Star Trek The Next Generation Ruminations S4E12: The Wounded
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At the end of Picard's meeting with Maxwell, he calls Worf into the room by saying "Our guest is leaving", and then he turns his back on Maxwell and just stares out the window. I interpret that scene as Picard being so utterly disgusted with Maxwell that he can't stand to look at him anymore. It's a very chilling scene, particularly coming from Picard.
Discomondation, dismissal.
Yea, I don't think Maxwell was right even if those ships were covert military because they were not at war. It would be like someone destroying the Enterprise in a time of peace simply because the Enterprise was a strong fighting ship.
This one for me is a good episode which with the benefit of hindsight, watching DS9 and your rumination, has now been elevated to a great episode for me. Love O'brien so having him be a focus is a treat.
Your talk about how the chase and battle were done on screen rather than actually watching the real battle was very true and something I didn't really understand but still appreciated. The first couple of times I watched the episode I thought that approach was interesting and different but I didn't really understand why, being so young and not having the mentality to analyse what I watch much, but it does make a lot of sense and does convey that feeling of being so distant from the events and not being able to do anything, all you can do is sit there and watch and be narrated to.
As a side note, when you were talking right at the beginning about how this is the first time the Cardassian war was brought up despite only having ended about a year ago. My personal head canon for that is that the war was so insignificant for the Federation in the grand scheme of things that it just never came up. It was called a border war afterall, that strikes me as a minor skirmish that wasn't worth the Federation's full attention and was more of an afterthought. Afterall, as we learn in DS9 the Cardassians, when they're not being held up by the Dominion, are a bit of a joke when it comes to tech and military might.
"It's an O'Brien episode that introduces the Cardassians, has long-term political ramifications and is about preventing a war. Of course I love this episode !!! Anyways..." (laughs)
Took the words right out of my mouth, Lore. :-))) :-)
"It's not you I hate, Cardassian. I hate what I became because of you." - Poor, poor Miles ! :-(
I like Riker and Picard look at each other when they found out that cannot scan the Cardassians ship. And at the end when Picard tells Cardassian Dukat(not Dukat): "We will be watching"
"I know it's weird to say that" and "I know that is a weird thing to say", included in each rumination. Certainty. Stability. Reliability.
Really good O'Brien episode.
It's a pity Trek wasn't big on continuity. We should have seen more of the Federation's enemies looking to exploit their vulnerability after Wolf359. We should also have seen a change in Federation culture towards a more militant posture. "The BORG are out there! Enlist today, so you too may defend your home, like the brave heroes of the Enterprise! Would you like to know more?"
On the other hand, W359 had a loss of 39 ships. Later in this season one of the Duras sisters claimed "20 starships isn't enough to wage war." I'd like to think the Borg Cube cut right through Federation territory at such high speed, that the Feds simply didn't have time to muster their entire fleet.
I always thought it was heavily implied that the "war" with the Cardassians was more akin to a series of border skirmishes as opposed to a full blown ongoing war.
Hearing Lore mention the war with Cardassia and "about the middle of season 3" made a lightbulb go off over my head.
What if the war with Cardassia never happened in the original timeline but was a result of the events of "Yesterday's Enterprise"? Maybe what went forth after that episode was in fact a third timeline--one in which Sela exists and Starfleet and Cardassia were at war, thus they were never mentioned before season 4.
Just a thought.
This has always been one of my favourite TNG, and across all the various Trek series. You already hit on the reasons why and the complexity of the plot, and Maxwell and O’Brien singing the Minstrel Boy was a wonderfully poignant ending.
Ok. Before I've even watched this I have to say that I have been looking forward to this rumination even more than Best of Both Worlds. I LOVE this episode. I learnt the entirety of Minstrel Boy (not just the small part sung in this ep) because of it and I sing it when shit is going to hell and I just need to strap my boots on a little tighter and carry on.
