JAWS 4K UHD BLU-RAY REVIEW
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- The new 4K UHD Blu-ray disc reviewed in a real home theatre / home cinema. Includes the history of Jaws on home movie media including Super 8, Laser Disc, DVD and Blu-ray.
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It's all psychological. You yell "DVD", everyone says "Huh? What?" But you yell "4K HDR" and you've got a panic on your hands on the fourth of July.
Brilliant!
New to the channel and absolutely love the historical, technical and comparative analysis with a fair and honest review style across every movie reviewed.
Thank you. Jaws is a bit of a special film so it was nice to be able to talk about some of my memories of it. John.
Another classic gem... How can this movie NOT be good with the 3 R's, Roy, Richard, and Robert! I'll have to add this to my list of 4k movies to buy... John, I Love the panache you bring to these presentations, Thank you for the hard work you put into your channel so a guy like me, across the pond, can enjoy!
The three Rs! I hadn't ever thought of that. Very good!
Great content. Thank you for all the work you put in your videos. Cinema is Magic.
Thank you Stephan.
John.
Wonderful channel. So glad to have discovered you. Jaws is one of my top 5 movies and loved your review and agree it looks amazing on 4k bluray. I have the limited edition NTSC Laserdisc box set with the soundtrack and book and still watch that version when feeling nostalgic. Now working through your other videos. Keep up the great work on this channel.
I think the 4K of Jaws is the best transfer thus far of a 35mm film. The 6K scan seems to have done the trick although it looks to have been very fine grain negative stock which is a nice surprise from 1975. Other 4K releases are even better but that's because they've come from large film formats such as 70mm or VistaVision.
Glad you found me and thank you for watching. John.
Great video. Have also subscribed. It is really interesting to hear the history about the restoration and picture format so please keep including such information.
That was a main driver for me finally starting the channel last May Andreas. See what you think of the Alien review which has only just uploaded and why I've been a little tardy in replying to messages on here.
John.
Good day sir! Just became a subscriber! You remind me of me!! Been in the movie collector business for 55 years!
Gone from 8mm to Super 8, 16mm, video tape, RCA CED disc, Laserdisc, DVD, Blu Ray and Now 4K UHD!
I’ve enjoyed this hobby immensely! I listen to you and hear you mention meticulous details that most people let, fly above their heads!
Nice work! Stay safe
A fellow movie collector. Charles, hopefully we'll meet one day at a film collector convention - BFCC perhaps?
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I would look forward to that
You are quickly becoming one of my favourite channels. Keep up the good work. I want to step up my experiences with 4k so I need to get a good player and calibrate my TV.
Don't bother doing any technical calibration on your telly Aisback as all you need are your eyes. Play with it, play with it and play with it some more. Never give up fiddling because these 4K discs tend to be different every time and to get the best out of them you'll need to get fairly adept at what to do. The main thing is the brightness of HDR. Most players have it set on full by default and people tend to leave it there. Many discs look so much better with the HDR brightness down. Also, ensure all digital 'enhancements' are either minimized or off because all they do is mess up the picture. 'Sharpen' is the worst offender in this regard.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 thank you for the comment. I'm a CX owner and I normally is it leave it on the most accurate mode and leave it there. I hope we get newer UHD players soon as I fear they are being phased out.
@@aisback1990 I expect there will be players around for years to come yet Aisback. It seems that the UHD discs have done rather well during the pandemic so Panasonic and other manufacturers will be encouraged to add a few extras onto their models, give them different model numbers and sell them to the same people all over again!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I'll he waiting for CES to pick up a new player from Panasonic. Thank you again
Great video and I love the effort you put into your content. Nothing wrong with “just sitting in front of a camera chatting”, but a good creative intro goes a long way!
Also, Jaws is now on my shortlist 👍🏻
Possibly the best 4K from a 35mm film so far. Better 4K discs are from larger format films which says a lot for the work that went into this Jaws transfer at 6K. John.
Hi, I recently watched your Jaws 4k review and have to say it takes me back to the ‘Barry Norman’ Film......! From the 70’s to the 90’s. I found your attention to detail and explanations of what went on originally, and presently, really interesting. I only happened to come across your channel by chance, but I immediately subscribed. (And purchased the 4k version of Jaws!) keep up the good work. Very well done!
Thank you Mark. That's a real confidence boost. Having said that, I hope you like the 4K of Jaws as much as I do. One of the best releases of the past 12 months in my opinion, particularly impressive considering it was standard 35mm and not VistaVision or 65mm. John.
" You gonna need a bigger screen"... Loved it.
Thanks jk. This Jaws video was almost two years ago now but it's done rather well overall. John.
Recently found you channel after being stuck in the house isolating and what a pleasure it's been. Amazing work and information in every video. You've earned yourself a new subscriber.
Lovely to hear from you Lee and great to have you with me. I hope you like Sam Raimi's Spider-Man films because they're next... once I've got all this work out of the way that's hanging over me because I've really got to try to earn some money!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 haha! I know that feeling. John I'm wondering if you can help me with a audio problem I'm having at the moment?
Im running everything into my TV and then to my receiver via HDMI ARC.
Everything seems to be working spot on... Until I play a Blu ray with DTS audio! It plays everything formatted in DTS to 2.0 (all by surround speakers play full audio).
Anything with Dolby works fine and how it should as long as it's 5.1 or above.
I've checked and the receiver and it does support both DTS and DD.
Could it be the blu ray player, That doesn't support DTS? Surely not? How can a player not support DTS? I've tried looking online for hours and I can't find anything.
