@Bassai True, but Shotokan kata, I think, are developed for a more growth focus rather than Bunkai focus - how to make turns with the least amount of movement, how make blocks optimally solid, how to lunge and attack without telegraphing, and most of all, how to throw the heaviest and most powerful karate blows. This, I think, is still quite invaluable.
It is full off principles but maybe not easy to comprehend without knowledge from other sources. And it works. And he is saying a lot but not in perfect english. Certainly he is deep source of knowledge. Every other statement is far from reality...
@eisbombenhagel continued #3: I found out that bunkai in kata are really just ideas or suggestions. Take the idea / suggestion, break it down, modify it, see how it fits to you. Kanazawa above is just showing a simple interpretation or set of ideas to explain the kata. Not necessarily "THE WAY YOU MUST DEFEND YOURSELF IN THIS SITUATION" type of lesson, because there are so many interpretations of the kata which vary between teachers.
Hi TakuyaDan. I am only a 4th dan and I do know how good he was at Kumite and yes.......I also know how he fought in the nationals with a broken arm. He actually wasn't one of the first generation of Shotokan but, rather one of the first of the younger genertaion to be sent out into the world by the older generation. However, it doesn't alter the fact that most Shotokan bunkai taught is ineffective rubbish that will only ever work in the dojo with compliant partners.
@FiasaPower I found out that bunkai in kata are really just ideas or suggestions. Take the idea / suggestion, break it down, modify it, see how it fits to you. Kanazawa above is just showing a simple interpretation or set of ideas to explain the kata. Not necessarily "THE WAY YOU MUST DEFEND YOURSELF IN THIS SITUATION" type of lesson, because there are so many interpretations of the kata which vary between teachers.
@FiasaPower The reason why I say bunkai in kata is fixed is because the sequence of techniques is limited to what the kata dictates. But you can take the techniques, modify and use them separately in practice in slow jiyu-kumite or "controlled" practical situations. For example, instead of using the above Age Uke+Jodan Shuto-Uchi + Jodan Mae-geri, break it down to just Age Uke+Jodan Shuto Uchi and practice that in every possible jiyu-kumite / street sparring drill you can. Mae geri for follow up
@eisbombenhagel The reason why I say bunkai in kata is fixed is because the sequence of techniques is limited to what the kata dictates. But you can take the techniques, modify and use them separately in practice in slow jiyu-kumite or "controlled" practical situations.
For those of you who practice karate and know this kata....what came first? The kihon or the kata, From what I understand the kihon. The breakdown is what you make of it. I have had this conversation many times. The question you have to ask is, what application can I get from this. The breakdown can be modified just like any other self defense application. The challenge most of us are unwilling to undertake is finding the answer for ourselves.
@Bassai Very good comment. Bunkai is not exact. This is just one example of the bunkai, but ANY kata technique can turn into something else, and in time, through repetition, that is understood. Kata is simply an exercise/drill that teaches you to move, and it also can train you to focus on multiple opponents. People on here seem to totally misunderstand kata (its clearly not for everyone). I had to scroll down very far for some intelligent comments on this page. Thanks for your thoughts.
@eisbombenhagel continued #2: For example, instead of using the above Age Uke+Jodan Shuto-Uchi + Jodan Mae-geri, break it down to just Age Uke+Jodan Shuto Uchi and practice that in every possible jiyu-kumite / street sparring drill you can. Mae geri for follow up
You are right. However, you take a piece of bunkai and adjust it to the situation. Example, you are not going to use the formal / basic way of doing an outside block in a real fight, right? You would use a small, quick version of it while you have your guard up in fighting stance. The same goes with this bunkai, or any bunkai from kata. You take the lesson, practice it in fighting stance and adjust it for a faster, real situation. Ossu!
Kata is a way of training your mind and body to react instinctively in self defense situations. The exaggeration of stances and technique is to develop strength and refinement. The problem I see is that no one practices bunkai applications realistically, if at all. There's some neat stuff in there if you analyze it properly.
