VSB Wiki Updated Tiering System | Powerscaling

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  • čas přidán 20. 02. 2024
  • Credits:
    On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System - Ultima_Reality
    Link - vsbattles.com/threads/on-the-...
    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0
    Link - vsbattles.com/threads/tiering...
    Music:
    feat. AoT「立body機motion × Ashes on The Fire」/「Ashes on The Fire × ətˈæk 0N tάɪtn」
    0:00 - 2:00 [First Part]
    By Hiroyuki Sawano
    Link - • feat. AoT「立body機motion...
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    Hastags:
    #youtube #fiction #powerscaling #trending #antiprinciple #azathoth #creature #cthulhumythos #edit #infinity
    ~Project FM
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Komentáře • 359

  • @projectfm684
    @projectfm684  Před 4 měsíci +6

    Original Background Video Link : m.czcams.com/video/UWZO55K_cW8/video.html

    • @omniverse681
      @omniverse681 Před 23 dny

      featherine Augustus aurora high 1-A, the creator tier 0

  • @ambassadorofbadtaste
    @ambassadorofbadtaste Před 4 měsíci +3

    I never thought I will get a headache after watching this video once

  • @abdulkenyseid8108
    @abdulkenyseid8108 Před 4 měsíci +9

    According new tiering system concept manipulation 1, Transduality 2,3, NEP2, would automatically scale you 1-A

  • @Rachjumper
    @Rachjumper Před 4 měsíci +11

    So from what I've read on the original post it's to basically help with characters who are of the same tier from low 2-C-0 fight against eachother since it was apparently incosistent on who would win in those tiers. And tier 0 characters literally have to be like God I.E omnipotent, could doubt their existence, their form must not be known at all, they must be all powerful and not change, etc. This just from what I read since I don't have the attention span or time to read the rest.

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci +2

      They can appear to change to lower beings, but they can't physically or literally change.

    • @livingcoffee_edits
      @livingcoffee_edits Před 2 měsíci

      It's just a bit stupid

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Rhetorical_Ife then are they not omnipotent?

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Rhetorical_Ife for if they cannot change themselves, that is limit, therefore not all powerful 😎

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 2 měsíci

      @@blizzard1198 they can do it, it'd just make an inconsistency.

  • @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ
    @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ Před 4 měsíci +4

    If the level system page actually gets rewritten because of this, I'll hit the wall.

  • @TheShadow5021
    @TheShadow5021 Před 3 měsíci +2

    well after rewatching this video, Rest in Peace Permanently to X layers into Boundless

  • @Rachjumper
    @Rachjumper Před 4 měsíci +4

    It's time to rely on my own way of scaling now.

  • @SethTheMinorityHunter
    @SethTheMinorityHunter Před 2 měsíci

    This goes hard,ngl

  • @Hinoshu_Suzuki
    @Hinoshu_Suzuki Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nice video

  • @zainulabideen5490
    @zainulabideen5490 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Does it even matter now?
    Wis is almost dead now, debates become toxic, people start hating each other.....

    • @White_Crystal_Snow
      @White_Crystal_Snow Před 4 měsíci +11

      For real, was talking about demon slayer not being mach 1 nor anything above, flash and Supergirl ran around the earth 10 times at mach 7, when I said that, they disliked my comment and one dude can't even debate and it's just barking nor biting.
      Also I found someone talking about the 3 powerscale wiki have you seen that?

    • @projectfm684
      @projectfm684  Před 4 měsíci +13

      Well, i am already done with powerscaling related stuff and matter of fact, this might be one of the last videos regarding powerscaling if not the last already that i will ever make.

    • @White_Crystal_Snow
      @White_Crystal_Snow Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@projectfm684 well rest in peace. You would be miss.
      Also before you go. I found a reddit post call
      "what does everyone think of the 3 powerscaling wiki"
      It's seems it creates its own?

    • @zainulabideen5490
      @zainulabideen5490 Před 4 měsíci

      ​​@@projectfm684Goodbye❤

    • @zainulabideen5490
      @zainulabideen5490 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@White_Crystal_Snowaccording to them, cw flash has immesurable speed😂
      Even comic flash's top speed it 1 autosecond.... infinite speed only possible by time manipulation
      I miss the time when anti principle,auren,monad and Zenith are at top 4
      Everyone respect each other and accept this.

