Socket chisel for wood working
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- One of the reasons i started blacksmithing was to make my own woodworking tools. So lets take a look at forge a socket wood chisel. This chisel is made from 1/4 x 3/4 mild steel with a forge welded steel edge.
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Fantastic video, great to see a chisel made from start to finish.
So glad you decided to include the handle making portion
Yes please more of this !!!
Great video John! I know youve got a list a mile long of things to show and requests im sure, but I for one would LOVE to see your take on forging a bostered tang chisel, such as seen on many old british firmers and paring chisels.
That is on the list.
❤ Thank you John! This right here is what got me started blacksmithing too! woodworking. Wanted to make a hewing ax to make a cabin. Still tooling and training up for the ax years later! lol. Thank you John for all your time and efforts!
Another excellent informative video, and the quality of your work is astounding. I'm sure that quite a few of us got into blacksmithing to make woodworking tools as well, so I really appreciate you going into so much detail to show us how to do it to a high standard
This was good, I am a woodturner with an interest in blacksmithing. Thanks.
Love seeing the fitting of your nice handle,Sir.
Always catch more information by watching over.
Thanks
thanks, from a carpenter who is just starting forging, this was a really inspiring video, you taught me a lot here.
Great teachings of several types.
Thanks you Sir
Can't wait to make my first chisel
Wood turning also looks very appealing, it looks elegant and is really complementary to the blacksmithing work. I definitely need a bigger shop 😬
Exactly why i started. Lol found more than i was looking for and loving it
Some of the best handles I've ever made as far as toughness goes is actually from some privett that seems to be useless for everything except for tool handles. That is some tough stuff not only rock hard but as indestructible as anything I have ever come across
Almost 25 thousand subs. Awesome
Now he has almost 4 times that, even more awesome.
Very nice. I have wanted to make one of these for years!
That is a nice chisel, and if it would be used as a paring chisel, it would be plenty strong. Nice forging project.
Great job
You glossed over using aluminum foil to make a positive of the socket. That is a nice trick to know.
I actually thought all of that had been edited out due to sound issues.
Opss I miss that and rewind, Glad you called it, and nice method John.
Thanks to both of you two
Really enjoy watching your videos.
Beautiful work!
Nice video, Ty
Another good one John. I enjoy watching you turn the handle. I guess being a blacksmith also means being a Carpenter/woodworker. That’s something I never got the hang of. Thx again for sharing.....Paul
I have much to learn. Handles take way more time than they should.
I never thought i could watch an instructional for 35 minutes and stay interested, but here i am. Well done!
Great video Mr. John, as usual I enjoyed it, thank you Sir.
Very nicely done, I am not ready for trying this yet, but as always learned a lot of other things needed to get there.
Great video and very nice tool as well.
Great idea forge welding a piece of tool steel to the mild. I guess from one old worn out wood chisel you could forge quite a few bespoke chisels.
Nicely done. I enjoyed that, funny how we all want to make tools to use ourselves. All the best Mat
That was a nice build. Well done sir!
Thank you John very much for the very instructional session, sparks many ideas.blessings and aloha td
Beautiful chisel!
Same here, got started to make myself a draw knife when my daughter and I were building the kayak in my profile picture and completely fell in love with this craft. Grew up around all this and it's beats me as to why I waited 20yrs to get started. Another Awesome video! I compare your skill and passion to the likes of guys like Roy Underhill!!! Thank you Sir! Would 4140 or 5160 work well for the tool edge? I just acquired over 150lbs of raw billet stock of each a few days ago....PBS, Are y'all watching this guy. This is educational TV our youth needs!!!
Thanks. Sadly it sounds like Roy has lost his sponsorship and his show is coming to an end.
Great video thank you
Nice paring chisel John 👍🏽
This is exactly what I needed to see!
Love your work!
Cheers
Revisiting this video, as I have plans to make a chisel set
I do hope it helps
I like the way you teach, certain people learn better when taught by a certain person, im one of those people....if you give classes id sure like to know...thanks
Awesome John!!
Thank you.
Great video.
