Sam & Max Save the World Remastered Censored Jokes vs Original Jokes Comparison
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2020
- Skunkape Games lied, they changed the game's jokes despite saying they wouldn't. and they lied again by saying that there was no censorship when clearly there is.
here the proofs of these changes and even joke cuts.
For those asking about Bosco's voice change, Skunkape Games admited that they change Bosco voice due to be a white actor doing a "stereotypical impression of an African American"
Confirming that the changes are due to political correctness.
It should be noted that they only admitted this after the game came out.
Source: store.steampowered.com/news/a...
please don't support censorship and political correctness - Hry
You forgot the one in chapter 5 when bosco says: “It’s ’cause everyone on the internet has to pick an avatar, like a dwarf or an orc or an hot young fifteen-year- old girl curious about the adult world and willing to experiment.” It now says “It’s cause everyone on the internet has to pick an avatar, like a dwarf or an orc or a troll… But we’ve got enough trolls.”
Yes, i forgot that joke. thanks for the comment.
If someone finds more changes and censored stuff let me know and i may do a second part
Who wrote that, Twitter?
I also recall a total line change in chapter 5, right after you get all of Max's parts back, when Max tells Sam that he learned an important lesson.
and that joke is probably the most relevant.
At least they changed it with another joke. Compare "It'll clear out a room of militant college students in no time, guaranteed." with "It'll clear out any room in no time, guaranteed" Seriously they didn't even try with that one.
Changed from "cowardly french anarchist" to "new-wave french anarchist." Developers are cowardly french anarchists confirmed.
tbf new-wave people ARE cowards so
@@thecoolnerdcolress1738 pretty much
thats what i was thinking AAUHHHAAHHAH THATS WHY WE NEED TO PLAY FORTNITE YAHOo oo o o :DDDDDd
They don’t want to offend French ppl but kept the cap gun is military strength line
@@thecoolnerdcolress1738 from one stereotype to another.
I'm surprised they left in Max calling the skinbodies belligerent nudists.
i'm surprised they left in Max at all. isn't it possible that little guy might... offend somebody!? for the love of god how could they have been so careless!? why take the chance, even? we should write some angry letters and force them to do a re-remaster where they remove this crude character.
I think they used the same voice lines from the original. It does not really seem like sam or max changed that much the support characters simply changed the context of there lines.
ill be honest: the jokes changed were fairly minor. like, very minor. the rub my unicorn bit was unchanged, the jokes about max being gay were unchanged, the camp of hugh bliss is completely unchanged.
the changes are so slight that to be honest, as someone who never played the originals before the remaster, the changes arent that bad.
@@supersmashbro596 I still like the remaster, it's just a lot of people don't like and support that they lied about censoring jokes in the remaster and how some of the jokes were ruined because of the change (i.e the skinhead joke). But that doesn't completely ruin the remaster, and I will admit that it was great that they included the original version. It's still good for new players, but if you don't support the new censorship, just stick with the original.
Isn't Max himself a nudist anyway, he doesn't wear any clothes at all.
The Sissypants change makes no sense because they still left in instances of Sam and Max calling him that in other lines, so what was the point?
If you're going to remove a joke, remove it all traces of it, otherwise it'll completely halfass.
I mean, the original jokes kinda sucked. Removing them doesn't change much for me. Edgy isn't always funny.
@@1234fakerstreet but that's the charm of Sam and Max games (at least it was a charm, apparently) - for being edgy and joking about racist and sexist themes. It's not a bad thing to remaster an old game and give it some polishing, but when developers don't like some jokes and "Bosco being voiceacted by not a black person", this is where it crosses the line. Devs also stated, that they are interested in more remasters, and this could only be a tip of a huge iceberg, where the whole scenes could be cutted, and I don't like this kind of "remasters", honestly.
@@vanivan5202 given the cost and time of the remaster to only have it receive massive backlash for a subpar joke doesn't really seem worth it from a developer point of view. They have a better chance of appealing to a new assiduous then trying to please the 30 year olds that might be interested in the remaster
@@1234fakerstreet ok bootlicker
I'm French and censoring Bosco's French name was just abysmal, do they really think we're afraid of the word "coward" and "sissypants"? Skunkape Games outdid themselves by managing to make me feel offended over censorship rather than the original joke, which didn't offend me to begin with.
When something is attempted to be censored, but it just indirectly makes it more offensive.
Reminds me of how the institution of slavery was portrayed in the Patriot...
Salut, qui monsieur or madame. It's like playing a game of kickball and fair is foul and foul is fair--why bother censoring bare-to-the-bones comic series when what makes funny is the satire?
@@TheMightyN Exactly. What made Sam & Max unique was it's humor, not its "gameplay". Removing what made it stand out from every other point & click is just gonna make it, well.... just another point & click. Hell, even if somebody else was french and got offended by the original joke, well who cares? The series is humoristic, if you can't take a joke when the entire SERIES premise is making jokes then maybe you'd think that it's just not for you. The fact that Skunkape Games went as far as to say that Sam & Max wouldn't make fun of anybody for what they can't help being when that's what they have always been doing really makes you think what kind of people are in charge of the series.
