Greetings brother. I send love and deep affection from Sidonia Lodge #93 Elyria, Oh USA. I completely understand your feelings I was told that masonry was my own journey. This journey has been a beautiful one but one thing I will add is that it t has been one that I have taken with few human companions. This journey has brought me closer to our creator and the books that masons have are not the only sources that I have used to become a better mason. Knowledgeable brothers are rare so take advantage when you find one and continue your journey. People like you are what makes the world a better place. As the Bible says keep seeking and you will find.
The fraternity puts you in right direction. The choice is yours to go deeper. Blue lodge is the portico of the mysteries. One must study nothing is given.
I can understand your position. I have come to the conclusion that Freemasonry is what one makes of it. My biggest surprise is that climate within Lodges vary considerably and can change dramatically from year to year based on the WM. For me, moving to another Lodge helped me to enjoy a fuller Lodge experience while furthering my own studies.
Greetings as a fellow square. I understand what you are talking about. Joining the organization and expecting to gain this fast amount of knowledge. Is exactly how I felt. But there are many books, lectures that will help. But I found that most of what I was looking for I already knew. Through my own personal studies before entering a lodge. I pray for you brother. I pray that you continue your journey. And continue to work your tools. So mote it be /G\
How are you a square if your body is a hexagram six point star shape.... talk about disseminating wisdom lol and im not looking for a response.... yall trailling behind mens ass for knowledge when all wisdom is encoded in natures designs... ntr is the creative forces technological result... but yall cant see past a mans brains and ass !!! As if man put the sun and moon up
Man you dragged this on from what the title said. Skip to 13m when he eventally tells you. However i do agree with you but youve found the wrong lodge move to another thats what im doing
All the best - it’s really not about lodge meetings in the end. But, each member has the obligation to seek out the meanings of the ancient simple symbols for themselves.
It's interesting, from some of the stuff I've watched from British Freemasons, it seems that recruiting happens fairly often there. Here in Texas, it took over a year of asking, reminding, prodding, etc. To get an application and, much more importantly, the men needed to back my petition. Maybe recruiting is just more common everywhere than I think, who knows. I've only reached my EA, but I hope to turn in my proficiency soon and move to Fellow Craft.
I am not a Freemason, yet, but I plan to. But from what I understand so far from already reading a lot on the subject, is that it seems the actual point of a symbolic and ceremonial mystery group is that there are mysteries that cannot be communicated in simple words and paragraphs, but require intense conscious attention to the experience and practice. If they are honest, it is not that anybody is restricting a hidden essay from you, which would confer the same understanding as the ritual and participation in the group. No, therein you are surrounded by ideas, spirits, signs and symbols which holistically affect your consciousness to the degree that you get involved and seek understanding. You probably should read more, and I’m sure you have by now, but the understanding intended is something more comprehensive, holistic, and embodied, and not something purely heady.
Greetings from Indiana, potential future Brother. I am a member of three Lodges and am open to any questions you may have, if you have any. If not, good luck, and I wish you the best upon your entrance into Freemasonry. Take care sir.
The first place you were "prepared" to be a Mason is in your heart but what makes you a Mason is your obligation. Therefore you cannot be a Freemason without being a member of a lodge. I understand you came to discover the deeper mysteries as well many around you in the fraternity not getting into it. I would like to call your attention to something if I may. I felt the same way until I went through the Royal Arch and when I went through the Scottish Rite I got confirmation that enlightenment and the secrets of the Universe are indeed here in Freemasonry. I started to meet those that had wonderful knowledge and then I started to teach it in my Lodge and the Masonic circles I travel in. The more I did this the more Freemasonry opened up to me. The truth is not what you think, it's not coming to Freemasonry to get something, it's what you give. And that is what life is truly about. Happiness comes from love coming out of you. Not the other way around. Now the Masonic circles I travel in are abundant in everything you said you were looking for but didn't find. It's not in knowledge (although infinite knowledge is here in Freemasonry) it's in the charitas, the helping my Lodge, my brothers, my fellow member of the human family. We do not see the world as it is, we see the world as we are! I believe you missed your opportunity. I made Freemasonry the way I wanted and it opened and revealed itself to me. A fraternity of men who believe in God and wish you to follow the faith your heart loves the best, to help each other create the best version of ourselves for our families, our communities, our counties and ourselves! How can that not be the most important privilege a man can have? Freemasonry has transformed this world and set the tone for democracy, religious tolerance, enlightenment, brotherly love under the fatherhood of God! And we give over $2 million dollars a day to charity. I wish we could have spoken before you left. To say you are a Freemason without a lodge is like claiming to be married without a wife. The most repeated word in all our ritual is... Love!
