Going Undercover With Neo-Nazis | Aaron Bastani Meets Julia Ebner
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2023
- Since 2016 we’ve seen mainstream politics has taken a turn for the weird, epitomised by the surprise success of populist projects like Brexit and the election of Donald Trump. And fringe views have continued to muscle into the middle ground, with conspiracy theories and far-right talking points trickling into political discourse.
Julia Ebner has been charting this shift through her undercover work for years, infiltrating neo-Nazis, jihadists and Covid-sceptics to find out how ideas spread, as detailed in her books Going Dark and, most recently, Going Mainstream.
She joins Aaron to talk about how sceptics become extremists, the prospect of a “digital middle ages” where facts no longer matter, and what it was like to be on the receiving end of Tommy Robinson’s hate campaign.
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Stop having such amazing guests on, I only have so many bookshelves!
This was really interesting and insightful. Great content as always.
As a librarian and bookworm, from a working class background. You can never have too many bookshelves. An older Librarian said to me, its not the book in a big library you've been told you should read. It might be the dusty one next to it. You never no what you might find, and make your own mind up. Don't be spoon fed. That stuck with me.
Centre ground politics. I'm instinctively wary of. I remember the late Tony Benn prophetic warnings about it being a gateway drug for reactionary views and how it is not progressive at all. In fact, can be very dangerous. Cloaked in reasonableness, fairness & respectability. Plenty of examples throughout history, when centrism, has ended up smothering reasoned dissenting voices, true democratic processes and debate. Labour was once lauded as the party of protest. We seem to have no home for the disaffected and disadvantaged other than centrism, economic liberalism or the likes of Mr Tate, and Mr Trump right now. Scary.
Centrists have always tended to support the far right, even if they don't agree with the ideology in its entirety, until it's far too late.
The problem is that centrist politics supports the maintenance of the status-quo, i.e. it is a fundamentally conservative political stance, irrespective of the fact that the actual Conservative Party is positioned to the right of centre. Therefore, Labour centrists like Blair and now Starmer, are, in effect, advocating a conservative standpoint on most issues.
Hi Suzanne - I take it then you took Benn's position on the EU and voted to Leave?
@@tancreddehauteville764Blair wasn't a centrist my friend. he was a big State authoritarian much like what Novara believe in.
@@stewie7338 I thought the whole thing was a hoodwink, and I wrote it so across the ballot paper.
A very brave woman. 👍
some would claim, completely bonkers. :)
Absolutely - she should be given a medal????? for bravery, reminds of the woman spy Veronica ? in WW2
@@darcyroyce only really 'horrible' 'narrow-minded' robots? would
@@muireann9763 I agree. :)
Bless her heart (in a christian atheist sort of way ;)
' Digital middle ages ' That's a great way to describe how adult people can claim the most ridiculous conspiracy nonsense with a straight face because they watched something online. .And have tens of thousands of people agreeing .
People are at least as gullible regarding corporate media reporting, especially re: geopolitics or anything that threatens the domestic status quo
@@WarrenPeaceOG Hi Warren - agreed. However as this was mentioned here i.e. Covid here is an acid test for you. At the start the Government told you its pandemic preparedness plan which took 7yrs to compile i.e. in short herd immunity. They also gave the science why masks did not and could never work against an aerosol based virus. We were then told the exact opposite. Those that challenged the narrative were branded as tinfoil hat merchants, conspiracy theorists etc when in fact these were the critical thinkers. What did you do my friend?
@@WarrenPeaceOG Corporate media is very rarely an outright lie though. It is spun a certain way, and you have to be smart to challenge the framing of it. But the conspiracy theories are usually not only false but impossible.
@@valq10 I think there's a lot more outright lies. We seem to disagree on degree. Example: official Venezuela stories are a complete inversion of reality. Also, I've seen Guardian examples where it says, Corbyn said "We must X, Y and Z" and if you click the link to the source, you get Corbyn saying, "We must NOT X, Y and Z." But people don't click thru, as you suggest. Similarly, headlines often contradict articles, and a majority of people only see headlines. During the Corbyn era, the entire British media lied so much I permanently filtered them out. Guardian is still running the impossible Manafort-Assange article.