  • @user-uo6nx9gn8l
    @user-uo6nx9gn8l Před 4 měsíci +4

    1:18
    Just for clarification: mods have already discussed this problem in the same thread that you credited. R>F Transcendence would be much more stricter than it is currently treated on Wiki

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci +1

      R>F transcendence True/Highest interpretation undescribably > any other Transcendence

    • @user-uo6nx9gn8l
      @user-uo6nx9gn8l Před 4 měsíci

      @@blizzard1198☠︎︎

    • @AndreyG-vo2he
      @AndreyG-vo2he Před 2 měsíci

      What does "meta" mean?

    • @AndreyG-vo2he
      @AndreyG-vo2he Před 2 měsíci

      @@blizzard1198 What does "meta" mean?

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@AndreyG-vo2he sorry for being late, you still interested in the meaning?

  • @laa4157
    @laa4157 Před měsícem +1

    More characters who should also qualify for Tier 0:
    The Mystery (Twin Peaks)
    The Carpenter and Nikies the Byzantine (YCFTW)
    The Conceptual Sea (The Backrooms Database)
    The Godhead (The Elder Scrolls)
    Various Characters from Blue and White Series
    Yog-Sothoth (Cthulhu Mythos)
    Ein Sof (World of Darkness)
    Self-Reference ENGINE (Character)
    Atzmus (Unsong)
    The Nameless Being (Nasuverse)

    • @omniverse681
      @omniverse681 Před 23 dny

      featherine Augustus aurora 0
      nemo ex machina self-reference 0
      law of identity 0

  • @pf-edits
    @pf-edits Před 4 měsíci +25

    finally, not a million SCPs in tier 0

    • @kaktusEdit219
      @kaktusEdit219 Před 4 měsíci +12

      yes, even after the scp it has a very strong transcendental and cosmological logic

    • @CosmicAizen616
      @CosmicAizen616 Před 4 měsíci +2

      W vsbw

    • @gz8311
      @gz8311 Před 4 měsíci +4

      SCPverse will casually bullied with this new tiering system

    • @lofilover549
      @lofilover549 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@gz8311 nope as scp does have a boundlless character

    • @FARSHOOSH
      @FARSHOOSH Před 4 měsíci

      They weren't even a single scp in tier 0 😭, all of them were below tiering

  • @7.adityachandra925
    @7.adityachandra925 Před 3 měsíci

    Rules for mods and member when??? Thats the most important update

  • @Atomic866
    @Atomic866 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Ngl under this tiering system it would be easier to make a tier 0 character than a high 1-A+

    • @ziadhulhok
      @ziadhulhok Před 4 měsíci +1

      Huh no 😭

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      But how many writers would do that, seeing all requirements for tier 0?

    • @Atomic866
      @Atomic866 Před 4 měsíci

      @@blizzard1198 I think there would be a good few. If you want an omnipotent God figure in your universe as part of your fictional religion or something, its def viable

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Atomic866 probably still less then the old 1 before, majority writers don't know these things, especially this one. Maybe it will become popular 1 day, that aside I hope you don't mind me asking, what are your thoughts on apophatic theology?

    • @Atomic866
      @Atomic866 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@blizzard1198 Probably, the dimensional tiering system is what many writers tend to use and using conceptual scaling found in apophatic theology and similar stuff can be a bit icky at times and hard to determine without context

  • @daymare0
    @daymare0 Před 4 měsíci

    nice

  • @ItzSwxzy
    @ItzSwxzy Před 24 dny

    Woah so Issei is actually Boundless even by VSBW 😂

  • @SorenDoesStuff
    @SorenDoesStuff Před 4 měsíci +6

    The “character cannot become boundless” thing is really the only thing I disagree with maybe the “can’t be 2 boundless beings” one too it’s not really a good update overall so I’m just not gonna use it

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci +1

      True and same

    • @wallcatpl810
      @wallcatpl810 Před 3 měsíci +1

      How tier 1 works is meh too. I mean any character above dimensionality of it's own verse will automatically be tier 1-A, and above all mathematical levels. I don't really like it.

