just being in a state of not having it on my mind constantly and then having to wait 1 conscious month.
Though, seems I'm alone on that, as many people are really hoping for any info about that game.
That's happened a couple times! I believe Fallout 4 was announced just a couple months before release (yes, it turned out to be a flawed game, but I was hyped for it at the time) And then in the realm of table-top games, I've seen them announced just a month before release.
Half life alyx
I can attest to the dangers of overhyping. You think of something so much and you get so excited for it, but its usually not what you are expecting and its a truly crushing feeling.
People ask me sometime when I think Silksong might be released, and I always tell them that I really try to not predict the date anymore, or set myself any expectations. In 2019 I thought it would be released in late 2019, in late 2019 I thought early 2020, then I thought late 2020 and so on and it's just a pattern we set ourselves that never ends.
It's a running gag in the HK community that every time a new Nintendo Direct or and Indie World is being announced, we already prepare ourselves for the worst and spam clown/copium memes, and looking back at 2019 times, if you were to predict that Silksong would still be in development at the start of 2022, people would call you a huge pessimist and stuff.
So in short, yea I can absolutely agree with you to not set ourselves expectations since it can just make us more upset when the devs don't meet the expectations the fans made.
Mhm
looking back man i really had a good grasp in how silksong was gonna take so long to come out, i wish i wasnt such a dick about it.
As a game dev... it really hurts when my game takes years to be completed. Its tough for everyone. Especially in croudfunding
Talking about the sequel to one of my favourite games AND quoting my favourite novel in one video - instant thumbs up! Thanks for making the wait a bit more bearable :)
This video released at the same time as the daily silk song updates. Brilliant.
What?
@@santiagovare do not fall for this deception friends
@@timesup4200 what is he lying?
Im not much of a hollow night guy
@@CMT_Crabbles I don’t think so…
There is a “daily silksong news” channel
Idk what the deception is supposed to be
That was the best sponsorship transition I've seen in a long time. Because it wasn't just surprise wordplay like "--speaking of listening, this video is sponsored by Audible" or whatever; it was actual set up and payoff, and even kind of tied in to the theme of the video with patience.
Anyways, I'm really hyped for Billie Bust Up, Hyperbolica, and Hazbin Hotel.
Agreed on the sponsorship thing. I've gotten pretty good at spotting where creators start the segue into an ad, but this one was 100% seamless. He even replicated the way in which timers on my phone will sometimes just not go off until after they're supposed to, and I remember to check them manually :P
Only thing that could have made it more perfect would be if the ad started exactly 10 min after the original bit
What does one need to watch Hazbin?
I've been waiting for Doors of Stone for quite some time by now, and while I agree with the notion that a creator doesn't owe anything to his fans, once you announce you will be releasing a trilogy there is an implicit promise that a third book will come out, that's why I think a lot of people harbor so much resentment for the man.
He better take is time and make it a good ending to the trilogy imo
I’m glad I follow CZcamsrs and creators who infrequently post. It really gave me patience growing up. I would see a post made by them and get excited again. Or maybe I can leave it and binge their works after a while. It doesn’t mean I don’t get excited by things and become extremely disappointed when it doesn’t work out but time really tempers me and makes me appreciate other pieces in life.
People waiting for Elder Scrolls VI be like : "I've been in this fight since I was 8 years old!"
Bethesda: "WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY SKYRIM ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR?!"
Painfully accurate. I was waiting for a ES6 comment
Pikmin fans: *coughs*
Um kinda yeah since I was 9 been waiting for this shit
I can't believe people are hyping ESVI in the same universe where Skyrim, Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 released... you guys know it's a Bethesda game, right? You'll be lucky if this one doesn't brick your computer.