I notice I am thinking more in terms of propaganda than conspiracies, like Uighur Genocide or Tiananmen Square Massacre. I've recently discovered that much of my background knowledge of history and official enemies like Cuba, Russia, China, etc is as ridiculously untrue as when I was in high school circa 1980 and school pamphlets informed us cannabis would make us trans. Boys would grow breasts and lactate!🤣I was also fairly anxious about God and masturbating😇
I think we need a more menacingly sounding word than 'nonsense' for these phenomena. I'm thinking of the one that would subsume the meaning of 'nonsense' but emphasize how dangerous it is. Don't get me wrong, it is nonsense, but what comes to mind when (at least I) hear 'nonsense' is one of those Lewis Carroll style poems, that are mostly inocuous and sometimes entertaining.
the amount of rightwing trolls that have suddenly appeared to shoot her down in the comments kinda speaks for itself
they do it every time, just point them out and they wriggle back into darkness like the cockroaches they are
exactly. :)
Another great discussion. Thank you.
Tommy Robinson is very close to the "israeli" government, a fact that should not be overlooked.
BS.!
Looking forward to this one. I enjoyed her previous books. Especially the the one in which she ties together the Western far-right and the Islamic far-right and shows how they feed off of each other.
said that for decades, the far right and Islamic extremists are two peas in a pod
Thanks for that, havnt read the books but that idea resonates.
In which book does she do this? I’d like to get it
Brilliantly brave and insightful person
Julia, thank you for your amazing work! You are so brave and your work is so important. As a woman, I truly look up to you. I have so much respect for you. I am a big fan :)
Great interview. I've read Going Dark and it is fascinating. Just ordered Going Mainstream and will be passing on the receipts for all the books I've bought because of your interviews 😂
Brilliant video, thanks for your work.
Should have addressed the conflation of liberalism with the left directly because a central contradiction here is of course we want people to be radicalised but specifically to the left. Not only the right can use collapse conditions to organise, it's dangerous to cede that ground to them.
What a brave woman!! Thanks for your work
Thanks for a great interview. Keep them coming!
wow keep your head down.....just in case.....offer something
Interesting discussion about the changes that have happened in our society. The fact that housework is still seen as being both something women do and is low status is an issue our society has failed to grasp. Work that has no definitive end is draining and we need to admit that.
thats your take on this? fud
Its a thankless job, and your juggling a job at the sametime. I always said it should be paid , a stay at home mum or dad. Bringing up the next generation. I worked with early years tots, and my wages wouldn't have covered the fees. Not Good enough.
This is true: there tends to be 'grains of truth' in conspiracy theories. To add, though: part of why those grains have such power in driving the crazy stuff, is that they tend to be truths that the mainstream avoids discussing (e.g. power of 1%er economic elites in 'democratic' processes).
The mainstream needs to find the courage to discuss difficult truths, so susceptible people aren't drawn into the fringe spaces that do discuss them in radicalising ways.
I'm somewhat sceptical of labelling generations as inclined to one side of the political spectrum or another. People (understandly imo) react against the pharisiacal hypocrisy of corporate liberalism. In a media conversation where that is called Left, some turn to the Right. What we have to do is make the actual Left case. Rosa Luxembourg's prophetic warning about the effect of class war from above unfortunately remains relevant: "we will have socialism, or barbarism".
Have you taken down the Asa Winstanley interview on Downstream?
Very good,thank you.
Damn I didn’t know England was so weak. Watching so many of these interviews you quickly realize it’s a fallen state lead by losers whose people are ashamed of mainly the only things that ever made them great in the first place. It’s absolutely fascinating!
You do realise England has had a right-wing conservative government in power for the last 14 years?
And now we've just had Aaron attacked. Sickening, the lengths the far-right will go to.