    • @omniverse681
      @omniverse681 Před 23 dny

      ​@@wallcatpl810
      low 1-A = aleph 1 to absolute infinity
      +1 1-A = aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      +2 1-A = aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      + absolute infinity 0+ 1-A = aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      +1 high 1-A = aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      +2 high 1-A = aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      absolute infinity + 0+ high 1-A = aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      +1 high 1-A = aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      +2 ... 1+ .... +1 .... absolute infinity
      +1 ... +1 .... +1 .... absolute infinity
      absolute infinity + absolute infinity .... aleph 0
      aleph 1 to absolute infinity
      aleph 0 to absolute infinity
      .... +1 .... +1 .... absolute infinity
      .... all hierarchies = high 1-A+
      beyond hierarchies = true omnipotence = monad = tier 0

    • @omniverse681
      @omniverse681 Před 23 dny

      ​@@wallcatpl810
      the creator 0
      featherine Augustus aurora high 1-A+

  • @zirotsero6951
    @zirotsero6951 Před 4 měsíci +4

    1:19 WOOOOHHHHH, They all said I was crazy, THEY ALL SAID I WAS CRAZY
    Side note…. WHAT HAS VS BATTLE WIKI DONE TO ITSELF, yog sothoth isn’t even the strongest guy in his verse

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      Yog-sothoth is omnipotent or the supreme architype.

    • @saviornub6534
      @saviornub6534 Před 4 měsíci

      Omnipotence still doesnt mean anything, you'll need cosmology to get there

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 3 měsíci

      @@saviornub6534 he said you sothoth wasn't the strongest in his verse so I explained that he's omnipotent and the supreme archetype, making him the strongest

  • @Rhetorical_Ife
    @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci +1

    1:34 The 5th and 6th requirements completely destroys all of fiction. Take for example, World of Darkness. There's clearly an established hierarchy in the verse. This would mean there'd be no boundless character in that verse. The same goes for SCP. And SCP is full of characters. Characters can't be boundless, like ultima said, so that'd mean no character in SCP is tier 0. The same goes for characters in WoD too, since it's pretty obvious there's characters in the verse.

    • @monstersfight4171
      @monstersfight4171 Před 3 měsíci

      If you separated the branches, The Mind and The Supreme Author would be Boundless

    • @zirotsero6951
      @zirotsero6951 Před 3 měsíci

      Wod had always been fodder….. Dragon Ball Cosmology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WoD

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 3 měsíci

      @@zirotsero6951 FR

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 2 měsíci

      @@zirotsero6951 I don't usually say this but.. On God it has!

    • @faisalislamchowdhury5183
      @faisalislamchowdhury5183 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Rhetorical_Ife SCP is even more fodder, way too many contradictions

  • @supershenron4688
    @supershenron4688 Před 4 měsíci

    Idk but it sort of looks like tier 0 is reverting back to tier 11 no back to 12

  • @Midtierlightskin
    @Midtierlightskin Před 4 měsíci +2

    Isn't that just Non duality and Transduality type 3 on csap? Ok well we now have boundless Anos and kratos 🗣️

    • @TheShadow5021
      @TheShadow5021 Před 3 měsíci

      i did see a video of a guy scaling anos to irrelevant layers into boundless with irrelevant speeds

    • @Scp2747_theblackthorn
      @Scp2747_theblackthorn Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheShadow5021It's not for nothing, but I think it's somewhat illogical to put "layers" on boundless, that would make Tier 0 meaningless. It is like saying that there are infinities larger than others, which does not make sense and would make infinity NO longer infinite (and I mean real and fictitious infinity). So yeah, that would be a resounding “Cap" for the one who made that short.

    • @TheShadow5021
      @TheShadow5021 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Scp2747_theblackthorn true i guess, but for the infinities larger than infinities thing, it exists mainly for set theory or higher stacking dimensions such as the 4th dimension is infinitely larger than any size that exists in the 3rd dimension.

    • @Scp2747_theblackthorn
      @Scp2747_theblackthorn Před 3 měsíci

      @@TheShadow5021 I agree with what you say, the issue is that they say that this is superior to Tier 0, which doesn't make much sense to me because that Tier is supposed to be Omniscience literally. And there is nothing stronger than Omniscience, Omnipotence and Omnipresence. And if there were many tier 0s, they would all have the same power due to this rule.

  • @Apex15699
    @Apex15699 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Ok time its to use csap and psw.

  • @Skullbro-bd4ue
    @Skullbro-bd4ue Před 4 měsíci

    i don't agree with 1:18 before you could just scale to absolute ifnniity and you would be instantly boundless. Plus now to be outerversal you gotta transcends dimensionality as a whole and all cardinals as well as absolute infinity and other concepts with R-F transcendance. And you still need context atleast to scale to outerversal now.

