Patagonia R1 Air vs Patagonia Nano-Air - Which one is better?
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2021
- Patagonia R1 Air vs Patagonia Nano-Air - Which one is better?
Recently, we had a few people ask this question. So, we put this comparison video together in hope that it will help you make the best choice for your needs.
We have detailed reviews on each of these as well:
R1 Air - • Patagonia R1 Air Hoody...
Nano-Air - • Patagonia Nano Air New...
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Nano-Air for $299 - patagonia.pxf.io/NkqDr7
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No comment on the R1 air.
Nano Air is the greatest CO midlayer ever!
You know it! Thanks for sharing the stoke!
I love the nano air as well, but, the R1 air is more versatile, and versatility wins for me in the backcountry. I pair it with my OR ferrosi hoodie so I can take the Ferrosi off if I need more air, and wear one or the other. The Nano air can't shed that outer layer if you overheat.
Great review. This is my first time watching your channel and I really appreciate how straightforward and calm you are. So many of these videos have some kind of tacticool bs going on or just obnoxious loudness. Yours don’t. Subscribed. 👍🏾
Thank you for the kind words and sub!! I really appreciate that positive feedback.
Thanks for doing this Sean! Much appreciated.
Happy to do so!
It’s criminal how few subs u have bro; great content & always appreciate your work! Shalom!
Thank you my friend. I really appreciate that! Grateful to have fantastic people in our audience, and great opportunities to work with good companies. If the subs come, all the better! Shalom!
Great video brother! Thanks for hitting all the boxes.
Thank you for the nice comment!
The Nano air is an amazing garment! IMO this is two pretty different products and difficult to compare.
Nano air is by far one of my favorite piece of kit, nano air ligth in specific, got like 4 of them just because they descotinued them. Nano air ligth hybrid is really good too. Have yet to test a R1 or R2 air, R2 1/2 zip and R2 techface looks interesting.
As always thanx for your reviews, very informative.
Thanks for the thoughtful note! Agreed on the Nano air hybrid. Loved that one. Hope to have more reviews on those soon. Take care!
Owned Nano Air for 2 years,
The main defect is breathability, which is very poor (as stated in many other reviews). I bought it for ski mountaneering and if it is super cold it is gonna be fine but if you are on a sunny day even in autumn or spring you're gonna sweat way too much.
Btw love wearing this jacket, it is super confortable.
Thanks for sharing!
air goes right through R1 Air but it isn't as breathable as the nano-air? hmm, I have to figure that one out. I'm not sure the R1 Air vs nano-air is an apt comparison, vice say nano-air vs the R1 Techface or R2 Techface. I see the R1 Air as a combination base/mid, and Patagonia actually categorizes the R1 Air along with the Capilene Air as a baselayer; whereas, the nano-air and the R1/R2 TechFaces are more combination mid/outer. I bought the nano-air, because I run warm and every single review said how breathable (perhaps too breathable) it was. I actually found it not very breathable and just sweathed threw it on day hikes in 15-20F with lightweight baselayer. I think there's a too big of a gap between the R1 TF and R2 TF given the 94g weight difference, so the nano-air hoody kind of sort of wedges between the R1 TF and R2 TF.
I don't understand the "which is better" though since you didn't answer the for what, which is better. That's the important question. The intended purposes of the R1 Air and nano-air differ. I would not use the nano-air in higher exertion situations, because it just doesn't breathe sufficiently for me. Light exertion to no exertion in a temp range, I love the nano-air.
You have a lot of opinions. Thank you for sharing them. I have used, and appreciated the Nano Air on hundreds of active pursuits. To each their own.
I own both (and many other Patagonia pieces). I find the R1 Air too bulky and heavy and honestly think the original R1 is better in every way. The Nano Air jacket...my favorite piece of all time...I now have 2 of them. So soft and comfortable...amazing.
Totally agree. Nano-Air is so good. I think everyone needs one in their kit.
In my opinion, though “bulky” in a way, the north face Denali jacket is the best fleece jacket around. I bought mine in January of 2008 and after 15 years it’s still going strong and looks like I just bought it new.