@@colorisialys Precisely, the point of comedy, it is a percolating piece of the material that should be allowed to provoke and challenge preconceptions and allow people to connect with each other. It's like having Coffee, but without the sugar. A sense about Comedy is supposed to leave you different than where it found you. For the most part, anyway--that's what Duckman says at least.
I assume because of the switch port, they babied everything and removed anything slightly vulgar
I love everything about the remaster... apart from EVERYTHING related to Bosco and the censorship around him
Yeah. Im not really liking the new voice.
The voice is fine to me, but I never played the original release.
The new guy is just fine, and you can tell because people who didn't play the original like the him and don't notice that he "doesn't fit in" or whatever.
A month later and now I’m starting to get use to his voice.
The updated visuals are great, the new voice actor is passable but the censorship just makes you wanna stay with original.
As of Feb 3 2021, Skunkape actually released the original game as free dlc for the remastered. Completely unchanged with boscos old voice actor and jokes, I think they heard us fellas! Good on them!
If they're going to insist being "PC" from now on, I hope that they continue releasing the original uncut dialogue in future seasons. That and actually direct new Boscoe to sound like a middle aged conspiracy nut in the streets of New York.
Beamdog did the same thing with Baldurs gate and also expected it to somehow make up for butchering a game and profiting off it. People who let them get away with this shit are part of the problem
@@Mr.ToadJanfu I agree. Nobody should make a profit off games. Especially not when it's something serious like Sam and Max.
@@Mr.ToadJanfu I mean Baldur failed because the game was shit.
Sam and Max is not a perfect solution, but it shows the devs listen to what the community said on the new dialogues
Is it on the Switch as well?
I just can't bring myself to like the new Bosco. He sounds too... sane, not paranoid enough.
Change the jokes if you must, but make sure the guy actually sounds like the haunted conspiracy nutcase he actually is!
I mean, he isnt that crazy though. Some of the shot he says is true compared to now days events
In Bosco's defense about being paranoid, a talking dog that's the same height as him, and a psychotic rabbit with sharp teeth and oversized head (reminds me of this terrible time at the Cave of Carbanog), maybe his paranoia is appropriate
The Momsco sounds sane, and has no heart in the acting.
While the original was exaggerated massively and has Bosco convincingly paranoid
@@elizabeth5561 Exactly.
He also has a fucking awful mic
So someone released a mod on gamebanana that restored the audio to the original for the remaster. Three cheers for a restored Bosco.
God bless modders.
That's cool. The New voice actor for Bosco, isn't all that good. Plus the censorship is less funny
I know I'm 9 months to late to reply but do you havea link to that mod ?
finally, the unnaturally photogenic line but better
@@santocuban7086 censorship is never funny its always cringe
Not gonna lie, Bosco just doesn't sound right and the jokes don't make sense. I'd rather play the original, you don't play Sam and Max for the graphics anyway.
Yeah the graphics in the first season look fine
Yup! comedy should provoke like this in this game and we want that.
Im disappointed by the censorship, but not surprised since they have a Twitter. And the new VA is passible, but they should give him a much better direction for him on season 2 cuz most of his delivery sounds kind of “weak”.
exactly
They didn't even picn the right actor for the job. My SJW brain requires a man with purple skin!!!!
The "Drug dealer" joke wasn't censored, it was an accident. It was fixed with a recent update
Well at least it got changed to something similar. Arms Dealer is kinda the same joke wise, I think.
@@akwardsheep1474 My guy got a promotion
@@Medik2 ya. went from selling middle schoolers Oregano. and moved up to selling highschoolers "bully deterrents" >.
@@MrOrdosan "You can always rely on your friendly neighborhood arms dealer."
Tbh I think being an arms dealer is worse. But just my opinion
this is the strangest part of the remaster...like everything else was left in tact and even touched up but they not only changed bosco’s voice,they censored the jokes with it which feels odd coming from Sam and Max specifically
Yea, it's kinda wierd. It's not the worst thing ever, but it feels wierd for Sam and Max with the style of black humor it had.
@@trnkabarfilm exactly,not a dealbreaker by any means but it feels a bit out of place which is kinda odd to say something in Sam and Max is “out of place” given how nonsensical this series can be
I think it's because twitter exists, if they kept them someone there would get offended and cancel them ://
@@peach_s0up I get what you mean,although I’m sure you can say that about pretty much anything
@@xxgoldmansionxx True, true :P If only the older game had better graphics..
Sam: I remember that game from our insecure, politically incorrect phase.
Floating head Max: Oh yeah. When did that end exactly?
Sam: I’ll let you know when it does.
Can’t wait to see what they do with that line now.
Sam: I remember that game from our controversial politically correct censorship.
Max: Oh yeah. When did that end exactly?
Sam: I’ll let you know when it does.
Glad that modders have restored most of the original lines and Bosco's original voice actor. It's a shame too - the remaster is generally fantastic. But they meddled with so many things that didn't need to be changed. And Bosco's original voice actor, who is still doing plenty of voice acting work, sounds fucking hilarious. The new guy isn't bad, but he doesn't capture the frantic energy of the original.
I’m wondering why in the first place they removed the militant college students line in the first place, given events over the past few years makes it feel like it fits better than before.
Because these woke companies do not understand dark humor.
Because they don't want these same people sending them death threats and trying to burn down their places of work.