  • @daymare0
    @daymare0 Před 4 měsíci +2

    agreed, in the end it's just a debate about fictional beings

  • @gz8311
    @gz8311 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Based from waht I see in this new Tier 0, there are many fictional characters that can reach this tier, such Overvoid (DC Comics), 「 」 (Nasuverse), Atzmus (Unsong), God (Seekers Into the Mystery) and the Axiom (Megami Tensei)
    Another crazy thing here is that SCPverse, Marvel and possibly World of Darkness can't really reach that Tier

    • @erenkaratepe8846
      @erenkaratepe8846 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Basically they tried to apply apophatism to VSBW

    • @gz8311
      @gz8311 Před 4 měsíci

      @@erenkaratepe8846 ... true.

    • @iqbal_pratama43
      @iqbal_pratama43 Před 4 měsíci

      W for overvoid mention lmao, Morrison overvoid is easily H1-T+ in PSW i don't know why they downgrade it

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@erenkaratepe8846Nah, not entirely true. Characters who are plainly indescribable or ineffable aren't qualifiable for Tier 0. In other words, merely being apophatic won't satisfy for Tier 0, there needs to be more context to suggest otherwise.

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

      The guy who made the revision thread doesn't think Megami Tensei fits the requirements for Tier 0. And yeah, not many characters from SCP nor WoD are Tier 0. And that's mostly because, to be Tier 0, you can't change form, and you also can't be a character.

  • @terellisaac317
    @terellisaac317 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Glad to see the dharmakaya getting respect!

  • @thecursedchannel3703
    @thecursedchannel3703 Před 4 měsíci

    new tiering 1B = old tiering H1A

  • @Based_Gigachad_001
    @Based_Gigachad_001 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Divine comedy and journey to the west is fiction? Also, where do you scale the story where the puppets kill god?

    • @Sukuna2018dec
      @Sukuna2018dec Před 4 měsíci +8

      Divine comedy and Journey to the west are books inspired from religion but aren’t religious texts themselves

    • @Based_Gigachad_001
      @Based_Gigachad_001 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@Sukuna2018dec They were so popular they changed our understanding and perception of religion. When people think of hell they think of the 9 circles and when people think of Chinese mythology they think of the monkey king.

    • @zainulabideen5490
      @zainulabideen5490 Před 4 měsíci

      Caracal cat vs bobcat (same height)
      Bobcat vs lynx
      Who would win?

    • @Based_Gigachad_001
      @Based_Gigachad_001 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@zainulabideen5490 Second one is lynx because a lynx is literally a bobcat but bigger. First one is 50/50 but I give the slight edge to the Caracal.

    • @zainulabideen5490
      @zainulabideen5490 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@Based_Gigachad_001Caracal hissing is scary af💀
      Can caracal kill a deer like bobcat

  • @GOJIRAKILLER2.4
    @GOJIRAKILLER2.4 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Does Goku slams Fiction?
    Yes

    • @kaktusEdit219
      @kaktusEdit219 Před 4 měsíci +3

      goku is still weak 😍🤗

    • @GOJIRAKILLER2.4
      @GOJIRAKILLER2.4 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@kaktusEdit219
      And still solos Fiction fr fr fr

    • @Apex15699
      @Apex15699 Před 4 měsíci +2

      That was a joke

    • @zirotsero6951
      @zirotsero6951 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I always knew he did, glad FM finally confirmed it to these mindless sheep who only claim to know how to scale to act cool and show off to fellow online nerds they don’t even know that they think they know who’s strongest

    • @user-dv5my5yg5t
      @user-dv5my5yg5t Před 3 měsíci +1

      By Goku what do you (plural) mean? Canon or the other Gokus? The other Gokus are beast. Specially God Fusion and Jump.

  • @Rhetorical_Ife
    @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

    Type IV Multiverses are now nerfed to Low 1-A. Sad sad update, but I'm somewhat here for it. Now people will calm down with the Tegmark args. And the whole existing beyond logic equaling to Tier 0 thingamajig is now entirely dependent on the type of logical system the verse uses, and context, so that's something, I guess.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      Nah they'll still neg, it depends on individual verse and many other factors but regardless if the wiki said type 4 multiverse is hyperversal it wouldn't actually make it hyperversal.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      Type 4 multiverse true scaling is independent of any definition or subjective tiering.

