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The "May you live forever" line is so much colder than you realize. Remember earlier in the movie, when Michael Fassbender and the other Greek were looking down on the Persian encampment, and he says that Spartans dream of a good death. A good death, to a Spartan, was to die gloriously on the battlefield, surrounded by your enemies. So when Leonidas told the hunchback that he hopes he lives forever, he was literally calling him a coward who was unworthy of being a Spartan, and doesn't deserve honor, glory, or renown.
Yup, I also interpret it as ‘May you live ashamed of yourself forever’ there is little sorrow that compares to having to hate yourself and live your life wanting to be something that you never will be.
It's seen as a curse...another is..
'May you have an interesting life '
That's a foretelling of many things that may beset you..generally trials and misfortune...
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I love it. My manhood is attached to this film
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Doesn't that hurt?
Leonidas told efialtis ‘May you live forever’ it means that he will live forever in history and it is true because after thousands of years we speak about him and the battle of thermopolis
"Come back with your shield or on it." Warriors who fled battle would likely drop their heavy shield so they could escape. Dead warriors would be carried back on their shields. So she is saying that he should either come back having fought bravely and won, or to come back after having died in the fight, but not to return if he flees battle.
Victory or death and nothing in between.
@@darthwiizius Technically one could come back on ones shield wounded too. Whcih would be a victory as well since typically fallen enemies would be killed so a wounded soldier who was saved and brought back on his shield was also on the winning side. So a little bit of in between.
That's a Celtic tradition as well, come home with your shield or on it, come home to protect your village alive or come back and protect it in the next life
@@darkamora5123a warrior would not come home wounded on his shield, he may help to carry another dead comrade but never be carried on his own shield as long as he was alive
@@darkamora5123no technicalities
This battle is considered the turning point for Western Civilization as we know it. By fighting and hold the Persian army up at the pass it gave the rest of the Greeks time to assemble their armies as well as committed the Spartan army to the fight. The fact that they held the Pass for so long also was seen as brave beyond measure and created a rallycry for all Greeks, like the Alamo.
And then you have Alexander the not so great burning down Sparta to the ground just for a whim. The same civilization that pretty much stopped the Persians from taking the whole of Greece, Macedonia included.
@@sspiegel1 Dude, there were 150 years between those events, a second Persian attempt at conquest and a literal "civil war" in the Greek world in between and Alexander wanted to end the Persian menace once and for all, AND HE DID. What are you on about?
Plus, Sparta wasn't a civilization ; it was a city-state that was part of a civilization.
Sparta was a slave state lol, Persian society back then had more freedoms and booming commerce than any Greek society, 300 is not based on reality and is not supposed to be
It's not just a movie, this is an artistic/theatrical take on the history, but yeah, 300 Spartans along with a few thousand other Greeks actually held Thermopylae for a short time against a large horde of Persians. Gave Greece a chance to prepare for the real war, epic history.
It was far more than 300. Closer to 1000 Spartans.
@@BrandonWestfall and between 3 and 6 thousand other greeks
@@BrandonWestfall fighting what 300k persians? Epic from the mighty Greeks. Most elite army in the history of planet Earth.
They never tell you that the Spartans practiced homosexuality and a bunch of other really different marriage and kid raising things that the normal American would find a bit disgusting. Seriously, look it up
@@granta3044 yea most of the greeks in that time period thought that the purest form of love is making love to the same gender as it didnt serve a biological purpose
The spartans were the embodiment of "try me" energy.
Once, when a message from a neighboring king arrived, the king of sparta read it and it read as follows "If I wanted to, I could march my armies through sparta and set it ablaze."
The spartan king sent a letter back with only one word written on it. "If"
That reply makes no sense if the message was "If I wanted to[...]".
The message was in the form of "if I bring my armies into your land, you'll be destroyed etc." Replying "If" to that is a good retort. It's not a good retort to the message in your comment.
The best part of that story? The neighboring king in question was Philip II......Alexander The Great's father.
The quote, as you’ve written it, is not correct.
@@rileyandmike the one general with the ephors was also black.
Actually it was "If I march through Laconia, I will drive you out", Laconia being the "state" part of the Spartan city-state. Philip proceeded to invade Laconia, and drive the Spartans out, leaving them only their city.
Being a Greek ancestry, I learned about Leonidas and the Spartans from my grandparents and my parents. This is a story that Is told the kids when they’re young and it’s really all about who we were being of Greek heritage.
Obviously this movie took liberties but the story is true… They fought to keep their land free! So proud of that history.
I believe the exaggeration in the story here isn't just Hollywood dramatics but trying to show how Greeks of the time viewed the story..
Like the choice in cinematography it has this dream like feel.
I wish they would remake more history in this style that carries the original story but adds this lite fantasy element that people of the time would have viewed these stories through.
@@captainhook190 i don't understand your comment.. You realize there is a place called Greece right?