@@BeersAndBlurays It sounds like the Blu-ray player is not outputting DTS correctly through HDMI so perhaps there's a setting in there for what goes down the HDMI. I'm not enamoured with these HDMI one size fits all players that are being foisted on us now so are there any other outputs from your player? If there's a second HDMI then it's possible to run that into a cheapie converter box to split the outputs and thereby get an optical out but that's something for later if all else fails. My amplifier dates from 1999/2000 so I can't use an HDMI to it anyway but the point is I have an optical output on my player to the optical input of the amp and it all works flawlessly. I do think older amplifiers were easier to control and operate even though mine is an extremely complicated Pioneer THX Ultra that you need a degree in to get it all setup correctly. John.
@@moviecollector5920 thank you so much for your time John it's really appreciated. I've since found out my new OLED LG TV doesn't support DTS anymore so I cannot pass the audio from it to my receiver 🤦♂️ I'm going to have to go the long way around.
@@BeersAndBlurays That's a bit of an oversight by LG. I had something similar on my Optoma projector which I did let Optoma know they'd got wrong and subsequently they updated their literature. They built in a digital pass-through so the sound could go in through the HDMI and then come out via an optical and thereby onto an amplifier. Unfortunately, whoever actually designed and engineered it didn't understand that matrix stereo sound and digital multi-channel sound were two different things and therefore all you could at your amplifier was Dolby Stereo (aka Dolby ProLogic). That is why I had to get a player with an optical out. I did try the HDMI splitter route but with two different splitters I was able to confirm that as soon as an HDMI is split it loses the ability to pass through 4K video. I got digital multi-channel sound through them but no longer had 4K video! You just can't win with these things. John.
Oh wow your set up looks fantastic. I've been meaning to upgrade Jaws for a while. A really interesting video.
You might have tempted me on Close Encounters too.
Cheers
James (JT) 😁
The Blu-ray of Jaws is exceptional but the HDR on the 4K disc makes it stand apart. One of those with a definite discernible difference on my system but again, it is only the HDR that gives it that difference. Just about to do a review of Escape From New York where there is no discernible difference between the two. Maybe there would be on a 30ft screen or a television but not through my Optoma video projector.
I gotta tell ya'; I am incredibly impressed by this video. Not only for what it is, but for the quality itself. You have only made three videos and have this many views and subscribers? Incredibly great job my friend. OK, now to the theater. This is also pretty damn impressive. I have a home theater that I build with my own hands in the middle of a blank space of a basement. However, I have a projector which displays my BluRays, but not an official movie theater reel to reel projector. All that aside, DAMN Jaws is a great movie. I love your content, you have a new subscriber, My Friend. Great stuff. I'll be talkin' to ya'.
John
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And you have a new subscriber too @Project Ellsworth. I need to go through more than your latest video but I like your enthusiasm and cheeky style of presentation. Jaws is one of my favourite films but I do seem to have a lot of favourite films. Having been into Super 8 film all my life (well, from the age of two or three anyway) I have quite a long history of home movie collecting. Adding 16mm, 35mm and then video projection (once it got up to a standard that was almost acceptable about 15 years ago) it did make a permanent home cinema even more worthwhile. This particular home theatre had its first presentation in 2000 but was only a shell then. I painted the first proper screen a few weeks later and then started working out how to do it all properly. The curtains, moving masking and lights all got worked out during the following year but I did have problems for years getting everything working as well as it does today. As for the seats, the pair of blue ones were actually manufactured specially for us for our previous [two-seater] home cinema but the red ones came out of a closed down cinema somewhere in south London and only cost about £15 each as I recall. Red seats and red theatrical looking curtains meant I painted the walls red and put red bulbs in the lights. It's more of an old style picture palace than a modern type of cinema. The masking moves simply to enclose the projected image because it's not right having white areas of the screen showing around the top and bottom or left and right and black around the borders does fool the eye into thinking the contrast ratio is higher. Having real (reel?) film means you have all the original frame ratios projected in cinemas through the ages to display and this makes adjustable masking even more essential. Stay tuned because a Terminator retrospective should be next as the 4K 'Dark Fate' is on order from HMV... as is 'Cliffhanger'.
Ah Jaws, I have owned nearly every version put out on the home format, including the excellent NTSC laserdisc box set. Love your review, aspect ratio explanations and your set-up looks great. I've always wanted a multi aspect ratio screen, what size is it? And I wanted a projection booth too but our cinema space was not big enough to allow it. Just subscribed 👍
Thank you Dexter. The screen is actually the wall painted with brilliant white emulsion. It's the best option if a wall is available because it's flat, cheap to paint, easy to maintain and costs hardly anything to ever maintain. I painted a black border in and then used cardboard with deep black velvet to use as the masking which takes the screen size down to seven feet (give or take a couple of inches). I give more detail on this in a home cinema tour video I put up sometime after this Jaws video. It's amazing what you can do with string and sticky tape! Motorizing everything is surprisingly easy as all you really need is three curtain motors, two corded curtain rails and a roller blind. I control it all using X10 remote control (which is getting on for 20 years old now but it still works) but it can be done via extension leads and power switches. The lights are on X10 dimmers so I just press buttons once it's all powered up.
What great fun this hobby is!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Wow, great job John, well done! 🙂
Probably the best 4K reviewer I’ve ever seen.
He does seem to be pretty good!!! John.
Excellent video, really informative! Thanks. Always a pleasure to hear someone as passionate as I am talk about this film. Just seen a copy of the 200ft 8mm on eBay....tempted...
Most of the pre-1982 Super 8 films are fading now so they're not as good as they once were. Low fade film stocks came in around 1982 but there are exceptions and Super 8 releases from Walton here in England seem to have held up best over the years. I need to find the time to run a load of these older Super 8 releases sometime soon. Had a few trailers on yesterday but that was to shoot something for a forthcoming review video.
John.
Hi.. thanks for posting. very interesting video as always... from one Jaws enthusiast to another.... quick question.. I've recently become a fan of some of the full 35mm scans out there of feature films put into video file format with all scratches, worts and all... Team negative one did a lovely 'grindhouse' version of Empire Strikes Back... absolutely wonderful to project at home.. a full scan of an original 35mm print from early 80s... all the scratches and film grain just make the viewing experience even more pleasurable... I was wondering if you might be aware of or know if there is a similar video file out there of a 35mm Jaws print knocking around as that would be marvelous to project that at home one evening.