Well said sir. Each man’s walk in Masonry is his walk , to discover at his pace. I became a Mason to be a part of something bigger than myself. Knowledge is for one to seek.
@@mrjones4194 I'm glad you care to hold this sacred and I agree. The reason I posted that was its in many of our public ceremonies and therfore not esoteric work. But respect. Thank you.
I looked into it but sheriff in village didn't have a heart..id found a kid dumpster diving looked into getting him help cop. Village police chief said he'll get some bad drugs and overdose..I thought im not even going to live hear. Period..threatened to take my car if I bring the kid to the town..i lol..at the stupidity and i let thier village no how i felt..an that he should go volunteer at the breadline
I am a Mason and a Past Master in the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of the State of Georgia (USA) I would like to express my sadness at your experience in your Masonic journey. I have been a MM since 1999 and recieved my 3 degrees as well as served through the chairs in Pennsylvania. I have visited many lodges over the years in different States as well as Canada and England. I state all the above as a preface to the following statements. I am sure that at least one time in your Masonic experience you heard the words "you get out of Masonry WHT you put into it" these words hold a lot of truth. Like you I was interested in the esoteric side of the lodge and at first found the majority of the Brothers I met were content with the fellowship and charity aspects the lodge offered. But as a traveled more and questioned Brothers I met I found there are more than you are giving credit to that do seek the origins, mysteries and original purpose of the Fraternity. There are actually dedicated groups of Masons who meet, research and discuss these matters in hopes of keeps this knowledge alive. I do not know you or your motives but it seems that you expected to walk in and be handed these things without putting in any effort to learn them. I respectfully say to you that knowledge given without effort or price is useless as by working and seeking out makes the information have meaning and also gives some clarity to it. Again I do not know you and am only posting this based on what I saw and heard in you video.
The headquarters for the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry is located in Washington D.C. Heck, George Washington and Andrew Jackson were known Freemasons.
My dad died a Grand Master 32nd Degree recently...I dont know if he was able to denounce masonry before he died because he had dementia at the time of his death. He is having a Masonry rites funeral then a regular funeral.
What? A Grand Master of what - the province he was in? There's no reason to denounce anything about Freemasonry... also there is no such thing as a Masonic funeral...
Hey mate, I’ve not even become a mason, I’ve only attended a few Masonic charity events & lodge Committee meetings. I have already decided freemasonry isn’t for me, in the lodge that I’ve been invited into everyone is over the age of 55 & the calibre of individuals that I have met seem extremely low, for an organisation that markets itself on creating better men it seems odd to see so many of these men inter-bickering…. and tend to be in low level career paths struggling to get through life. Very odd but certainly not for me.
Certainly bickering and such shouldn't be happening, but where someone is in their career has nothing to do with whether or not they are worthy to become a Mason or not. In many cases, the types you are describing greatly benefit from networking with brothers and may be presented with better opportunities. It's not very polite to judge people by assuming they are "extremely low caliber" it's quite demeaning. If these are your thoughts then you are right, it is not for you.
@@OhioFreemason I don’t see how that’s demeaning if it’s factual, I’d say it’s more demeaning to ask for a membership fee (although it may contribute to charity) when large proportions of masons within the lodge need charity themselves.
@@southwest3369 You don't think it's demeaning to describe people, whom you do not know (only by briefly meeting them at an event) as extremely low caliber? That's the epitome of being demeaning toward someone. Unless you're not being forthcoming about what you described, and you've done more than attend public events and have personally got to know people and spent time with them, how would you conclude they are of extremely low caliber?
@@OhioFreemason vulgar language with the inclusion of crude inappropriate jokes referring to sexual acts around women, some of the more elderly members made racist remarks once or twice at the committee meeting when one mason was describing his ex military career, the individuals that I met were almost half pissed they all seem to indulge in high volumes of Guinness beer after most business they conduct. Addressing your other point, it’s seems a bit strange to refer to an individual as the worshipful master & effectively be his servant until you rise through the degrees when that individual doesn’t live or abide by Masonic principles as measurable by the individuals life. My grandad was a MM, either one of two things have happened the fraternity has a serious internal problem or it’s desperate to attract new members due to low membership density thus lowering the bar in candidates they pursue.
Saddened by your experience, you will always by my Brother. Our important work is in the quarries of the profane world and the continual work of own personal rough ashlar. The Torch of the Great Work will continue to burn bright as long as you know where you were truly prepared to become a Mason.