(Comment before watching Lamentation)
Yes! Yes! One of my favorite episodes, it has 3 things going for it
3. Introduces the Nebula class, yeah.
2. Introduces the Cardassians, glad they get rid of that stupid Crown thing later
1. It's a Chief O'Brien Episode! Yeah!
"It's not you I hate Cardassian. I hate what I became, because of you" epic.
So much good stuff, the tactical display, Captain Maxwell's performance, even the two other Cardassians under Mark Alamo were good actors, and that cute little song O'Brien sings while Kieko makes dinner.
One thing I think is worth noting is that Maxwell's position would have still been the... shall we say ' the more wrong one' even if Picard had taken greater action to catch out the Cardassians. Because Maxwell was blatantly psychologically unstable, and I think Picard recognised that. Maxwell basically starts to ramble and lash out during his meeting with Picard and at that point Picard rationalized "you know what, it doesn't matter if you are right because you are just a danger to yourself and your crew at this point and I need you to get away from here." I think in all honesty Maxwell wanted a war to kill as many Cardies as he could but subconsciously he also had a bit of a death wish.
I don't think it's really a question of whether Maxwell's suspicions were right or wrong, but rather that it wasn't his place to make that call. That's not how a military chain of command works.
@@timf7413 Maxwell acted akin to how the Japanese officers in the Kwantung Army operated in the 1930s. They made policy on their own and the Center often had to conform to decisions made by Colonels and Majors.
Between O'Brien, the Cardassians, Alaimo, and the rather dark ending, this feels like the zeroth DS9 episode. I think they refer back to his war experiences a couple of times - "Tribunal" and "Terok Nor"?
The lack of a crew on Maddox's ship is rather noticeable (and of a bridge) - I guess the budget didn't stretch that far. Anyway, another strong episode. "We'll be watching"...
Now if the BORG threat were to be taken all the way as it should, this is where all galactic powers with any shred of sense would cease their infighting and prepare. The idea that Wolf-359 was taken as an opportunity for military conquest is roughly the equivalent of the Batarians - having the understanding that the Reapers just tried to invade the Citadel, taking the opportunity-- you know what, scratch that; that actually does make a lot of sense, but it also serves to show just brutally shortsighted second world powers can be.
Maxwell (along with Jellico) is one of those characters i would have really liked to have seen more of. And you had the perfect backdrop for it with DS9 and the Dominion War, but i guess all the royalty crap along with the anti-continuity moronity they were still pushing made it a thing never. Captains who are flawed and are capable of being wrong are made more interesting for it, not less. And it's just frustrating how every once in a while they bring out a gem that's full of promise, and then just shove in the memory hole, never to be seen again.
I think it would be interesting if Garek was the one who provided the evidence that Cetlek III was a military base. When the Cardassian military complained, that's when he was exiled from the order.
The film "Patriot Games " comes to mind when it comes to watching a satellite image of a battle/assault.
This is probably one of the coolest ways that the franchise of Trek changed. The way it kind of zoomed in the camera while also expanding the set, so to speak.
I’ve had a new insight into replicated vs hand-made food. Troi mentions at one point that replicated food has artificial additions of nutrients and flavors, and that to get “real” ice cream: she has to override a safety lockout. Imagine that your replicated food is made individually. Each ingredient has to have the same and the proper proportions of nutrients, vitamins, calories, etc., so unless you program a full meal: each ingredient is going to have warped textures, flavors, and consistency, because the replicator thinks each one is being eaten alone, so it has to add to each of them like it would to a full meal.
I always wondered if Maxwell got his command back when the Dominion War started.
Me too. Would make sense.
Me too!
Lore, I can relate to you fumbling over your worlds brother. It's pretty much every day for me(especially if I haven't consumed half my weight in caffeine before hand) to the point where my family has a running joke; if you ramble on long enough you nod your head at the end, say "Plus Tax" and move on. Probably something Grand Pa picked up somewhere. All I gotta say is you haven't fumbled over your words for real until you do it in a southern accent(pity me and my fellow Arkansans). Power to you brother and our fumbling words of power!