I remember hearing the rumblings of a sequel to Metroid Fusion in 2008 and I remember being extremely excited for it, turns out those rumblings had already come up before and died down and over the next 13 years I had basically convinced myself that the last game I would ever get out of one of metroid series was Other M. Metroid Dread's announcement this summer completely blindsided me in the best way possible and I instantly got maybe more excited than I've ever been for a game and after a month sitting on it it's probably my favorite game to have been released since Nier Automata in 2017. I don't think there's any possible way that if it had come out in 2011 instead of Other M I would care about it so strongly, but having waited so long for it combined with it following up a particularly.... *controversial* game makes it all the sweeter that it came out and that it kicks ass
I just came back here to say that I've been subscribed to your channel for perhaps more than a year now (really don't remember when I found you), and even though CZcams don't always recommend your videos, and you get kinda suppressed by all my other subscriptions, your channel is one of my favorite channels, I can say it's probably on my top 5.
I love your work and I find myself now and then watching old videos of yours since you don't post that often hehehe.
Love you bro, love your content, don't ever feel the need to rush your content just to stay on the CZcams's algorithm. ❤️
Just wanted to chime in and say how much I enjoy your work. :)
Just wanted to chime in and say how much i enjoy both of your works
I'll chime in too!
So will I!
Your videos are amazing man
A friend of mine introduced me to The Kingkiller Chronicles at a birthday party, when he bought me the first two books. He called them the best fantasy he'd ever read, and at the time, I'd have agreed with him.
Now, having read more and learned more about myself, I know what my favorite fantasy book is. But Name of the Wind and Wise Man's Fear will always hold a special place in my heart.
My friend died a few years ago. He never got the chance to read Doors of Stone. Whether or not it's as good as the first two, whether or not it's everything the fans want it to be, I'm still looking forward to reading it. For his sake, as well as my own.
For everything there is a season...but I hope there's an afterlife with all the books that didn't get published yet in life.
Now, what *is* your favorite fantasy book? You teased that you know and I expect a follow up ;). It's Lord of the Rings for me, but The Neverending Story comes close. I haven't read NotW yet, but I'm willing to try it without book 3 announced - it sounds like it's worth rereading anyway.
@@MagusMarquillin thank you for your kind words. I didn't mean to sound quite so ominous in my original comment 😅. My favorite fantasy novel is The Goblin Emperor, by Sarah Monette; it does everything I wanted from the premise and then some. It's also one of the few books that I've not only read more than one, but actually bought to add to my collection.
@@nathancarter8239 I think I've heard of it, but the only Goblin Emperor I see is by Katherine Addison. Sarah Monette appears to do fantasy/horror largely and has some good ratings. Did you maybe conflate two books so they could share the #1 spot? :)
This was very intriguing and you genuinely just changed the way I think about this topic. Really enjoyed this video, I haven't seen any of your videos before or heard of you and was recommended this video, probably because of the amount of HK content I've watched. But I'm now subscribed can't wait to see more videos from you.
It HAS been a 4 and a half (atleast) year wait now. RELEASE SILKSONG, the Reddit is literally going insane
This has happened to me with Elder Scrolls 6. Skyrim was a huge part of my life for many years, but on top of Bethesda's recent fall from grace the lack of any tangible information about the next game in the series I love has left me looking for other things to place my passion into.
Honestly I really don't trust bethesda to top Skyrim with Elder Scrolls 6. And that is purely because I don't trust them to make a game as moddable as skyrim is.
ooor, you could play morrowind
Just looking forward to Skyblivion and Obsidian's Avowed
I say this having completed Skyrim fully: Skyrim is a bad game, and I have very little faith in Bethesda as a developer. I don't think they've made a good game.
I use to love Skyrim and could play it all day but I think like Razbuten said I lost interest...I've tried going back, but if feels so empty and not nearly the same game I poured at least 100h into (+ dlc)
I think you failed to mention that silksong had a huge gameplay trailer on announcement and a playable e3 demo just a few months later.
This is the main reason people thought it's gonna be soon, which made if more painful.
I have a theory that the game’s scope kept inflating long after Team Cherry were sure they’d stop.