I don't know of a Jaws print that has been transferred for home use other than what has been done officially. The last print of Jaws that I saw was so totally knackered that the audience was laughing at it on occasion. You can get many of the top film on Super 8 though and that gives an similar experience... but many of the prints are a lot better than you would ever expect. John.
I just finally got my 4k player and TV. Jaws was the first movie I ordered on 4k. Thanks for the review.
I also just watched Blues Brothers and it looks fantastic too. The sound was also redone and it's quite good. Take a look! 👍
One day I'll get that Blues Brothers 4K disc. I just seem to have so many constantly on the shopping list. Jaws is one of the best though which belies it's anamorphic 35mm origin. Perhaps the quality of the transfer confirms the negative stock used to shoot the film in 1975 was very fine grained. Perhaps also it suggests that a 6K scan is the way forward for full-frame 35mm scans.
John.
Fantastic video, i have this on my wishlist now and can't wait to check it out, brilliant set up as well mate, thanks
Very nice of you to say that Bushman Blu. I'm currently thinking about how I can video my home cinema and tell everyone how it all hangs together because it's much simpler than most people would think. I hope you like Jaws when you pick up a copy. As you can see from the video it's one of the few films I have purchased over and over again but this 4K release is a little bit special.
@@moviecollector5920 Would love to see that!
Really enjoy your videos and you are a very knowledgeable man thank you. Best wishes.
@@FantasticDizzy1 The home cinema tour is up there. Did it about a year ago now but nothing has changed since then other than i've watched a heck of a lot of films in that time. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you I will watch. Best wishes.
Hi John, Just bought my first 4k HDR tv. I also ordered Jaws on UHD after your review, It's a marvel of a film.
That's a great 4K disc to start with Lborg - well done. If you want to see the best after that then get an order in for Murder On The Orient Express and perhaps Tenet too, but you'll have to watch my Tenet review video first to stand any chance of comprehending the whole convoluted storyline. John.
My favourite film ever (most days :) )
1st version i had was the CIC VHS from universal. Then had 2 versions on DVD (that gatefold is one and i still have it)
Then Bluray and now the 4K. It really is terrific as you say, the Atmos sound is amazing and so spine tingling.
Thanks for this video, really great viewing
You just need the Super 8 releases and the LaserDisc to complete the set! And perhaps a 35mm print... but now I'm dreaming! John.
Rest in peace Quint. What a way to go. Great vid John. I got to see this in the cinema in 2010 for the 35th anniversary. Loved it.
I saw it in 1975 Aemond. Probably the earliest of the memorable cinema visits I ever had being as I was only ten or eleven years old at the time. A few years later we had Star Wars and that was me set on a path that I'm still enjoying to this day even if I don't actually go to a cinema very often these days owing to the poor quality compared to times gone by. John.
@@moviecollector5920 John did you ever see any of the BBCs ghost stories for Christmas from the 1970s? Theres a blu ray coming out in December. Volume one.
@@Thecrows_eye i don't remember them but I expect i saw them. I'm not the biggest fan of the BBC any longer and so never purchase or never part with any money for anything with their name on it. Last thing of theirs I ever watched was the series Ashes To Ashes which finished in 2010 and then at the end of that we had the digital switch over and I called it a day with television. Never looked back as life has proven to be better without it.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 bbc has gone very woke indeed. just ordered Jurassic Park and Alien on 4K that’s my weekend sorted.
Another great job John, Might add this to my 4K collection. Look forward to the next one.
It really is a terrific transfer Ged but if you already have the Blu-ray you might find there is very little noticeable difference. I put the 4K disc on my television late last night and went to the ferry crossing sequence with the gold/bronze car and it didn't have anywhere near as much impact as when projected. I dare say that if I were to play around with all the settings I'd get it much better but that was my immediate first impression. Perhaps this indicates that the Blu-ray disc is a bargain right now, partcicularly for those who do not have a UHD Blu-ray setup yet.
Really enjoying your videos.
Still haven't watched my 4K Jaws or 2001, but they alone have to justify me getting a ten foot screen in my tiny living room
Funnily enough, we have a ten foot roll down screen in our living room but I've only ever used it for film. Must try the 4K discs of Jaws, 2001 and a few others on it sometime.
Glad you're enjoyed the film reviews. Always encouraging to know someone likes them.
John.
Love these reviews. And I can really tell you love cinema, and have a deep appreciation for it.
Thank you zero. And right now it's time to head into the cinema to run a movie. Marathon Man from 1976 on Blu-ray I think. John.
Just recently discovered your channel and i have been enjoying your videos and of course i have subscribed to your channel. Great review my friend.
And I need to have a good look at your channel Euphoria Pictures because I just had a quick peak and it looks right up my street!
@@moviecollector5920 your more than welcome my friend.
@@millerman9991 - Keith, you have another subscriber!
@@moviecollector5920 thank u so much i really appreciate it.
Bravo! I just screened my Feature Super 8 Jaws print and the print was struck on Fuji stock so it does have a slightly purple hue to it in some scenes. It would be nice to see the colors as they had been intended. Great review!
Come on fumeokid, spill the beans... is this feature print one of the few in-house Super 8 prints struck by Universal Studios for executives to watch in the home or is it some other source because I've never seen the feature on Super 8. The new 4K disc release is among the best I have seen so far with colours possibly even better than they were on original 35mm release back in 1975.
one of my favourite movies and I just recently picked this up on 4K, looking forward to checking it out
The best 35mm transfer I have seen so far. Scanned at 6K from what looks like very fine grain original negative stock. Other 4Ks do better this but that's because they've come from VistaVision, Technirama or 65mm/70mm. John.