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

      @@blizzard1198 Low outer is the *full breadth* of a type iv multiverse, suggesting its true existence and volume of a type iv multiverse. This would make a type iv multiverse low outerversal blatantly.

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

      @@blizzard1198 If the wiki has a good reason for it, then it's valid, it'd be hyperversal. I don't understand your point.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Rhetorical_Ife I know, but individual verse's can take a type 4 multiverse way higher but regardless, what valid reason could they be to scale it hyperversal? Even then valid is subjective etc. I guess what I'm getting at is, if the wiki suddenly said to be outerversal you need a blue moustache too, and had valid reasoning, that wouldn't make characters beyond space-time now below outer, the true tier remains the same regardless of any subjective reasoning etc.

  • @ameeralhussainyforgaming5439
    @ameeralhussainyforgaming5439 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I have a question what is the limit of the regular tiering system, is it mathmatical
    Or is it logical

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

      Logic.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      Logic.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      Logic because, we can say character A is bound to maths or is maths and character B is unbound by maths, the logical conclusion would be character B would beat character A and exceeds them but without logic, this logical conclusion might not be or is not applicable at all, we could say character A could simply blink B out of existence or anything else, so something 11-C could beat a multiversal character , or maybe thats a logical conclusion i arrived to by trying to do some illogical logic even though logic would be inapplicable.

  • @Identity_Concealed
    @Identity_Concealed Před 4 měsíci +3

    So what tiering system are you going to use now? Or are you still going to use the new vsbw?

  • @White_Crystal_Snow
    @White_Crystal_Snow Před 4 měsíci +2

    I kinda don't understand low 2 c - high 1b can someone explain it to me.
    Edit I understand but it suck, 😕 I think the reddit dude that just made its own for fun, I think,, eh, kinda alright but it's need more things for it. But for vsbattle wiki now it's idk, boundless is kinda dumb since Nemo ex machine, WoD, Lovecraft mytho, and other that was published years ago has characters to tier 0.

    • @White_Crystal_Snow
      @White_Crystal_Snow Před 4 měsíci

      never mind, I did now understand, but is quantitative>>>aleph nulls?
      And as for only being 1 boundless, what if there's a lot? Like SCP, Lovecraft mytho, Nemo ex mechanic, WOD? What would happen to them? And if it's only one what about beyond system tiering?

    • @AdamVhenPh
      @AdamVhenPh Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@White_Crystal_Snow Did example?

    • @White_Crystal_Snow
      @White_Crystal_Snow Před 4 měsíci

      @@AdamVhenPh wha?

    • @AdamVhenPh
      @AdamVhenPh Před 4 měsíci

      @@White_Crystal_Snow well they're a SRE.

  • @leoduckthedebater616
    @leoduckthedebater616 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I pretty much agree the update of 1-A and H1-A but tier 0 update is kinda bad lol

    • @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ
      @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ Před 4 měsíci +1

      I've always been annoyed by the ACF system. VSBW is now literally ACF and Tier 0 is now High 1-S

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      ​​@@НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ I disagree with it being 1-S , they are completely different

    • @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ
      @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ Před 4 měsíci

      @@blizzard1198 High 1-S from ACF-superiority over everything that is in fiction
      And tier 0 is the same now💀

    • @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ
      @НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ Před 4 měsíci

      @@omniverse681 И зачем ты это сюда написал?Эту систему никто не использует.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      @@НЕВЕДОМАЯ_ХРЕНЬ What is ACF?

  • @moiseschristianjoyregalado7049

    Do Yogiri Debunk

  • @Mr-Rocket-1
    @Mr-Rocket-1 Před 4 měsíci +6

    1:18 umineko fan glazing after seeing this

  • @herobrine_geroy
    @herobrine_geroy Před 4 měsíci +9

    This tier just doesn't make any sense right now. Let's imagine 2 verses, both reach tier 0, but one of them is unimaginably stronger than the other. So, the strongest character from the weaker verse will be tier 0. The strongest character from the stronger verse will obviously also be tier 0. But a slightly weaker character will already have high 1-A, despite the fact that he is cosmologically much stronger than the strongest character from the weaker verse. What do we have in the end? tier 0 does not cope with its task of identifying a stronger character, but simply flatters its ego that few characters will get it. Absolutely requires recycling.