This was told in a way that the story tellers of old would have portrayed it... as a Greek epic tale. And it was shown on screen the way those listening would imagine it. Xerxes was like 8 feet tall... the beasts from all over the world... the 'immortals' looking like monsters... the arrows blotting out the sun. All exaggerated liberties of an epic tale of heroism, crafted to stir these scenes in the imaginations of Greeks marching off to war.
@@Mr.Ekshin right, that’s why it both starts and ends with him telling the story.
@@Brandon-vd7erMy father was born in Greece, and came to this country when he was 16 years old. I also know that the Spartans were Greek and that’s all our heritage we are Greek! Got it
I saw an interview with Frank Miller in which he said that when he was young, he saw the old movie "300 Spartans" on TV. He said that he had previously always thought of a hero as someone who is at the top and always wins but that "300 Spartans" showed him that heroes are people who are willing to sacrifice themselves for something greater. I found that very interesting because it made me think of how often kids idolize someone for their success, wealth, fame and influence rather than for the content of their character.
It's all about what society teaches. Today we have no freaking idea what sacrifice or morals or ideals mean. It's all about "me, me, me".
The style of this movie lends itself really well to the underlying aspect that the entire movie is Dilios (the messenger) telling the story of what happened. The Persians are portrayed as creatures and monsters because Dilios is both embellishing a little, and is trying to describe things he has never seen (such as elephants and facial piercings), while also trying to inspire his countrymen to take up arms and join the fight.
This is what a lot of people who were critical of the Persians portrayal in this film miss. The story being told is basically Spartan propaganda before battle, of course it's not going to be favourable or accurate.
Also, the way he narrates Leonidas's final fight, which he clearly wasn't present for. Detailing all the excuses why Leonidas probably wasn't able to kill Xerxes. "His shield was heavy... His helmet messed up his vision... His target was far away."
@@xXturbo86Xx Propaganda is one of the central themes explored by Frank Miller in his Graphic Novels.
@@xXturbo86Xx i never read the novel, but i'm aware of it. that being said, i'm not sure your point is made. i think the idea that "we are seeing a spartan's perspective of the people involved" is acceptable reasoning. hypothetically, from your perspective, let's say "the movie looks like this because the novel looked like that". well, why does the novel look like that? "maybe the artist made random choices. maybe he just happens to have a style like that. the good guys looked normal, the bad guys were embellished".
well, we're seeing the story from the perspective of the spartans? in both the novel and the movie, it looks like we're in the shoes of the greeks, the persians are embellished, and there is a narrator. whether the artists involved did this intentionally or not, they still did it. dilios is the only one to walk away from the battle, so, the embellishments make sense. in the novel, the narrator may not be dilios, maybe it's herodotus, but in any case, we know the greek side is telling this story.
which is really interesting to think about. a greek tells a story about how heroic spartans stand against evil persians to a greek, who tells the mythologized, embellished story to herodotus who tells this embellished story, etc, etc, frank miller picks it up and tells this story, then zack snyder. were the modern artists aware that keeping the story a bit embellished and mythologized, and then putting it into the mouth of a narrator (likely greek) would portray this idea that what we're seeing is being told from a very specific perspective? probably. if not, that's very lucky.
yeah, im sure they intended it to come across as how a spartan would tell the story
Leonidas and the Battle of Thermopylae really happened. The monsters... not so much. That being said, it was an amazing dramatic representation. King Leonidas is an inspiration to all those who defy tyranny. When Xerxes demanded they lay down their weapons, Leonidas' reply, "Molon Labe" (come and take them) is a shout of defiance to this day -- it is used by 2nd amendment supporters against those who would strip them of their right of self-defense.
Except second amendment people are nothing like Greeks in that time period. I support the second amendment but these people are cringe as hell when they try and use Greeks or Roman’s to push their narrative
@@DynamiteProd what narrative? Nobody who is for the 2nd amendment is pushing an agenda. The left is.
@@DynamiteProdLOL if they really use those words I find it hilarious. I don’t think it’s really true but if it is, it doesn’t hold the same weight anymore. Guns are cool but they take no courage to use, it’s just aim and fire, a baby could kill the strongest man on earth.
@𖤍 surprised you've never heard it used that way, there's endless tacky merch. My neighbor had a flag with it on display
yup and the head of Leonidas was put on a spears. 1400 Greeks was at that Battle, the second group 400 and the third-party 700. the Persian empire march untill Athens. After a second big defeat at mid point, the Spartans isolate themselves from the rest of Greece.
There is a part two to the movie called “300: Rise Of An Empire”..
This movie is based on a true story, and one little thing y’all missed is that by Spartan law, if their king dies then the whole army has to go to war by default. So that’s the reason why Leonidas chose to go to war with that handful of soldiers
The sequel sucks tbh.
@@AngryJT I agree that the first one was better but I still enjoyed the storyline.
And why he said "pray we are that lucky and pray they are that stupid" when he was to meet with Xerxes.
