Struggling to Remove Engines on The FREE Abandoned Yacht
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We started pulling the engines on the free abandoned yacht and ran into a bunch of issues! Luckily while we were taking off the accessory parts we found what caused the engine knock. We reached out to our buddy over at @WillFixThat for some pointers on how to remove the engines, but he gave us some bad news...we need some special tools to remove the prop shaft and to fully remove the engines.
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why water doesnt compress under pressure ... it's molecular shape .. its a 4 sided pyramid ... so locks into a firm structure this is why water ice expands and other ice shrinks
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the easy way to remove the engines .... cut the back end off ... remove the engines ... fix em ... replace them reattach the back end ... but then I dont wok on boats lol
😂🤣 You got to love boats! Matt was ready to fly up to help with removing the shafts! These can sometimes be very tough and can take a few days! Let us know when you tackle it again. LOL
@@kaboom-zf2bl I understand ice water expands but someone explain to me why when you put ice into a glass then put water into the same glass the ice clumps all into one large cube? But when you put water into the glass first then the ice it doesn’t clump up.
Even if the manifolds are rusted on the non rod knock motor I’d still be sceptical on the water galleries in the heads and the block if it’s cast iron
@@melissaandreweason9091 the engine cooling water is self contained. This is the exhaust only cooling, which uses raw water as it's a total loss system.
We need more boat content. Please 🙏
We need more yacht content!!
pull them both and add 2 LS 5.4s in it, Junk Yard motors cleaned up, there are a couple companies that make exhaust manifolds for them, add new intakes and Sniper EFI and call it a day. cheap and reliable.
Worked for Charleston city boat yard for 4 years. Those "manifolds" are called risers. The radar mount is called the arch.
I dying! "Ever tried this? Nope!" That's my philosophy. It's how I stay busy. You and Joe are both super smart and handy as hell. You've got this!
I have the same boat and did a complete refurbish and restoration over 7 years. Remove the radar arch 1st. 4-5 nuts on each side. Decouple, disconnect everything, and lift. You can lift it without removing the arch but back in is WAY easier to align with arch out of the way. I am a Cruisers Yacht Espirit expert. I have had the entire boat apart and back together. If you have a MEFI-2 computer on the old engines, I will purchase it from you. I could save you hours of fun….
Why waste money on old boat
@@trentfreeman2373 That boat new is about $350k-420k. Restored I did everything for about 40k-50k. Not to mention the challenge.
@@trentfreeman2373 that's what my wife said till I took her to the local boat dealership. I'm going to be into my 22ft I/O for less than $7k with trailer & new motor. Similar boat new was $80k and up. Sweat equity...
@@trentfreeman2373 did you come on the the chat of a video about restoring an old boat to troll someone about restoring an old boat?! Maybe you are watching the wrong videos!! Absolute kudos to anyone that takes on a project like that and sees it through to the end!
Sounds like you need to get ahold of this guy.
Glad to see a boat update finally! Been waiting, love the 401 but its nice to see a different project. Id pull and go through both engines to be safe, less headaches down the road and with how much of a hassle it is to pull, might as well do them at the same time and make it easier
Don’t forget to polish the golden rivet.
The yacht, what a surprise! Man, it's been a while. You know, life is about trial and error, otherwise we won't learn anything. Keep pushing, it will work out! Sending you love and have an Amazing weekend everyone! 🙌🏼❤🔥
We definitely learn a lot from our projects ! Thank you for supporting Brother !
@@rebuildrescue Can we name the Yacht Boaty Mc-Boatface??? PLEEEEEASE???????
@@Rekuzan what? And why?
@@Rekuzan sounds very familiar, like a Sydney ferry. lol
@@cammos It was a British oceanographic vessel launched recently and they thought it would be a good idea to let the general public name it! They didn't name that of course, but instead named one of the smaller detachable boats that instead! Boat Mcboatface, LOL!!!
another way i remove the output hat coupler is to put a socket 5/8 inbetween and press out by sandwich the three or four bolts together and it will push shaft out a little bit of work but no press needed, you should only have to remove bolts and shaft will slide back but the hat needs to be removed to remove shaft . engine should pull without removing shaft but to refurbish shaft remove the hat before pulling moto rand trans or you will need the press
It's called a learning curve. You've got this.
Stay focused on the 401
The reason those manifolds are so corroded is from saltwater.they were never properly flushed regularly.the blue lettering on the engines indicates its for saltwater
Yeah, I was going to say that. I live on the gulf coast, and have made that mistake. I only did it on my 2nd boat (my 1st was an outboard), though, because it can be costly. Luckily, I only had to rebuild one engine.