@FiasaPower Hi, After regular training in bunkai in a non-JKA Shotokan dojo, then training in a JKA dojo with minimal bunkai (after relocating), then studying an Okinawan version (Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu) to find original bunkai of Shotokan kata, I found that neither were really that practical at all. So, take the bunkai as it is (Kanazawa's included) with a grain of salt, find the base of the actual technique (which would actually be practical) and just use that. Kata bunkai is always fixed.
@eisbombenhagel AGAIN, MY ORIGINAL POST: Here's my original post: And really, no matter how practical your interpretation is, what are the chances of you using them in the actual sequence as in the kata? Most probably the Shotokan response (Kanazawa included) in a real situation would be block + Gyaku Tsuki. The immediate response is always the easiest to remember. AGAIN I POINT OUT THAT IT IS THE SHOTOKAN RESPONSE, NOT EVERYBODY'S! REAL FIGHTING WILL NOT HAPPEN IN SUCH A SEQUENCE - GET IT?
@FiasaPower And really, no matter how practical your interpretation is, what are the chances of you using them in the actual sequence as in the kata? Most probably the Shotokan response (Kanazawa included) in a real situation would be block + Gyaku Tsuki. The immediate response is always the easiest to remember.
@eisbombenhagel So, after seeing that video(Matsubayashi ryu - Yara no Kusanku), do you think these Okinawan masters would actually apply the exact same techniques in the same order when confronted on the street. Most probably not. I can bet you they'd use the same quick-response schema they had practiced in their kumite: Block or Evade + Strike (elbow, kick, head butt, whatever). If you still don't get that, then YOU'VE REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN IN A REAL SELF-DEFENSE SITUATION.
what rank are you? its also about real life situations.......besides, did you ever see kumites of this man? he is 10 dan - one of the first shotokan karatekas
@Bassai Nagamine was not Motobu. Period. The point was directed to "traditional training" and no or few "sparring". And I can't remember reading about Nagamine going to a red light district and start up fights only to see if his "techniques" worked. When I remember correctly he was a police officer. Again: You are answering questions that no one asked... Not a a sign of understanding either...
@eisbombenhagel You want to talk about Choki Motobu? I also studied Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu, founded by a student of Motobu, Shoshin Nagamine. I can even point to you a video of a Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu version of Kusanku, which shows about the same amount of questionable applications as Kanazawa's above. Just type: Matsubayashi ryu - Yara no Kusanku - complete kata with applications.
@Bassai It's fine because it's your problem. Not mine! It's your shallow understanding. Not mine! But please don't tell me (and probably others here) about "real" situations as it is clear that you don't know what you're talking about. "Real" situations are nasty and don't have anything in common with that kind of ballet - and no, it doesn't matter how fast you can dance when it's needed to fight! And fighting is a lot more than "block + gyaku zuki"!
@Bassai No one puts muscle memory in question. That's not the point! Your "block + punch" comment is actually an answer to a question that seldomly someone asks you in a self-defense situation. Especially not out of that distance. Your reaction (again by arguing something that was not in question) simply shows me that I was right.
But..you still didn't answer my question : what do you think of the bunki ???? The whole premise for all my posts are that...the bunkai shown is ineffective and unrealisitc... You have never discussed that with me.....shame because, I feel we could have a good exchange on that subject. You must be a politician...you are so good at evading the important question.. Best wishes with your training
@eisbombenhagel What do you mean "questions no one asked"? Wasn't your response to KavikaShon (below): "Yeah, "traditional" training my ass! Whose "tradition" and what "tradition"? The tradition of doing kata without any understanding of what is being done and letting it wither to some kind of poor jazz dance demonstration? ...Motobu's "tradition" was to start fights in the red light district just to see if what he learned worked. He also did a lot of "sparring". Same with Mabuni."
Who I have trained under for the last 20 years or, my training history is largely unimportant in this discussion. The question you could answer is...well...do you think the bunkai is realistic...and would actually work in real life. Or...being serious...I would happily come to your dojo and show you what bunkai I teach and to show that I am really NOT an armchair warrior...lol And there really is no need to get rude...very un-budo...