@I AM BAYTOR nah the sequel is hard af fym
@@brabbit736 I think people miss this often. It's a simple line but the consequences of those actions would mean their death. This movie is full of great lines.
That speech at the ending always gives me goosebumps too. Powerful.
I watch that part of the movie quite often. I'm part Greek, so when he mentions Greeks or Greece I tear up...🇬🇷🇬🇷
for me it paints a mental picture , it shows just what 300 spartans where capable of doing to a huge army , and now , just imaging facing 10.000 of those psycho's.
"Just there, the barbarians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers, knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of 300. Yet they stare now across the plain at 10,000 Spartans" - Such a great line
a few years ago i traveled to Greece , and visited that battle fired and saw the grave of the 300 . it was very emotional to stand on that ground .
It’s must have been something special to stood there…TRUE warriors.
Dang I want to someday visit those warrior’s grave also
@@jayviencortez You know the movie isn't based on reality but in a comic, right?. And the comic itself is not what you could say accurate, to say the least. The spartans weren't "true warriors" but rich people fighting with servants at their sides and slaves at home. They were supposed to be fit by greek standards because part of their socialization were mandatory comunal sports (but also drinking, singing and dancing) but not the best soldiers, as they weren't actually trained as such and they were very few anyway. And again they had to be rich, if they stopped being rich then they stopped being citizens as well. And that's just a very very small part of all what is not accurate.
Don't take me wrong. I love both the comic and the movie but they're just fantasy based on an alternate version of history.
All of Greece had slaves at the time as well as the vast majority of the world. You can’t judge prior civilizations by modern standards.
@@EldritchElricyou don't know what you're saying, my friend...
Sure the movie is based on a comic book, but the book is also based on true events.
This all is history, not mythology.
Sparta, Leonidas, Agogy, Spartan way of life, "earth and water", battle of Thermopylae, battle of Plateaus, Persian wars, all true!!!
You can visit the place and a couple museums, and you will understand.
I heard the best description of this movie from historian, Dan Carlin. He said that when the Persians and the Greeks first met they looked alien to each other. These two cultures had never met previously. Their battle tactics, their skin color, their armor, everything about them was strange and alien to the Greeks. So, in the movie we see monsters and bizarre creatures not because they actually existed in that time, but to give the viewer a sense of what it felt like for the Greeks when they met the Persians on the battlefield. To them, they were encountering monsters.
When Xerxes showed up on his temple his slaves looked like bugs and it really reminded me of some sci-fi stuff I've been into lately.
BS
This wasn't the first attempt that Persia made to crush Greece, Darius tried earlier and was killed in the attempt I think.
That's some really stupid shit. Greeks had fought against the persian empire many times before. And Greeks and Middle easterners are both caucasians, they would look indistuingishable from each other.
Also, we are watching the whole movie as a visualisation of the story that's being told by he one eyed Spartan. The only purpose of his story is to boost the moral for soldiers, create hate against the Persians and make the dead Spartans and their stand sound as great as possible. That's why in the story he describes stuff like rhinos, and huge monster dudes. To make the 300 look crazy strong for defeating all that
Loyalty, honour, bravery, brotherhood, modesty, integrity not being a coward are characteristics every man should strive for to get respected.
I love how Asia is just like “hell nawww” and BJ just understands the manhood of it all 😂😂love this reaction lmao
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She is irritating the eff outta me.😂😂😂 i grew up on horror and action movies. Watched old b and w movies on late night tv when i knew i had school early. 300 is a fun movie (not 1000 % accurate but fun). I can't watch that rom com girly stuff. Different strokes, i guess. I'm trying so hard not to be mean.. but it seems like she doesn't watch movies with actual plotlines. No hate but damn... pick up a book. Can u imagine watching Game of Thrones with her? Love anyways❤ oooo shouldn't hit submit...
When Leonidas tells Ephialtes "May you live forever", he’s saying both "may you never have the honour of death in battle like a real Spartan" and also "may you live forever with the shame of having betrayed your own people". Powerful words.
It also means "may you be remembered forever as a traitor and a coward". That's exactly how Ephialtes is remembered too, over 2500 years later.
@@TopNotchStoner Exactly. Historically, though, I don’t he was actually physically disabled in any way. The name Ephialtes literally means ‘outcast', to the best of my knowledge, so he may have been born out of wedlock or something. Just my own theory.
May you live forever knowing that you SURRENDERED to the enemy because a TRUE Spartan never would.
Yeah they did everything right, The first movie is a complete banger. Its easily one of my all time favorite
@@tomaskennedyu know we still use the word Ephialtes(Efialtes) in Greece...In Greek means nightmare.
A couple of the quotes from the movie - "Only Spartan women give birth to real men" and "Come back with me your shield or on it" - are things the Queen of Sparta actually really said. Also, "Our arrows will blot out the sun" "Then we will fight in the shade" was another real quote.
The story is beautiful. I could read it forever.