The manifolds are fine. it's the cartridges inside them that are rotten. That's what he was pulling apart and crumbling. They are little radiators inside that manifold. they have the antifreeze from the engine circulating inside them. The outside water circulates around the cartridges to cool the antifreeze. It's two separate circulation systems that interact with each other in that unit. It's called a "heat exchanger" !
@@fposmith what would cause the cartridges to break down aren’t they made to withstand salt water?
Nice to work on something that just sinks, doesn't crash, if you make a mistake, huh? :)
Good luck y'all!! God Bless y'all!!
Be brave, eyes open! Thanks for the motivation today!
Thank you for bringing positivity to the channel Brother !
I worked on one of these some years back. It was a similiar yacht with two engines. Only one engine had to come out. Basically that shaft going into the teansmission is splined just like most driveshafts on cars/trucks going into their transmissions. We used two 2 ton bottle jacks on each side and that pulled the shaft out strraight. We rented a forklift to raise the engine out of the boat.
Very simple.
You had A&P's to help with the plane - get Matt to come over when he can to help through this phase.
For anyone wondering, these are v-drives., that run a drive shaft down to the prop via a bevel gear set, the transmission sits forward of the engine, was a design to get the engines further back in the boat, maybe can make a better wake., not really sure why it’s used on this boat, a pair of bravos on the back would be more economical, and much easier to service.. although I don’t have a lot of experience with v-drives, maybe it’s a area of the country thing?? Seems rich has owned at least a couple in his area..
The hard part isn’t taking it apart! The hard part is getting it back together when you don’t know how it comes apart!
You got that right it can be tricky take lots of videos & pictures!
Im always relieved...when u finally start to put back together..... Seems faster than the tear down. And u know your half way to the finish
Just haul the whole boat to Matt's shop and work on it there :)
Use the telehandler to pull the prop! No special tool, special telehandeler!
Boy I'm glad you put those clamps on says a lot of headaches but keep checking them Jim Swanson Oregon Ohio
A good trick to get radiator and heater hoses or any rubber hose off or on easily is to break it loose with a hose pick tool and shoot some brake cleaner under the hose and it will slide right off or on. Brake cleaner is like putting ky jelly on the hose. Nice part is it dries and leaves no residue. Just make sure it is still wet when removing or installing hose because once the brake cleaner dries the hose will stick again.
Boats are a huge pain to work on. Good luck with getting the engines out!
Fingers crossed!
@@rebuildrescue Just pull out the quick disconnect pins and give it a yank, right?
Been waiting for this thing! I love the boat!!
We hope you enjoy, thank you for stopping by !
That boat will work perfectly in the bay to watch air venture 24!
You’re right. Every job I go after on my car is new. I have a general idea of how it should go. Always interesting.👍🏻
Rent the Telehandler after you get it ready to pull so you don't have to repeat over and over. A learning experience hopefully with no repeats
The exhaust did not "suck water". Marine exhaust are water cooled. Water is circulated around the exhaust manifold and then injected into the exhaust outlet hose.
I'm a retired heavy equipment operator and never heard the term Telehandler until I started watching youtube , we always just called them Forklifts , most trade halls use the term forklift also .
Joe has the hat like he is ready to get out on the water.
ive used those forklifts before, i never new you could crabwalk them
I have missed the yacht episodes, thanks for putting another one on 😎
Glad you like them! More to come as soon as we can!
Counter rotation is more about reversing than going forward.
Thank goodness someone on CZcams finally used a actual lift strap instead of a ratchet strap. As a former safety director I’ve lost track of how many injuries I’ve investigated due to someone using a ratchet strap as a lifting strap. The warning and instruction labels on ratchet straps specifically say they aren’t to be used for lifting.
Who cares they can use what ever they want its there stuff they want to ruin it that's on them.
@@jerrywilcox9890that’s fine if you are working on your own stuff. It’s not fine if you have employees you risk. And not that I am complaining about how they do anything really. I’m just saying you can’t half ass it when other people stand to be hurt by your decisions.
@TKC_ that's all they ever do lol
@@jerrywilcox9890 In my opinion it’s not even good when you are working alone. It’s dangerous either way. But definitely shouldn’t be done if you have people either helping or employees.
@philliphwhirley2574 oh well its not up to you
it was really cool meeting you in person today keep up the awesome videos
Love it. I love planes and boats. I don't fly anymore but I still go boating. Great to see you back on the boat. Love your Channel; Russ from Montana.
We are glad you enjoyed the episode, thank you for supporting us and our different projects Russ !
Now if we can just make this a flying boat.