@eisbombenhagel So now you call Nagmine Shoshin Sensei a liar? Have you read any of his books? Have you read his "The Essence of Okinawan Karate-Do"? He clearly mentions that he learned from Motobu, and that he adapted chambering his fists to the upper position from Motobu. Nagamine also mentions Motobu's influence on him in his "Tales of Okinawa's Great Masters". Want to talk about cops? Mabuni was a cop too. Did he go to the red light district to start fights? Of Course Not!!
@SKIFTIGER - Er I don't have it in for anyone. Where did I say that? Actually I like Kanazawa Sensei a great deal as a human being, a karateka and a karate sensei. Happy now? That however does not make this bunkai any good. As you say "In a real situation,nothing will go to plan as practiced in the dojo". Clearly this example is not about a 'real situation' which why I stated he should have rehearsed them. Make sense?
@Bassai I did read your postings. You *suppose* that there are no other applications because you *think* the bunkai is fixed and you are seriously telling us that the "answer" (metaphorically spoken) to an attack in a "real situation" (the "question") would be "block + gyaku zuki" - which is totally ridiculous. I pointed you to other self-defense systems which do not work in that manner (for good reasons) and pointed you to the movements in the kata. If that's all you know to do. Fine!
Armchair opinion? Did you not hear that the man said he was a 4th dan with 20+ years of training? That doesn't sound very armchair to me. And for the record, I also think that this bunkai is pretty dubious. Do I need to be a 10th dan to hold that opinion? Of course not - I just need to apply a little common sense. How of often do people launch an attack with a kick? 1% of the time? A kick not to the groin - .001%? So that's half this demonstration out the window right away!
@Bassai No, I don't call Nagamine a liar. I just noticed that you have problems understanding what others write. Others would probably call you stupid for that and your behaviour. Also: Mabuni was not Motobu either. You're missing the point again. I simply was arguing that it is ridiculous calling any training today "traditional". 100% of the stuff today is a result of breaking traditions.
@eisbombenhagel Another thing, you did not understand my whole argument at all, in its original points. You just blindly blurted out "This comment simply shows one thing: You've never been in a "real" situation! Actually 'nuff said.." without reading what I had posted carefully. Read it again and it you'd find out what I had originally DOES NOT contradict your opinion; obviously you don't analyze what you read. As I said, you act like a child.
@KavikaShon Yeah, "traditional" training my ass! Whose "tradition" and what "tradition"? The tradition of doing kata without any understanding of what is being done and letting it wither to some kind of poor jazz dance demonstration? The tradition of doing stupid kabuki bunkai performances? What "tradition" are you talking about? Btw.: Motobu's "tradition" was to start fights in the red light district just to see if what he learned worked. He also did a lot of "sparring". Same with Mabuni.
If you notcie I only post negative comments when I see awful bunkai. I am in awe of the ability of athletic Kareteka but, the standard of realistic bunkai being taught (assuming the material posted on you tube is a resonable sample of what is taught globally) is frankly....dreadful and unrealistic. I was once taught by a Japanese master to block a punch by catching it with my forearms (as in Nijishio). Great when its a "pretend" oizuki not so good in real life. Been training for 20+years
I think we are mis-communicating here... I was offering to show you..at your dojo (assuming you actually train because, you haven't mentioned your training experience) what bunkai I teach..You could then decide what you think. I notice that you haven't said what you actually think of the bunkai shown where I have made my comments. What do you actually think of the bunkai? Please note..I have not criticised anyone personally..just the bunkai being taught. Oh..and sarcasam..so not attractive
Once again....we mis-communicate. You seem only interested in my training history and now my teachers... You STILL have not said what you think of the bunkai... Why would my comments be of concern to my teacher.....they are my opinions not theirs. The offer to show you the bunkai I teach was simply to offer you an opportunity for a comparison whch could lead to convenial conversation between us. I had no intention to flatter myself and apologise if it came across that way,
These are terrible applications. At least they should have rehearsed the moves to make them look 'polished'. Instead it all looks off the cuff rubbish.Where's defence against holds, chokes and all kinds of normal assaults? Which thug is going to step back into gedan barai before conveniently stepping forward with oitsuki? NO ONE!