@@WaspCameraInSpringfield don't believe the media/ it's blown out of proportion/it's a hoax
@@maximus4765 i'm part of that demographic and I loved that joke.
When I first saw news of "some jokes didn't age well so we changed them" I would've expected them to be much worse than this. It can be alright to change old dialogue SOMETIMES... but these should've been left untouched.
...except the sex change line. The bit about him being sassy in the mom disguise should've stayed, but... not that part.
It might be related to China! And we don't want to lose their money by being banned!
The French Disguise!Bosco's name change was the dumbest since Sam and Max's dialog was kept. Meaning they still called him Sissypants for no reason.
Holy shit I cannot believe the Version!Character indicator is still a thing. That's some OLLLDDD fandom lingo right there.
@@Carbon8tion it's still used in the fire emblem community, especially with the selectable male/female protags
Seen it around other places too, took me a while to figure out what it meant.
it never fucking left bro it’s been here all this time, it was already here
@@Carbon8tion it’s used very often on archive of our own
@@Carbon8tion i use it in my writing since i use ocs for multiple stories at once and they go through different character development. I guess i have been using it for almost 10 years now lol.
The new Bosco voice lacks so much emotion in his tone to the point where it sounds like the new actor isnt even trying
the new actor is white
@@lordomega9959 No, the old actor was a white man doing his best impersonation of a paranoid black man. That's why they changed VAs in the first place.
@@he_who_sits didnt they do that for cleveland brown? ITS JUST A CHARECTERRRRR (im black btw)
@@deltafuze8656 I am too but you know how or BS society is nowadays: if our character’s Black, and you’re not black, than you’re not getting the job. Even if you’ve voiced the character for so long!
Bloody Black Lives Matter influencers…😒
@@keijijohnson9754 its funny bc its white people getting offended for black people even tho we arent offended in the first place...smh
you may want to add yet another censorship.. At the end of chapter 6 (on the credits scene) the TV director pulls off a luger (max style) in the remake she just stands there, making the scene totally senseless, if anything they made it worse lol..
Honestly of all the censorships thats the most confusing. They're all hypnotized to be like max so they are using his animations right
Apparently that was actually an error that has since been fixed. Not sure if it's made its way to the Switch version yet, but PC should have the gun now.
Isn't the game rated M? Why was a gun the problem? Why were most of these a problem?
@@koichidignitythief7429 Rated T, actually
Why? Why change Bosco!? He was a conspiracy theorist. You're not supposed to take him seriously. Honestly, what I miss most is the way he said "Mmm-Hm." As Mama Bosco, the new one just doesn't hit the same.
I mean violent college militias is actually quite comparable to ANTIFA so I'd say he isnt far off.
Probably because he's no longer a conspiracy theorist, all the conspiracy theories he had turned into facts.
Recent years have demonstrated that conspiracy theorists should be taken more seriously lol
@@BlueisNotaWarmColour : Recent years have demonstrated nothing. They just got even more creative with their stories, but none of them have been actually proven to be true.
@@OMA2k remember when COVID coming from a lab was a conspiracy theory? (A racist one) Remember when Epstein island was a conspiracy theory? (An antisemitic one) Remember when abortion at nine months was a conspiracy theory? (A sexist one) Remember when the vax giving people myocarditis was a conspiracy theory? (Just a normal kooky one) I mean how many conspiracy theories were there surrounding the World Economic Forum before they started uploading videos of themselves openly discussing this stuff? Shit, I remember when student loan forgiveness and reparations and men competing in women's athletics were all crazy right-wing slippery slope fallacies 🤪
its weird that they removed so many jokes specifically from Bosco. Makes me think if the original lines gave trouble finding a new voice actor for him.
That's because most VAs are on twitter and twitter is cancer.
@@deezboyeed6764 cry harder bro
@@Ermwhothefart I think saddest part in all of this is you like twitter
@@deezboyeed6764 never said I liked it but imagine hating an entire platform that millions of people use just because of a few thousand.
@@deezboyeed6764 Bro you assumed that he liked Twitter because of one response that’s literally a Twitter move.
Actually, they put the DRG DLR plate back on the car. Apparently there was a small hiccup with the texture upscaling, and since then they've changed it back.
why dont they change the va back seriously theyll make more sells if they do that
The only problem I have with the new bosco voice is, that the delivery doesn't match the facial expressions that well anymore
I wish they had just given us the uncompressed audio so that modders could do what they didn't
I get why they changed the voice, but at the very least, couldn't they have picked a voice actor with a deep voice to match the original one?
...I wonder if the voice actor for Coach from L4D2 would've worked?
COACH IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO!! like i'm all for the recast since the original was a white dude doing a caricature of a stereotypical black man, but they couldve at least cast someone. better than this lol
@@jazzmuppet9230jeez, snowflake 🙄
I nearly lost my trachea just imagining!
As a "Special needs children" myself, I thought the joke at 3:09 was very very funny. I can kind of see why they would change it, but I'm autistic and I loved the original joke... The worst part is that they lied about having them...
Same here.
What the hell happened to Bosco's voice?
They changed voice actors after the original (Joey Camen) got in some controversy over doing heavy stereotypes of black voices since he is white
@@gameboy1up625 Oh for God’s sake. “Boo-hoo!” An actor is doing his job and mimicking voices!” Notice how nobody complained when a black guy voiced Samurai Jack.