A 1 ton chain hoist chained close to the fork will give you plenty of room to pull the engine.
Well engineered if it comes out as one assembly - Was a good lead engineer - most aren't that smart when it comes to common sense!!!
Glad to see you working on the yacht. Prop shaft looks like it will give you some trouble but if the wright tool it should make it easier
Thanks
Tim
I have been waiting on a new video of the Yatch! Thank you all, i really enjoy your channel and especially the 401 :)
We are glad you enjoy it! Thank you for watching!
I've been waiting with you but 8 months is about wore my Butt out
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10:11 I modyfied a hook for exhaust rubbers to losen up hoses. I just flatened the tip a little bit that it slips better under it.
I was wondering when we were going to get an update on the yacht, a pleasant surprise for Canada Day, lol.
We hope you enjoyed !
Hose picks will make removing old hoses waaaaay easier than using a screwdriver...and they're cheap :)
Thanks !
im excited to see this tool!
Jayson please read the threads. The article on zinc anodes is dead on. The combination of abuse on both engines is apparent because of lack of flushing and anode replacements have destroyed both of those engines.
I had a 2021 36 Beneteau Antares 11 "Sea Phever" with twin 300 mercury engines. The guy I sold it to never flushed it or replaced the zinc. It’s now for sale for about half of what I sold it to him.
It’s been a while, love this build, time for an update 🙏🏼
I have never worked on anything in my life that was more of a PITA than a boat engine. I believe the proper removal procedure is to wrap a chain around the engine, raise it up about 15 feet and shake it until the boat falls off.
Great to see you working on the boat! Same engine as me and I've been doing all the work myself with absolutely no idea too 😅
Great to see an update on the yacht. I can tell you one thing , the guys who designed the installation were never going to have to work on it. Just like the technical writers on aircraft maintance manuals. Two things they could have done. One was fit out drive assemblies, pull them off from outside and remove the engine. Two, fit the engines 180 degrees to the way they're fitted now and fit a 'V' drive gearbox and prop shaft. Very common system in the UK and still used. But you got Joe on the job with you, between you you will get them out. Now getting it all back together.......
Those are called risers. They sit on the manifolds. Also those hoses are extremely expensive. The last manifold riser job I did took 24 hours it was so corroded. All bolts snapped in the head with a boat that the engines were inside the cabin. No room. Big headache.
Wow , y'all just reminded me why I happily quit working on these monsters for a living !
This video filled my heart with joy, so glad I don’t own a yacht
The 2 happiest days of a boat or RV owners life: the day they bring it home, and the day they sell it.😅
Or the other conventional wisdom about boats, a boat is a hole in the water that you throw money into.
@@timkaldahlYes it can be a pain in the butt sometimes. But it always gives a great big smile when I fire up the engines, take off the lines and leave the marina for a great weekend at anchor at some location of choice.
If you can, please do a video of the tool building, too. I find it very interesting. Thanks! 😁
Love your videos Jason, very interesting. One point, have you had someone inspect the interior hull on this thing? The Car Wizard bought his first yacht pretty cheap a couple years ago, rebuilt one engine, replaced the outdrives, did a lot of other work and then found deep in the bilge the hull was rotten and not repairable even though it looked great on the outside. He wound up selling it for parts.
In the words of Jimmy's World, _What could possibly go wrong_ ? 🙂
Good call on stopping. I've dug projects into much deeper holes just trying to get something done when I didn't all the right equipment.
I don't have a plane, but I have a boat. I have bought a lot of tools and spent a lot of time working on it. It sucks. At least you can get in there with the engines, I have to do a handstand under the rear seat in a tight place to do anything. It gives me a real appreciation for how tough the boat mechanics are! I fix cars for a living, I would HATE being a boat mechanic! Drinking a cold one while watching the sun go down on the water makes it all worth it somehow. Good luck guys! I am watching with genuine interest!
Nice! You're going to have a beautiful plane and a boat! You ha everything covered 😂
Be careful! Good Luck!
Thank you, safety first !
Easy peasy! Shafts come right out
Been hanging for a boat episode. Keep up the good work guys
If it has outsides you have to pull the outside off be for you can pull the engine
It's been about time Jason I've had 2 grandchildren conceived and born from the last vedio
Maybe I am early to say this but I would remove the prop assembly's first because it would be good to service them too and would make the engine removal easier. Good luck otherwise.👍
I agree both props, those 96's sound like a good deal.
I believe those two 700 hp engines AND the blowers would sound like a 747 taking off and generate enough hear to melt a glacier???? LOL
The video was fantastic !!! I loved seeing you start to develop your love hate relationship that comes with boating !!! lol
Hang in there guys, you'll get it.