Great channel. Understand them, but can no longer tolerate the adds. Thank you for the great content.
Sorry you feel that way. I have a choice of working for customer making products and not making any videos or running ads on the videos to pay for the time lost making items for sale. If there are no ads on the videos, then I am working for free and I can't afford to work without being paid. So ads equal regular videos and nop ads equal no videos.
Not many videos on socket chisel. This may be number two. I have never understood and still don't - what secures the handle in. I thought possibly heating it up before install.
John, great video! I've been contemplating welding some O1 tool steel that I have on to the face of an engraving hammer I'm planning to make (mild steel). This was educational and I appreciated you showing everything, including the initial weld failure.
I have had some difficulty forge welding O1. it seems to be very red short. meaning it falls apart if you get it just a little to hot
@@BlackBearForge thanks for the heads up on that. Using O1 as I have left over from a frame-back razor design. If this has issues, I'll look into procuring W2. Seems very easy to work with.
Great video! I really enjoyed that. Wondered how you were going to make the socket and nw I know so I can try it some day soon I hope. Just took a break from being in the shop making the candle holders you made the other day. There looking good. Thanks as always John!
John, I've often wondered, after having watched your channel for some time, why your hardy tools are so very loose in the hole? It seems that, because the hardy bick was so loose, you lost much of your heat because you lost precious seconds in aligning the socket. The instructor that I have taken classes from advocates that hardy tools fit snugly. This can help reduce injury particularly on a hot cut. Some have argued for loose saying that it makes it easier to change. True, however, the number of times that I need to swap out one for another I can count on one hand. I simply make a slightly longer shank/stem and then tap it with the hammer to loosen it. The other reason for tight hardy tools is to reduce if not eliminate the clatter from them flopping around in the hole. Great video!
Mostly because it is an old worn odd shaped hole that isn’t a common size. A tool that fits perfectly only fits one way.
if it is crooked use it for going around corners lol ...thanks for the video
I really like your camera setup very nice and professional. And I’m not sure if you got a new camera or not but I love the newer quality of the videos. Also love the work you do. Keep up the good job.
I have started using multiple cameras in many of the how to videos. The main camera is still the Sony video camera
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'... 800°C for those of you who are in that world... " I thought the most part of the world uses SI-Unit-System ;)
Man those turning tools are Amazing! Did you make all those gouges and such?
I made a few of them, but most are commercial
I put a two piece knife type handle both have advantages Sir
Thanks
Figured a long video was coming with the absence of a blacksmithing video yesterday.
Very cool! Edged tools are always my favorite things to see being forged and finished, even better when only the edge is carbon steel. I was wondering if you also forged that little puukko knife at the end that you were using to adjust the cone that sets into the socket. If so, I'd love to see you make one of those sometime as well haha. Thanks for sharing and take care :)
That knife is a Swedish Mora knife with a handle carved by someone else
Mr. Switzer, have you done any guides on steel selection by implementation? Is there one that you know of, a book or website that will tell us what steel to choose for what tool or task?
The new edge of the anvil by Jack Andrews is one of the better books on the subject
A treatment of Aqua Fortis and heat with an oil follow up would have that handle looking like a million dollars!
True. But I probably won't get to in depth with wood finishes for blacksmithng
Could you heat the bick a bit to start?
Probably, although I never have
Beautifull chisel John. It's been 6 or 7 years since I did any forging. I really need to get the forge up and running. 😆
It was mentioned already about warming the bick. I noticed that it welded better the second time. How much time passed between the attempts? Could the first attempt have heated the bick?
It was probably 3 or 4 minutes, so nit long. That is a possibility
Your forearm looked mighty close to lathe in the burning lines section
would it be smart to heat up the mandrel a little when doing the socket for the chisel
Another excellent video. Entertaining as well as instructional.
I notice some marks on the socket that look like centre punch marks.
Are they like a crimp to help the handle hold in?
Nothing intentional, probably just stray hammer marks
I reviewed the end of the video and I see what you mean. They are character marks :)
John, how in the world would I make a corner chisel? Would I need a top and bottom swage? What if I want to make my own little carving chisel set? How would I make one so small? would a modified dremel tool work? Or maybe a modified dremel tool in a dental lathe to act like a regular grinder?