Also that game will probably get a release day announcement like 5 days before it comes out.
I'm weird, you could show me gameplay fotage containing 90% of the game's content and not showing me a date and I won't care despite hk being my favorite game, I've reached the zen of waiting
@@Personell101 I think Leth confirmed that the first thing happened
@@Personell101 yeah, they said that they had some kind of “controlled feature creep” with the first game. Something tells me the scope creep isn’t so controlled anymore
I honestly think silksong will live up to the expectations no matter what.
I’m currently waiting a few million years for the full release of a vr early access fighting game called blade and sorcery
This is so true this applies to basically everything not just games, it's kinda like The Promised Neverland season 2, everyone in the fandom was so hyped including myself for season 2 since as a manga reader, I am very excited to see the next story arc in motion, and I wanna see these characters to debut the anime, the whole fandom waited for 2 years and we were very disappointed with how it turned out, but atleast there are still some fans that actually enjoyed it, but this shows how painful waiting is when u also hyped it up, you will be either disappointed or very happy
This video would age perfectly if Silksong gets a trailer tomorrow and drops straight away
I am tempting fate.
silksong wont be coming out this year, if the leak is to be believed the release date is potentially feb 2022
@@razbuten if it works then say that a Zelda 2 remake is coming soon
No matter how high or low I try to make my expectations, I have no doubt the next chapters of Deltarune will be worth the wait. Toby Fox has made something truly special so far.
Absolutely. I'm very VERY glad I started with chapter 2 already out. That 3 year wait sounds borderline unbearable for the amount of content we got
@@ellie8272 it was
@@ellie8272 Chapter 2 was amazing but yeah, the well dried up pretty quickly and there was yet another cliff hanger ending... I hope chapters 3-5 don't take that long per chapter....
@@InsanePigeon 3-5 are releasing together p sure
@@ellie8272 yeah I know, I just hope that 3 chapters isn't a 9 year wait like 1 chapter was a 3 year wait. (though to be fair toby was injured and worked on a lot of the plot past chapter 2 iirc)
"Well, it has only been 2.5 years since Silksong was announced ... for many it has felt like a 4.5 year wait"
Now that it has been over 4 years since Silksong was announced, there are still those that hold on to their anticipation for a release date.
I saw this video ages ago but completely forgot to say how much I love your thumbnail for this video. Great job and looking forward to watching more of your content!
I love the use of the Kingkiller quote from the Name of the Wind, way too accurate (and ironic, considering the wait for book 3).
It never ceases to amaze me that Rothfuss could write that line, and then do this to his people.
I started reading the name of the wind, loved it, found out about the current lack of an ending and put it down. The book seems amazing, but I'm not touching it until the story is finished
@@savage4242 I'd personally say it's worth it to read what's already out, but that's up to you.
@@starman2995 agreed, the book and sequel are incredible, still my favorite book despite lacking the third book in the supposed trilogy
I recently witnessed expectations take over someone's feelings on a game. My friends and I played Metroid Dread and loved it, but some of them they had a lot of criticisms about things that they felt define Metroid. My cousin and I who played all the older games in the lead up to Dread were way happier with what we got. I definitely think that my cousin and I were far more open minded, since we didn't let our minds run wild and spent more time playing games rather than thinking about them.
Same. I didn't really care about Dread when it was announced(I'm more of a Prime guy), but now that I'm watching a letsplay of it, I'm very impressed. It's a big improvement over Samus Returns, you can tell Mercury Steam was really confident with this one.
The good news is most people I've seen play Dread seem to love it. It undoubtedly has a lot of flaws, and things that could have been done better, but with how popular the game is, I don't doubt Metroid 6 is coming
This is why I'm most afraid of how people will react to silksong. Alot of people are expecting silksong to not only be on par with or even better hollow knight, but also manage to rekindle the same magic that the first game did. The flaw with an experience is that you can only truly experience it once, and attempting to experience it again in Hope's of rekindling that same joy will lead to disappointment. I have no doubt silksong will be great, but I fear it will be nitpicked to death because some fans were expecting something virtually impossible.