A classic! I got my wife one and she loves it. Glad you are still enjoying yours. 🙌
It's weird how different people's experience can be with the same garment. My girlfriend and I both ended up selling our Nano Airs because they had major pilling on top of the shoulders from backpacks.
That is a bummer. I have my two OG Nano Airs and they have seen a lot of use. They are a bit discolored and are well used, but not much pilling. Sounds like you both had some good milage and adventures in them! In the future, it could be worth contacting Patagonia to see if they can repair or replace the gear for you. They are very good at that. Take care!
I've had R1 Air for a couple months...I'm about the same size as you and I got a L, and yep it's trim for sure. I've really grown to love this jacket...not going to wear it in sub zero, but when it's like around freezing, it's actually not too bad for me.
Thanks for sharing! That is helpful on the sizing as well as the applications you are using it in. Take care!
Thanks for the review Sean. Do you know if Patagonia plans on releasing the grey/orange nano air color way in the future? Want something else besides black, but not sure about all blue or all orange.
Hey Brandon, Thanks for the stoke! I did not see it in the line up for this year. I can see about future releases though. The blue looks awesome! I have a lot of Patagonia in blue and it is even better in person. Take care!
Great video, thank you.👏🏻😊
How does the nano air compare to the r2 techface?
Thank you Lee! The Nano Air is a bit warmer, in my opinion.
I have a lot of jackets I've accumulated over time that are similar to each other (nano air, nano puff, micro puff, arcteryx atom SL, atom LT) and the nano air is the most comfortable. The atom lt is the most similar to the nano air, but the atom lt is shorter, trimmer, a bit warmer because it's a smidge less breathable, looks better (if you care), but the fabric isn't as comfy/stretchy. Nano air is a great mid layer and can work for some activity in very cold weather where there is no wind since it offers VERY little wind protection. It would definitely be in my bag for backpacking/hiking over the atom LT due to the comfy nature and stretchiness but I'd also have something for wind.
Superb insights! 🙌🙌🙌
Hugely informative. What about the Atom SL how does it compare?
@@bmd6343 For context, I live in Southern California and do some hiking here, Utah, and various national parks (recently the Tetons). In November I hiked the highest peak in socal (22 miles round trip up to 11,500' elevation); temps were in 30's - 50's. I wore the Atom SL most of the day, particularly near the summit were it was windy (great hood), and wore a nano puff vest over it early in the morning and at the summit. The full nano air, puff, or atom lt would have been too much insulation for me for these temps with this activity level.
The Atom SL is very little insulation, but the slight amount coupled with the bit of wind protection makes it a must have for me in spring/fall temps for high activity levels. I hiked Malibu canyon this morning, and wore it half the hike (50s) until I warmed up.
It fits very slim/trim and has a small amount of stretch. Great for casual walking around in higher temps or high activity in lower temps. Not warm enough to sit around camp with no activity.
@@danielashleybaker thanks very much for your detailed reply. Confirmed what I thought. I guess the black one is smart enough to wear round town? Happy trekking!
@@bmd6343 Thank you! I have used the Atom LT, but not the SL. So, I can not directly compare to these. But I really like the Atom LT as well. More protection of course. Sorry I could not be of more help with this yet. I will reach out to Arcteryx to see if we can get something going on the Atom SL.
I always take a breathable windshirt while hiking or backpacking. I'm a fan of the windshirt + fleece combo over one layer that's wind resistant and warm.
That good advice Justin. I keep a Houdini or MH Kor in my kit at all times.
me too. I pair my ferrosi hoodie with my pat r1 air so I can shed one or the other in changing conditions.
I'm about to buy the nano air jacket and will consider going to a local seamstress ans see about putting in stretch mesh drop pockets.
If it's only £20/$30 then could turn a good jacket into a great one.
Oh! That is a really fascinating idea. Let us know if that works. If so, I am going in and getting mine altered too!
What about the R1 Air vs the Better Sweater Hoody? Both are fleece and the R1 Air is from the "technical" line but whats the main difference you would say? Thanks in advance & greetings from Austria!