And don’t forget about the messenger that he said “earth and water’
@@khancrow7015 A lot of these legends are open to interpretation, I’d say. A couple of thousand years of paraphrasing and re-interpretation changes a story pretty quickly. "Father of journalism" is a good one, though. I hadn’t thought of that.
My favorite Laconian quote is "If" 😎
I wouldn't say the quotes are what Gorgo really said. Herodotus was known for adding theatrics to his stories. All the quotes should be taken with a pinch of salt.
One of the greatest films of ALL TIME, Gerard Butler's performance was Legendary
"Immortals?.. He put their names to the test.."
This is probably one of my favorite reactions so far.
Katsumoto: -"What happened to those warriors at Thermopylae?"
Algren: -"Dead to the last man."
Katsumoto: _smiles and charges forward_
The Based Samurai
One of the coolest parts of the 300 story irl is the messenger Leonidas sent back. Because glory was so important and retreat so unthinkable that even despite leaving because his king order him to he was shunned by other Spartans on his return.
He was in the front line of the next clash w the Spartans, he died w his glory intact.
Someone who retreats from battle, even when ordered, had the lowest status in their society. They couldn't even marry anyone afterwards because they were seen as the lowest form of life. It just shows how much pride and honor they lived with. It's both fascinating and terrifying.
One of the hardest movies ever made. Period
This movie was a visual masterpiece. I watched it twice in theaters and it's the only movie I've ever seen in theaters where people were cheering and applauding through out the entire movie. It was awesome.
I saw it opening weekend and it was WILD! 1 of the best theater experiences I've ever had and actually was louder and more cheering and crying then when I saw end game lol.
The great deadpan comebacks are actually a reflection of Spartan culture. According to historical texts "Come and get them" was an actual Spartan response when the Persians demanded they lay down their weapons. The region where Sparta was located was and still is named Laconia and that is where the word 'laconic' comes from.
I love how Asia instantly inserts herself into the story and refuses to take another step towards the bad guys. 😂
"We gotta go back" lmao i love her.
The greeks were poetry mad and loved being immortalized via verse. So the ending overdub that gave y'all chills. The part where it was saying "Go tell the Spartans that here we fell...." That was a poem commissioned by Spartans after this battle and has been chiseled into the walls where Leonadias and his men fell along with the other brave Greeks that joined them.
As a Greek i remember when this movie first came out, it was a big topic of discussion in Greece. We are actually taught about the real life events at school and this movie obviously embellishes a lot of things by romanticizing the Spartans who were all things considered a war mongering tribe whose practices where often savage like even for that time period. But it was still a nice tribute to an actual stand by people who had no intention of submitting to an outside force. Which is a recurring theme in our country's history.
"Action" movies don't have to be all about violence. This lady watched and understood that despite this being outside the genre she would usually watch. Props to you.
Great reaction guys. Looking forward for more.
“Ready your breakfast and eat hearty! For tonight we dine in hell!”
One of the most badass lines in cinema
Fun fact:that's what king Leonidas actually tell to the remaining men of the greek army before the last day of the battle
Politely disagree,
"Our arrows will blot out the sun."
"Then we fight in the shade."
That's the line.
"But I lived a good life!"
@@PromptCriticalJello well.... both are from an ancient Historian "Plutarch" from his book "apophthegmata laconica".... and many many more of this movie's "badass lines"...
i'm so sorry cause i can't "speak" for you the phrase about Sun and arrows in ancient greek...... so powerfull "sounds"...
@@Provocrator well, you sent me down a rabbit hole to try to find something online that would give a spoken translation because i wanted to hear it. No luck.
But yes, the Spartans were renowned for their badassisms. And i respect that.
OH MY GOODNESS- When Asia was stunned by what she saw and BJ had to wave his hands in front of her to bring her back to the present, then she laughed and said “I don’t know about this babe”- I literally laughed out loud!!!!! 😂
Asia and BJ’s reactions are always so entertaining and fun
Love the channel- keep up the great work
“WE DON’T PLAY THAT OVER HERE...SHOOT”. Asia describes this scene PERFECTLY!
"That's the clearance aisle" is the best line I've ever heard in any reaction video I've ever seen.... and I've probably watch a few hundred by now.
This movie is SO badass! 🖤
Another badass movie with Gerard Butler is, 'Law Abiding Citizen.' Jamie Foxx is in it too. Brutal but incredible!
Ending sucks though.
@@TheTurinturumbar You think so? I fully respect your opinion! I thought it was pretty good.
@@meganlynn83 oh yeah, it's Jamie Foxx fault to. Got tired of his characterless character getting punked and convinced them that the bad guy should win so the corruption could continue.
And Olympus Has Fallen!
@@TheTurinturumbar I said that exact thing after my first watch. I heard that Foxx wanted it changed or he wouldn’t do the movie
Asia hiding behind her blanket when she gets scared never gets old!!
"Spartans! Lay down your weapons!"
"Persians! Come and get them!"
Will always be one of my favorite dialogue exchanges of all time.