Wow, great review. I look forward to more. I have a feeling you'll become an important and more unique voice among CZcams channels centred on films and film collecting! Glad I got in on the ground floor somewhat 👌😊
Very nice of you to say GuitarGuy. For only three videos so far I do seem to have generated a rather positive response so we'll see what happens. I hope you like the Terminator films because they're next when Terminator Dark Fate arrives from HMV. A good excuse to review the home movie history and I think I'll even include a bit of VHS with that one as that was where The Terminator found an audience originally.
@@moviecollector5920 Certainly looking forward to that one! Haven't seen every Terminator movie but I am a fan. And yes, I think just one unique and hi quality video can help break a channel through. You seem to have figured it out so congrats!
Wow, Jaws & Close Encounters of The Third Kind! I saw both of them in the theater when I was very young; 7 years old for Jaws and 10 for Close Encounters. Jaws really freaked me out. I learned how to swim in Lake Huron. After seeing Jaws, swimming was a difficult thing for me to do for quite a long time.
Recently I decided to spend a sizable amount of cash by purchasing a home theater system that I could easily manage myself. My viewing/sitting area is small. I had been a home theater enthusiast for a long while but over time I drifted away from it. My budget always kept my purchases limited to almost the bare minimums as well. I picked up my first Laser Disc Player (used) from a stereo & A/V shop in Ann Arbor, Michigan back in 1996. It was a pretty basic model: Sony MDP-455. It still works. I no longer use it but I do keep it visible in my entertainment center for the nostalgic effect. Financially I'm doing pretty well now. This is what I purchased: Samsung QN900A 8K 75" TV. Panasonic DP-UB9000 UHD 4K Player. LG SN11RG 7.1.4 Channel High Res Audio Soundbar System. I did a lot of homework before deciding to get these components. I'm not disappointed. I wanted to get the 85" model but it wouldn't fit where I needed it to.
It sounds like you've got a really nice system there Eric so well done. And if you haven't got the Jaws and Close Encounters 4K disc releases then rest assured that they're both pretty fabulous. I consider Jaws to be one of the two best video releases of a 35mm film, the other being Apocalypse Now but I suspect Jaws has the edge.
I still run LaserDisc occasionally but I need to get it properly set up again now we've moved. NTSC LaserDiscs were always the poor relation compared to PAL but there are some exceptions out there. Actually, the PAL LaserDisc of Jaws was pretty special now that I think about it.
John.
Great content, I really enjoyed the videos. Keep up the great work. 👍
Thank you Retro Force. I'm going to be busy with a disc release for a while but I want to get the 4K vs. 2K video sorted as soon as I'm able. Results have proved interesting.
Great review as always! I was lucky enough to see Jaws in a small movie theater back in 1976 at the tender age of 15. Not sure about the exact width, but as far as I'm informed, CinemaScope and most other similar 2x anamorphic formats (including the widely adopted Panavision 2x anamorphic) used the full height of the 35mm image, as opposed to the classic 1.37:1 Academy format, which had a thicker frame line. Splicing the negative of 35mm 2x anamorphic is considered a lost art by now due to the tiny frame line. That's why it's not 2.66:1 or wider, because the image is higher (not just narrower). I am by no means an expert, this is just what I was able to find out. Thanks for reading.
It's actually the introduction of stereo optical tracks that reduced the width of the 35mm image. Don't know when that was without looking it up but I know I said "Dolby Stereo" instead of "Stereo" in the CZcams video where I actually mention this. Well, we all make mistakes sometimes.
Jaws would be another interesting documentary featuring those who saw it on first release and the impression and impact it made on them. There's a television series waiting to be made here on that basis of historic films.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 thank you for the reply. Yes I know that the soundtracks also had an influence on the exact image format. I just wanted to point out that also the height was used to it's maximum on the 2x anamorphic 35mm format(s). Will look into that again, now I'm curious.
The print I saw back in 1976 was already slightly worn because it had been run in the big city first and then came to smaller towns. The colors also were a bit muddy like all 1970s prints, but I loved the look. The small movie theater still used carbon arc lamps. Easy to spot because the projectionist had to adjust the distance as the carbon sticks (can't remember the exact term) burned down. The image was very sharp and immersive. What I loved most was the awesome acting by the main trio.
Just upgraded this to 4K and was delivered today. What a pleasant surprise ,lenticular slip and nice booklet only $9. Also received Spartacus …your killing my retirement savings. Definitely a top ten!
I've spent so much on home movies over the past 40 or 50 years Gary that I never managed to get any retirements savings together in the first place!!!
Hi.
I stumbled upon your channel this weekend and have enjoyed your content and reviews.
I was wondering did you or do you currently work in the film biz?
Not really but I have been making motoring documentaries for the past 15 years for release on disc. Been quite successful at it.
John.
Cool!
Have you considered reviewing the 4K version of Coppola’s Bram Stoker’s Dracula?
I would be interested in your comments. The entire movie is an optical dupe, just before Kodak ungraded their intermediate stock.
Movie Collector, great job on the video and it’s very informative, I would like to see a review of top gun on this channel. It’s on 4K blu Ray by the way, you deserve a subscriber
Hmmm, you may have piqued my interest to see that one now William. Maybe I'll take a look at HMV's current price for it. Thank you for watching. By the way, I do have the PAL laser disc of Top Gun so a comparison may prove interesting as I recall the laser disc was very good for its time.
Thought I ought to let you know that I watched the 4K disc of Top Gun on Saturday evening William. It's even better than Jaws. Review video coming soon... well, that's the plan anyway.
Great review. I love the film/scope lesson. I remember having to change the lens on the projector depending on the aspect ratio of a movie when I worked as a protectionist. I have not seen the 4K of Jaws, but I agree with you, the blu-ray is one of the best I've seen for sure.
