Xop Invader Saddle Platform | Detailed Review

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024

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  • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
    @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +10

    I did make one mistake in this video the platform is made in China, Soft goods are sewn and made in Vietnam. XOP reached out to me after I posted this video and let me know that.

    • @smau990
      @smau990 Před 11 měsíci

      No comment on the fracture?

  • @AERIALASSAULT1
    @AERIALASSAULT1 Před rokem +6

    Putting it out was the right decision. I questioned the button height and the amount of platform behind the post at ATA. I wasn't a fan of those features either. Although they did have a explanation that made sense at time

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      Thanks man, You know as much as me how hard it is to post negative reviews sometimes....

  • @personalprojectile
    @personalprojectile Před 4 dny +1

    Spot on. And astm means nothing. Sometimes is just an audit of their process. Sometimes its a repeatable standardized test. There isn't a standardized test for tree platforms.....

  • @pensnut08
    @pensnut08 Před rokem +2

    I really appreciate your honesty!! THANK YOU!!! I think we are seeing what the "race to be the lightest".... Just like xbows racing to be the fastest, the lightest, the narrowest, the smallest etc.... And limbs are blowing up...

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +1

      Your welcome. I always keep it real on here and give a true honest opinion. Sometimes people can't handle that... Unfortunately

  • @darrenbowers3267
    @darrenbowers3267 Před 19 dny +1

    You always keep it real and do a great job congrats to you I value your reviews and honesty!!! Darren

  • @kirkloos8141
    @kirkloos8141 Před rokem +3

    This is why I subscribed and recommend your channel. Always keeps it real and respectful. Awesome job brother!

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      I appreciate that. All I want to do is be a good contributor to the saddle hunting community. Thanks for stopping by!

  • @vitalgroundoutdoors
    @vitalgroundoutdoors Před rokem +2

    Solid review! Valid points presented in an unbiased manner with a level of professionalism. I think you did what most people would do on a platform and again highlighted the good and the bad!! Keep doing you man really respect how you present everything!

  • @pinnaclemainehunters5414

    As it’s know by many, you are one a lot of guys look to for the real deal. I have zero interest in this new wave of xop but have watched all you’ve put out. Maybe I don’t want it but someone does and I can send them this way to at least assess for themselves. I feel like I know you enough to say if that someone had a failure and was injured or worse..you might not like doing these reviews but you’d like it and yourself ALOT less if you didn’t put this out there and the worst happens. Keep doing you bub. We all appreciate it

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      Thank you I appreciate this! That's what it's all about for me. I dont wanna see someone waste there money or get hurt!

  • @user-eq8mn1sb1x
    @user-eq8mn1sb1x Před 6 měsíci +1

    I mainly One Stick but I've been looking for a lightweight platform to use with multiple sticks for cold weather hunts. I was looking hard at purchasing the XOP Invader. I'm glad you made this video I'm probably going with the Arsenal RZR. Thank you and I appreciate your honesty and keep the videos coming

  • @threatcon5
    @threatcon5 Před rokem +2

    I really appreciate your honest review.

  • @kyleveitengruber2368
    @kyleveitengruber2368 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for putting this out . There grown ass men, they ll handle it .

  • @Cloud9Outdoorz
    @Cloud9Outdoorz Před hodinou

    I thought I’d like the rough texturing for grip. But it’s rough on my pack and anything that rubs on it…I have to carry it in a little carry pouch so it doesn’t destroy my pack

  • @brysonturner2481
    @brysonturner2481 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The cracked welds were there before you noticed, I seen them earlier in the video and wasn’t sure if it was just the coating and then a couple minutes the video flipped script… Great review!

  • @michaelkendrick7738
    @michaelkendrick7738 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Back when I was saddle hunting, about to get back into it, I would hang my platform. Once the platform is tightened onto the tree you should stand on top of the I-Beam. With one foot squat down (or whatever it takes) to grab the front of the platform with your other foot. Pull up on the front of the platform with your foot. The platform will drop an inch or so. Now stand onto the platform to level it out. That should tighten down the strap and not give any issues with it kicking out. I hope that makes sense.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před 9 měsíci

      Yeah its called "toe hooking" I didnt toe hook it because the numb nuts at xop said not too, and I followed there instructions explicitly and it still broke. Now they wanna say I jumped on it to break, no way. They run a shady business.