And it was true words... Μολών λαβέ ,at Greek language 💪🙂
"Spartans what is your profession?"
"Aoooo!,Aoooo!,Aooo!"
What an FN flick
This movie makes me wanna go to the gym with the Spartan outfit and never leave 😆 such an action packed film 🔥
This movie made me want to hang out in Xerxes' tent and never leave.
@@GrimrDirge Nah f that. i'd rather die than be a slave.
ROFL
Asia: This is not my type of movie.
Also Asia: I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED NEXT!!!!
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“Come back with your shield or on it!”
“With your shield” =Those who surrender in battle do not get to keep their shields…
“or on it” = dead soldiers were carried back home on their shields.
Translation…Win or Die trying
Spartans weren't only trained to be fit soldiers (the beauty standard for women was a healthy, fit build, too), they had lessons in laconic speech. Those awesome one liners - Spartans were taught to be quick thinkers. The response to a foreign kings letter threatening all the worst things they'd do to the people if they were defeated was a simple 'if'.
Asia’s response to this movie is absolutely wholesome.
To give you an idea of how badly Xerxes was defeated in real life, he was carried to Greece and had to walk back to Persia.
Amazingly after two and a half millennia Greek and Persian people have immense respect for each other's ancient culture.
Asia: "OH..we gotta go!"
BJ: "No! This is 300 Asia!"
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The "Clearance Aisle" line was perfect too LOL 😂
"May you live forever." The Greeks thought that you could gain a kind of immortality if your name was remembered through time. Naturally this generally meant being either a great hero... or a great villain. Saying "May you live forever" to Ephialtes was essentially damning him to be forever remembered as a traitor and a villain, and thousands of years later he's still remembered that way. He wasn't a twisted hunchback in real life but the visuals in this movie are more about symbolic representation of what happened rather than an actual representation.
When Leonidas told the hunchback "may you live forever" that was the worst insult they could offer because they all wanted to die gloriously in battle, also, "come back with your shield or on it" means come back victorious carrying your shield or come back dead carried on your shield.
10:15 LOL, crack me up. "There is only 10, it's 30, there's like 100. Oh there is 300." LOL DING DING DING...LOL
The beautiful thing, Leonidas maintains his poise all through out the film, not even showing and real sadness when leaving his queen. Them when death is about to take him, she's all he can think about. Just beautiful.
Asia: I don't watch these kinds of movies. They aren't usually on my radar.
(5 minutes later)
She's jumping up and down and is all into it hahaha
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Congratulations. You just watched your first comic book movie on the channel. The story of 300 is based on a real battle between Sparta and Persia, and this movie is adapted directly from a famous comic book about it by Frank Miller. That's why the cinematography is so stylized. A lot of the shots are taken right from the comic book page and his artwork. It was funny to she Asia come around on enjoying this movie, because this was one of my wife's favorites.
The battle of the Thermopilae?
WDYM? Of course girls love it. You forgot the absss. Lmao
@@roca7108yes bro this battle was
"My queen, my wife, my love" what a man! Leonidas is a real king.
Great reaction again.
Not sure if it's been mentioned but the necklace she gave to Leonidas was from the wolf he killed while in youth he gave it to her when they were married and she gave it back to him and she then passed it to their son when it was handed back to her at the end
When this film came out..I had to drag my gf at the time to go see it with me. She, we ended up loving it. Asia's reaction to 300 is almost a near reflection of my gfs reaction. This movie is a good time. Hope you guys have a good one.
I think it was actually fairly common for rulers to fight with their armies back in those days. It was only with the growth of huge empires that it became less common. Partly because the rulers started feeling they were too important to risk and partly because their borders were so large they no longer could be present for every battle as opposed to when they would rule essentially a city and its surrounding lands only.
It was, especially in Europe. Both Alexander the Great and Caesar were incredibly talented soldiers who fought alongside their men.
Another point, is back in Greece at the time it was common to speak in battle lines of poetry like this similar to how rap is a battle of words as well facing a rival. It helped inspire the troops and defeat the enemy verbally. You can see it in modern boxing as fighters will usually trash talk to throw off the opponent before the fight.
The blanket is always a formidable cover from danger! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 😘😘😘😘
In real life, Efialtes was just a shepherd that is known for betraying the Spartans, but not a spartan himself. He probably lived in the mountains near the Hot Gates ("Thermopilae") and revealed the Persians the goat path mentioned in the movie.
Leonidas was right when he said: "May you live forever"
I learned about the history of this battle (Battle of Thermopylae) back in school shortly before this film came out, was so awesome knowing about it and seeing it play out in such a great film, with brilliant acting and amazing videography. Also, to answer your question, yes there is a sequel of sorts, it's not quite as good but a little different and still well worth watching!
"Come back with your shield, or on it" When you flee the battle the first thing you throw away in order to run faster is your shield. That's why she says "come back with your shield" which means come back a winner, "or on it" which reffers to being carried as a dead body. It was considered dishonorable to flee the battle...