@Bassai If it was that easy, why the heck do Yawara, Ju-Jutsu, Tai-Jutsu or european combat wrestling (and maybe most of the self-defense systems in the world) work differently to those "applications" while the movements are there in the kata? Don't be ridiculous! Cheap excuses for your poor understanding. Nothing more.
His teacher is absolutely irrelevant. Some of the biggest nonsense out there is taught by the best names in martial arts. This whole cult of cliquey sensei worship sickens me. Surely wisdom and truth are independent qualities? Ironically, you dismiss becs' 4th dan status as being irrelevant, whilst at the same time demanding to know his training lineage. You can't have it both ways. And how ambiguous is it to say "I am a 4th dan and have trained for 20 years". That seems quite unambiguous 2me
@Bassai True, but Shotokan kata, I think, are developed for a more growth focus rather than Bunkai focus - how to make turns with the least amount of movement, how make blocks optimally solid, how to lunge and attack without telegraphing, and most of all, how to throw the heaviest and most powerful karate blows. This, I think, is still quite invaluable.
I personally find your comments logically and your restraint admirable.
It is full off principles but maybe not easy to comprehend without knowledge from other sources. And it works. And he is saying a lot but not in perfect english. Certainly he is deep source of knowledge. Every other statement is far from reality...
@eisbombenhagel continued #3: I found out that bunkai in kata are really just ideas or suggestions. Take the idea / suggestion, break it down, modify it, see how it fits to you. Kanazawa above is just showing a simple interpretation or set of ideas to explain the kata. Not necessarily "THE WAY YOU MUST DEFEND YOURSELF IN THIS SITUATION" type of lesson, because there are so many interpretations of the kata which vary between teachers.
Hi TakuyaDan.
I am only a 4th dan and I do know how good he was at Kumite and yes.......I also know how he fought in the nationals with a broken arm. He actually wasn't one of the first generation of Shotokan but, rather one of the first of the younger genertaion to be sent out into the world by the older generation.
However, it doesn't alter the fact that most Shotokan bunkai taught is ineffective rubbish that will only ever work in the dojo with compliant partners.
@FiasaPower I found out that bunkai in kata are really just ideas or suggestions. Take the idea / suggestion, break it down, modify it, see how it fits to you. Kanazawa above is just showing a simple interpretation or set of ideas to explain the kata. Not necessarily "THE WAY YOU MUST DEFEND YOURSELF IN THIS SITUATION" type of lesson, because there are so many interpretations of the kata which vary between teachers.
@FiasaPower The reason why I say bunkai in kata is fixed is because the sequence of techniques is limited to what the kata dictates. But you can take the techniques, modify and use them separately in practice in slow jiyu-kumite or "controlled" practical situations. For example, instead of using the above Age Uke+Jodan Shuto-Uchi + Jodan Mae-geri, break it down to just Age Uke+Jodan Shuto Uchi and practice that in every possible jiyu-kumite / street sparring drill you can. Mae geri for follow up
@eisbombenhagel The reason why I say bunkai in kata is fixed is because the sequence of techniques is limited to what the kata dictates. But you can take the techniques, modify and use them separately in practice in slow jiyu-kumite or "controlled" practical situations.
For those of you who practice karate and know this kata....what came first? The kihon or the kata, From what I understand the kihon. The breakdown is what you make of it. I have had this conversation many times. The question you have to ask is, what application can I get from this. The breakdown can be modified just like any other self defense application. The challenge most of us are unwilling to undertake is finding the answer for ourselves.
