Read up on the Budd Metroliners.. Amtrak couldn't wait to throw them in the trash for their god awful reliability... At least we got some cool cab cars to remember them by
I rode on the last "non refurbished" car before they were taken out of service. Rode one heading to phillies game and another when I left early since it was raining. The driver who drove the last one had been with PATCO for 30-40 years. PATCO made sure to let the riders know which trains that day would be the old cars too.
It’s interesting some cars managed to keep the old motors. Also can easily distinguish the former single motors now formed into married pairs. The other good thing is that they kept a front window in the full width cab.
It because the Alstom got a lot of DC Motor From Retired Metro North M1A and Put them inside the Patco car Their very similar and built by the same company
My favorite. Those Budd cars acceleration is crazy, they sound beautiful even after the rebuild, and Patco still the only success story of passenger rail in South Jersey. Riverline was initially successful but has faded. The ACL is what it is. The GCL will likely never exist because of pushback.
As for westmont wrong railing, they are working on some rail work so often trains are on opposite side in that part of the line. Did you film this on a weekend?
I remember those days. It was preciously around the same time NJT sent out out a press release of sorts openly inviting trainspotters to their platforms and if anyone gives them crap about to report it. Yeah, Patco used to be down right vicious about photographing their trains.
Can anybody shed some light on this: I heard from someone that the Alstom remanufacturing program had a lot of problems. Is that true and, if so, what were the problems?
I don't know the exact details but apparently the new software didn't mesh well with the older DC motors, causing system issues. Though from what I understand these have been pretty much fixed by now
It's a subway. It has an operator, no conductors, no on-board fare collection or ticket-checking, frequency is 10-15 minutes apart as opposed to an hour apart. Meets the definition of a subway.
Love those stainless steel stripe subway cars. Anything built by Budd is just cool and seems to never break down like the new stuff does...
They arent subway cars. They are EMU Railroad cars
Read up on the Budd Metroliners.. Amtrak couldn't wait to throw them in the trash for their god awful reliability... At least we got some cool cab cars to remember them by
@@ROTE No, they are subway cars.
Corrugated.
Significantly increases rigidity and strength.
Does anyone agree that the PATCO Speedline should appear as a route, trains and all, in Train Simulator 2021~2022?
That would be fantastic
I rode on the last "non refurbished" car before they were taken out of service. Rode one heading to phillies game and another when I left early since it was raining. The driver who drove the last one had been with PATCO for 30-40 years. PATCO made sure to let the riders know which trains that day would be the old cars too.
It’s interesting some cars managed to keep the old motors. Also can easily distinguish the former single motors now formed into married pairs. The other good thing is that they kept a front window in the full width cab.
It because the Alstom got a lot of DC Motor From Retired Metro North M1A and Put them inside the Patco car Their very similar and built by the same company
I just love the fact that this is a CBTC system
I love how they accelerate really fast
Then you should watch Keikyu trains in Japan.
My favorite. Those Budd cars acceleration is crazy, they sound beautiful even after the rebuild, and Patco still the only success story of passenger rail in South Jersey. Riverline was initially successful but has faded. The ACL is what it is. The GCL will likely never exist because of pushback.
actually the GCL took a big step forward recently. Riverline is very successful when there are events in camden which are on hold.
What is ACL? (Atlantic Coast Line?) What is GCL? I am acronym challanged.
@@robertgambling502 Glassboro Camden Line. A line running from Camden to Glassboro using the current Conrail Shared Assets right of way
I ride this all the time to Philly.
Nice, those Patcos are always fun
Looking fresh! Are there any further plans for PATCO in the future, like line expansion, etc.?
west from 15th to 40th, but probably way down in the future.
@@FanRailer that would be awesome for those that work near Penn/Drexel.
@@FanRailer That would require a tunnel under the Schuylkill....seems expensive.
noice vid and i took the patco to lindenwold today railfanning
Didn't know you were in town! Glad you had a fun time!
Very nice video! Well done!
These trains should be 8 cars long to fit the station length!!
What throws me off is how the operator cabs are on the left side, rather than the right side as usual.
Nice. I fanned pacto one at its locust terminal.
Who did the refurb?
Alstom
As for westmont wrong railing, they are working on some rail work so often trains are on opposite side in that part of the line. Did you film this on a weekend?
I filmed it on the date in the description.
GE Motors?
Yes. GE 1255 A1 motors
Nice. PATCO were camera nazis in the early 2000s and I always had issues taking pics.
I remember those days. It was preciously around the same time NJT sent out out a press release of sorts openly inviting trainspotters to their platforms and if anyone gives them crap about to report it. Yeah, Patco used to be down right vicious about photographing their trains.
Can anybody shed some light on this: I heard from someone that the Alstom remanufacturing program had a lot of problems. Is that true and, if so, what were the problems?
I don't know the exact details but apparently the new software didn't mesh well with the older DC motors, causing system issues. Though from what I understand these have been pretty much fixed by now
Nice I'm first! Keep on railfanning!
The Metro North M1A Still live on
The underground stations are so gloomy, put some tiles in and paint your ceiling
Nice man
Sounds like the NS VIRM kinda.
Nice video. Also for anyone wondering, it's a railroad and not a subway
It's a subway. It has an operator, no conductors, no on-board fare collection or ticket-checking, frequency is 10-15 minutes apart as opposed to an hour apart. Meets the definition of a subway.
It is a rapid transit system under the jurisdiction of the FTA, not the FRA, ie, not a railroad.
@@josephheston9238 frequency has absolutely nothing to do with if it's a subway or not, it's a rapid transport system as stated before