  • @ukjw2
    @ukjw2 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks. You are one of the few reviewing their stuff who isn’t supported by them. Or maybe you are but it’s a very honest review.
    The lack of reviews is pretty concerning when I see the inconsistencies you pointed out.
    I have one of their vanish stands and it weighs like 15% more than they claim. Same with their foldable sticks

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před 9 měsíci +1

      So here is the thing I've learned. Most of the early reviews almost elusively were people who got the platform for free, I won't name names but it's pretty alarming how many of them there are. You can tell who these people are by their alarming bias. Also offering discount codes on there channels for the products. That's essentially XOP buying a positive review. I dont have any relationship with XOP, they actually hate me because I tell the truth and offer honest options on my channel. So far I've heard of 3 other of these platforms failing in the field, so it's surly an issue they need to address.
      Usually XOP's method of thinking is we sell 10,000 platforms and had 10 failures, that's not too bad... and maybe by a percentage they are correct but that's one too many failures for me.

    • @ukjw2
      @ukjw2 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@MichiganGreatOutdoors I have a feeling that this is why they are sold out. They were sold out even before Black Friday.
      I was mostly debating the retrograde vs .5 but I just couldn’t find many unbiased reviews. Actually close to 0. Yours and maybe 1 other on a message board. Kinda odd since they have been out a while. I grabbed the .5. But money is a factor and the x2 sticks did have some solid reviews so I got those as well.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před 9 měsíci +1

      The x2 sticks are nice, I have saw some steps snap in half on the Facebook forums so please tie off when you use them. As you would any stick....

  • @spline8518
    @spline8518 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have used the xop edge for the last 2 seasons it is heavy but is a soiled buy !! Just mu 2 cents . Stay a way from this new version until it gets sorted out !!

  • @SurvivalSavvvy
    @SurvivalSavvvy Před rokem +4

    Thats why I am subbed to you because I want to hear the truth not the fluff.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      Thank you, I really appreciate it. It's hard some times to wanna post negative reviews because the other side always wants to discredit you or make excuses. Im #260 lbs much under the #350 lb rating. Thanks for the comment!

  • @jefferyiles371
    @jefferyiles371 Před rokem +2

    I feel like kick out is due to to deep V. It makes the post almost in the center of the platform and creates a teeter-totter effect

  • @worldstarbinky
    @worldstarbinky Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video this definitely made me change my mind on xop im a big guy as well and im not going to risk it breaking on me, I currently have their edge platform and i was looking for a lighter one great review

  • @dickoutdoors
    @dickoutdoors Před rokem +1

    I watched it a few times, and it looked like you uncammed it when you put your weight on the left foot. Glad you didn't hurt!!

  • @Lonebowhunter
    @Lonebowhunter Před rokem +3

    Great video bro! Thanks for keeping it honest as always !! Keep up the great work

  • @zacchurch502
    @zacchurch502 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the honesty!

  • @danielcowell8346
    @danielcowell8346 Před rokem +1

    I really like your reviews and appreciate them. That being said, you didn't cam the platform the way it states to in the manual. So when you stepped on the back corner while it was improperly cammed, it flung up lord knows how fast and with how much force, and the platform isn't built to sustain that impact. As for the cam strap wear, i did stealth strip it before i used it and no issues with wear. And the low button, they said they tested it in every possible position on the post and that was spot that proved to be the best. Again, I like your reviews and appreciate the channel! Keep up the good work!

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +1

      Well funny thing, the manual us different than the online post they made on how to properly cam it. So which one do you do?

    • @danielcowell8346
      @danielcowell8346 Před rokem +2

      You're right! I apologize. You didn't follow the VIDEO instructions, and those are the ones I had in my head. I just looked at the manual,and it didn't say anything about the lifting up. That's how I've been setting mine. Man, I hope you didn't tweak anything when that thing flipped on you. I haven't had any issues with mine. Camming it according to that video anyway. I really like mine. But stuff like this does make you second guess. Mismatched instructions aren't a good thing. Ever. Sorry again for the false accusation.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      @@danielcowell8346 no worries, i hope yours works out for you 😊

  • @mcparlandoutdoors1196
    @mcparlandoutdoors1196 Před rokem +1

    That platform makes me a little nervous even being what you call a beanpole size guy. I do like the big v cut to fit all size trees. I will pass on this platform. Great info brother.