I probably wouldn't mind so much if the new guy didn't sound like a teenager who always got cast as "background extra with no dialogue" in drama class.
@@goojo173 now that you mention it . Michael Scarn is voice by a black guy also in “Treat Level Midnight”
@@theexaltedlt8222 I don’t see how Bosco’s voice is an offensive black stereotype because (let’s call a spade a spade) there are black people that sound like that. I don’t see how it’s offensive. If it’s a cartoon, expect exaggeration. Samurai Jack’s voice is equally as “offensive” it’s that monotone, accented Japanese samurai voice. It’s a stereotype. It’s equally as “offensive” for the same reasons. Simply having characters with accents or speech patterns that exaggerate their respective ethnic group’s traits in a cartoon isn’t inherently racist. Punch-Out for the Wii does the same and that’s not racist. Nothing in Bosco’s character is making a negative statement about black people. He just has a silly voice in the same way Sam, Max, Lincoln, Grandpa Stinky, and others have funny voices. So, to me, it’s more offensive to fire the original actor simply on the basis that it’s not politically correct to have a Jew voice a black person. Especially because the new actor is nowhere near as funny as the old one (not because of stereotypical voices, but because the new performance is just plain worse).
Fun fact, in polish version, "Bosco" sounds like "bosko", which literally means "divinely" but is commonly used as "awesome/swell/poggers", so the translators decided to make a joke, and named his shop "Bosko u Bosco", which in pronunciation sounds like "Swell At Swell", "Awesome At Awesome", "Poggers At Poggers", pick your favourite 😂
poggers at poggers
ALSO WHY IS POGGERS CONSIDERED AN ACTUAL NORMAL WORD NOW
@@inks_msm I learned its meaning from this post. I don't talk like that but hey, I'm 40. Language always changes, and slang is generally fun. It changed when I was young, and it'll still be changing when these guys using "poggers" are old.
@@Torthrodhel
I wonder what the new thing'll be.
@@festethephule7553 I don't know but I'm hoping for made-up-on-the-spot unexplained cockney rhyming slang. That's my favourite, you absolute shotput set of lace-ups.
Bez kitu tak jest XD
They've since patched out the "RMS DLR" one back to "DRG DLR", as well as added "How's them Bosco Tech breasts holding up" back.
Everything else is still changed
The new voice sounds so hoarse. Give this man a cup of warm tea or something.
Tell him to be more energetic while theyre at it....
It is a shame that the jokes are less funny, but i'm just so glad to see Sam and Max get attention
Yeah, and on the bright side, it was just a few jokes.
@@akwardsheep1474 Yeah, this is relatively minor. Oh well, gotta take what we can get!
@@kyyuchkikju3419 That's not even what it's about but okay. You just keep battling hate and intolerance with more hate and intolerance and let me know how that works out for ya.
@@kyyuchkikju3419 I wasn't talking about the game, genius. I was talking about your cis remark. Boy you sure are a miserable fella. I don't envy you.
@@kyyuchkikju3419 this game shits on everyone not because the writers hate everyone but because it's funny and this game is satire
The new bosco just sounds sadder, are you okay buddy?
He's sadder because the man finally broke him.
Looks like people didn't get that the unfiltered crude humour made it special, now it's one more in the sea of "safe-products"
cause those 4 jokes were the only crude humopr in this many hours long game...yet those 4 jokes were the only reason people played this game...
What made Sam & Max special was its clever and unconventional wordplay. "Unfiltered crude humor" isn't at all special, and if you want it so bad look to literally any adult animated show ever made for your fix. In fact, given that this is a game for older teens and adults, making it raunchy would make it more "safe" and blending into products with a similar demographic than as is.
@@victoriapulcifer6218 You sound like a mom trying to convince her kids that skateboarding with a helmet on is actually totally cool and hip!!!!
@@blat9024 And you sound like a brat who can't *actually* counter the arguments of smart people, forcing you to resort to belittling me based on how uncool I seem rather than countering what I'm actually saying.
@@victoriapulcifer6218 lmaooooo no no it's cool dude go enjoy your safe milquetoast corporate video game. you've earned it after making me laugh so hard
The reason i didnt buy the remake wasnt because stuff was censored (although it would have been the main reason) it was because they went out of their way to promise that NOTHING would be censored from the original but they just lied in front of everybody's faces
New Bosco sounds more like a white guy trying to sound like a black guy than original Bosco ever did.
The new voice sounds like he isn’t even trying. Like, how did he get a job?
The voice of Bosco just doesn't sound like a big paranoid black dude, sounds younger
The original sounds like a black guy but the remastersounds like the same guy putting on a friendly voice to talk to a kid
I can understand why they changed the voiceactor for Bosco, and he does a suitable job doing the part- but the problem is that there wasn't enough pizzazz in his voice- his deliveries weren't as enthusiastic, it seems.
honestly feels like the new bosco va had poor direction more than anything else
No one would be offended by Bosco being voiced by a white guy if someone else hadn't put the idea in their head that it was disrespectful. This is why PC culture is so destructive.
@@Dennis-nc3vw No
@@johnhalo8726 No
@@Dennis-nc3vw As a black fan of Sam and Max since I first played HTR at the age of 5: bullshit.