After Picard wouldn't back Maxwell he was disappointed and angry. Nearly as ticked as when Andy Dufresne escaped.
@ 13:33
When he confronted the aide about accessing the Enterprise’s computers was one of my favorite bits. I love that actor.
Very cool delivery here in the scene. This dialogue. “What business did you have going NEAR one of their computer?”
Great actor. Great episode. First time seeing it this morning and i thoroughly enjoyed it. I’m slowly making my way through TNG. Finished Voyager. Deep Space Nine. TOS. I’m gunna get into TNG too!
This was my favorite TNG episode when it aired and I was 6 years old. Don't know what that says about me. I guess I've been in love with Miles O'Brien all my life. I was probably the only 9-year old saying "hey that's Captain Maxwell!" when watching that guy play an a-hole Warden in Shawshank Redemption. That line Miles says "It's not you I hate Cardassian, I hate what I became BECAUSE of you" haunts me to this day. We are all walking around similarly wounded and often unaware of how we're shaped by that bias.
"Call-um Mean-ee"
You mentioned Mega Man 5. It was the first Mega Man game I ever owned for the NES back in 1992. I cannot now remember whether I defeated Stone Man, Star Man, or Gravity Man first, but I do remember that it took a lot of practice before that first Robot Master exploded into globular fragments.
Needless to say, I liked your video.
Cardassians looked really cool. Especially in ds9, everyone in cardassian make-up became instantnly more hot to me
I think this is one of my Favorite episodes of TNG.
Except for some of the two parters, ones with the borg and data/lore, this is the only one I'd rewatch
The Federation lost 39 ships at Wolf 359. Surely that would be nothing for the Federation.
Space travel is expensive.
Time. That's the cost in the Trek Universe. There maybe no cost for building the ships, no real scarcity of material...just the amount of time it takes to design, build and crew 39 ships. Wolf 359 had Starfleet just throwing ships together into a fleet and praying to whatever deity is listening that Locutus' Cube gets destroyed there. From what I understand, they pulled Refit Constitution Class ships (Academy Training Ships at this point before STO). Think about it...when you're down to Academy Trainers as your line of defense, you are at the Icarus part of your defense plans.
Also, if I remember correctly, Utopia Planita (forgive the spelling error) has only 4 or 5 docks for building and repairing ships. Starfleet has hundreds of ships...at least half might be in for repairs, retrofits or decommission. You would either have to take the time to expand ESD and UP, or make due while sorting out who goes where. If I remember right, it took Starfleet after the Dominion War to replace and recrew those 39 ships. They were just starting to fix this problem when the Federation declared war. I'd like to think the builders there were looking at that announcement and went, "Are you freaking KIDDING ME!!!"
I love this episode as well Lore. Perfectly paced and effective.
IT SMELLS LIKE A BUREAUCRATS OFFICE IN HERE!
This episode is one of my top ten TNG episodes. I liked Marc Alaimo. I liked the guy from Shawshank. Introduction of the Nebula Class. Glad they redesigned that tail fin.
I’d like to know which one off those one off species that didn’t stick that you wish had.
The battle with the Phoenix was so much like when Sisko goes to Cardassia to help hunt down the Defiant. I liked it.
They did it a lot in Battlestar Galactica RDM.
I think that Troi was surprised of his hatred feelings against the cardassians, which is why she took a look at him.
A tough but well written and very important episode. So much of the future of Trek is defined here and in “Reunion.” DS9 was conceived here. O’Brien’s song breaks my own Irish heart.
🚩I wish Lorerunner would do thematic or setting ruminations of Trek after the episode ruminations. Example: compare and contrast the Cardassians and the Romulans. Both are supremely arrogant. The Cardassians are poorer, so more desperate, shameless, exploitative? Alaimo defines them perfectly: on a ship with no shields, he still has the hubris to dictate terms.