Jaws is one of the best cine to video transfers there is - so far. At the time of its release in 2020 it was astounding but there have been others almost as good, maybe just as good and possibly even better. But it is amazing that a film shot on 35mm in 1975 looks so good on home video today. Who ever would have thunk it? John.
@@moviecollector5920 I feel like desilu had great foresight to film their content because the remastered Star Trek and I Love Lucy look great! Older movies on 4K are some of my favorite. I just started watching The Next Generation again last night and those are some great looking blu-rays! Last year was big for 4K, here's hoping this year will be bigger!
@@MyFireVideos I need to get the Blu-rays of The Next Generation. I did see the first test disc that was released with some scenes still from the video tape edited masters as they hadn't found all the elements to the four episodes on the disc. The HD sections looked wonderful but too good for the quality of the make-up which meant you could see the joins where fake foreheads and things like that had been applied to the actores. The makers knew it was going to be vastly downscaled to video tape and never could have foreseen that anyone would go back to find all the original negative elements and start putting it all together from each piece of original camera negative. An amazing achievement.
We watched the Blu-ray of series 2 of Picard recently and that looks fabulous too. I'm not too sure of how good it is as a series but when anything Star Trek looks that good, who cares?!? John.
Just found your channel and subscribed ' very well explained look forward to more reviews be it blu Ray or 4k thank you.
Thank you Andrew. I'm a little tied up trying to get a disc released finished right now and I don't think many people into these things would quite believe the problems that come up at this stage of the process. Maybe I'll mention some of these problems in a future video because it might make some think more about complaining that an older soundtrack hasn't been re-worked into Dolby Atmos for example. I'm hoping to get back to doing more CZcams reviews very soon and was aiming for this week but alas that is currently looking doubtful. Soon though.
Thanks for the informative and entertaining review! I have subscribed.
Thank you MrBadbeagle. Jaws is one of the all-time greats and this video was only the third I did as Movie Collector. John.
Do you have a 4k TV or do you watch everything through a projector and screen?
I do have a 4K television but I don't watch films on television. The screen is actually the end wall of the house but a flat wall is the best solution for a screen. That and some brilliant white matt emulsion.
John.
Morning John. Have you noticed any problems with your disc being out of sync? I watched mine recently and noticed it was slightly out of sync.
That happened with early DVD players Steve so it could be a memory issue on certain 4K players dealing with some 4K discs. I didn't have the problem with My Fair Lady and haven't noticed it with anything else so far but inevitably now I've said that, it's bound to come and bite me in the backside! John.
Brilliant video. Lots of interesting information. Another great movie. Great review.
Thank you Stephen.
I finally purchased the 4K of this wonderful movie. And so I just rewatched this and I just have to say that I really did literally laugh out loud when you said, "you're gonna need a bigger screen".
I really must try to do something about my sense of humour Henri! John.
Hi just joined and my Jaws 4k just popped through the letterbox just now lol havent got a 4k t.v yet or played but will be updating soon . I saw Jaws as a 9 year old back in 1975 on Boxing Day when it opened with my mum who was lucky to get tickets from a work friend .we saw it at the Plaza 2 in the West End in London. a truly magical event for me and still my fave film. great review by the way.
My copy really did pop through the letterbox that morning as seen in the video but I will admit to placing it back in the box itself as it had dropped to the floor. Artistic licence! I was ten years old when I first saw Jaws and that was at the Reading ABC. A real treat at the time and I was so excited having read and loved the book. But I spent most of my life in central London and saw many films at the Plaza. Such a shame they demolished it for another supermarket. I believe there is still a cinema on the site but it ain't going to be the same. Similarly with the Leicester Square Theatre (Odeon West End). If these movie houses were live stage theatres the demolitions would never have been allowed.
@David Price Did it open on Boxing Day or around Boxing Day? What was the audience size and mood like? What was the biggest jump moment for the audience and what was the moment that really stood out to you? I wasn't born yet in 1975 so I'm always game for first-run audience reaction stories.
@@Theomite I'll be interested to see David's reply too. My recollection of the most effective jump scene was the night scene with Hooper at Ben Gardner's boat when the body rolled into view at just the right, shocking time. This was a little too frightening for British children at the time as was the film in general so it's interesting that the Super 8 'Scope trailer came with the certification warning on the end of it advising parents to be careful. I nearly showed that part within this video but it didn't really fit.
Ok Boxing Day 1975 in Londons West End where the heart of all cinemas are. Was very very lucky to get tickets as my moms work friends husband got them for us.The mood was excited and very nervous for me as a 9 year old and looking at the posters and lobby cards outside waiting to go onto the cinema or movie theater as you call them over there lol which i prefure to call them now. The people were lined so far around the block and out of site they seemed to go on for miles.Everyone wanted to see this movie .
Once inside there were Jaws swimming trunks , T.shirts and badges and bags and coffee mugs and programes to buy. We took our seats and waitied for lights to dimm.
The opening to that music was shitting myself even before the first scene started lol we was all fixed to the screen .The one scene that made the first 5 rows jump including me was the Ben Garder scene .never have i since seen rows of people jump out of their seats lol
And that was just one scene lol Jaws is my fave movie always will be and is so iconic and the poster is just pure iconic to.Mr Speilberg is just pure geinus and magical and i thank him for giving us one if not the best movie ever in history. Hope you enjoyed my report guys lol.
@@davidprice6994 Excellent! You've made me realize there's a documentary to be made featuring people such as yourself talking about their Jaws memories. That could be really interesting.
love that sound of your projector, reminds me of the the movie theatre memories with my dad back in the 80s, i still remember all the sites and smell's. My first movie theatre memory is Superman the movie , and Legend of the Lone Ranger i was 4 or 5, i remember sitting in the theatre in Toronto Canada , I remember also seeing the Elephant man. One of my fondest child hood movie memories was E.T. , Jaws would have been amazing i think it came out 4 months after i was born , i will get to watch it in 4k in a few weeks and have watched the 2k restoration and it looks great, i will do a double feature along with Alien 4k. P.S your theatre looks great , really fantastic. Thx again for sharing.