As soon as I heard Bosco's voice in the original I groaned and said "Of course they didnt hire a black guy to play the black guy."
So happy that in games and animation in general characters of color are being played by people of color.
The VO wasnt the best, but at least I don't groan everytime I have to talk to Bosco now.
They included the original uncensored 2007 version of "Sam & Max Save The World" as free DLC, so it's not a total bummer, but it's really stupid that they censored it with the remastered if they were gonna include the uncensored version anyway. *in Jason Alexander voice: I mean, come on! They're jokes for crying out loud!
as long as both r options i dont rly mind more options is always a gppd thing imo
Is it on the Switch too?
@@wyguy_figs2943 the remastered version? It’s probably on the Switch
Is the original version available on Switch?
@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 Of course not. The original was never made for the Switch (not even the Wii U, PS4 or Xbox One existed back then!), so for the Switch only the new version is available. But just for a few cut lines, of which you can hear them ALL in this video, it's not worth worrying about.
Bosco's personas are "supposed" to be offensive. This is what happens when you have a bad actor playing a bad actor. 😣
Bosco should have a more gruff voice, deep. Like he smokes two cigarettes at a time.
It's not that he's a bad actor (isn't he the guy who voices Miles?) it's that he's both a terrible choice for the role and given terrible direction.
Honestly Bosco was perfect as is, the problem here is the overly PC people who think actors shouldn't be able to Voice characters outside their race (which in itself is a far more racist notion)
@@_-Lx-_ I mean, the point is typically more along the lines of "White people need to stop acting like they're owed the chance to play someone from literally any region of the planet."
@@spinyjustspiny3289
But some overly PC people are over compensating and acting like white people shouldn't be allowed to voice X race character.
HotDiggityDemon made a good point In his essay about Apu from the Simpsons, he mentioned how characters like Mario is an Italian Stereotype voiced by a French man yet he's Italian and loves Mario, he also had a consise point where he said one of the wonderful things about voice work is anyone (for the most part) can become a fictional character who isn't necessarily anything like their IRL form, and that telling someone "you can't voice X because you're Y" is actually extremely racist/sexist.
The industry definitely needs to open up and make space for more minority actors, but a lot of people are taking the wrong approach and are actually being far more insensitive than those they're calling out.
@@_-Lx-_ So first off, Italians in media have had little else but tremendously positive impact and representation, from actors to filmmakers, and most crucially to this puzzle, were not also subjected to hundreds of years of genocidal persecution and slavery, which included refusing to even let people of color play people like them in productions. Even on the rare chance they did get a role, there was a stint of time where they couldn't even go see their own damn movie they starred in because the theater was marked "Whites only". Context matters and pretending it doesn't is what gets you shit like this.
Second, You know where else you can pretend to be born in another part of the world? Your imagination. And you can do that not only without much extensive reading or training because no one is gonna actually be offended by shit you got wrong in your head, but you'll do it without taking roles from people from that background.
And finally, HDD is not a good arbiter on what should or shouldn't be offensive, because he himself has a history of using bigoted caricatures for sheer shock value, then acting as if the negative reception wasn't literally exactly what he wanted because the reactions are what's funny to him rather than the caricatures. He's a grifter who uses his web animation pedigree to maintain a following rather than actually having anything valuable to say, and his end-goal is to have a space where he doesn't have to suffer the social ramifications of being a piece of shit at best, and at worst wants a participation trophy for being a piece of shit.
the jokes fall very flat and confusing when censored. congrats this is 2020 people.
Ha ha funny anti-sjw go brrrrrrr
Damn man, we can't have SHIT anymore cause people are just hellbent of destroying everything we loved before.
Take me back to the 2000's already! Arguably the last decent years on this planet before everything went to shit around the mid-2010's. Maybe I am being a bit overdramatic about all of this but anyways *FUCK FACEBOOK AND FUCK TWITTER!*
@@otakunthevegan4206 If hating censorship makes us anti-woke fascists then call me Hitler. 😅
@@oldoutlet6946 They removed like 5 jokes from the remaster of the IP they now own, and kept the originals on steam.
You can just "pull yourself up by your boot strings" and buy the IP yourself.
@@otakunthevegan4206 It's more than 5 but even if it was just 2, it's also the fact they lied about censorship that we take issue with. If it really isn't that big of a deal they would have been up front with us instead of being vague about their reasonings and changes.
While many of these were intentional rewrites, a few were actually errors in the initial release that have since been fixed. These include:
- DRG DLR license plate being mistakenly replaced
- The Director not pulling out a gun in the credits sequence (not shown in the video, but mentioned in the comments)
- The missing conversation with Bosco in Episode 6
- Sam and Max still calling Bosco "Sissypants", defeating the whole point of Bosco's line change.
They've also re-done some of Bosco's earlier lines in Episode 1 in an attempt to make him sound closer to what people expected, after listening to feedback. At the time of writing this, these changes have all been made to the PC version, and I believe have been sent off to be added to the Switch version.
I also remember on episode 1, when we go to Sybil for the APD dream test, there is no option for 'wanting to marry one's mother" option is gone... that really make me sad.
The APD test is actually randomized each time you play. That particular symptom might not have shown up on your playthough, but should still have a chance to appear.
I got the marry one's own mother option in the remaster, it's definitely still there.
I got that option in my playthough of the remaster.