Hello to you in Australia! Good question. The Better Sweater is wonderful. But I would not want to use it for active adventures. It is warm as heck and traps heat in very well. The R1 Air is not quite as warm, but does a fantastic job of regulating temp. Both are worth having. Better Sweater for casual use, R1 Air for active use.
My nano air is my favorite jacket I've ever owned.
Heck yes!! It is soooo good. Glad you love yours too. :)
I’m looking for something that can replace my Denali jacket from north face. Do you have any suggestions
Either one of these would do the job very well. Another option is the Arcteryx Atom LT - snp.link/e9adc26c
Hi, thanks for the vid! What's your experience on combining them?
Good question! I like your idea. It works well. R1 air first. We just met with Patagonia Monday this week. There might be a combo of this in the spring 23 lineup. If so, we will have a prototype to review in a few months 😎👌
@@Engearment 1. Thank you for the response. 2. The official combo idea sounds great. Can't wait for the potential review. 3. Please keep making your videos, they already helped me getting Patagonia Black Hole 32l, Patagonia R1 Air and the Micro Puff. I am extremely happy with these choices, so thanks a lot!
@@davidweidemann7275 thank you so much for the awesome note!! 🙌👌. Very happy that they help. We enjoy making them and Nerding out on gear. Take care!
Was looking to buy the R1 Air but simply doesn't perform compared to Polartec Alpha Direct. Using the Alpha Direct with a Houdini Air or better still a Airshed jacket gives better versatility and better performance. Patagonia needs to make Polartec Alpha Direct products and a Houdini Airshed Hoody.
That is very helpful advice. Let’s pitch them on the idea! We have some projects in the works with them, that should be up in a few weeks.
On cold runs I go w a cap air crew and OG airshed, love it but I haven’t fell for the pro since the only thing I see as an improvement would be a full zip. Well, that and making the whole thing hood & all out of that same great pertex w DWR
Is there ever a situation in which she would wear both during an active pursuit? If so I’m guessing the R one would go underneath?
I could see using both if the temps require it. I would go with the R under the Nano. Good calll.
Hey Sean thanks for the video. I really like the nano air and I’m looking at a similar active insulation jacket (North Face Ventrix) which is more in my price range. My question for you is do you feel like the nano air offers similar levels of warmth to say the mountain hardwear super stretchdown ds? I like my stretchdown but am thinking of returning it and replacing it with an active insulation piece since my stretchdown doesn’t breath as well and has no DWR which I’d like to have living in the PNW. Thanks again!
Thanks for the stoke and good question! I think the superstrech ds is warmer IMHO. What about a light hard shell over the MH ss ds? I have been using the nano air with the arcteryx trino. Perhaps a set up like that for the PNW?
@@Engearment thanks!
@@brandontom6230 🙌
Dont know if you read this comment, but i'm trying to find a midlayer item for a hardshell jacket. I'm going to use it for alpine recreational skiing. Will the R1 be enough or should i supplement with the nano-air as well? I usually ski in the alps around jan and feb, so conditions can get very cold
Hello Cod Father! Love the handle :). Are you ski touring, or resort sking? Do you run cold easy? If you are on a lift and run cold, I would go Nano Air. Perhaps both if you really need some warmth. Or nano Air and thick merino layer (more than 200 weight). Just my 2 cents. Hope that helps and happy skiing!
@@Engearment thx for replying - Resort skiing. Went with the R1 air hoody and R2. The R2 techface jacket seems to run large in size and i can fit the R1 underneath as it is quite a tight fit. But tbh i think either one of these will do unless on extremely cold days. I don't really run cold that easy, but when i do i can't really ignore it *haha*
I wear a R1 air with a Nano Air vest. This setup works well for me. I'm tempted to get a Nano Air Hybrid this season though.
Maybe you just misspoke, but the R1 fleece is more breathable (as one would expect)... that's why Patagonia put it under the arms and on the back of the Nano-Air Light Hybrid Jacket.
Yes. Your are right. We have reviews up on the hybrid light as well. Really great hoody.