Nothing beats having the chattering of the projector behind you Mic. I've been playing at home cinemas for a long time now (more than 40 years and into home movies much longer than that) but we now have a new home cinema as we moved almost two years ago. I've been having some trouble getting all the automation sorted as the screen is much bigger than the home cinema in this video but I have a new solution ready to go into effect soon. It's just the bottom mask that's the stubborn sod who doesn't want to play like it used to.
By the way, I have a review of the 4K of The Elephant Man on here somewhere. As for the Jaws 4K, the colour is streets ahead of the Blu-ray even though they were both created from the same video master file. You should very much enjoy seeing it look like a film print when you finally get to see the 4K.
John.
awesome! ya your theatre looks amazing, and yes i look forward to my double feature at home , i will watch it on the 70 inch surround sound, nothing like your set up which i love by the way, but ya its not bad, Thx again John@@moviecollector5920
Just asking are there any films you have both a 35 mm print and the 4K disc to compare
No, because if I have the film on 35mm I'm never going to watch it on anything else. Also, have to be very careful about films on 35mm because up until 15 years or so back I did occaisionally hear of fellow collectors being raided and their 35mm films confiscated. All mine have come from overseas and I have receipts for them so I'd be okay but films that originated here were - and may still be - illegal. That was due to piracy possibilities so given the quality of sell-through video today I suppose it's those laws are either gone or forgotten now but I'm still careful.
@@moviecollector5920 fair enough it would be interesting but yeah 35mm is the real deal
Another one I have on Blu-ray, picked-up for $10 and still wrapped. Oh well... I'll sell it on ebay and get it on 4K. Thanks John.
The Blu-ray is exceptionally good though. Just the colour that's so much better on the 4K thanks to the HDR.
John.
Recently purchased this 4K release with the nice Japanese style Steelbook from HMV. Not as nice looking as the original Blu-ray Steelbook release though. where do you stand on box presentation? If the packaging for a release is nicer, for a slightly higher price, would you consider it? Thanks for your time.
There are a couple of films when I've liked the look of a special box and had to buy that version instead. J.J. Abrams Super 8 is one of them because that steelbook is beautiful but also Total Recall for the same reason. The Elephant Man was another I finally opted for the special box with the post cards and the little book. It does make the film more special somehow.
Well done for supporting HMV. I use them for everything possible simply because I appreciate they're our only remaining physical shop chain selling video and music.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks for your reply. Yes I agree about HMV online. Always looking on there for great blu-ray deals. Was tempted by the Labyrinth 4k 2 for 30. Do you plan to review that?
@@GrimWillows Labyrinth wouldn't be popular as a review video so probably won't be doing a review of that but if I ever get it (and it's been in HMV's 3 for £30 previously) then I would be able to include it in a round-up video sometime. John.
Jaws is my all time favourite Ever since I was privileged to see it on a big screen in my school in 1978 3 years after the initial release, I was 9 at the time and paid 30p for my ticket since that day Richard Dreyfuss was and is my favourite actor of all time... This was not a boat accident
Morning sin gin. I think we already corresponded about this but I just saw the 30p charge to see Jaws. Seems almost unbelievable today but it was so long ago now I suppose. John.
I saw Jaws last night at the Cinema and Wow! The Sound was amazing with its 7.1 Surround Sound Mix from the Blu Ray and the 4K Picture Quality looked amazing projected on a Big Screen. The best part was seeing it with my partner (who had never seen it before), who jumped in several moments, particularly the Head coming out of the boat and the Shark rearing its head out of the water when Chief Brody is chumming.
He really liked seeing it where it was meant to be seen in a Cinema, as did I.
What a thought - to be seeing Jaws for the first time in 2022. What an absolute treat! So pleased to know that you had a really good time.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 It was an absolute treat and a great way to spend the evening. I will definitely see it again on the Big Screen if it comes back to my hometown. I hope they re-release it when I have kids. An absolute classic that they will be raised on when I have them.
@@cooperbourke7717 Well, if you do ever have children don't take them swimming at Amity Beach!
@@moviecollector5920 The only swimming my kids will be doing is in a Pool on land, haha.
Just asking what do you think of his made for television film duel if you haven’t seen it it’s worth watching it’s a pretty good low budget thriller that feels like a professional mid budget film
I like Duel. It was even a good 400ft release on Super 8 but not one I ever actually purchased. Haven't actually seen the film in many years but one day I will see it again.
John.
John I could talk Jaws all day long with any fan of the movie. I first saw Jaws when it was shown on UK TV for the first time back in Oct 1981, I was 6 years old and could never thanks my parents enough for exposing me to the movie when they did. As you may recall the streets in the UK were deserted as over 20 million people tuned in to see what all the fuss was about. After almost Two weeks of sleepless nights, I wanted to see the movie again and got my chance the following year whilst on our Holiday to Blackpool, again it scared the hell out of me and I wouldn't walk on the beach lol. As it stands today I've rubbed shoulders with some amazing fans, met and had beers with various people who were involved with the movie Inc Joe Alves and made a friend in Jeff Kramer, watched the movie at the Playhouse on Martha's Vineyard were 80% of the audience were seeing the movie for the first time and that was electric, swam in the waters off the Vineyard where the beach scenes were shot and legitimately acquired production used items from the Murphy's (My friends) on Martha's Vineyard such as Barrels and large screen recognisable sections of the Orca II. All that aside, and I've said it many many times. The most important aspect off all this is having the ability to sit down and just watch the bloody movie in one form or another and as you've pointed out in another brilliant video on your channel here, watching Jaws on the 4K disc is just something else John. By the way, when you mentioned some extra tinkering with the audio I did notice another clang from the bell on the Orca whilst Brody's trapped in the cabin. Not a major thing but I did like it even though my heart will always be with the original Mono Soundtrack.