The stupidest thing is that people wouldn't have actually been all that upset with these jokes. They are remarkably tame and in reality most people aren't as sensitive as the loud minority makes it appear. Most people however can get on board the hate train when it concerns issues of censorship and false advertisement. This upset more people then any mild-mannered, background joke alluding to the fact that drug dealers exist would have.
Arms dealer is more relevant
"Can't have it say 'drug dealer', let's make it say 'arms dealer' instead, that's much more humane."
1. They changed the jokes just because they, the AUTHORS and DEVELOPERS of this game, liked them changed and have every right to make THEIR GAME like they want. No one pressured them to do it nor did they do it to appease any crowd.
2. The "RMS DLR" problem was just a bug (it was a license plate from another car) and they fixed it so now it still says "DRG DLR".
The new jokes are extremely dull, but the old one's aren't too great either. The skinhead one I don't see why they changed, and the Bosco's mom conversation didn't seem like it was going into anything super offensive. If this is all that was "censored" then I don't see too much of a reason to hate the remaster. The Devs lying about censorship does suck though, if they had told the truth, I don't think these changes would have nearly as much hate as they do.
Agreed. They didn't need to try and trick us. Most if not all people who got it now probably would have still bought it regardless, if with a slight eye roll. The changes truly aren't that massive.
Why is the mention of special needs children removed in the first place?
Because everyone is too sensitive now
True, but people are angry they removed it in the first place, it’s a lose-lose scenario
Evidently, the existence of special needs children is offensive
Maybe because society is starting to learn that not all people with disabilities operate on the same wavelength. I’m diagnosed with autism, and I’m able to function just fine.
@@Cure_Hana You’re right, but that still doesn’t make the joke offensive enough to be removed. It’s a joke, for God’s sake. It’s not some serious take on how society sees disabled people.
2:05 Sam smacked Max into the air XD
Wow I just heard about the remaster recently but I had no idea they would rewrite/remove jokes, also like everyone is saying the new Bosco voice actor is terrible compared to the older one.
In my opinion, regarding the remaster, they could've just hire someone that sounds like bosco's original voice in the remaster. Like Phil Lamarr for example. Or they could just give the option to switch between bosco's original or remastered voice. Other than that, I've enjoyed the remaster.
Just finished playing the remastered version today ((over the course of a week)) and based off of this video, they apparently added back the "How's life as a woman?" to Bosco's dialogue tree with all the old dialogue and everything. Besides that, everything else was censored.
Bosco was censored by T-H-E-M
The government? Aliens? Sam and Max? …France?
It's like someone looked at the format of how jokes are written -- "setup, punchline" --- and decided to replace it with "setup, comedy to be determined later."
I was curious and I legit thought it was going to be more. I think some of the jokes that were changed were kind of silly. For example, the "clears out a room of protestors" seems to me to be poking fun at the militarized police force and I was okay with it. Other original jokes I liked less and get the change but it honestly doesn't bother me either way. Like, I don't think there was a big demand to change the jokes and I don't think there would have been a controversy if they hadn't so it's just a personal choice. Anyone going off about SJWs or whatever is being very silly imo.
At first I could see the complaints but playing through 4 of the episodes, his new voice actor really has grown on me honestly.
Maybe the worst part is the recording sounds a lot more crisp then the older lines (though there is also some inconstancy with the older lines quality, like sometimes Sam has a lot more bass in his voice).
The remasters visual changes are amazing looking (especially with the mood lighting during some of the more dramatic scenes), the 1% of lines changes were not that funny or central to the plot to begin with (and some edits you mentioned were errors that were fixed, not censorship), some scenes got more animation, and everything else.
There is way to much good about these remasters for this to bother me at all.
Something just feels really weird about a Sam & Max game trying to be politically correct.
Aren't Sam & Max all about irreverence? You know, living in a world where nothing really matters, where the protagonists are violent for the fun of it, where nothing is sacred, where everything and everyone is casually mocked equally, where a thick blanket of crudeness, sarcasm, cynicism and biting satire coats every moment? So I dunno if Sam & Max is the right franchise for people who get easily offended.
Also, how ironic is it that they didn't want to have an actor doing a "stereotypical impression of an African American" for a character.... but the character itself is still doing stereotypical impressions of british people, french people, and russian people.
I guess it's fine to mock THOSE people.
it is actually xD i'm all for it
@@1gbtrights change some jokes because humour changes when time passes and not everyone can take the same joke = politically correct
And i meean it isnt different to make a stereotypical impression of a black person to make and stereotypical impression of people who lives on some countries like french people or british people
Nowadays doing an impression of a black person in the stereotypical way is considered racist instead of using stereotypes of countries ykow
They've added the original 2006-2007 release as free DLC on Steam and GOG two days ago in case anyone is wondering.
Honestly I'm just glad we got a remaster in the first place. If you go onto Skunape's website and head to the f.a.q. you'll see that they had to change some of the jokes as they wouldn't slide now. While some may not like what they did to the game, they really are just doing what they can with the series.
Adding to what I said, the jokes that were changed were either insensitive or offensive to audiences who are trans, have special needs, school shooting victims, whatever the heck a skinhead is, and just other groups. The only joke I don't understand them censoring was the drug dealer license plate. As a teen game, it wouldn't really change the rating and would most likely just get a chuckle from somebody seeing it and not a twit longer on why the game should be taken down.