I think many are actually made from a square bar then milled. But starting with a bar and bending then upsetting the corner could be done. Its the grinding thats hard. The only person I have seen make one was a professional tool grinder and he dressed grinding stones on an 8 or 10" grinder to the exact inside angle, a skill in itself.
@@BlackBearForge Darn.
Wondering, why did you lap weld the tool steel tip and not butt weld it. Seems there is mild steel in the sharp and working area of the finished tool?
Thanks, JIM
The lap weld is much stronger an it places the tool steel along the back of the tool where there will always be steel right at the cutting edge. The softer mild steel is on the bevel side where it is always ground back away from the edge
Hey John, Nice video! I too ended up in blacksmithing making tools for woodworking/timberframing. Quick side question, What are the specs on your electric blower under the coal forge? If you don't mind sharing. Cheers
Great Video , really glad to see some woodworking tools being made (my main reason for straying into the blacksmithing realm) . Would you use the same method for making say a mortise chisel?
Yes, but it would need to be much heavier.
Love the videos. Can you give me some advice on how I can get my 210lb wrought iron anvil flat again on top?
Too many dents.
If not too deep you might be able to grind them out, but you also don't want to make the steel top overly thin. Some people will use hard face rod to resurface an anvil. Its lots of work and requires pre heating and lots of grinding. I did that once and have no desire to mess with it again.
I know this sounds silly but why not make it all out of tool steel?
I guess you could, but John makes other tools with a mild steel body and only uses tool steel for the working edge. I guess thats why he approached this tool the same, because it was what he is used to doing. Makes sense too, as it saves on the more expensive tool steel. Plus, quality tools last forever and unless you heavily use and sharpen it a lot, the small bit of tool steel used should last forever. Think about some antique tools that are still used today, they were more inclined to approach tools in the same manner, because tool steel was even more expensive and harder to come by back then.
Id also point out mild steel is much easier to forge weld for the socket
In the "old days", tool steel was very expensive and hard to come by, so the smiths tried to make their edged tools with the body of wrought iron (later mild steel) and the cutting edge from a smaller piece of tool, or higher carbon, steel. Still a very prudent way if one cares to do it that way, as John showed us.
When was tool steel invented? How long of a piece of tool steel are on vintage chisels? And how do I know when I've run out? Some chisels on ebay look quite short... Like they have been ground down a lot over the years. Did anyone ever make a whole chisel out of tool steel?
You need to re-tape that handle that tape tail would drive me nuts .
I need to find time to replace the handle
Have you ever tried any of the belt grease on your belt sander John?
I have, it runs cooler, but I also feel it reduces the efficiency a bit.
Did you make that knife?
How are your slick making skills?
In my plans for the future
Can I ask about the base of the socket. Has the return forge welded to the body of the chisel when the socket joint was welded?
With a one piece socket and blade there is always a bit of an opening at the transition.
I have a couple of real old chisels made like this. The small one has been used without a handle in it and is flared out. Could it be fixed? The only way I know of fixing it is to grind the flare off and turn a new handle.
If it hasn't cracked where it's damaged you could reforge it. But you would also then need to re harden and temper.
Thanks
Wow! I wish you would show us some of your wood lathe work. Not even a hint of a catch.
Except, at the tail end. :)
And the stuff I edit out 😁
Why not pre-heat the mandrel? Would it cause fusion issues?
You could, but it doesn't make a big difference
@@BlackBearForge ok. Most of my metal working experience comes from high end gold and platinum smithing. I’m just starting to get into blacksmithing.
Who’s 2x72 grinder is that?
One is a Wilton the other is shop built
Do you think one could drill and drift a socket without splitting ?
Modern chisels a drilled. But to drill and drift a dead end hole is quite dificult
I say send that sucker to a WVa woodworker and let him try it out
I’m afraid it just sold at a blacksmithing fund raiser auction.
Lots of my friends live there, nice people
would it have helped to have heated the bic?
Maybe a little.