  • @Rewrite111
    @Rewrite111 Před 4 měsíci +4

    .

  • @Meetrandomtimes
    @Meetrandomtimes Před 4 měsíci +2

    1:34 "A Tier 0 cannot have parts" can some one explain what this means?

    • @dotand0
      @dotand0 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I suppose it means the cannot have separate entities within that being? I dont know

    • @anticartoonunion
      @anticartoonunion Před 4 měsíci +2

      That's means 0A, 0B and 0C is not exist

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

      @@dotand0You're correct.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      They cannot be tiers or heirachies surrounding it probably

  • @khoabui5010
    @khoabui5010 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hello project fm, if you read this comment, I would like to ask you to scale adonai in masa Ha'khalal Ha'insufi and unvoice

  • @NemoExMachina
    @NemoExMachina Před 4 měsíci +1

    Can anyone summarize (very briefly) the differences between the high tiers of VSBW vs CSAP vs PSW? Thank you

    • @dragosandrei8505
      @dragosandrei8505 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Tier 0( Boundless )
      Characters or objects that can affect structures which completely exceed the logical foundations of High 1-A, much like it exceeds the ones defining 1-A and below, meaning that all possible levels of High 1-A are exceeded, even an infinite or uncountably amount of such levels. This tier has no endpoint, and can be extended to any higher level just like the ones above.
      (Vsbw)
      1-S(extraversal)
      Characters who exist so far beyond the baseline of Outerverse level and High Outerverse level that using such tiers to categorize them has become cumbersome. This tier is intended to be used for talking about some of the largest and or strongest things that have been found in fiction, and is not something that should be seen as the next new thing to try to put characters at.
      (Csap)
      Tier 0: Apeiron
      Beings that exist far beyond indeterminateness and language as a whole, conforming to the ineffability thesis. This affirms that in the room of divinity, one ought to not utter anything but silence.
      (Psw)
      This îs mostly their description but there all different then each other whatsoever

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 4 měsíci

      Before i begin I'll just leave this note here.
      outerversal is to be transcendant of space-time and dimensionality,axiomatically or conceptually etc, in other words are aspacial and atemporal existences.
      Vsbw first definition of Tier 0,an outerversal transcendence to a outerversal transcendence to another outerversal transcendence/3x outerversal transcendences/ outerversal transcendence to high-outerversal
      Second definition after changes, Outerversal or possibly higher infinities bound to spatio-temporal dimensionality ( I'm not really sure here cause i didnt observe it much)
      new definition now is most likely Hegel's pure being
      Here's a copy paste
      .The basic moves of this chapter can be fairly straightforwardly rehearsed: it begins with pure being, understood as ‘pure indeterminacy and emptiness’ (WL 59/5:82). Without any difference, determination, or content, Hegel says, ‘there is nothing’ in this concept to be thought.
      You can do more research if want.
      Extraversal, an infinite amount of outerversal transcendences or in other words, 1 is outerversal, 2 is High-outerversal, 3 is the first vsbw definition of boundless, 4 is a outerversal transcendence of boundless, all up to infinity. A heirachy of infinite outerversal transcendences.
      Psw, Apophatic theology or negative theology, it is the idea or belief that we can only describe what God is not, example, God is not bound by space-time, God is not physical or incorporeal, God does not exist between daulities,God is not finite or infinite. It's like describing the lack of information about God or said fictional character, it exceeds any all conceptions and descriptions and everything else along with my description right now and so you can only stay silent, no tiering can be applicable to it, nothing can.