@@toityle I kinda get the censoring the trans joke. But making fun of skinheads is just funny . Also did they make joke about school shootings? I thought the college student joke was about college student demonstrations.
@@trnkabarfilm Yeah it was the tear gas grenade launcher joke. They said that it could clear out a classroom.
@@toityle who gives a shit about people being too sensitive? the whole point of sam and max was to be edgy.
@@ToxicBrainSludge If the point of the game was to be edgy they might as well put in a thrash metal soundtrack. The point of the game is entertainment. It's a comedy adventure game, not to be the next Shadow the Hedgehog game
I prefer the edgy humor of the original 10 times over the utterly castrated jokes the remake has.
Ignoring the censorship for a moment, another problem with Bosco's new voice acting is that the new recorded line for Bosco clash really hard with the old takes for some reason, it's like they don't fit the flow of the original it kinda breaks the comedic timing '(that is, when they try to tell a joke and not just remove the joke that was in there in the first place)
0:22 Max’s voice sounded a lot less squeakier in the original
3:48 ouch
4:33 but Max, you don’t even like girls
He doesn't?
@@sgtguy1 Sam says this in one of the original comics
@@SuperNinjaFat I think they're playing off of Max's response whenever Sam tells him that
"I don't?"
Hey to all of the antagonistic people saying “it’s only five minutes, y’all are just losers” people don’t care about quantity. It’s the principle of censoring a series like this that people are taking issue with.
it's their own game, they can do what they want with it. If you want the classic version, get the oldschool versions. Just like the original star wars trilogy... except lets not make it an insane never ending hate train, like star wars.
@@MakoSucks that’s an apple to oranges comparison which people disliked for different reasons.
@@naniwo4438 George Lucas literally changed Han Solo's first kill in the movie from murder to self defense, to make him more heroic and kid friendly. It's the same shit. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
@@MakoSucks people found more issues than that 1 issue you can find all around CZcams. So no, not really the same. But whatever, let’s just end it there.
@@naniwo4438 ... but you just said people disliked it for different reasons, now you say besides that similar reason, they are different... ok? That's why I said lets not turn it into star wars lol
I understand why they did this, but most of the original jokes seemed really harmless.
I think "Why the Sex Change?" was the only one where I was like "Yeah, that's fair." The SissyPants one I sort of understand too, but everything else was too silly to take serious.
I would have apprieciated a prompt when you begin playing that's like "Some of these jokes have aged poorly. Do you want them removed in your playthrough?" That way, everyone wins.
I think the tear gas one too is probably a bit too much considering recent events (even though I did find it funny). I agree with ya on the Sex-Change one too.
Fuck censorship
@@degenerate2281 what too much? Go play a rated e game.
@@jimmy-rm3clhis username IS degenerate, so go figure
The new guy sounds like a shitty Chris rock impersonation
About as funny as Chris Rock too
it doesn't even sound like a chris rock impersonation. chris rock's voice has actual character to it. i don't even like chris rock but his voice is very distinct. this new voice sounds like a wet sponge. it has no character, it's just a completely generic voice that not only sounds generic, but the performance is also awful. the original bosco was probably the best part of the whole game. i loved going into his store and seeing what he was up to next and the voice actor made it work.
@@ToxicBrainSludge The average Bosco enjoyer. < The Sybil enthusiast.
Tbh, I enjoy Bosco more now because it just rubbed me the wrong way that a white guy was doing an impression of a black guy in the original.
That itch in my brain is now gone when I play the Remaster.
He sounds nothing like Chris Rock, lmfao.
@@ZigealFaust im glad they hired a black voice actor but he doesn't have anywhere near the same delivery as the old bosco in any of these clips. also as a trans person, the censorship in the momma bosco scene makes me feel like the developers did it "just in case" and don't have any clue what trans people actually find offensive
2:02 Max just walking, Sam: YEEEEET
Its even funnier when you imagine that with the original "yeet" sound
really wish they had just had a content warning for these things instead of censoring them if they were so worried people would be upset, sam and max is one of the only game series I've seen that makes "offensive humor" really work, that's like half of its charm
offensive humor always works you just have to be a man and not a little girl
The arms dealer joke is honestly more relevant nowadays
Ok but "Jean François Sissypants" made me die of laughter, i'm french
If you have to censor Sam and max, you don’t understand what makes them work.
I know nothing about this series, but the algorithm keeps sending me videos.
Why did the rabbit guy get sent into the stratosphere at 2:04?
Im going to be honest the remaster doesnt even look much better graphic wise so why in the unholy name of Nyarlathotep would anyone buy it given the censorship?
Someone should just make more offensive version and just sell it online with or without the permission
Nah, the remaster looks amazing, I can see why you’d buy it. The lighting looks fluid, The shading doesn’t make them look sickly... I could go on but honestly it’s good shit
Na, the lighting in the remastered looks so better... I feel like the original game was set to its highest settings, while the remaster was set to its lowest
My sister bought it on Switch recently and I've compared the two... Yes, the lighting is better...