I've always thought that preferring "real" food to replicated food was logical. I mean, if you were to, say, replicate yourself a bowl of soup, the replicator would create an exact same copy of the soup you've "scanned" earlier, with a specific amount of salt, pepper, etc. that you'd put in the soup. But, you may not find the soup salty/spicy enough the second time as you did the first time. It's all about the variety of taste, I think. It's the same for replicating fruit. If you were to replicate, let's say, a banana, which would probably come out ripe, since the computer would likely determine that ripe fruit is better for you that unripe, some people may not like that. For example, I have a friend who actively refuses to eat ripe bananas. It's still possible that a replicator would have a setting where you could choose how ripe you'd want your fruit to be, of course, but removing that aspect of choice may not sit well with most people.
Food from communal replicators would probably be on the same level as college canteen food. Sure, there's a variety of choice, but packed lunch sounds a hell of a lot better to me than food that someone else had made. That soup may be the best soup in the world, but how often have you seen salt/pepper/vinegar on tables in ten forward? I don't know, I may just be a wierdo.
A sophisticated episode that maintained tension and drama. One of the better episodes. 'Measure of a Man' was also sophisticated, but ended up a bit dry and weakened by the mediocre guest stars. "Drumhead' was another good one.
Worf's line about trust is one of the great truths of the universe. I suspect I internalized that lesson when I was about 12.
I have for Some time wondered was/is the Cardasians or other races aware of the danger of the Borg?
26:49 I felt he kind of glossed over a part that is extremely profound and remarkable Picard giving the Cardacians secret information on a starfleet ship that he knows they will use to try to destroy that ship. It's especially remarkable considering he doesn't know what's going on because he hasn't heard Maxwell's side of it yet. That must have been an incredibly difficult call for Picard and it resulted in the loss of 600 more lives needlessly. That's just chilling to me and deserves to be talked about and debated more.
especially considering the amount of times in the franchise the protagonist ship was doing something unusual and perhaps something that could be interpreted the wrong way that starfleet wasn't aware of. I don't remember starfleet ever giving the enemy information that would help them destroy the Enterprise or other protagonist ship.
What about Maxwell's crew? Why did they go along his obviously illegal orders to go cause trouble in Cardassian space? Even someone as loyal to him and as prejudiced against the Cardassians as O'Brien sided against him in that situation. They would not have been as distrustful of the Federation's motives and reactions as Maxwell was, they would have insisted that he goes through proper channels. Them following him in his doomed crusade was written in far too casually.
Maybe if O'Brien had been on his ship instead of the Enterprise the last few years he would have reacted differently. Some of his crew may have objected, but either didn't disagree enough to outright mutiny or not in the numbers needed to do so.
Interestingly the tactical display for the Phoenix battle was very similar to the original Pax Imperia video game.
I love this episode!!! It really shows that even with the idea of bias being gone, it takes much more for utopia to actually occur!
O'Brien specifically said he "would have to" use a replicator when making his Irish food for Keiko. I also think that it's hilarious he describes this bowl of mashed potatoes and, to quote George Carlin, "some yellow shit", as being "fit for a king".
I do think replicated food tastes worse, but specifically because each meal is identical down to the last by the molecule. The human body isn't designed to eat identical meals, that's why we experience "food boredom" to prevent gaps in nutrition. That's why when Riker makes eggs in season 2, he says cooking allows for subtle nuances that are lost on the replicator.
Pokemon... pokemon... that's that setting where a ten year old can stay ten for a quarter century right?
The biggest issues I have with the 'war' with the Cardassians are
Cardassian ships are crap, even by early TNG standards. Even the Feds should have been able to crush them easily.
What is the point of the Klingon/Federation alliance if the Klingons don't just jump into the war? You're telling me that the war loving Klingons wouldn't just leap at the chance to fight an enemy who attacked their ally?