Once a mason always a mason.. This refers to my brothers that took their oath, after taking your oath even if you don’t have a lodge or “home” you will always be a mason. If you never took an oath or went through your ritual you are definitely not a mason. You can be an upright man and live as a mason tries to live daily but you are not a member of the fraternal order and therefore not a mason.
I am the Way, the Truth and Life, mo man comes to the father except through me( Jesus Christ) There is no place, no man, no other entity that can give safety and fill the void in you except Jesus, the Son of the Living God Come taste and see that the Lord is good
I'm glad you resigned. Truth isn't found through men, but in Christ alone. Seek and you shall find. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." *John 14:6* "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." *John 8:32*
You can’t just “quit” an oath made to satan. You have to break it in the name of Jesus with full renunciations. This applies to oaths made by generations before you as well.
True my old man now deceased was a mason they are c#%+s he told me that plain and simple . Put him on a floor like a chess board black and white squares put a knife on his tongue a Nd said don't talk about this that's happened here or we'll come and cut your tongue out. The Mason's date back to the Tower of Babel Nimrod , when G-D bless the name confused the languages he also turned some into monkey's that is why they believe in evolution , animal's treat one another better. They are about taking the TORAH from this world.
Greetings brother. I send love and deep affection from Sidonia Lodge #93 Elyria, Oh USA. I completely understand your feelings I was told that masonry was my own journey. This journey has been a beautiful one but one thing I will add is that it t has been one that I have taken with few human companions. This journey has brought me closer to our creator and the books that masons have are not the only sources that I have used to become a better mason. Knowledgeable brothers are rare so take advantage when you find one and continue your journey. People like you are what makes the world a better place. As the Bible says keep seeking and you will find.
*LUCIFER IS NOT THE CREATOR*
The fraternity puts you in right direction. The choice is yours to go deeper. Blue lodge is the portico of the mysteries. One must study nothing is given.
lucifer is the WRONG direction
I can understand your position. I have come to the conclusion that Freemasonry is what one makes of it. My biggest surprise is that climate within Lodges vary considerably and can change dramatically from year to year based on the WM. For me, moving to another Lodge helped me to enjoy a fuller Lodge experience while furthering my own studies.
Greetings as a fellow square. I understand what you are talking about. Joining the organization and expecting to gain this fast amount of knowledge. Is exactly how I felt. But there are many books, lectures that will help. But I found that most of what I was looking for I already knew. Through my own personal studies before entering a lodge. I pray for you brother. I pray that you continue your journey. And continue to work your tools. So mote it be /G\
How are you a square if your body is a hexagram six point star shape.... talk about disseminating wisdom lol and im not looking for a response.... yall trailling behind mens ass for knowledge when all wisdom is encoded in natures designs... ntr is the creative forces technological result... but yall cant see past a mans brains and ass !!! As if man put the sun and moon up
This is so true.
Thanks man.
Man you dragged this on from what the title said.
Skip to 13m when he eventally tells you. However i do agree with you but youve found the wrong lodge move to another thats what im doing
All the best - it’s really not about lodge meetings in the end. But, each member has the obligation to seek out the meanings of the ancient simple symbols for themselves.
Some of the ancient symbols in Freemasonry are the upside down pyramid sign, the 666 sign, the devil horns signs, ECT.
It's interesting, from some of the stuff I've watched from British Freemasons, it seems that recruiting happens fairly often there. Here in Texas, it took over a year of asking, reminding, prodding, etc. To get an application and, much more importantly, the men needed to back my petition.
Maybe recruiting is just more common everywhere than I think, who knows. I've only reached my EA, but I hope to turn in my proficiency soon and move to Fellow Craft.
Why did you decide to join?
don't say 2 much andrew. They are listening
All of it seems like a bunch of hyped up mystery bs ...
I am not a Freemason, yet, but I plan to. But from what I understand so far from already reading a lot on the subject, is that it seems the actual point of a symbolic and ceremonial mystery group is that there are mysteries that cannot be communicated in simple words and paragraphs, but require intense conscious attention to the experience and practice.
If they are honest, it is not that anybody is restricting a hidden essay from you, which would confer the same understanding as the ritual and participation in the group. No, therein you are surrounded by ideas, spirits, signs and symbols which holistically affect your consciousness to the degree that you get involved and seek understanding.
You probably should read more, and I’m sure you have by now, but the understanding intended is something more comprehensive, holistic, and embodied, and not something purely heady.
Greetings from Indiana, potential future Brother.