5:00 man, I can't see that logo without thinking about how excited Ettika was for it, and knowing that he'll never get to see the finished game.
I watch this video every time I think about silksong
"when excitement becomes indifference"
*THE WINDS OF WINTER has entered the chat*
I only picked up the series after I watched Game of Thrones about 3-4 years ago, and I am hoping to make it to that stage soon. Hopelessly waiting for it is torture T-T. And then to hear that there might be a 7th! I think I might just die
I respect Martin and his right to pursue whatever other project or hobbies makes him happy, but God I'd still love to see ASOIAF properly end someday.
I liked ASOIF, but I was in elementary school when the first book came out and I'm now old enough to have a child in high school with the 6th book not even having a release date. GRRM has every right to do whatever he wants with the property, but I've lost all interest in it.
Thank you for this video. I’m a developer for a popular, unreleased game mod that was announced many months ago, and I’ve often gotten worried about people getting too excited for what me and my team have to offer. That is taking too long means we’ll end up having to satisfy ever-increasing expectations the longer development goes on for. This video gives me some hope for us, that we might still have time before most people’s expectations surpass our ability to satisfy them.
Thanks for setting a 10 minute timer on my phone lol
The only thing about loosing your excitement over something, is that it is possible to get excited or fall in love with it all over again
Anyone who reads fantasy is used to it, thanks to two honorable gentlemen whose names shall remain unmentioned.
Fortunately there are other fantasy writers, who give those unmentioned authors a run.
@@lornmalvo2541 Brandon Sanderson is indeed awesome
@@milospollonia1121 exactly :D I would also mention Joe Abercrombie as someone with strong work ethics.
@@lornmalvo2541 currently listening to The Trouble With Peace, and oh god it's good
@@milospollonia1121 ooooh, you are going to like it. I envy you. The Wisdom Of Crowds is almost better too.
Totally felt that with the rebuild of Evangelion movies. When the fourth one came just recently, I long forgotten how excited I was for the next one to come, and didn't care anymore. Which is to say when I finally watched I remembered that feeling of excitement and why I love so much the series.
You put very articulately into words that feeling I had and didn't quite know how to explain, great job!
"Although it has only been a 2 and a half year wait, it sometimes feels like it's been a 4 and a half year wait, which is kinda a long time", he said 2 years ago.
dude, i'm never waiting for you to release a video, but when you do, gosh the joy
Shout out to everyone who waited for Metroid: Dread since it was first rumored.
It's been a long four months of avoiding spoilers since E3.
@@dragonmaster1500 facts man, especially because I wasn’t able to buy it day one 0_0
Seriously been waiting for that one for YEARS it might have been a decade at this point.
I agree.
However, I waited so long they broke my heart. I don’t know if I can’t trust. Fusion, Zero, and Returns were all disappointments to me. I enjoyed them fine. But not $60 fine.
@@lh9591 I can understand fusion and samus returns but zero mission? Why that?
I just started to play Kingdom Hearts 3. I used to play every new title at release, was a fan from the very moment the Mickey Mouse magazine had stickers for the first game, and then... when Kingdom Hearts 3 came out, it was already way past my "sweet spot". I remained so indifferent about it that it has been gathering dust on my shelf since it released. Finally, today, I picked it up and started it, and I'm greatly enjoying the experience. I think it's for the better. I think back on how disappinted I was with Final Fantasy 15, which released in the middle of a personal hype high, and how much that brought my experience down. That's not gonna happen with Kingdom Hearts 3, because I have no expectations from it - besides to remind me of my childhood - and that already is happening.