Going Dark is a very concerning look at extremist groups, really opened my eyes to the level of organisation within these groups.
it opened my eyes to the level of interconnectedness too... globalizing never missed a beat on these mofos, for sure.
Did she also infiltrate left wing extremists?
I am from the other end of the spectrum. I am here to learn and understand a different viewpoint.
The fascist viewpoint!?
@darcyroyce I hope we are hear to try and understand one another and not hurl insults. My viewpoint is more to the right of centre.
@@MarkL-we8uk right centre is not meant to br fascist, but what we're reacting here is talking about fascism, those extreme length of right wing. Do we need to revisit some basic definitions? :)
@@darcyroyce are you trying to frame my statements and leanings as fascist? 😀
I like to go with what Abraham Lincoln once said - "I don't like that man, I must get to know him".
@@MarkL-we8uk no, I'm not, you're doing it yourself. I like to go with Karl Popper's take on the paradox of tolerance, and not hear out hate speech, not give a platform to anything remotely extremist, and push back against the spread of ideas or ideologies that promote fascism.
It is because of people like you young people are joining these 'groups'. Different points of view are not 'extremism'. When people feel they are not allowed to say what they think it will become a problem!
When you discussed not having influential male role models on the left i thought immediately of you Aaron, Michael, Barnaby, James et al. Another insightful interview, many thanks ❤
I think leftist men need to come to the forefront, and collaborate and unite. I want to put my hard-earned money where democratic and humanistic values are upheld, nurtured and promoted loudly all over the internet and social media.
There are some American leftists that are popular on CZcams like hasan and vaush that are for the zoomers/ young millennials. Can't think of any Brit leftists that would be the opposite force to a Tate type content maker.
@@jameswarren2222I'm not convinced those two are fighting the good fight :) but maybe it's just me coming across too many andrew tates in the past. 🤷
Really enjoyed this
In this situation when some keeps asking how long did it take you to recover from that keep that data to your self so that there tactics don't improve
Shes a sharp 1 aye .
Excellent service
I do believe the main problem with masculinity feeling left behind by feminism is one of advertising. The enforced gender roles of traditional patriarchal society is what causes the ideas that: men can't have emotions; men need to be the head of the family; men need to be successful; happiness and comfort is for women, men need to suffer to be real men, and on, and on.
Feminism, i.e. the push to remove the patriarchy, unspokenly also combats those things that harm men. But it has been unspoken for most of the time.
The solution is to remove the unspoken part. Which I have seen happen, but it should've happened 10 years ago.
I disagree. The Patriarchy is a synonym for Christianity. Both are the same. Feminists would prefer the term patriarchy but in fact feminism was really smashing Christianity. Having said that, we are rapidly going back to a pre-Christian society, a much more Roman society, where sex becomes a recreational activity. The great irony of course is that feminists didn’t see this happening; most women don’t really want this kind of world. If you look closely, women want their traditional dignity upheld, their femininity, and they want to have children, and it must be said, they want to marry gentlemen. This appears to be a permanent condition, baked into the female condition. But we as a society will be dealing with this for the rest of this century. In the meantime, we are all going to be living as Romans, casual sex along the male pattern, an unspoken polygamy, a lot of single men and a lot of unmarried women that will never have children
@@bensanderson7144 I have no love for Christianity, but Christianity did not invent patriarchal society, patriarchal society moulded Christianity to follow it's rules. I mean, you keep referring to the Roman empire as the "before civilization", how many female emperors have you heard of? How many prominent female Romans at all? None or very few, because they couldn't vote and had less rights than their male counterparts.
You're also just incorrect about what women want, and what the point of feminism is: free choice.
I'm not sure what you mean by "traditional dignity" and why you think it existed before feminism, but choice is main factor. Women used to be the property of their husbands, rape against a wife used to be legal, domestic abuse used to be legal, and women couldn't have bank accounts or work, so they couldn't realistically divorce to escape.