Schucky Ducky! In the real battle the Spartans wore lamellar armor that was multi layers of cloth, layers of leather and then bronze plate on top. If an arrow or spear got through the plate it would be stopped by all the layers of leather and then cloth, it's actually similar to how kevlar works today. Their armor is one of the reasons the Spartans were so devastating in battle.
What you are seeing is the story told by the lone survivor to inspire the Spartan army. Everything was embellished to make it more spectacular. The God king Xerses being 9 feet tall, the immortals being monstrous creatures......it makes a great story.
Originally a messenger ran from marathon to Athens, 26.2 miles, delivering the message "we have won" and promptly collapsed and died. So crazy things in battles get retold. A citizen did betray the hidden goat path to the Persians and a typhoon did destroy a large portion of the Persian fleet. The facts do get blurred and exaggerated in Hollywood movies though for sure.
That's mainly because the movie is based on a historically inspired graphic novel, which itself is based on the true historical events.
greek army, not spartan
@@dkitsos100 no, Spartan Army. In 480 bc, "Greece" was made up of independent city-states that each had their own form of government/rulership, and often had conflict and wars among themselves. It wasn't until about 140 years later that Phillip of Macedon (Alexander's father) unified all of the city-states into the kingdom of Greece, which laid the foundation for Alexander to create the Empire of Greece
@@Juan_E_Dewitt i am greek... Let me know better... They were all greek in different city states. Same language, same gods, same traditions, same civilazation, same blood...
I've seen this movie several times, and own the comic book, but watching the movie with you two just now may be my new favorite way to experience it. Asia's reactions are so fun!
BJ said, “they need to send all little boys to Sparta”. 😂😂😂
"Returned wearing the wolf..." I've seen this movie dozens of times and never noticed that. Well done sir.
Sparta is where we get the term laconic from. Responses like “we will fight in the shade”. So they basically invented the action movie one liner.
The best Spartan example is when Philip, Alexander the Great’s dad, tried to invade Sparta. He said “if I win, you will all die”. The Spartans replied, “If…”.
Sparta lies inside a mountain range off the south of Greece, they generally kept to themselves, though they did enslave one neighboring village. When the Greek kings went to conquer Greece or govern the mainland, they generally left Sparta alone. Even Alexander the Great and his father didn't want to invade that land. Leonidas according to legend was told by the oracle at Delphi that a prince of Sparta would die at Thermopylae, but in doing so, Greece would be saved.
I visited thermoply on a college vacation, just being there gives u chills up your spine just knowing the history, and yes they have a part 2
The cinematography of this movie is so great! The light and dark contrasting.
They did a fantastic job of filming it like the graphic novel it was based on, like Sin City.
@@ohmightywez I like how there's two layers of distortion that separates this movie from the historical events. One layer is the graphic novel style of the presentation you mentioned. The second layer is the way the events are recounted through the lens of Dilios biased narration, designed to convince the council to go to war. So everything he says is exaggerated; Xerxes is presented as a demigod, the enemies they're fighting as beasts, magicians, giants, and demons, Ephialtes as an a disfigured hunchback with elephantitis. It's sort of an illustration how myths get made - they're distorted and exaggerated by people with an agenda. Lovely movie.
@@ohedd I like your analysis. Honestly, I’m getting old and intellectually lazy. lol But you’re absolutely right about all the nuance happening. It makes this such an epic movie, in the non-hackneyed, non-overused sense of the word.
I LOVE Asia's reaction of "I'm gonna be back there if you need me" XD And also that she is covering her face while letting some gap between her fingers to STILL watch the movie! 🙂
BJ is just having a blast!
I got to tell you that that score when Leonidas defeats the wolf and emerges as a young adult... that score in the theatres did NOT take any prisoners either. This was definitely a mix between a movie, a theatre piece and the comic this was based upon.
Oh, and those slow-mos at around 18:15 were actually done in real by the stuntman and the actors. (If you can wind the werk film ( making of ) edition there you can see how they have done it. It is fascinating.
Awesome movie, and based on a real battle. Obviously there weren’t trolls and demons, but Xerxes was a real dude and the “immortals” were an actual army that he defeated and then put under his command. Spartans were not to be f’d with, and they stood their ground until the rest of Greece balled up and joined the fight. The Athenian navy also played a big part. We love you two! Keep watching these great historical movies!!! Gladiator. Troy. Ben Hur. The Passion. Braveheart. People haven’t changed all that much over the years, just technology. It’s good to learn about how trials and tribulations recirculate, and honor always lives eternal.
300 is a good example of how to present history entertainingly and memorably while retaining the essence of the historical record including the famous quotes. Although the 300 Spartans and their allies were defeated in this battle it still became instrumental in delaying the Persian Army for over a week which allowed enough time to evacuate Athens and for the Athenian Navy to assemble and assume their positions in the Saronic Gulf hidden from view beside the island of Salamis where it was to lay a trap for the Persian Navy. A trap in which the Persian Navy would take the bait and would be destroyed leaving Xerxes in an unsustainable position forcing himself and his army to retreat to Persia.