I am a member of three Lodges and am open to any questions you may have, if you have any.
If not, good luck, and I wish you the best upon your entrance into Freemasonry.
Take care sir.
Same here keep stum
I was just thinking about this, checking out a lodge in Stockholm
People tripping about mason's but have you heard of the oto?
there really is no difference other than geological. they all worship lucifer.
there is NO SATANIST that IS NOT A MASON AS WELL.
The first place you were "prepared" to be a Mason is in your heart but what makes you a Mason is your obligation. Therefore you cannot be a Freemason without being a member of a lodge. I understand you came to discover the deeper mysteries as well many around you in the fraternity not getting into it. I would like to call your attention to something if I may. I felt the same way until I went through the Royal Arch and when I went through the Scottish Rite I got confirmation that enlightenment and the secrets of the Universe are indeed here in Freemasonry. I started to meet those that had wonderful knowledge and then I started to teach it in my Lodge and the Masonic circles I travel in. The more I did this the more Freemasonry opened up to me.
The truth is not what you think, it's not coming to Freemasonry to get something, it's what you give. And that is what life is truly about. Happiness comes from love coming out of you. Not the other way around. Now the Masonic circles I travel in are abundant in everything you said you were looking for but didn't find. It's not in knowledge (although infinite knowledge is here in Freemasonry) it's in the charitas, the helping my Lodge, my brothers, my fellow member of the human family.
We do not see the world as it is, we see the world as we are!
I believe you missed your opportunity. I made Freemasonry the way I wanted and it opened and revealed itself to me.
A fraternity of men who believe in God and wish you to follow the faith your heart loves the best, to help each other create the best version of ourselves for our families, our communities, our counties and ourselves! How can that not be the most important privilege a man can have?
Freemasonry has transformed this world and set the tone for democracy, religious tolerance, enlightenment, brotherly love under the fatherhood of God! And we give over $2 million dollars a day to charity.
I wish we could have spoken before you left.
To say you are a Freemason without a lodge is like claiming to be married without a wife.
The most repeated word in all our ritual is... Love!
Well said sir. Each man’s walk in Masonry is his walk , to discover at his pace.
I became a Mason to be a part of something bigger than myself.
Knowledge is for one to seek.
Micheal.... So mote it be..... McAllen, Tx #1110
Your first sentence isn’t respecting your ob … you’re writing w,s,l,c 🤦🏽♂️
@@mrjones4194 I'm glad you care to hold this sacred and I agree. The reason I posted that was its in many of our public ceremonies and therfore not esoteric work. But respect. Thank you.
bla bla bla yall worship lucifer
I looked into it but sheriff in village didn't have a heart..id found a kid dumpster diving looked into getting him help cop. Village police chief said he'll get some bad drugs and overdose..I thought im not even going to live hear. Period..threatened to take my car if I bring the kid to the town..i lol..at the stupidity and i let thier village no how i felt..an that he should go volunteer at the breadline
I am a Mason and a Past Master in the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of the State of Georgia (USA)
I would like to express my sadness at your experience in your Masonic journey.
I have been a MM since 1999 and recieved my 3 degrees as well as served through the chairs in Pennsylvania.
I have visited many lodges over the years in different States as well as Canada and England.
I state all the above as a preface to the following statements.
I am sure that at least one time in your Masonic experience you heard the words "you get out of Masonry WHT you put into it" these words hold a lot of truth. Like you I was interested in the esoteric side of the lodge and at first found the majority of the Brothers I met were content with the fellowship and charity aspects the lodge offered.
But as a traveled more and questioned Brothers I met I found there are more than you are giving credit to that do seek the origins, mysteries and original purpose of the Fraternity.
There are actually dedicated groups of Masons who meet, research and discuss these matters in hopes of keeps this knowledge alive.
I do not know you or your motives but it seems that you expected to walk in and be handed these things without putting in any effort to learn them. I respectfully say to you that knowledge given without effort or price is useless as by working and seeking out makes the information have meaning and also gives some clarity to it.
Again I do not know you and am only posting this based on what I saw and heard in you video.
The headquarters for the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry is located in Washington D.C. Heck, George Washington and Andrew Jackson were known Freemasons.
/G\ great response
@@AntiMasonic93And..?
@@Dakewlman1 they all worshiped lucifer.... thats what.
@@AntiMasonic93so.... what is your point???
My dad died a Grand Master 32nd Degree recently...I dont know if he was able to denounce masonry before he died because he had dementia at the time of his death. He is having a Masonry rites funeral then a regular funeral.