    • @omniverse681
      @omniverse681 Před 11 hodinami

      низкий 1-С : уровень космологий данного персонажа работают в рамках маленьких кардиналов до абсолютного бесконечности. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать абсолютный бесконечный лестница, внутри каждых есть своя маленький кардиналы до абсолютной бесконечности.
      средний 1-С : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит абсолютную бесконечную лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из низкого 1-С подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать абсолютный бесконечный лестница, внутри каждых есть своя маленький кардиналы до абсолютной бесконечности.
      высокий 1-С : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит абсолютную бесконечную лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из среднего 1-С подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать абсолютный бесконечный лестница, внутри каждых есть своя маленький кардиналы до абсолютной бесконечности.
      низкий 1-В : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит абсолютную бесконечную лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из низкого, среднего, высокого 1-С подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать абсолютный бесконечный лестница, внутри каждых есть своя маленький кардиналы до абсолютной бесконечности.
      средний 1-В : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит абсолютную бесконечную лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из низкого 1-В подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать абсолютный бесконечный лестница, внутри каждых есть своя маленький кардиналы до абсолютной бесконечности.
      высокий 1-В : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит абсолютную бесконечную лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из среднего 1-В подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать абсолютный бесконечный лестница, внутри каждых есть своя маленький кардиналы до абсолютной бесконечности.
      низкий 1-А : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит физическую систему. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать аналогичная по внутренному маштабу иерархии метафизических структур соответствующего порядка.
      средний 1-А : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит метафизическую лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из низкого 1-А подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать аналогичная по внутренному маштабу иерархии метафизических структур соответствующего порядка.
      высокий 1-А : уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит метафизическую лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из среднего 1-А подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать аналогичная по внутренному маштабу иерархии метафизических структур соответствующего порядка.
      низкий 1-S : Уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит метафизическую систему. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать аналогичная по внутренному маштабу иерархии метафизических структур соответствующего порядка.
      средний 1-S : Уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит сверхразмерную лестницу, внутри которого соседние лестницы, превосходит лестницу из низкого 1-S подуровня. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать аналогичная по внутренному маштабу иерархии сверхразмерных структур соответствующего порядка.
      высокий 1-S : Уровень космологий данного персонажа превосходит метафизическую систему. при этом внутри самого данного подуровня могут существовать аналогичная по внутренному маштабу иерархии метафизических структур соответствующего порядка.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 7 hodinami

      @@omniverse681 sorry I can't translate it into a language I understand

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Před 7 hodinami

      @@omniverse681 Are you using Power scaling wiki?

  • @LordDrakkonSolosSCP
    @LordDrakkonSolosSCP Před 4 měsíci

    lord drakkon still onetaps comp fiction
    in writing of course

    • @ltrxl
      @ltrxl Před 3 měsíci

      i edge to lord drakkon every night

  • @theghostofprussia2438
    @theghostofprussia2438 Před 4 měsíci +3

    So is "i am that i am" not tier 0 anymore?

    • @erenkaratepe8846
      @erenkaratepe8846 Před 4 měsíci +7

      No, IATIA still satistifies all classifications for tier 0

    • @Skullbro-bd4ue
      @Skullbro-bd4ue Před 4 měsíci

      @@erenkaratepe8846 no he is only layers into 1-A now since EMR is only 1-A and type 4 multiverse is Low 1-A

    • @erenkaratepe8846
      @erenkaratepe8846 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@Skullbro-bd4ue Hegelian Absolute Infinity? IATIA is waaay above EMR and Type 4

    • @Skullbro-bd4ue
      @Skullbro-bd4ue Před 4 měsíci

      @@erenkaratepe8846 not really

    • @erenkaratepe8846
      @erenkaratepe8846 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Skullbro-bd4ue Weaver scales to EMR, IATIA is waaaay above the Weaver.

  • @Hi-IamBonnie
    @Hi-IamBonnie Před 4 měsíci

    Can you scale unvoice? I saw this thing yesterday

  • @Rhetorical_Ife
    @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

    Auren is Tier 0 by this metric.

  • @protoss9987
    @protoss9987 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Isn't Azathoth stronger than Yog-Stoth?

    • @theghostofprussia2438
      @theghostofprussia2438 Před 4 měsíci +4

      No

    • @protoss9987
      @protoss9987 Před 4 měsíci

      @@theghostofprussia2438 How and why?
      Reality is Azathoth's dream, is Yog-Stoth is beyond it?

    • @matejastankovic1409
      @matejastankovic1409 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Nope, Yog Sothoth is the Supreme Being of CM, Azathoth was never stated in any of Lovecrafts books to dream reality

    • @Hazel564
      @Hazel564 Před 4 měsíci

      no if you actually read cthulu mythos its stated that when azathoth wakes up he will destroy the physical world and only void would remain so everything will die except for the gods in the void(Ex.nyarlathotep,shub,etc) and he will go asleep again. also the court of azathoth is below the first gate meaning azathoth is weaker than yog sothoth who is beyond the gates itself there are two character beyond azathoth the man that yog sothoth gave power and manage to go beyond the gates itself(i forgot his name since its been a while) and yog sothoth. azathoth cannot destroy the gates and azathoth and everything else(the void,gods,the existance,etc) is just yog sothoth's avatars he is everything and nothing he is the only confirmed omnipotent,omnipresent and omniscience meanwhile azathoth was never stated to be any said above @@protoss9987

    • @alimehrabi519r2
      @alimehrabi519r2 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@protoss9987this whole reality is azathoth dream is a mistranslation.