Both the battle of Thermopylae and the battle of Salamis we're examples strategy which a strategic defeat can still be instrumental in achieving victory in the overall outcome of winning the war. The strategy which the movie failed to illustrate was how the 300 Spartans and the hundreds of their allies that fought with them could hold such a large opposition force for roughly seven days while withstanding minimal casualties. This feat was achieved first by choosing the battlefield which would complement their fighting formation and technic.
In particular, The Phalanx Formation requires each man to the lineup in a close-knit position in which the shield of each man would overlap with the man to his side forming a shield wall. This shield wall would act as a single unifying element. This essentially is an example that results in the sum of each part creating leverage by becoming one synchronized unit that must be disciplined enough not to break that formation and throw away that leverage.
The pass of Thermopylae was an ideal choke point where it was narrow less than 100 meters wide so as long as they can cover that distance in the phalanx formation and not break then they would be in a position of leverage This position of leverage neutralizes the numbers advantage the opposite may have by forcing them into one on one combat.
The Spartans also employed a Phalanx spear which they placed between each man's shield. Each spear was about 8 feet long which created enough distance to make multiple thrusts at the enemy combatant before they could reach anyone Spartan. Another advantage would become the dead man's body would be cut down and would also become an obstacle for the next man attacking who would need to slow the momentum of their charge to maneuver around the fallen man which would make them easy targets to become another body in the way, and so on, and so on.
After the naval battle of Salamis (September 480 BC), Xerxes left General Mardonius in Greece with an army of 300,000 to finish the subjugation of Greece the following Spring. The Greeks united and formed an allied army of 30,000 hoplites. In the Spring of 479 BC, the final battle was fought in Plataea, with the victory of the Greeks and the destruction of the Persian army. Those who survived became slaves. This victory led the Greek cities to the development of culture, science and the perfection of democracy. No one knows what would happen if Xerxes stepped on Europe, or rather we all know...
Zack Snyder is a master of cinematography, it gave justice and reverence to this great graphic novel. Just like what he did with Watchmen and his own version of Justice League. I hope you check out his other works, his movies are paintings in motion!
'Come back with your shield. Or on it.' It means come back victorious or dead.
I watched this in the theater when it first came out in 2006 and yes it is a must to see on the big screen to get the full frontal of the effects both audio and visual for sure......Good reaction guys
If you liked this yall would love Troy and possibly Kingdom of Heaven. The true story of the 300 is crazy, too. King Leonidas is definitely an inspirational figure in history. You two are some of my favorite reactors keep it up!
Kingdom of Heaven rules. Rumor has it...... it's on yt for free...
The battle of Thermopoli is really fascinating, and how Spartans really lived, incredible. Spartan women were the rare people that could actually own land and run businesses because the men were often at war
300 is one of my top favorite movies and the history behind the real battle. This review and commentary was perfect lol Didn't know I needed this but I did. You guys never disappoint and I'm glad you enjoyed the movie.
Those guys were called Immortals, because anytime one died he was quickly replaced. Which gave the illusion of them being unkillable.
This is one of those movies, that was an amazing experience in the theaters
“I was on there side the whole time” haha “ Na you we’re trying to retreat “. Lmao. Love you guys
Also the "May you live forever" line is a very deep one in Greek language, because Ephialtes translates exactly and means "Nighmare". Even today when you think of him or you just have a bad dream or a very bad experience in life, you say the word Nighmare=Ephialtes.
That was amazing to see your reaction. You were so IN IT! You watch movies together so well. Talking but not interupting, making good points but still paying attention. Keep it up!
There is a part 2 called 300: Rise of an Empire. These movies are based on historical events between Greece and Persia. While there is fantastical stuff added for movie reasons, the core story comes from the historical events. The hunchback spartan as you call him is called Ephialtes which in Greek means (Nightmare). The name was born at that moment to be used as the word for anything that was a Nightmare. The 300 Spartans and the other Greeks that were with them before leaving are the reason that Greece ultimately united into one people and put their city state differences aside to become one country, one people, to fight for all freedom. I would recommend reading about the battle of Thermopylae and the resulting battle later when Persia tried to invade again. While the second movie is not as captivating as the first, it's still a great watch to see how a small nation could defeat a super power for the desire to keep freedom alive. Fun fact, it isn't the first time Greeks achieved this. In World War 2, Greece was the first country of the Allied Nations to defeat the Axis army in the Greco-Italian Wars. It's considered the first Defeat of the Axis Army which is sadly not highly educated on in schools nowadays. Greece held up Germany for over 210 days, more than any other country in the world and this time allowed Russia the time to build the military power it sorted to destroy the Nazi's during the Russian winter. Gotta love history! We owe so much to the Greeks and the world powers has unfortunately left them to degrade to a spec of what their former selves used to be. Sad...