What? A Grand Master of what - the province he was in? There's no reason to denounce anything about Freemasonry... also there is no such thing as a Masonic funeral...
Hey mate,
I’ve not even become a mason, I’ve only attended a few Masonic charity events & lodge Committee meetings. I have already decided freemasonry isn’t for me, in the lodge that I’ve been invited into everyone is over the age of 55 & the calibre of individuals that I have met seem extremely low, for an organisation that markets itself on creating better men it seems odd to see so many of these men inter-bickering…. and tend to be in low level career paths struggling to get through life. Very odd but certainly not for me.
Certainly bickering and such shouldn't be happening, but where someone is in their career has nothing to do with whether or not they are worthy to become a Mason or not. In many cases, the types you are describing greatly benefit from networking with brothers and may be presented with better opportunities. It's not very polite to judge people by assuming they are "extremely low caliber" it's quite demeaning. If these are your thoughts then you are right, it is not for you.
I'm afraid I did experience some behavior which I believed unbecoming of a Freemason and which contributed to my decision to leave.
@@OhioFreemason I don’t see how that’s demeaning if it’s factual, I’d say it’s more demeaning to ask for a membership fee (although it may contribute to charity) when large proportions of masons within the lodge need charity themselves.
@@southwest3369 You don't think it's demeaning to describe people, whom you do not know (only by briefly meeting them at an event) as extremely low caliber? That's the epitome of being demeaning toward someone.
Unless you're not being forthcoming about what you described, and you've done more than attend public events and have personally got to know people and spent time with them, how would you conclude they are of extremely low caliber?
@@OhioFreemason vulgar language with the inclusion of crude inappropriate jokes referring to sexual acts around women, some of the more elderly members made racist remarks once or twice at the committee meeting when one mason was describing his ex military career, the individuals that I met were almost half pissed they all seem to indulge in high volumes of Guinness beer after most business they conduct. Addressing your other point, it’s seems a bit strange to refer to an individual as the worshipful master & effectively be his servant until you rise through the degrees when that individual doesn’t live or abide by Masonic principles as measurable by the individuals life. My grandad was a MM, either one of two things have happened the fraternity has a serious internal problem or it’s desperate to attract new members due to low membership density thus lowering the bar in candidates they pursue.
only 10 years to get out hey ???
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Saddened by your experience, you will always by my Brother. Our important work is in the quarries of the profane world and the continual work of own personal rough ashlar. The Torch of the Great Work will continue to burn bright as long as you know where you were truly prepared to become a Mason.
1000 years of fire
Once a mason always a mason.. This refers to my brothers that took their oath, after taking your oath even if you don’t have a lodge or “home” you will always be a mason. If you never took an oath or went through your ritual you are definitely not a mason. You can be an upright man and live as a mason tries to live daily but you are not a member of the fraternal order and therefore not a mason.
I am the Way, the Truth and Life, mo man comes to the father except through me( Jesus Christ)
There is no place, no man, no other entity that can give safety and fill the void in you except Jesus, the Son of the Living God
Come taste and see that the Lord is good
this
We have a 3ft x 5ft painting of Jesus on the west wall of my lodge.
All the best.
I met a mason from NYC. He was deceptive manipulative and a lair. Horrible experience. Wish I can denounce him
@@ianbradshaw1770 what do you mean?
I'm glad you resigned. Truth isn't found through men, but in Christ alone. Seek and you shall find.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
*John 14:6*
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
*John 8:32*
You can’t just “quit” an oath made to satan. You have to break it in the name of Jesus with full renunciations. This applies to oaths made by generations before you as well.
We don't worship Satan I am Christian and the Scottish rite of the 32 degree said we didnt and exposed
@@countryboygamer223 Yes you do. You just don’t know it.
👅🔪
True my old man now deceased was a mason they are c#%+s he told me that plain and simple . Put him on a floor like a chess board black and white squares put a knife on his tongue a Nd said don't talk about this that's happened here or we'll come and cut your tongue out. The Mason's date back to the Tower of Babel Nimrod , when G-D bless the name confused the languages he also turned some into monkey's that is why they believe in evolution , animal's treat one another better. They are about taking the TORAH from this world.
dont threaten him lucifer!
@@SirSquash How did you get a threat from that? Lucifer is a bit extreme my brother 😂😂 take it down a notch it’s only CZcams
@@RudyG78 i know what masons do to other masons who talk.
i know alot more than i let on.
you SNAKES speak through symbols like your lord lucifer.
Weirdo
What!