I put the 4K of Jaws on the other day to ascertain how good The Fifth Element is compared to it and for a 35mm transfer Jaws is in a league of its own. Shows the value of scanning at the equivalent 35mm resolution of 6K I think. I saw Jaws upon original release and again in the 1990s on a really knackered print owned by the British Film Institute and I don't recall either screening looking like this 4K disc. It really is special.
I know there would be a successful documentary to be made of fans of Jaws (and another documentary exactly the same for 2001) talking about their love of the film and their first experience. Maybe one day if there's a convention somewhere in the world and we all get together I would get the chance to make it. John.
Count me in sir, I'd love to be a part of that.
Jaws is one of my all time favourites and i've bought it 4 times, once on vhs and twice on dvd, but on blu ray it's brilliant because UNIVERSAL had it re-mastered and on the blu-ray it shows the picture before and after and you can tell if you own it on dvd and compare them both. I could have bought jaws, alien, prometheus and alien covenant for £10 each on 4k when bought with another movie at hmv last june but since i was happy with the picture on blu-ray i decided not to bother, great review.
The Blu-ray is excellent. I think it was a 6K scan and that could be the reason why the Blu-ray and 4K both look so exceptional. But the 4K is even better. I don't think it's got any added clarity to the image that I can perceive but the colour and density owing to the addition of HDR makes it look just like a good 35mm print. I don't know how many times I've bought Jaws over the years but with two different cuts on Super 8, a LaserDisc, two copies on DVD and then the 4K I have to conclude that I'm completely nuts! John.
Hi John just rewatched your take on this incredible film, Can I ask what part of the Documentary on the Dvd do they refer to getting the film ready for laserdiscs or changing the aspect ratio, I find it interesting and would like to watch it 👍🏻
Gawd Ron, this was May or June 2020 and I can't remember now. That whole documentary is only about ten minutes long and it's on CZcams, assuming I'm thinking about the right extra feature. It's about the restoration of the film when the original (faded) camera negative was scanned about 12 years or so ago. I need to watch it again myself soon. The film is a masterpiece and anything that details how it was made or cared for/restored is of such interest to me that I don't need much of an excuse to re-watch.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I knew it was a long shot lol, I'll have a scan through CZcams mate I only asked as I sat through the film this afternoon and then been watching the extras and Documentary, It's all fascinating and like yourself really appreciate all the effort they pop it in restoring it for us 👍🏻
@@RonD84 The restoration featurette is on the Blu-ray too Ron.
@@moviecollector5920 I found it on the 4k extras about 8 minutes long thanks 👍🏻
Jaws 4K plus BluRay is a fantastic watch, amazing how it’s been cleaned up.
It didn't look as good as this in cinemas. I saw the BFI print in the 1990s and it was completely knackered but even so, the image didn't look as good as the 4K disc and probably not the Blu-ray either. That's my recollection anyway. It was transferred at 6K and that could be why the end product is so good. Apocalypse Now is just as good and was transferred at 4K but that came from the interpositive and Jaws from the original negative but it all goes to prove that if the master is top-notch then a modern video transfer can be as good as a film.
John.
Great review, as always. I was really impressed with my JAWS disc. I saw it at the theatre back in the day, and I believe this 4K version looks better. Guessing our little local theatre had a cheap copy (if that was a thing). Did some places get worse generation copies than big city places? Last question, did your 4K come with a 3D lenticular slip cover. Mine has it, and it's pretty cool to look at. I'm also a 3D Bluray fan and the slip cover is really fun!
Morning Dan. Major city centre premiere cinemas got master prints which were struck directly from the camera negative whereas general release prints were struck from the internegative. With the film production process it always goes from negative to positive to negative and so on and so forth. This means the general release prints were three generations down rather than a master print (or 70mm blow-up) which was first generation down from the original. The Jaws disc you have was transferred, if I remember correctly) at 5.6K and this means just about everything from the original 35mm camera negative was captured to be shrunk down to 4K. It appears to make a difference and generally becoming accepted that 6K better represents the computer equivalent capability of full frame 35mm negative.
I don't have a lenticular cover on my 4K disc of Jaws. I do recall there were different packaging options in the USA compared to the UK so I suppose there were variations in different markets across the world.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks John. You are font of historic film knowledge. I enjoy and trust your reviews both for pre and sometimes post purchase satisfaction.
@@dansmith7194 I did see Jaws in 1975 but I was only ten years old and can't remember how good the print looked. I did see a knackered print in the mid 1990's and I don't think it was as good as the 4K disc even if I filter the knackeration out of my mind. That 4K truly is a remarkable achievement particularly when you consider how knackered the original camera negative is in places. I think it was about 13 years ago the 5.6K scan was done and that was initially for the Blu-ray release. It seems that Universal actually have (or had) people who understand film and particularly historically significant films such as Jaws.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 To be fair, I did not see JAWS as a first release. I saw it at a drive-in double feature of JAWS and JAWS 2. Probably saw it in 1978.
@@dansmith7194 That would most likely have been a 1975 general release print that was still in suitable condition for distribution in 1978 Dan.
Really great job. We are both British and about the same age, so I share many of your collecting memories. Thank you!
Well Robert, Phantasm is up next so I hope you're as nutty about that film as I am! You can expect quite a bit of Super 8 in the Phantasm retrospective when it's finally completed which may be later today. I think I'm even going to include my ancient Technics record deck with the original soundtrack album turning on it so possibly even more nostalgic than looking back at Jaws. What great fun this is turning out to be.
@@moviecollector5920 yup, love me some Phantasm. Can't wait. Really enjoyed your overview of your masking and curtains. Which 4k projector are you using?