  • @OneWheelLess
    @OneWheelLess Před 9 měsíci +1

    I saw that thing flexing in the first shot and my first thought is “that thing is gonna fail”. I’m 215, I wouldn’t trust it either. There’s so much flex in that thing it’s gonna fatigue and fail. Maybe they can fix the design

  • @michaeldrout7900
    @michaeldrout7900 Před rokem +1

    I just got mine. Good to know what to watch for

  • @markschultz3218
    @markschultz3218 Před rokem +1

    Great review, I'm glad I found it as I was considering this platform.

  • @tray22
    @tray22 Před rokem +2

    I have one of the XOP Edge and while it is heavy it appears to be the same type design and the button is much higher. I tried to convert it to a rop mod with a cam cleat. That was a failed attempt with the exact same kick out issue you experienced. I also either had it to tight or not tight enough. I have nearly retired my XOP Edge with the exception of duel hunts with my kids in gun season where I am in the same tree as a kid on a hang on platform or ladder. Cause for concern that your welds broke that is really not good.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      nope, im not impressed at all. XOP did let me return it and then once the video came out they were pretty nasty with me about it. I dont think I'll ever buy another stand or platform from them. I have the new sticks and they seem fine so far.

  • @brent8052
    @brent8052 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video!! I have XOP Edge, I love it

  • @pop4725
    @pop4725 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Good honest review, thank you

  • @travislee5417
    @travislee5417 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for doing these reviews. Relieved you had your tether attached.

  • @JamesKrauss-if9dq
    @JamesKrauss-if9dq Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hey Polock , I have a question for you brother? What are you thoughts on XOP ? Are they safe ? And what are you thoughts on the cold world hang on stand ? I know they had safety issue in the past.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před 4 měsíci

      Hey, sorry for the delay, the cold world stand seems to be safe so far. I have heard of no failures on that stand in 2023. Good luck!

  • @ukjw2
    @ukjw2 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Now we know why they are sold out of these

  • @djt6753
    @djt6753 Před rokem +1

    Appreciate your detailed review and your quite helpful in your comments. Since I am new to saddle hunting and am currently in market for a good platform. Not factoring in cost or weight what would you recommend as the top rated platform that you have tested/reviewed? Keep up the good work!

  • @DominickAlan
    @DominickAlan Před rokem +1

    The onyx looks like its the strongest of all three platforms you showed. Do a review on the trophy line onyx ?

  • @benclark5373
    @benclark5373 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the video. I wonder why there was weld there in the first place

  • @reddawng43x91
    @reddawng43x91 Před rokem +2

    The platform folding concerns me more than the cracked welds

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +1

      Me too. The post is too far forward in the platform creating a fulcrum effect.

  • @Sparky513
    @Sparky513 Před rokem +1

    I sanded my xop x2's, cause they was tearing up everything VERY FAST. Great for climbing bad for everything else. They were tearing up my bag, ropes, aider, straps legit everything it touches. They should have just done the top parts where you stand, but a very light sanding knocks off the rough parts and keeps the paint on, I an going to paint mine anyway, going to keep some of the tan and add green and brown, try to camo them up a bit.
    Ps I used 80 grit real light sanding followed with a sanding block (fine or medium), took me about 45 min to do all 4 if that, did 1 everytime I went out to smoke a cig and thats how ling it take to do one around 9 min kinda moving fast about 15 taking your time

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, I dont know why they added the grit to evertthing. It was tearing up the seat on the retrograde stand.

    • @Sparky513
      @Sparky513 Před rokem

      @MichiganGreatOutdoors yea I was worried about my eberlestock X2 backpack that I just got, it's the green suede feeling versions (didn't know that when I ordered lol) but didn't want them to mess my bag up or aiders.
      Thi king of painting them camo to try and blend more into a tree, have you ever done this if so would you recommend a certain type of paint to use

  • @TheSouthernObsession
    @TheSouthernObsession Před rokem +1

    Was this review before XOPs video on how to set this platform on a tree? Cant toe hook the platform with their design have to pretty much do the opposite.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +1

      Whats funny is the instructions that came in the box explicitly said to toe hook it, which I never did anyway because u cant toe hook it because the geometry is off for toe hooking.