I think you've fallen for a rather rose tinted, reactionary view of the past.
It's also telling that your entire speech doesn't include any mention of gay, bi or asexual women, or poly women for that matter.
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@@bensanderson7144and a life expectancy of 36😂😂
More good books. 👍
Cover Michael Gove's housing speech in detail please!
Happy Birthday Julia Ebner. I read your bio, thank you.
I don't wonder why rich policymakers aren't motivated to tackle economic inequality. Sure, they may pay some lip service to some weak policy in order to construct a social image that they're interested in doing something about economic equality, but expecting a relatively rich "leader" to change the "system" (e.g., Trump or Sunak) that has become rich precisely because of the system that produces economic inequality ("the status quo"), is ridiculous. However, in a plutocracy, the public's democratic choices tend to be very limited (narrow-minded politics because it's being promoted by the richer group). Or at least, the general citizen only consumes the social media that promotes the status quo and attacks the "left". e.g., marxism, labour unions, etc. It's a monopoly and the majority have been disenfranchised (precisely because they don't have the money \ time to be social influencers. Any rich snob can buy their way into a plutocratic government where nepotism & buying loyality is how you get to the "top")
Little Tommy Ten Names and his ilk love to say they will sue you for libel and yet never do, Piers Morgan did it recently too on his awful show. They love to throw around their weight but never actually do anything because they know it would cost hundred of thousands in lawyers and would probably lose anyway
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Tate's appeal comes from misplaced values. Think about what we think is valuable and important today.
Misplaced values in one sense, but also young men clawing around for an answer to how they should be
@@XavierJAlexander exactly...and the combination of social media presented ideals of success and the limited or lack of real-life possibilities for most.
Really insightful. Brilliant all round. Thanks all.
Deeply disturbing too, sadly
@40:00 plus.. I'm a single dad, bucks the trend.. but he's happy, I'm happy , we work with his mum ro ensure his relationship with his mum.. putting the child first.. yes, we not struggle, but we are making it work.. 🙂
Great conversation
24:30 "Alluring to think you live in unprecedented times"?! Seriously?! Frankly I was very happy growing up in the boring 90's/00's! I yearn for a time when the craziest thing happening was that Arctic Monkeys had a 10m deep crowd outside the introducing stage at Leeds Festival before they've sold a single record! (Although, I fully accept, such benign times had politicians asleep at the wheel, probably leading us to where we are right now)
Those times were anything but boring, you just wasn't paying attention.
aye mate,,,,,that the answer you want? wake up
I'm happy growing up in the 90thies as well . But I also realize it's boring compared with today's 24 hour internet noise. Maybe in ten years things will be so bad, we look back at those innocent times of the early naive 2020thies
Poll tax riots, Iraq wars, war in Europe (Yugoslavia). The 90s and 00s were just as eventful as the 20s.
In the 90's, it felt chilled and groovy because we'd successfully outsourced most of the pain overseas. The 90's of the Middle East and Central/South America were anything but chillin', indie records, and the novelty of a barista coffee.
At least she isn't in hiding, fearing for her life, like the Batley school teacher.
^ fash alert
He did it on purpose for fame
@@Feellikealady99 lol yeah sure he did
Spain is going Far Right.
Hasn't done so yet!
I just seen Elon Musk is going to replace the Twitter logo with an "X", why can't we do the same with him ?
we can...the trick is not to ask for permission....just do it. sabotage his platform, walk out, silence him by not listening, don't support him. we can all do it.
@@darcyroyce I won't pretend to be railing against Elon Musk but I refuse to use social media platforms that use the terminology of "follower" as a personal choice. Other than that I go on the basis that Elon Musk has only ever been responsible for creating the hype that surrounds him so I wouldn't necessarily boycott a particular brand or site because of him.
@@darcyroycewhy do you want Twitter to fail?
@@tonythomas1010 not to fail, to change hands and recover as a medium that functions within a better regulated and regulating system.
@@darcyroyce Do you think it’s wrong for Elon to allow everyone to have a voice?