I am curious! If you could only have one Patagonia( jacket, fleece) for your everyday use to meet most needs, WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE? Thanks for your thoughts..
Good and tough question! Hard to say as we have so many different conditions we test gear in... I find that I grab the Nano-Air the most. Just used it last night for camping. And it is several years old! Hope that helps!
@@Engearment I’ve often thought about this in my quiet time LOL and everyone’s needs vary but I’d say the R2 tech face. I’m sure everyone will mention a mid layer
I have both without hoods. The R1 air is comfortable but it stinks terribly! Enough that I almost never wear it. The Nano air jacket is my favorite. Works like a sweatshirt to lounge around the house, as well as wear as an insulating layer under a soft shell for doing fun stuff outdoors.
Spot on! I feel like mist fleeces stink pretty fast. To be fair, I stink pretty fast too LOL. But I absolutely love the Nano Air. Like you said - great from couch to the outdoors. It just works.
is it resistant to sparks? is it easily flammable?
Hello Pablo! I have not tried to burn the jackets, yet. LOL. I would imagine they are not very flame retardant.
@@Engearment 🤣🤣I mean sparks by the bonfire and stuff
@@PabPapp1 😆😆 gotcha! Neither of these would be very resistant to sparks. Perhaps the R1 air would be better?
I usually try and wear a less quality, and thicker weave material when working with fire. 🔥🤘
nano air light would be a better comparison, the r1 air and nano are in different classes...
Are they? I wear them both often for similar activities.
Stay tuned for spring 23. We are testing the Nano air light R1. Video up on our CZcams channel.
The air fleece is much more durable. Rips, burns, etc.
That’s good feedback. Much appreciated. I have not had any rips or burns with either jacket, yet. Thank goodness!
hy i need to move out of my house and i "plan" to live on the street for some time ....i want to spent my last money on quality outdoor gear to make the trip pleasant as possible ....in the last 10 years in my city it didn't get colder as -15 degrees celsius but these temperatures are very rare, last 2 years coldest day was around -7 degrees celsius .... i want to have all the gear that's necessary but as less as possible, so that everything fits into a backpack, also i want very good stuff but not the supa most expensive .... i'm not 100% done with the planning of the whole wardrobe so far but for lower body i plan right now to have 2-3 pairs of icebreaker 260 tech leggings as underwear/first base layer, 1 jogging pant, 1 patagonia torrentshell pant, 1 basketballshort, 3-4 pairs of merino socks (don't know which one so far) and maybe some full leather impregnated basketball shoes....for upper body i plan 2-3 icebreaker 260 tech ls half zip, a warm merino zip hoodie, patagonia nano-air jacket, patagonia torrentshell jacket ...a pair of gloves and a merino beanie ....this wardrobe should easily be versatile enough for 99% of the days around the year but do you think it will be warm enough if i'm inactive and the temperatures get around -15 degrees celsius? ...do you have some other wardrobe recommendations for my "outdoor adventure"? i'm very thankful for a response
Sounds like you have planned this our very well. I am impressed with the thought you put into this. -15C looks like 5F for us over here. I would like to see you get a puffy (synthetic or down) and some mittens too. I hope your nest steps are safe and rewarding. Take care of yourself :)
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Whoever designed that chest pocket...looks like a patch done by colorblind person.
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Hei Q doesn’t work very well. The same company makes another product that works much better. Patagonia use to use Polygene which works great. They need to to use Polygene or the Hei Q equivalent.
Glad it is not just me! I agree with you on going back to the Polygene.
This comparison has no sense. It’s like orange and apple. Let me know if I am not getting the point of it.
Nope, you are entitled to your opinion :)
We have been asked by our audience what the difference is with these two articles of clothing. So we made the video. Both are great mid layers and/or touring pieces. So, there is the reasoning.
@@Engearment thanks a lot for your return! Now I feel like I was a little rude, sorry. It makes sense from this perspective. All the best and keep this great work!! 🙌🏼
@@jpg1789 all good my friend! I appreciate the kind note and support. Take care 🙌
R1 Pullover under Nano-Air.
All you need.
Good call on that set up.