  • @CosmicAizen616
    @CosmicAizen616 Před 4 měsíci

    More characters who should qualify for tier 0:
    The one (transformers)
    Eru iluvatar (lord of the rings)
    Luminous being (dungeons and dragons)
    God (unsong)
    Self reference ENGINE
    If I've missed any, please reply

    • @CosmicAizen616
      @CosmicAizen616 Před 4 měsíci

      Ok@@omniverse681

    • @leoduckthedebater616
      @leoduckthedebater616 Před 4 měsíci

      Ultima was said God unsong will never reach tier 0

    • @CosmicAizen616
      @CosmicAizen616 Před 4 měsíci

      Also I forgot
      I am that I am world of darkness

    • @matejastankovic1409
      @matejastankovic1409 Před 4 měsíci

      I think The Clear Light from Twin Peaks

    • @iqbal_pratama43
      @iqbal_pratama43 Před 4 měsíci

      Probably surprising but Monitor Mind - The Overvoid (DC) from morrison final crisis is qualified for tier 0

  • @kingpengu8895
    @kingpengu8895 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Wait "a character connot become tier 0" 💀💀 huh
    With 2 I disagree
    And I don’t understand 3 and 7

    • @BluezDrako
      @BluezDrako Před 4 měsíci +6

      Well, before the update, there was some 1-B characters in other wikis that surpassed by a lot 0 tiers characters from vs battle wiki, but now that tier 0 is updated and actually powerfull, they only make things so specifically to make a character in that specific tier, still wikis like psw and csap can have 1-B characters even stronger than vsbw 0 tiers but not necesarily falling in the vsbw tier 0 requeriment, kinda weird but is just how it works in vsbw.. that's why I really think we should have more 0 subtiers

    • @kaktusEdit219
      @kaktusEdit219 Před 4 měsíci +1

      but this already exists in the layers
      •beyond
      •infinity
      •inaccessible
      •imensurable
      •irrelevant

  • @Demifiendsolosyourfavverse
    @Demifiendsolosyourfavverse Před 4 měsíci

    Do y like more the old or new?

  • @Bloxfruitsistrashlmaocope
    @Bloxfruitsistrashlmaocope Před 4 měsíci +1

    Just say i am that i am is the strongest life is to short to debate

    • @herobrine_geroy
      @herobrine_geroy Před 4 měsíci +4

      The Supreme Narrator is strongest.

    • @erenkaratepe8846
      @erenkaratepe8846 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@herobrine_geroyMr. "My oc solos" guy is back

    • @herobrine_geroy
      @herobrine_geroy Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@erenkaratepe8846 you're such a scoundrel. Why do you have so much hate in you?

    • @herobrine_geroy
      @herobrine_geroy Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@erenkaratepe8846 Why do you have so much hate in you?

    • @zirotsero6951
      @zirotsero6951 Před 4 měsíci

      1:19

  • @user-sm3bo7ve4q
    @user-sm3bo7ve4q Před 4 měsíci

    So goku slams touhou,umineko,scp?

  • @DivingMamba639
    @DivingMamba639 Před 4 měsíci +10

    CSAP is Better than VBW

  • @nayan.punekar
    @nayan.punekar Před 3 měsíci

    Goku slams fiction lol

  • @herobrine_geroy
    @herobrine_geroy Před 4 měsíci +5

    Absolute garbage. Tier 0 is just a piece of sh*t now.

    • @requiemgiorno0827
      @requiemgiorno0827 Před 4 měsíci

      It just doesn't make any sense dude

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 4 měsíci

      It really is nonsensical. Tier 0 necessitates for any fictional character to not be Tier 0, because if you're a character, you'd be defined by form, and form's a quality. We know that since Tier 0 can't be defined by any quality, that'd mean any fictional character simply cannot be Tier 0 no matter what.

  • @African-AmericanGoose
    @African-AmericanGoose Před 2 měsíci

    *why they removed inaccessible speed* 😭