That was really interesting. Thanks a lot
Evidence of the duplicity of Majid and the Quilliam lot. Cover for an Islamophobia promoting ploy imo
Generation labels as bullshit in general but 'Alpha' have grown up on CZcams from a young age and the CZcams far right pipeline is real
I don't know the entire biography of Robinson but I am not aware of him advocating white supremacy. His gripe is presumably with Islam. Obviously there is going to be a crossover in terms of his followship between racism and anti-islam. But I do think you have to give people the respect of actually representing their views correctly.
I mean Islam does essentially have zero compatibility with the western world.
@@lil_truth These are the sorts of views that led to the Christchurch massacre.
Quilliam Foundation? Interesting employer to work for. Perhaps she can give us some insight if its internal workings.
It's no wonder that more right-wing attitudes have gone more mainstream. It was inevitable ever since the public learned how much they'd been failed and lied to about the horrific scale of the Rotherham sex abuses.
Certainly I wish people had turned against the church the way they seem to have gone right wing because of Rotherham.
The scandal of the police being paid to ignore and even participate in child abuse and then using the excuse of "cultural sensitivity" to cover up their corruption. Why would this make you racist instead of anti police?
Radio 4 is full of awful establishment 'selective journalism '
I genuinely think younger millennials and older Zoomers were very left-wing but there’s been a bit of a split, possibly caused by the pandemic and new social media platforms which has made this generation more right-wing. I went to Uni in the North East after the pandemic and a lot of the students were acting like Twitter was real life, whereas I think someone a few years older would be able to distinguish between real life and online chatter. I also think a lot of the attitudes towards boys and men really made it a toxic environment which I fo think was pushing male students into the manosphere/right. I dropped out to study at home but these experiences have changed me. I think I’m more likely to have a negative response to someone applying collective blame onto men.
I'm late Gen-X, and I can definitely see the pattern. It seems to be a wide variety of factors; some social, some economic, but mostly a response to their environment, rather than an active pursuit of conservative behaviour. I'm regularly around a university campus, and the visible hyper-focus on STEM-dominated career goals (right from First Year), could be seen as a sign of them de-liberalising, compared to when I was a student.
@@easytoassemble54321 I don't what I'm at in my 5th decade, I don't get any of this, some young people get that we tried and didn't want any of this.
I meant to write, I didn't want any of this. Good luck young uns' . Some old people labelled in a a way that I don't understand, get it. If that helps.
Can you please explain these labels on age groups, I never felt I had everything in common with my peers back in day, some but not all. And still feel the same. I'm a sprightly, 54. So what label is assigned to me?
@@SuzanneO707your age would slot you into the Gen X bracket, which is roughly people born between 1960-1980, but these are arbitrary parameters, and the values assigned to different generations shouldn't be taken too seriously, even if there are sometimes generalisations and correlations which make sense.
In UK, there are clear economic and cultural differences between post-war period, and say mid-1990s onwards (eg. university fees, degree of nationalisation or sharp rise in house prices compared to wages).
Boomers (roughly post WW2-1960) get blamed for a lot, but as you infer, each generation is not a homogenous group, and many oppose what the dominant group succeeds in pushing through.
This notion of generational conflict has been stoked by media and pundits, and has a momentum of its own now, but there has always been some degree of enmity and difference between generations, as long as there has been change over time in societies.
As of yet, Gen X have had a very low-profile when it comes to cultural analysis, with focus on Boomers, Millennials and now to an extent Gen Z/Zoomers. This is a historical quirk, and may change - ironically, Gen X were highlighted by a book by Douglas Coupland, which arguably played a major role in kicking off intense generational analysis. Most major politicians in UK now are Gen X, and many of the leading figures shaping the world like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Jordan Peterson are too. US is oddly going through a gerontocratic period, with first Trump, and now the explicitly old and somewhat senile Biden and Mitch McConnell.