I dont think is any saving kh at this point the lore is already messy and they are adding more messy plot devises? Just my opinion but kh3 really killed it for me, the end of the base game is like buy the dlc the ending lol and then the dlc is like namuras childish outcry for a project he messed up already. Like I sed just my opinion if you enjoy it you enjoy it :)
I had a similar experience to AC Valhalla. The bugs in the game I experienced didn't help it either, bu I initially thought the game was boring and not as good as Origins or Odyssey story wise. It just didn't grab me or instill that sense of urgency as the series previous installments. The world looked like a muddy pallet of either whites and grays (Norway) or the same dark greens and gray stone (England). After putting it down for about 5 months or so though, I am having more fun with it and enjoying the slow burn of the story. Glad I put it down and came back once my initial hype was over.
I actually saw the title and went damn, wonder what pretentious weird take this is going to be, but was actually very pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed your video. There's a beauty in waiting and hearing someone else put what I've been feeling lately into words felt good.
I’m very curious about this concept of waiting. I never really thought about it in depth but I’m curious if this will happen with the upcoming Avatar movies.
*This is just a long roundabout way of saying, "Patience will make you appreciate any gifts, rewards or struggles much more"*
The older I get, the less attachment I get towards this and I've always enjoyed a story that knows how to wrap up the conclusion than having an open ended potential for a sequel. Just enjoy what's out there, there are way too many that'll keep you busy until more stuff comes out
I'm glad you talked about expectations for a moment.
This honestly is the one thing I try to curb the moment I get excited about something. Excitement is A LOT of fun, but the moment you are creating expectations based on fiction you created yourself you often feel burned once the game releases.
The amount of times that the things I would want in a certain franchise aren't added is way too high and destroys fun way to easily, so better to curb then hate the product that gets released.
I found this channel yesterday and it is already one of my favorite English-speaking youtube channels. Keep it going :D
Hears "fifteen dollar title" and thinks, "That don't sound right."
Then I remember I live in Canada and y'all got bigger dollars down there.
It goes on sale for 15 dollars in Canada pretty often
Yeah their $15 is our $20-30 😆
Canadians are like vegans, huh? Don't worry, they'll tell you..
@@mydogeatspuke Is this bait..?
@@sluttyMapleSyrup is an accurate representation considered "bait?" I don't speak internet.
This month actually, one of the longest games I've personally been waiting for comes out (SMT 5) and once a game starts really getting close is both exciting and like an itch you can't quite scratch yet. Definitely a weird thing overall.
oh so you're a man of culture I see
I knew I’d see someone bring up SMT 5!
Elder scrolls 6, Half life 3, Botw 2, Metriod Prime 4, Bayonetta 3, Mario Galaxy 3, Mariokart 10, fallout 5, Gta 6, Mass Effect 4. These are all games I have been impatintley waiting for years now.
This video is very accurate.
I never hype myself up too much about things. I do like to think about what they could do but I always keep in mind that, it’s just a thought and possibility. It may not be an actual thing.
I still look forward to SilkSong but I don’t think about it too much anymore.
Usually if I lose hype in some manner on a game that hasn’t been shown in some time, I usually regain said hype once it is shown again.
That’s just how I am anyway
"A kickstarter is not a guarantee that the game will come out" *sighs in miserable pile of American Mcgee's Alice: Asylum*
...don't give me PTSD
So many great games coming out next year, can't wait
Examples?
Tiny Tina's wonderland. Botw2. Silk song (hopefully) just to name a few
@@apairofglasses775 botw2, horizon 2, stray, elden ring...
God of war
Thanks for answering but i don't really like those games expect botw2 but at least we will get 3 chapters of deltarune at once
It hilarious that this is 10 months old and we are still waiting for silksong
The waiting game is the reason why im so happy Dead Cells is no longer getting updates. The final castlevania dlc is more than enough. Im so happy with it.