I used to have the same opinion until I played a personalized Star Trek mod for Civilization 4. I found that I bumped into the Cardassian Union and all these minor powers in the early and mid 2300s and they would start wars. I basically maintained a stalemate with all of these powers because I was far from my capital and they were relatively close to theirs. Galors were 1:1 with Excelsiors and until I had TNG-era ships built in numbers, it was unwise to bring overwhelming force to protect small colonies at the expense of the core Federation worlds situated near the Klingon and Romulan Empires.
The way the Klingon commander acts when Riker is an exchange officer has always made me think that the Federation-Klingon alliance was relatively new. Maybe they have been on good terms since the Enterprise-C, but their special relationship was a recent culmination of that goodwill.
In the game, I'd build a colony near their space, they'd attack me, we'd each lose about five ships, a cease-fire would go into effect, and then I'd build another colony. The only time there was peace was when there weren't any more star systems to colonize. I think the same thing probably happened on the 2340s-2360's and those raids and fights constituted the Cardassian Border Wars.
A minor war that most civilians don't care about, but that is hard on the military fighting it.
The Cardassian war could help explain things like why the enterprise is the only ship nearby when the events of The Survivors go down - if a large portion of the fleet is occupied with a war, there would be less ships for the rest of the federation. Of course yoi’d be given to wonder why one of the strongest ships in the fleet isn’t on the front line....
+Sid Chicken
Enterprise is not the only Galaxy class around there. Also, this is only season 4 with something that was basically a completely new crew. Especially in a dirty conflict like the Cardassian - Federation war, I can image having more experienced crews (on the Cardassian conflict) on less powerful ships would have preference. Also, Enterprise was a bit of a high profile asset against Romulan incursions.
I don't see many cultural differences between the Romulans and the Cardassians. The Romulans are also portrayed as intellectual, subversive, enslaving, and fascistic. You could swap the Cardassians' plot roles with those of the Romulans, and it wouldn't make much of a difference.
Lorerunner, you're doing a great job of pointing out whenever an inability to beam through the shields is a plot point, but maybe you could also point out when the story allows beaming through the shields, because I honestly can't think of a single time. I'd just be interested.
In Relics, Jordi and Scotty beam through their own ship's shields, which are holding the portal to the Dyson Sphere open.
You have to time the transpoter to the cycling frequency and beam through the gap.
On the subject of Colm's name, the problem is there's three pronunciations, depending where you're from. In Dublin and the surrounding areas, it'd be Cul-um, in most of the rest of Ireland and northern Ireland, it's Colm, like cold with an m not a d, and in the US it can be Cal-um. Given where he's from (Dublin) it's almost certainly one of the first two, and probably Cul-um.
Source - knew someone when I studied music called Colm (from Cork, so the non-Meaney version), and we ended up chatting about mispronounced names one evening, given my surname.
I would like to believe that the federation put in a half hearted effort war against the cardissisn, why because the federation didn't want to make a big deal that a war was taking place. Trying to get new members while a big war is taking place would put off most worlds. Starfleet would like to hit the cardissisn big and force them to the table while federation council just wanted to keep it quite and play the long game. Just my thoughts. Love your work lorerunner. Great channel
Pretty much. It helps explain why the Bajorans are still very distrustful of the UFP even after Bajor is liberated from the Cardassians. They overthrew and chased out the Cardassians effectivelly by themselves, while the Federation only did the absolutely necessary contribution to that war effort off-planet, but not much more. Many Bajorans in late TNG and early DS9, especially the more patriotic or nationalistic types, tend to look down on the Federation as "washing their hands of the whole matter". They're not entirely incorrect, but if I was a Federation citizen or official, I'd probably be hesitant to join in the anti-Cardassian effort as well. I'm already interested in how Lore will comment on these later developments once the "Cardies" return in "Ensign Ro". I love the channel as well. :-)
Summary: When Captain Benjamin Maxwell, apparently goes rogue, the Enterprise is ordered to apprehend him before his actions result in another war between the Federation and the Cardassian Union. O'Brien is his former co-worker and helps Maxwell. Lyrics of the song:
"The minstrel boy to the war has gone,
In the ranks of death you'll find him...