If you're gonna talk about someone negatively, be prepared for them to challenge you on it, it's quite simple, she got what she deserved and Aaron is making a lot of assumptions regarding the article and its intention, this is typical lazy, non critical thinking usually ascribed to the extremist groups being discussed
Honestly, I was with her up until she said she worked for Quilliam. I mean if she wanted to look for Islamophobia she could have started with Quilliam. Also, you need a certain amount of Islamophobia just to work for Quilliam.
When you say you were with her ‘up until’? Do you mean you just don’t agree with her working for Quilliam or you’ve disregarded every point she made prior and after that because of her working for quilliam?
Islamophobia lol.
Lock Trump up!
Locking up political prisoners is not a smart or moral move.
@@ltmundwhat about er, criminals?
@@Feellikealady99 Absolutely. But you have to make sure, completely, transparently, that the scrutiny and justice applied is universal. That means both sides believe in it and trust it. The real problem is that if law and justice was applied evenly they'd all be in prison. If only one side has that applied then its political imprisonment.
Thats how its always worked.
@@ltmund And all that is required for your 'political imprisonment' to come true is for one side to repeatedly say, "Nothing to see here", (or in other words, lie). Which, so far as I'm aware, has become a common tactic in modern politics, mostly utilised by those on the right of the spectrum.
That doesn't mean that others do not lie. Politics in almost all its forms has always been about lying and it probably always will be. Media doesn't have to be about lying but in the UK it almost always is.
Don't mistake justice for fairness, or think that if justice is not applied in some instances then application of it in other instances is automatically unjust. That's absolutism and it never achieves anything good.
@@ltmund scrutiny has been applied fairly. And Trump has been found to be wanting enough that criminal charges have rightly been brought
I didn't know Andrew Tate existed until the BBC reported on him.
Stephen Yaxley Lennon ( aka tommy 'the nob' robinson ) cried like a baby in prison !!!!
Yes, after the state forced him into isolation for weeks on end and tried to kill him on at least one occassion.
@@WhatIsBacon Are the State that bad at killing people that an assassination attempt by the secret services failed ? .. Please explain ?? Not a very secret service if you seem to know about it ?
Yeaaaa i don't agree with Aaron in the last 10mins or so.
Acting like an undercover cop Like why? We know what the far rights fears and motivations are already the issue is we can’t build solidarity - enjoy your book money at their expense x
How on earth would Julia Ebner go undercover?
Mostly through online platforms
Generation alpha didn’t start until 2010 meaning they are 13 at the most. How has she worked out that they are ultra conservative? Sorry this womans ideas do not pass the sniff test.
ive found a knew author methinks
In this whole interview, not one mention was made of Hungary, which for many years now has voted in to office a party of national-conservative orientation. Some would yet characterise it as "traditionalist". The problem with the popular left in general, probably since the time of Marx and Engels themselves, is the almost complete and utter dismissal of the proven stabilising effect of the basic national-conservative outlook. This is what is often meant by the "silent majority" in the overall European political and historical context, and it's precisely the arrogant dismissal of this robust, yet ideologically non-confrontational voter base, which creates the vacuum for all kinds of extremists from the ranks of the masses (or proletariat if you will), whether from the left or the right side of politics, to exploit. But why honestly are you from the left so ignorant of the Hungarian example, which really happens to be the shining example for the vast majority of national conservatives, pretty much worldwide?
omg i wanna watch this video but i actually cant stomach Aaron`s slimy, affected i-love-myself demeanour. Obsolute boner killer. mans gotta have some skeletons in the closet. i have no evidence for this other than my own intuition but there is something wrong with that dude swear dwn
I’m concerned about how much of a defender of hate speech Aaron seems to be becoming.
Is free speech all encompassing and unassailable, or does it come with the responsibility of morality? Libel laws are immediate evidence that it’s more the latter, therefore we need more consistency.
On the female/male discussion around minute 43. It would help if women would initiate more in the dating game. That would even out the responsibility for finding a partner. That's feminist and pro men.