@Bassai Very good comment. Bunkai is not exact. This is just one example of the bunkai, but ANY kata technique can turn into something else, and in time, through repetition, that is understood. Kata is simply an exercise/drill that teaches you to move, and it also can train you to focus on multiple opponents. People on here seem to totally misunderstand kata (its clearly not for everyone). I had to scroll down very far for some intelligent comments on this page. Thanks for your thoughts.
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@eisbombenhagel continued #2: For example, instead of using the above Age Uke+Jodan Shuto-Uchi + Jodan Mae-geri, break it down to just Age Uke+Jodan Shuto Uchi and practice that in every possible jiyu-kumite / street sparring drill you can. Mae geri for follow up
You are right. However, you take a piece of bunkai and adjust it to the situation. Example, you are not going to use the formal / basic way of doing an outside block in a real fight, right? You would use a small, quick version of it while you have your guard up in fighting stance. The same goes with this bunkai, or any bunkai from kata. You take the lesson, practice it in fighting stance and adjust it for a faster, real situation. Ossu!
Kata is a way of training your mind and body to react instinctively in self defense situations. The exaggeration of stances and technique is to develop strength and refinement. The problem I see is that no one practices bunkai applications realistically, if at all. There's some neat stuff in there if you analyze it properly.
@FiasaPower Hahaha!! Cool. Peace...
@FiasaPower Hi, After regular training in bunkai in a non-JKA Shotokan dojo, then training in a JKA dojo with minimal bunkai (after relocating), then studying an Okinawan version (Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu) to find original bunkai of Shotokan kata, I found that neither were really that practical at all. So, take the bunkai as it is (Kanazawa's included) with a grain of salt, find the base of the actual technique (which would actually be practical) and just use that. Kata bunkai is always fixed.
This is very reality.
Oss.
It is. With those attackers. But no more.
@eisbombenhagel Is that all you can say just so you can get in your "last word"?
@Bassai One quote from what you wrote: "Kata bunkai is always fixed."
You can also read the rest of the stuff you wrote.
End of discussion.
@eisbombenhagel AGAIN, MY ORIGINAL POST: Here's my original post: And really, no matter how practical your interpretation is, what are the chances of you using them in the actual sequence as in the kata? Most probably the Shotokan response (Kanazawa included) in a real situation would be block + Gyaku Tsuki. The immediate response is always the easiest to remember. AGAIN I POINT OUT THAT IT IS THE SHOTOKAN RESPONSE, NOT EVERYBODY'S! REAL FIGHTING WILL NOT HAPPEN IN SUCH A SEQUENCE - GET IT?
@FiasaPower And really, no matter how practical your interpretation is, what are the chances of you using them in the actual sequence as in the kata? Most probably the Shotokan response (Kanazawa included) in a real situation would be block + Gyaku Tsuki. The immediate response is always the easiest to remember.
@eisbombenhagel So, after seeing that video(Matsubayashi ryu - Yara no Kusanku), do you think these Okinawan masters would actually apply the exact same techniques in the same order when confronted on the street. Most probably not. I can bet you they'd use the same quick-response schema they had practiced in their kumite: Block or Evade + Strike (elbow, kick, head butt, whatever). If you still don't get that, then YOU'VE REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN IN A REAL SELF-DEFENSE SITUATION.
@njtr THNKS
what rank are you? its also about real life situations.......besides, did you ever see kumites of this man? he is 10 dan - one of the first shotokan karatekas
@Bassai Nagamine was not Motobu. Period. The point was directed to "traditional training" and no or few "sparring". And I can't remember reading about Nagamine going to a red light district and start up fights only to see if his "techniques" worked. When I remember correctly he was a police officer. Again: You are answering questions that no one asked... Not a a sign of understanding either...
@Bassai Shall I draw a picture for you so you can understand "end of discussion"?
@eisbombenhagel You want to talk about Choki Motobu? I also studied Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu, founded by a student of Motobu, Shoshin Nagamine. I can even point to you a video of a Matsubayashi Shorin-Ryu version of Kusanku, which shows about the same amount of questionable applications as Kanazawa's above. Just type: Matsubayashi ryu - Yara no Kusanku - complete kata with applications.