    • @TheSouthernObsession
      @TheSouthernObsession Před rokem

      @MichiganGreatOutdoors gotcha I bought one recently and they sent me an email for the video of them attaching one to the tree. It made sense for their design to pull it up the tree to cam it. Just noticed in the video you kind of pushed it down before you jumped on it lol.

  • @goinwithgus7986
    @goinwithgus7986 Před rokem +1

    I’m right around the 300 mark and had one of the XOP single sticks break on me. Thankfully I was low to the ground. I like the idea of their products but find it hard to believe the weight rating of 350.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      yes, something seems off to me. They have a lot of failures

    • @Big_Bow_Nerd
      @Big_Bow_Nerd Před rokem

      I also had the old xop sticks break on me. Scared the hell out of me. But the newer xop sticks are very nice and tough. I was going to pick up this platform but now I think I’ll just stick w my old xop platform. It’s a bit of a tank but it’s solid and I’m happy with it

  • @seang2501
    @seang2501 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I just ordered one today and now I’m thinking I might be just cancel the order

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před 9 měsíci

      SO I have publicly heard that at least 2 other platforms have cracked in the same spot, I saw these on the online forums, XOP wants to publicly discredit my video and they claim I stomped and jumped on the platform to make them look bad which is 100% false. Even to this day their main pro staff guy tries to discredit my video and claim I jumped on the platform. If you are a lighter guy you might be ok, but I saw the bugets sportsman also un-cam the stand and he is like 170lbs so I think its a flawed design and there are better options available, but at the end of the day its your money and you should spend it how you like. XOP will surely warranty any damage for life. Good luck!!

  • @jameshall421
    @jameshall421 Před rokem +1

    Appreciate you brother!! Saved me some more coin. Keep it up

  • @Jase-E
    @Jase-E Před rokem +1

    Well that's junk. Thanks for the honest review. The skeletonized the platform WAY too much.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      I tend to agree. Super disappointed in the design. They took to much material out....

  • @cardinalcrazy09
    @cardinalcrazy09 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Are yiu sure that is waterjet? It looks to me like it might be plasma cut. In my experience waterjet usually looks better wuality than that

  • @bulletsandbroadheads
    @bulletsandbroadheads Před rokem +1

    Will pass on this. I see changes or possible recall

  • @RedBeardedPredators
    @RedBeardedPredators Před rokem +1

    Love the truth man! Thanks for sharing!

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      I always keep it real on here and give a true honest opinion. Sometimes people can't handle that... Unfortunately

    • @RedBeardedPredators
      @RedBeardedPredators Před rokem

      Yeah, I hear you there, I’ve got the xop edge platform, the edge weighs more then the invader, but is feels very sturdy and the design is much better. I’d rather carry the extra couple pounds and be safer.
      I agree with you, there’s really nothing to hold that platform together on the end part.
      I’d like to get the .5 LWCG hybrid set up at somepoint. Hopefully soon…

  • @chattahoocheeoutdoorsman4865

    I was looking at getting a retrograde. After seeing this, I'll pass and stay with my Helo.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      I made a video on the stand.czcams.com/video/_suLEgkt_c8/video.html
      Id recommend the stand over this platform in a heart beat. Good luck.

  • @reddawng43x91
    @reddawng43x91 Před rokem +1

    Xop will 100percent send u another platform no questions for life tho

  • @KrisCavacco
    @KrisCavacco Před rokem +1

    Nothing to do with the button being to low, has to do with where the pivot point of the platform is, if you put pressure on platform behind the pivot point that will happen every time pivot point on other platforms is closer to the tree so it’s harder to put pressure behind the post, just my opinion.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      I agree with you now after I made this video and talking to other O.G. type saddle hunters, they all said the exact same thing.

  • @paulstark5475
    @paulstark5475 Před rokem +1

    What would your go to lightweight platform be? I’m 185-190 size 11 for reference

  • @markadevereaux
    @markadevereaux Před rokem +2

    The real deal. You earn credibility by telling the truth.