If you don't understand where these theories are coming from why don't you do your due diligence x investigate it. I think you will be shocked.
Do you know? Explain
^ probably fash alert
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C'mon Aaron ye need more guests on talkin about the imminent dangers of AI - ????? Do a guest ting with Mo - Scarey Smart Mo EX GOOGLE OFFICER?????? get him???????
The medina is so untrustworthy. They do not deserve any credibility. That’s their own doing.
This makes me wonder if the reformist approach to progressive change will really work. Perhaps something more revolutionary, something that will restructure the government and decentralise it along directly-democratic lines is what's needed. It's the only meaningful response to elite inaction and reactionary tribalism.
History doesn't repeat but it rhymes.....same as "Abe Lincoln" and "A. Blinken". Tin foil hat anyone ?
This is fucking funny 😂
Vote reform!
Love of family, love of the Land of your birth, love of your country is Patriotism!
Patriotism is deely held in one's heart.
A true Patriot holds that Love of Country is every one's Human Right. We are connected to the place of our birth, our forefathers birthplace and Homeland.
May There Be Peace on Earth! 🕊
Dehumanising and inciting hate are vague terms. In the west free speech should be allowed unless you are making direct calls for violence against groups that don’t deserve it.
Brave woman, interesting looking books, terrible interview! Aaron, you sounded patronising! "You must have felt terrible sometimes, didn't you?" and "Are you better now?" Yikes!😬 Improve your game man!
Also, I felt like he wasn't letting her speak enough, interrupting her to express his views in a form that sort of dominated the conversation.
It's easy to point this out when somebody else does it, but I find I would probably do something similar if I didn't make an effort to control myself. ;)
Tommy Robinson is an English Patriot 🏴, and a British Patriot 🇬🇧!
The Supreme Court of The United Kingdom found that Police, Civil Servants, The Courts and The Press acted against the interests and protection of the young English girls attempting to report incidents of rape.
The "Pakistani Rape Gangs" ( some members) were, after years, investigated, charged and sentenced.
Tommy Robinson was and is the champion of the innocent victims of, abduction, every form of rape, and gang rape torture, physical branding.
This channel could have shown an ounce of human decency and covered this tragedy. But, instead intentionally ignored this story surrounding Tommy Robinson's protests on behalf of the victims which in time would cause authorities to act, and instead slander Tommy Robinson online.
Tommy Robinson - Lecture at The Oxford Union, Oxford College.
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I read that book - it was a bit of joke tbh. Sitting in your front room posting on some internet forums & attending a meet-up at a wine bar with Brittany Pettibone isn't exactly the stuff of John le Carre novels.
Was it meant to be a novel? 😂
And neither is sitting in your living room posting criticisms of people in CZcams comments lol
@@franklingoodwinBoom 😂
@@franklingoodwin You'll be delighted to hear I have no intention of appearing as an interviewee on NM then
@@user-qe9gt5rg6t 'Engaging and visceral ... Reads like a thriller' Financial Times 😆
Love that the ‘black community’ is especially allowed to question the vaccine narrative!😂
Damn this was very boring lol
She lied and got called out.
Bastani is great because his message speaks to the far left, far right and the sensible centre
“Sensible”
She has no axe to grind I'm sure.
^ fash alert
I have no issues with this chanel but Elon Musk amd far right rhetoric? ...come on!
Yeah I mean between all the climate denial and platforming Ron DeSantis I'd say he's pretty right wing
I would like someone to define what they mean by far right rhetoric before accusing someone of it. I also find the term climate denial strange. One can be a skeptic of man-made climate change, but as a scientist I can confirm that the climate is in constant change, and through time solar output, the Earth's wobble, its orbital eccentricity effect it. To deny climate change would indeed be truly ignorant.
There’s no such thing as a racist punk!😮
Isn’t it a bit fascist to believe it’s your job to censor what other people think ??
Well not if it's against fascism itself, no! 😊
@@darcyroycedefine fascism please.