This is more of a game where I'm watching the original clips and wondering "what could they censor and why"
Is it just me or do the re-recorded lines sound different quality wise? Like even if you didn't play the originals, the quality difference between Remaster Bosco's lines and Sam & Max's lines seems really noticable.
tbh i usually dont make censorship in remasters but i hate the va change, plus the fact that the company kept saying that no dialogue was changed
okay, as someone who's honestly willing to advocate for a few of these changes, I couldn't agree more with the last point. Change dialogue or not, it's their game and thus their choice, but don't make false promises to fans just to sell a game.
@@fraidybat123 i get people who feel lied to about the dialogue changes bc they have been and the company had no reason when all they couldve said was that they were changing a few lines, but then people act so entitled about it saying that absolutely no game company ever can change the og game
To be honest different jokes or their absence aren't that much of a problem. But Bosco's voice is way worse.
Yes it is a problem
Not even different jokes dude, just not jokes at all anymore.
I find both to be a problem because when you look at it the developer promised that the jokes would remain untouched... In fact, the only thing that was promised was that timing would get better in the remastered version, but obviously, that was a lie. And yes, I prefer the "Bosco from A-Team but just more paranoid" approach to his voice than whatever teenage crap they had going on with him. Overall, the real reason why Bosco exists is ruined...
This is why classics are better and funnier
Man, society wasn’t ready for sam and max back in the day and now they must turn them into marshmallow humor
I feel ya. And to add insult to injury they lied about the censorship too.
I'm surprised they didn't recast sam and max's voice actors for a dog and a rabbit to avoid how speciest it would be to have a human play both sam and max.
What a sensitive world we live in right now. In what world is a white man voicing a poc offensive? I thought we were AGAINST segregation.
Man if John Witherspoon hadn't had Heart Attack in 2019, you could cast for the next Sam & Max game as Bosco.
I hate censorship
We all do.
I hate discrimination
I hate the French
Virtue signal ngl
@@dodgyhodgyo4 Yeah, "I hate the French"? You're TOTALLY virtue signalling right now.
"militant college students" was removed
that bothers me
No matter what, Sam and Max is a fucking masterpiece.
Wow, I didn't know this remake was a thing at all. Thanks!
I'm fine with the censors but I gotta: They really dropped the ball with Bosco's voice actor
I prefer Bosco's old voice, but the new one is good enough for me.
One point of order, the car that spawns in front of Sam and Max's car seems to have the plate change by the chapter, because I did see one that read "DRG DLR" quite a few times.
they did my man bosco dirty in this remake
Thank goodness this is on PC! There's a chance fans can mod back in certain voice lines and uncensor the remastered version.
Granted I have no idea if it's even possible but I've seen modders do such impossible things before, so I wouldn't be surprised!
1:45-2:10 that's actually really interesting; idk if it's part of a patch or something, but I just booted up the remaster yesterday, and this car still said "DRG DLR", on the license plate. Caught me off guard (since I'd never played the original), and made me laugh my ass off XD
thank you for documenting this
Actually, I think these changes aren't bad. Like, the reality 2.0 goggles joke is now more funny imo: it shows that the c.o.p.s only really care about how the players are within reality 2.0, regardless of actual safety in the real world, by promoting using VR on a bike or while playing sports (presumably like rugby or american football) - also the original 'special needs children' makes no sense - there's no link between having any form of ASD/learning difficulty and having a wider skull? Or further apart eyes?
They said special needs, not autism. Are you implying that people DO think that about us?
Also, having extremely far apart eyes technicaly would count as a learning difficulty, you wouldn't be able to use a view master...
Yeah I think I’ll just stick to the originals.
It's due to the fact that they cannot get away with saying what they originally said, so they had to modify the jokes/gags a bit like the one about an avatar where it's a dwarf, an orc, a troll or a "15 year old" since that's more towards pushing the envelope too far.
Wait, what was wrong with Sissypants when Bosco used the French disguise? And half of the things Bosco said anyways?
Ok, the Skinbodies explanation I get, because Skinheads means someone who's into being a Neo Nazi or something, so that's alright...! I also didn't notice the license plate change! ^^;
Ohhh, and the "Disabled Kids" wording....Yeah.....
Yeesh! I had such a fun time playing the remaster, I didn't even noticed half of the changes except the Sissypants name change!
2:05 Are we gonna ignore the fact Sam slapped max into the next dimension-
I don’t think this is *all* bad. the “militant college students” one I don’t get so I won’t comment on it, the French one I don’t understand why they changed it, and the goggles one I think both versions of the joke weren’t the best (I personally would’ve gone for “Goggles designed for children with hideously oversized heads”, overly specific jokes are great). The only one I think changed for the better is the mother one, the original almost made me physically cringe. I know Sam and Max is dark, but that one was incredibly yikes.
I'm laughing so hard rn it's been so long I missed the cartoons when I was little aw man
That's really dumb that they changed it to cats
Seems like The creators couldn't decide whether Bosco is black or white, so he's pretty much both.
"black" "white"
I don't get all of these colors being thrown around for Bosco. He's always looked like more of a light purple-y color to me.
The original is more interesting to look at. The artstyle is intentionally grungy and the camera angles are more dynamic. The remaster looks cleaner and more generic.
the remastered version just has so much more emotion aaaaaaa
The Bosco lines might have been changed due to the new voice actor.
That’s not really an excuse.
I honestly prefer the original graphics
It didn't look as weird..