"Come on with your shield or on it" and "we will fight in the shade" and "come and get them" are some of the real historic quotes told by the Spartans 2500 years ago and also on the movie. There are many real phrases and quotes on the movie
Most European kings would be in attendance at their battles lol. Yes they would be protected but have a look into how many died on battlefields! It boosted moral within the fighting men to have them present. Heck, Even queen Elizabeth the 1st stood occasionally with her troops against the Spanish Armada. “I may have the weak and feeble body of a woman, but I have the heart and soul of a king!”
Asia you probably liked it because as a military veteran you can relate. The battles between ancient Greece and Persia is part of international military history and legend. "It’s a potent example of an outnumbered force using military and tactical advantages to their utmost and exacting a heavy toll on their enemy". The Battle of Thermopylae (thuh-mo-puh-lee) is mentioned in another movie called "The Last Samurai" with Tom Cruise
So I worked at Warner bros games and they approached us to make a game on this movie We saw very early pre visuals and met with director to discuss the movie/game. We all knew this was going to be a massive box office hit. Was cool to see this come to life
Guys this movies is based on actual battle of history, it was the Battle of Thermopylae. The Greeks trying to defend their coastal lands from the Persians, of course it sensationalized for entertainment purposes, but it is historical event.
The line, “then we’ll fight in the shade” was a real line from the time.
Before the movie - Asia, "This is not my thing." After: "I got goosebumps!" LOL. Nice.
BJ's one-liners are EPIC 🤣
"Oh he breakin bad." Gold.
I saw this movie in the theatre when it first came out and for like a month, everyone was going "Arghoo!" 😂
The wolf at the beginning represents Persia and the boy is Leonidas. He fought the wolf by trapping it in a narrow passage and slaughtering it like he later did to he Persian army.
"300 Rise of an Empire" is the sequel, so give it a watch. Great Reaction to a Awesome movie.
Yes. They tried the same formula for the 2nd movie. Good, but not close. Too many movies afterwards tried copying the style so it didn't hit as hard the 2nd time.
Thanks BJ you won one. Thanks Asia for letting this one slip through. This is one of my favorites.
Fun fact: Those are spray-painted "abs" on the warriors. Body paint. The Queen is Circi Lannister from Game of Thrones and of course there are a number of other great actors as warriors you'll be able to pick out. Magnito anyone?
Now while the actual battle was much larger (The 300 Spartans also having brought almost double that in their slave class called 'helots' and being backed up by several thousand Thespian and Athenian hoplites) it was just as incredible. Love this movie, every bit of it, even though its based off of the comic and not the actual history. Pure insanity, this movie is a straight line of dopamine into my brain.
yea like total 6-7k total for leonidas and people did leave before the final stand there was like 1500 that stayed and died with the spartans
Aisa....." I got goosebumps"..😎
Hell yeah girl...
This is a true story to a degree and the 300 stood for freedom of ALL people...
It's a beautiful violent film..😎🤟
"freedom for all people"... ehhhhhh... the Greeks owned slaves. Sparta included. Sparta only could really survive as a militarized culture because they had slaves propping up the economy. Persia had more equality and less slavery in this time period than Greece did.
Setting that aside though, the reality doesn't actually matter. The myth is what is important.
The myth about the few standing up to the many, the free against the enslavers; THAT IDEA is what is so important that we teach it to our children even if the story it is based on is a lie. So the reality of the situation doesn't actually matter. We make heroes out of the 300, so that the next generation learns to stand up for what is right, and that sometimes fighting and losing for a good cause, is the nobler than simply joining the crowd. Which is why it has lasted so long.
As the saying goes: Ancient history isn't real, but you have to believe it anyway.
@@Scarabswarm errr, so what your saying is...that the 300 were ok in fighting for their way of life, but the Spartans were wrong UN's for having slaves ..
Is that not a contradiction 🤔.
The army's that are great, but also the resistance that is hardly ever praised.
That's what I think my friend, you have to have a balanced view and it's what I try to do..
@@antonytheolddog8626 I'm saying that the 300 weren't fighting "for the freedom of all people" like you said, just *their* freedom (which included the freedom to own slaves).
But it's important that we treat the myth like it's real sometimes, so that children learn the important lesson within. As adults, we can discuss the nuance though, as it's important for adults to learn to identify propaganda.
Think of it like telling children about Santa. It's a useful myth, but if an adult believes it, or claims to believe it in the company of other adults, it's kinda creepy.
There are no good guys and bad guys in history, just everyone doing what they believe. But using those labels makes it easy to explain complicated things to children.
Get my meaning? The myth is more useful than the reality, but we shouldn't ignore the reality.
The battle scenes are THE BEST!!! I've rewinded multiple times just to watch them several times. They did so damn good! December 23, 2022, I'm going to watch it again before I go to sleep. I'm so glad y'all watched this. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I have for years. I loved watching y'alls reaction.
The Spartan that cut off that guys arm, later was Magneto in the X-Men