Robinson highlighted the relationship between Muslim gangs and grooming, when the police and local politicans couldn't be bothered.
No, he did not.
@@aidanjohnkelly yeah, that was Julie Bindel.
^ fash alert
@@MrGelf it wasn’t her, either, The Times first broke that story to the media, Yaxley-Lennon just piggybacked onto it, like he always does.
Ah yes, Tommy Robinson, a closet famously free of sexual misconduct skeletons
By reading the comments it seems if you disagree with the rhetoric you are labelled a far right facist?
Whatever happened to differing opinions?
Bit extremist in my opinion.
Looking forward to getting a 'fash alert' for posting this!
What rhetoric do you disagree with? Remember, you can't expect respect for disagreeing with the truth.
^ naive or possibly fash alert
@@munkey_nuts there's no truths mate, just opposing opinions this is YT a social media platform.
@@steve9542000
* vomit*
She's annoyed her writing had 'real world consequences' for her and not just the people she attacks. I don't think TR is even far right, he's more old school labour aligned I imagine as a working class man, unless wanting less immigration is now a right wing issue. I remember when it was a labour issue because labour knew the poor, English working class were the biggest victim of mass movement. This is before all our politicians decided they were world leaders and forgot they are meant lead and protect the English.
Victory to the workers ✊
^ fash alert
Wanting less immigration is a fake issue. Treating it otherwise makes you part of the problem.
I remember it well - Ebner and buddies definitely slandered him and they looked really stupid when he showed up and quite reasonably asked them to explain themselves.
Around that time there was a shocking amount of midinfo and straight up lying being chucked around.
I'm not a TR groupie.
@@spooky1304you certainly sound like one
“Stormed” I’ll give this one a miss.
She had nothing to say about grooming gangs raping women and girls. Assuming leftism and feminism are one and the same thing, she is not exactly a progressive.
Is all the emotive ultra cherry-picked data selection linked directly to anti vax and other con culture wars to promote strong man authoritarian leader abs their preferred arbitrary kabal, rather than cohesive functional systems? Or is there any suggested link in this you'd want to feign to disown and help take down?
@@tankie9997Tankie grooming has been going on in England for 200 years and more
@@tankie9997what have you got to say about grooming gangs ?..
@@thehomelessproject3784 The Catholic church has a lot of abuse to address.
cring3
Based tommy
^ fash alert
@@billhicks8 ^ doesn’t have a clue what fascism is alert
@@user-zb9kw2tt2g100% a fascist
@@user-zb9kw2tt2g far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist are characteristics of fascism
@@user-zb9kw2tt2gsays the guy with a bot username
1 million immigrants into the uk last year. Anybody want that?
Stoping being a snow flake and prophet of doom one million immigrants lol
Yes would be fantastic
@@pete6418He had to up vote his own lie. Pathetic and laughable really. 😂😂😂
Does that include the planes from Ukraine?
I'm bored. What is she saying exactly?
she's saying she wrote a book about people like you
@@billhicks8 what,Corbyn voters?
@@MrGelf ( ( (yes of course ) ) )
@@billhicks8ffs mate .. just cos people aren’t impressed by her doesn’t mean they’re a fascist .. I have to say she seemed a bit empty to me and one of the least interesting downstream guests .. also Aaron’s questions weren’t pointed enough .. no need for piers Morgan style antagonism but there could have been a bit more questioning of her analysis .. think he might have been a bit starstruck 😂
@@jsquire5pa otherwise you might not find her interesting, that's an opinion, whatever
Great idea. Can't wait to watch it. I hope there will also be a "going undercover with neo-marxists" version as well. 👍
Me too. Examples of neo-Marxism include critical theory, cultural studies, as well as some forms of feminism. Education rather than stupidity. Bring it on.
Huh? You do realise this is an *explicitly* Marxist show... right?
Unless you've got a definition for this "neo"-marxism, I'm not sure what you're getting at.
what
@markbailey5393 education is becoming an outdated concept, sadly
do you not like neo-marxists?