@Bassai It's fine because it's your problem. Not mine! It's your shallow understanding. Not mine!
But please don't tell me (and probably others here) about "real" situations as it is clear that you don't know what you're talking about. "Real" situations are nasty and don't have anything in common with that kind of ballet - and no, it doesn't matter how fast you can dance when it's needed to fight! And fighting is a lot more than "block + gyaku zuki"!
@Bassai No one puts muscle memory in question. That's not the point! Your "block + punch" comment is actually an answer to a question that seldomly someone asks you in a self-defense situation. Especially not out of that distance. Your reaction (again by arguing something that was not in question) simply shows me that I was right.
But..you still didn't answer my question :
what do you think of the bunki ????
The whole premise for all my posts are that...the bunkai shown is ineffective and unrealisitc...
You have never discussed that with me.....shame because, I feel we could have a good exchange on that subject.
You must be a politician...you are so good at evading the important question..
Best wishes with your training
@eisbombenhagel What do you mean "questions no one asked"? Wasn't your response to KavikaShon (below): "Yeah, "traditional" training my ass! Whose "tradition" and what "tradition"? The tradition of doing kata without any understanding of what is being done and letting it wither to some kind of poor jazz dance demonstration? ...Motobu's "tradition" was to start fights in the red light district just to see if what he learned worked. He also did a lot of "sparring". Same with Mabuni."
Who I have trained under for the last 20 years or, my training history is largely unimportant in this discussion.
The question you could answer is...well...do you think the bunkai is realistic...and would actually work in real life.
Or...being serious...I would happily come to your dojo and show you what bunkai I teach and to show that I am really NOT an armchair warrior...lol
And there really is no need to get rude...very un-budo...
atakiiii atakkiii ataiki whahahahah lol xD
It's a bunch of Bunkai?
Such a shame the bunkai is just based on "dojo etiquette" partner work and not real life situations.
@eisbombenhagel So now you call Nagmine Shoshin Sensei a liar? Have you read any of his books? Have you read his "The Essence of Okinawan Karate-Do"? He clearly mentions that he learned from Motobu, and that he adapted chambering his fists to the upper position from Motobu. Nagamine also mentions Motobu's influence on him in his "Tales of Okinawa's Great Masters". Want to talk about cops? Mabuni was a cop too. Did he go to the red light district to start fights? Of Course Not!!
@SKIFTIGER - Er I don't have it in for anyone. Where did I say that? Actually I like Kanazawa Sensei a great deal as a human being, a karateka and a karate sensei. Happy now? That however does not make this bunkai any good. As you say "In a real situation,nothing will go to plan as practiced in the dojo". Clearly this example is not about a 'real situation' which why I stated he should have rehearsed them. Make sense?
@Bassai I did read your postings. You *suppose* that there are no other applications because you *think* the bunkai is fixed and you are seriously telling us that the "answer" (metaphorically spoken) to an attack in a "real situation" (the "question") would be "block + gyaku zuki" - which is totally ridiculous. I pointed you to other self-defense systems which do not work in that manner (for good reasons) and pointed you to the movements in the kata. If that's all you know to do. Fine!
@Bassai *lol* "Intelligent manner". Sure. YMMD!
@Bassai This comment simply shows one thing: You've never been in a "real" situation! Actually 'nuff said...
Hi Bassai ! I can understand your points , and agree with some . But I dislike this kind of bunkai , and always will .
Peace .
@cCcEmKocCcsogut LMFAO
Armchair opinion? Did you not hear that the man said he was a 4th dan with 20+ years of training? That doesn't sound very armchair to me. And for the record, I also think that this bunkai is pretty dubious. Do I need to be a 10th dan to hold that opinion? Of course not - I just need to apply a little common sense. How of often do people launch an attack with a kick? 1% of the time? A kick not to the groin - .001%? So that's half this demonstration out the window right away!