Finally! Another yacht video
I do t know much about boat engines but I know lots about the trailers they sit on, one piece of advice I highly recommend to keep the bearings on the trailer running smoothly is to not install bearing buddies/trailer buddies they leak lots of water, since I started working at a trailer repair shop I have not seen a single trailer with buddies on that has not had damage to its bearings, also the two piece dust caps are just as bad only put fully enclosed dust caps on
I believe the props rotate away from each other at the top. This helps push the stern sideways when turning using one prop forward and the other reverse in a confined space or when docking.
I would imagine it has bow thrusters.
Counter rotating props help keep the boat going straight forward. They also use counter rotating props on twin engine aircraft for similar reasons. As far as turning and/or reversing I can’t say.
LOT OF HARD WORK SIR WITHOUT A SHOP... GOD BLESS
You got this. After doing the 401, this will be a piece of cake.
Lol, very good point !
Earlier this morning I found myself looking through CZcams thinking man it’s about time for another rebuild rescue video so I was happy to see this although I was hoping it would be airplane related. Still super cool! Anyway thanks for the awesome videos!
We'll be back to the plane soon David ! Thank you for watching and we are glad you enjoyed !
Trial and error is the best way to learn
Going on a road trip in the morning. Going to retrieve a free airplane. My first airplane!! So excited!!
Keep us updated, good luck !
@@rebuildrescue Thank you, Jason and the gang. Wishing you all a safe and happy Independence Day.
Made it home with the free airplane and I have the logs. Now begins the restoring process.
Jason...I have a feeling your yacht had a wave come over the stern and flooded those motors
I have twin 454s in my big boy and it was an ocean boat saltwater it did the exact same thing the risers were rotted out and I had to replace one block. Freshwater does not do that it's a saltwater issue risers are not cheap and some of them are very hard to find I'm still looking
Lol this was so entertaining! FYI heat gun is very useful when removing and installing hoses.
You say my guys are looking at me and Joe laughed ! Was that a sawsall in his hands ? I just spilled my coffee LOL !
No, no experiences with boats. Been on a few but that's it. Given what I saw, I would remove both engines and reservice them. One is likely going to have to be rebuilt or replaced if water got into it. Looking at the mount points? Yeah there is allot of corrosion and it's more than likely they will have to be replaced. I just wonder what it really looks like in the engine bay. Corrosion in boat would be basically the same as a plane. It's not good. Vehicles you can let some of that go but not in those.
Great work, new subscriber. Looking forward to the next installment.
It looks as though they never flushed those engines with fresh water after their saltwater excursions.
As Tim the tool man Taylor said!!! More power!
shafts move up and down. notice motor mounts have pitch adjustment screws on them.
Thanks been waiting for a boat update for months!
This is what it looks like when a salt water boat never gets flushed out.
Growing up I was always taking stuff apart to see how it worked. ( just in case Austin)
Build a portable gantry crane with wheels , you will use it a lot
The boat rebuild is great, but whats happening with the 401?
Been waiting for this one! Love the boat series. It’s nice to see that leg legging like a leg should leg again 😂
We love the boat series too, and even more enjoyable without crutches 🤣
@@rebuildrescue Without a doubt, I am glad to see that you are making a good recovery.
@@rebuildrescue hopefully we won’t have to wait so long for another boat episode😉
yesss I have been waiting soooo loooooonnnngggggggg
great to see you back on the boat at last , i bought my own cruiser yatchts boat while you were away and spent several weekends in the engine bay servicing the engines and heat exchangers/ chargecoolers so i feel your pain . i was a boat noob too lol
Awesome, how is it going? It's super time consuming but the result will be worth it!
@@rebuildrescue mine is all back together now and it runs sweet , but its unreal how little room you have to access things in there , i ended up with loads of cushions to lie on to try to get to places , i have a slight leak on one of the shafts but it will have to wait until its out of the water as it will be a bugger to get to .
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Next time on Rebuild Rescue: we rebuild a tele-handler so we don't have to rent one anymore. Good luck getting those engines out!
I sense in a few epsiode we are going to see Jo stnadning next to the Boat with a sander looking defeated;-) Good luck Jo We luv yea
Nice to see a video about the yacht must have been nice working on it again but without having any pain 👍🏻
A 90 degree pick ran once around those exhaust hoses between the exhaust riser and the hose and they pop right off! Lol those wet stacks can put water into the cylinders but it’s super rare and usually only happens when a marine engine diesels. Then they will hydrolock an engine!