It's a self-inflicting pain. I haven't even watched the video, but I have at least 7 games I want to play that already exist and I find no need to follow the news for incoming games. For any one of you reading this, I can guarantee there exist, easily, 20 games you'd love playing right now that you haven't yet. You only crave for upcoming games because you pay attention to marketing announcements. Ignore those and you'll be much more happy. And, if you run out games to play, just go for some "best games of year" or use "people who liked this game also liked that game" algorithms or check what some of your favorite game critics have been played for the last months and, voilà!, to-play list full again for some months.
Agreed..
But I want MilkSong
This only applies to games that are totally stand-alone or are the first entry in a series. Almost everything that people are excited about are sequels to games that people adore, and so they have much more investment in the game than they would for some other game
I really wish this were accurate for me, but I don't really enjoy the majority of games I try. I have a handful I enjoy, but I've overplayed most of them to the point where I have to wait years before I can sort-of enjoy playing most of them again. I've tried most of the 'games like this one' lists and they usually don't hit the same chords that the games I really get into do.
I see people who play through one game after another like watching movies and it seems alien to me. I think that kind of gamer is looking for something different than what I look for in a gaming experience.
Yes but I can’t afford to buy so many games that I might not even like, so I would rather just save my money for something that I will almost definitely love
If only it were that easy. I have a rather large steam library already and am always finding new things to spend time on, but some things just scratch a certain itch that you can't get anywhere else and you're already so invested in the story and world.
With games too there can be some that are so specific. My favorite sub-genre of games (card-based roguelikes) has only four games that I know of and one of them isn't very well made. I had been waiting three years for this little indie game to come out that just released a week or so ago. It blew my expectations out of the water but I can't help but wish there was more, even if it was a great game. Unfortunately I know of no others in the genre being developed. (Slay the Spire, Monster Train, and Inscryption are the good ones I recommend to anyone wanting to check them out)
Pieces of music from Hollow Knight are so nostalgic and bring me some hope that Silksong will be awesome
Metroid Dread was a nearly 20 year wait. It got to the point where people thought it was cancelled and that the guy who leaked it was losing his mind when he kept insisting that it was a real project. Then the first ad dropped with a release date.
This has just made me rekindle my anxious wait for Silksong lol
I can totally relate to this from waiting for games from the 90s and early 2000s but with the sheer breadth and quality of gaming around today there is always other stuff you could be enjoying.
Breath of the Wild got me "back" into video games in 2018, it's the best video game experience I've had as an adult. That said, expectations for the sequel are obviously quite high. So I feel like the wait is still GOOD, it's not too long, I still feel excited about it and there is sort of an idea of WHEN you can start to expect the sequel.
My approach to waiting for games is simple: I try to temper my expectations for several years. You never know whether you'll have to wait 2 years, 3 years, 5 years, or 19 years. I know for me, I try not to get too hyped about something until I know there's a release date
I am waiting for a lot of new things to come out. And as trials in my life has taught me and i have learned from hardships i have discovered that active waiting when control is out of your hands is torture. If i have no control over something i just dont wait for it, if it comes out it comes out i am going to forget it is a thing untill it is out. I have forgotten about silksong for the last 6 months untill i saw this video.
I'm really hoping it works out that you can talk about the Echoes of the Eye at some point. I couldn't even have guessed at what a good DLC for such a wonderful game would have been, but they blew any expectations I had out the window again.
The best way to avoid the sickening thought of waiting for something you're unsure will ever arrive is to become a Sanderson fan and follow his progress with the trackers he has set up on his website.
A good developer will always provide updates on their project
And his weekly CZcams updates now too lol
Except then you start waiting for the Mistborn film and... oh no
Sanderson is very good at keeping his audience aprised of what he's working on, but he also has more unfinished series that he isn't actively working on than most authors will ever start.
the silk song wait has entered the “I don’t care anymore” phase
I waited so long that I lost any expectations for Frankieonpc making another video. And then 5 years later he came out with a new video and I was not disappointed. He's back and better than I would have ever imagined.