@Bassai No, I don't call Nagamine a liar. I just noticed that you have problems understanding what others write. Others would probably call you stupid for that and your behaviour.
Also: Mabuni was not Motobu either. You're missing the point again. I simply was arguing that it is ridiculous calling any training today "traditional". 100% of the stuff today is a result of breaking traditions.
ｉｔｈｉｎｋ ｈｅ ｎｅｅｄｓ ｔｏ ｗｏｒｋ ｏｎ ｈｉｓ ｅｎｇｌｉｓｈ， ｉ ｃａｎｔ ｕｎｄｅｒｓｔａｎｄ ｈｉｍ ｔｈａｔ ｗｅｌｌ
I disagree it's very realistic what would you about karate?
@eisbombenhagel Another thing, you did not understand my whole argument at all, in its original points. You just blindly blurted out "This comment simply shows one thing: You've never been in a "real" situation! Actually 'nuff said.." without reading what I had posted carefully. Read it again and it you'd find out what I had originally DOES NOT contradict your opinion; obviously you don't analyze what you read. As I said, you act like a child.
@KavikaShon Yeah, "traditional" training my ass! Whose "tradition" and what "tradition"? The tradition of doing kata without any understanding of what is being done and letting it wither to some kind of poor jazz dance demonstration? The tradition of doing stupid kabuki bunkai performances? What "tradition" are you talking about? Btw.: Motobu's "tradition" was to start fights in the red light district just to see if what he learned worked. He also did a lot of "sparring". Same with Mabuni.
If you notcie I only post negative comments when I see awful bunkai.
I am in awe of the ability of athletic Kareteka but, the standard of realistic bunkai being taught (assuming the material posted on you tube is a resonable sample of what is taught globally) is frankly....dreadful and unrealistic.
I was once taught by a Japanese master to block a punch by catching it with my forearms (as in Nijishio). Great when its a "pretend" oizuki not so good in real life.
Been training for 20+years
I think we are mis-communicating here...
I was offering to show you..at your dojo (assuming you actually train because, you haven't mentioned your training experience) what bunkai I teach..You could then decide what you think.
I notice that you haven't said what you actually think of the bunkai shown where I have made my comments.
What do you actually think of the bunkai?
Please note..I have not criticised anyone personally..just the bunkai being taught.
Oh..and sarcasam..so not attractive
Once again....we mis-communicate.
You seem only interested in my training history and now my teachers...
You STILL have not said what you think of the bunkai...
Why would my comments be of concern to my teacher.....they are my opinions not theirs.
The offer to show you the bunkai I teach was simply to offer you an opportunity for a comparison whch could lead to convenial conversation between us.
I had no intention to flatter myself and apologise if it came across that way,
These are terrible applications. At least they should have rehearsed the moves to make them look 'polished'. Instead it all looks off the cuff rubbish.Where's defence against holds, chokes and all kinds of normal assaults? Which thug is going to step back into gedan barai before conveniently stepping forward with oitsuki? NO ONE!
@Bassai If it was that easy, why the heck do Yawara, Ju-Jutsu, Tai-Jutsu or european combat wrestling (and maybe most of the self-defense systems in the world) work differently to those "applications" while the movements are there in the kata? Don't be ridiculous! Cheap excuses for your poor understanding. Nothing more.
these dvd series are really not good, poor quality, very poor and the bunkai are very basic, so much basic, that its funny....
I really respect Kanazawa , but I couldn't agree with this nonsense .
His teacher is absolutely irrelevant. Some of the biggest nonsense out there is taught by the best names in martial arts. This whole cult of cliquey sensei worship sickens me. Surely wisdom and truth are independent qualities?
Ironically, you dismiss becs' 4th dan status as being irrelevant, whilst at the same time demanding to know his training lineage. You can't have it both ways. And how ambiguous is it to say "I am a 4th dan and have trained for 20 years". That seems quite unambiguous 2me
Is that Paul Walker in the background??? Ewww
Go fix your basics before you demo with Kancho Paul!