  • @SurvivalSavvvy
    @SurvivalSavvvy Před rokem +1

    Been looking for a light weight chair to shoot bow from the from the ground. I am leaning toward the Helinox Café Chair at 3lbs and sits higher. Pricey but its the closest I have come to backpacking. Everything else is 10lbs. Suggestions?

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      Is this for ground blind hunting? That Helinox looks really nice. Im sorry Im dont have a ton of experience ground hunting.

    • @SurvivalSavvvy
      @SurvivalSavvvy Před rokem

      @@MichiganGreatOutdoors Yeah to be able to setup fast and move. Every chair I look at is either to low or weighs as much as a truck. Even 3 lbs is heavy I have a few of there chairs but they all sit to low to use the bow. This Cafe is new and it sits higher. I take the zero hiking all the time and its 1lb. So I am taking a hit of 2lbs. My pack weight is 35lbs without food and water. So If I take this chair something has to go.

    • @SurvivalSavvvy
      @SurvivalSavvvy Před rokem

      @@MichiganGreatOutdoors I just bought $180.00 YIKES!.... Comes in on tuesday I will try shooting my mathews from it and see how it works if not it will go back. I bought the brown one

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      Let me know how u like it! I wanna get something like that soon. I just bought a Tidewe see through pop up blind.

    • @kyledobson1607
      @kyledobson1607 Před rokem

      Take a look at the Waldrop Pac Seat. Has tons of adjustments. I mainly treestand hunt but use it for blinds, during gun season, and when I need to sneak in somewhere when I don’t have a lot of time.

  • @xarrow81
    @xarrow81 Před rokem +1

    Good review and solid facts! But lets be real, you know your big ass shouldn't be using them little platforms 😅
    Playing

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      I use others with no problems..... This one is just too thin on material I believe.

  • @evil04svtcobra
    @evil04svtcobra Před rokem +1

    Jason, I’m 6 foot 4 inches tall. 290 pounds and size 15 boot. What is the best platform for a big guy?

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +1

      That Trophyline Mission, Or Onyx would be a great setup for you. They're a little heavier than most but built like a tank! I highly recommend them both.

    • @joshlasure3384
      @joshlasure3384 Před rokem +2

      What about EDP?

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem +1

      oh man, the EDP is great, its smaller though so with your size boot it might be tuff.
      czcams.com/video/8bW468djjyw/video.html
      I had one for a while and I actually regret selling it. Trophline has a CZcams channel with some videos on it. You might wanna check them out!!

    • @micahroberson1234
      @micahroberson1234 Před rokem

      @@MichiganGreatOutdoors have you ever tried the ridge runner 2.0? Im the same size as evil, and Im loooking for a platform and sticks. Im pretty sure I want the xop x2's

  • @critter852004
    @critter852004 Před rokem +1

    Damn, that’s a shame. But for the same price you can get a Trophyline EDP or Mission which are made in the USA as you know. I always push guys towards TL platforms due to the price and how solidly they’re made. I run the mission all season long due for comfort reasons.

    • @MichiganGreatOutdoors
      @MichiganGreatOutdoors  Před rokem

      Trophyline platforms are the strongest on the market for sure!! Ive never heard of one failing ever!!

  • @Saddlehntr
    @Saddlehntr Před rokem +1

    😮

  • @pop4725
    @pop4725 Před rokem +1

    I’m not going near that thing , Tethrd Predator all the way

  • @Rooster_king
    @Rooster_king Před rokem +1

    3:54 Is that broke or notched? Looks strange.

  • @samuelbarlowe2460
    @samuelbarlowe2460 Před rokem +1

    Wow. Another one bites the dust. Looks cheap

  • @wecatchfish9531
    @wecatchfish9531 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Chinese junk. Plenty of great platforms made in the US.

  • @michigangrownoutdoors7254

    People got mad at me for saying it but this is what happens when you have a bunch of 1/2 dedicated guys sitting in a boy me making mobile gear for hunters who hunt in conditions not an office. Not surprised kne but I knew it was just time. Sucks it happened to you tho man. Hope XOP listens and takes care this and it’s customers.