His father's sword he hath girded on,
And his wild harp slung be-hind him...
Land of song, said the warr-ior bard,
Tho all the world betrays... thee...,
One sword at least thy rights shall guard,
One faithful harp shall praise thee."
I love your ruminations. Another great deep dive.
They should have made the Setlik 3 massacre the only major conflict in that war and made it something so horrible that they needed to sign a treaty right away.
But seriously, what built up to Setlik 3, what drove Cardassia to attack the federation. When did we make first contact with Cardassia anyway?
But I want to know, what builds up to it? Seriously they never even touch it.
Personally, I've always seen replicated food as a sci-fi allegory for processed food with the replicator being a microwave. In particular, the in-universe debates over replicated food is a lot like the processed food debates that happen to this day.
One of my favourites. I love O’Brien in it and of course it introduces the best baddies: THE CARDASSIANS
I've always wondered if Riker had unloaded the Children, Civilians, and Science personnel at some star base before using the Saucer Section as Borg bait and nearly as a battering ram.
I never cared for the Andorians until Enterprise. I mean really, they are as comical looking as the Feriengee.
Klingon want to illegally board and search Cassidy's ship: Sweet Man
Maxwell wants to illegally board and search the Cardassian ship: Douchebag
Hmm...really makes you think.
Huh? Who considered him a 'sweet man'?
@@KnightRaymund lore, during his way of the warrior rumination
I've tended to go with Colm, the -lm as in 'elm' or 'helm'. Strangely enough, this episode shares similar themes with 'The Journey', a movie Colm Meaney is in about a key meeting between two leading figures in Ireland. It was a pretty heavy theme, but well handled and one of my definite likes.
I agree that facial hair looks weird on the Cardassians, and I also noticed that their faces are weirdly much redder than they would later be, instead of that cold-stone-gray they would eventually have. Plus their armor is clearly much cruder and less stylized. But I for one do kind of like the weird head-frame things they have here; I agree with the decision to get rid of these rather distracting elements, but I kind of like them as a one-off thing, which IMO looks sort of cool. I'm also happy that the first three Cardies we ever see all clearly look incredibly different from each other; this is something the Klingons and Romulans have historically had a lot of trouble with on TNG.
they only lost 39 ships they had 1000s of them only a few years later inside reasonable travel time of cardassia. They arent gona have a prayer just because 40 ships went down
I'm planning to rewatch "Suddenly Human" shortly, and I'm going to go into it with the idea in my head that the Teralians in that episode maybe should have been Cardassians in retrospect; I'll see if it makes sense to imagine it that way.
I agree that this is a great episode, but it is utterly overshadowed by the one which is coming next - "Devil's Due", one of my very favorites.
Let's not pretend that it was anything other than the makeup design that led to the Cardassians coming back. Same could be said for the Ferengi.
18:46 Replicated plate of carrots vs replicated entrée are two different things. A replicated version of jambalaya as sufficient as it might be would probably not taste authentic. It'll probably be like someone made it who doesn't have a clue what jambalaya should really taste like.
I mean, I would hope the recipes or examples used were checked by those who'd know. But even so, it would be the same every time. Maybe you like a different blend of spices or that natural variation could make eating it more interesting over time.
"Understandably wrong just like Greymane."
Perhaps the sludge of WoW's narrative has killed my memory but I'm pretty sure that 4 years ago, BfA had long since depicted Sylvanas as a genocidal maniac and proved Greymane 100% right.
So... no.
Here's a question... why is kill and stun a thing on a pistol... it's not like one works quicker than the other... and it sure seems that stun works for like a day or something. Plenty of time to take anything prisoner...
After Rumination
I too believe the Cardassian when he says they were told the colony was a military installation, and that the higher ups knew and didn't care, just a good lie to help motivate the troops, helps invoke patriotic defence to be proud of over "Lets slaughter innocents like Klingon pitaks"
The Cardassian computer guy, I think was using his own initiative to get Fed info and Massat really didn't care is all but had to put on the show at least. The guy will be punished for his own incompetence later.
Maxwells comment about the beuracrats office is good, Things would get gummed up in the works -- because of Wolf 359 -- do we have the ships? the resources? Oops, too late they took advantage of us. So yeah, Maxwell was Wrong but for the Right Reasons.
Maxwell should not have been left in Command
About the replcated vs cooked. Well when you cook spaces and the like get cooekd int the meat. so if your cooking meat and onions at the saem time, the flavor soaked int the meat. As with replicated food it wel lthe equivlant of microwave meals. They just taste off
Colm is supposed to be pronounced as "Collum" or "Chullum". If Colm Meany pronounces it that way, I don't know, but that's how it's supposed to be pronounced. It's basically as if you add a "U" between the "L" and "M".
I think it is a horrible idea for any weapon to have both a kill function and a less lethal "stun" function. Like what happened to O'Brien, the user could easily kill somebody whom they did not intend to kill. In today's reality, law enforcement always keeps their normal firearms seperate from their taser guns. In the Federation, suspects in murder investigations who used a phaser's kill setting could have a built in defense by claiming they thought the setting was on stun and was actually on kill or the phaser malfunctioned and killed instead of stunning. I would imagine the Federation prosecutors would have to prove the defendant knew the setting was on kill. That being said, phasers should only be used when deadly force is warranted.
Colm, its Co-lum, cop without the p Lum, or column
What if the zingathi or whatever other race there was in season 1 becamw the cardassians because the writers forgot
One of my favorites!
for me "Ensign Ro" episode is improved version of this one
I want to slap the responsible writer any time the Federation, Starfleet, or Enterprise bend over backwards to appease a clearly inferior potential or former jabronie enemy faction of the week. This is mainly a TNG thing. Case in point: The Cardiassians in this episode, the Talarians in suddenly human, Tzenkethi, Sheliak, Ligonians etc. Same goes for any time we hear about that time back in the day when a federation starship under the command of Picard / Riker / Whoever managed to outwit the Tholians / Ferengi / Random faction that is so powerful that we haven't heard anything about them since a hundred years ago in TOS season 2. Of course we never get to see it because it is just a random throw away anecdote some writer pulled out of their ass without bothering to check canon first. I can just hear Picard thinking "Oh shit, it's the Sheliak! Their 100 year old redressed merchantman ship of the week can really pack a wallop"
Why has he got a bag of carrots to hand?
@19:14 - I've seen a lot of reviews in my day but who the hell just has a random bag of carrots with them?
I come to the conclusion that i don't like NONE of the Cardasians episodes. Hate Chain of Command (that i watched yesterday), the wounded.. Maxwell may be "right" but by go rogue make him an ass.
Maybe that's why i never liked DS9. Also thanks to explain your cook vs replicated as i'm not folowing the DS9 runimations. I agree with you about this point too.
From a modern understanding of microbiology, it makes sense that if you replicate food, it is going to be less appealing - because either the replicator doesn't create living microorganisms in your food, in which case the food is not being altered in exact molecular composition by the action of the microbes in the few minutes it takes you to eat it, the way real food would be, or else (if a replicator has the ability to create living creatures), it does have microbes in it, but it always has the exact same microorganisms every time, because that's part of the replicator pattern. If you eat two different carrots, those carrots are going to be slightly different from each other, because they grew in the ground individually; eating two replicated carrots that are completely identical, you would probably be able to subtly taste that they are too much alike, and your brain would process that as "this is weird, something abnormal here", in a very Uncanny Valley way. Either way, I completely buy this, and I completely buy the science-obsessed Federation bureaucracy being denialists who still insist we should do replicators all the way, instead of giving every ship its own cook and having to deal with naturally-sourced ingredients.
Colm Meaney - you can get away with pronouncing it as Column Meanie.
I do not like the idea of prejudiced humans in _Star Trek_ .
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