@@Celestialrob It's the Optoma UHD 550X. Had it coming up to three years now and it's still surprising how good just about everything looks on it. The Phantasm retrospective has just been completed so I'm about to start it uploading. It's a longer video than the others but there are five films to cover and a few other titbits.
@@moviecollector5920 I know many people who love the Optomas. I have a JVC DLA NX5/RS1000
@@moviecollector5920 Psyched to see your upcoming videos
Oh man, I would love to hang out at your house for a few hours or days! I always wanted a sound super 8 and a 16mm with a few features. Someday I will! But until then, I really enjoy this video and others like it
Well Erik, I've been asked by several subscribers to do something on film gauges and how to get into it so I'll think about how to tackle that one shortly. There are still film dealers out there with plenty of Super 8 and 16mm films and equipment.
John.
Jaws is definitely one of the better 4k discs out there the restoration done on it is amazing,I bought the Blu-ray then uhd when that came out both beautiful transfers
Yes, the Blu-ray is fabulous enough but the HDR on the 4K has taken it to an even higher standard. Near 35mm quality on a home video disc. Amazing.
Great review and video. Would love to see a video tour of your set up, cinema room etc someday.
One day RJ Vids but I'll cover a few more interesting films before I get into that. Currently I'm planning a 2001 A Space Odyssey retrospective based on the 4K disc which has had rave reviews. People tell me it's the best but will I think so? Possibly not.
@@moviecollector5920 have it myself on 4K. I like the transfer but have to say it is not my favourite 4kuhd. Looking forward to your review.
Jaws - 1975 - creates the "blockbuster"
Review 4K - 2020 of this film abouta shark and the men that slay it, "Hey, check out the gold car". Just kidding😉. Great review and very informative. Glad I found your channel.
Thank you Michael. And I realized afterwards that the damned car is more bronze than gold!!!
John.
John you are the hero we needed. Love how passionate you are about Film.
This video was three years ago Chucky_boy but I remember a lot about it as it was only the third I made as Movie Collector and the disc arrived a day before it was due to be released. Hence, i got the video out on release date and it did rather well for a newbie. Unfortunately, Universal were upset with my anamorphic sequence and so they too ownership of this one. I did think about deleting it, modifying it and re-uploading it but decided that it was their property and even though I was advertising their product, it was up to them. I'm a little too careful now as a result of what happened with this video. It had been up for over a year at the time this all happened. John.
@@moviecollector5920 great video John. I watched this again last night. All the cast are great. Especially Quint who is tremendous. I read up on him. Robert Shaw. Turns out he died only three years after this movies release in Ireland. A great loss for sure. He played a good tough guy like Oliver Reed and Richard Harris who ironically all three had connections with Ireland. Reed is buried in Cork. Harris was from Limerick. Robert Shaw aka Quint died in Mayo.
@@Thecrows_eye Jaws is Steven Spielberg's best ever film and a masterpiece. The crowning glory of Jaws is the Robert Shaw (Qunit) monologue about his experience in the aftermath of the USS Indianapolis sinking following delivery of the Hiroshima bomb. A hauntingly, unforgettable scene and one of the best in film history perhaps.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hey John, great video. Just a quick question, does this UK release have that 44-page collectible book??
@@princesmith8008 No, but if you are after a book all about Jaws I saw one in Forbidden Planet earlier this year and I think it was the Jaws: Memories From Martha's Vineyard but I made the mistake of not purchasing a copy. Booklets in special home movie release packages usually work out to be quite expensive when sometimes a proper book can be had for less. John.
Is it worth to improve with a 4k blu ray player when I don, t have an HDR tv? ( although the tv is 4k ). ?
It probably isn't Miguel because our tiny home screens rarely show a perceptible difference in clarity between HD and UHD which means the significant factor is HDR. The solution would be to investigate the possibility of a 4K video projector with HDR and enter a whole new world that breaks away from a fixed box on the sideboard. But 4K projectors are still rather expensive. John.
@@moviecollector5920 thanks for your help.😄
Pretty neat that the super 8mm was in 2:35.1 given most home media into the 90s was 4:3
Super 8 was king of home cinema for longer than any other format over the past 50 years. Sadly not many people knew about its success and popularity during the late 80's, 90's and first half of the 2000's when nothing else came close. Video projection finally became viable around 2004/5 but still wasn't as good unless you paid big money. The Super 8 'Scope frame was 2.66:1 though so there was a bit of cropping. I didn't care much because it was the closest thing to cinema in the home that you could get. And being film meant you could get all the daysets, adverts, trailers and everything else required to replicate the local Odeon or ABC. Not something you can do easily with video to this day.
John.
I finally bought my 4K Copy of Jaws, I'm a bit late to the party, but boy oh boy, the film has never looked better. The Colours and Sharpness is even better than the Blu Ray, which was fantastic in and of itself, but this new 4K is the go to version of Jaws moving forward. 10/10 yet again Universal!!!
I think it's still the best 35mm transfer I've seen Cooper. The Blu-ray is actually from the same transfer so it's the colour that's made the difference with the later 4K disc. The only 4K releases I have that are better than Jaws were all shot on large format film so 35mm releases don't really stand a chance against them.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Definitely. I've recently been upgrading some of my favourite films from Blu Ray to 4K and a lot of them look excellent. Apocalypse Now, Blade Runner and The Lord Of The Rings are all exceptional on 4K.
Although I'm still keeping my Blu Ray copies of a lot of them for the Bonus Features and Sentimental reasons.
I'm quite the Film Collector myself, the most copies of a Film Franchise I have is Star Wars.
What are your thoughts on the Special Edition versions of the Original Trilogy?
@@cooperbourke7717 I think the re-hashes of Star Wars were great as a one-off but this constant meddling and not letting anyone see the films as they really were is ridiculous. Fortunately I have all three of the originals on Super 8 so I don't have to worry about it but it would be nice if youngsters could see how good the films really were.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I completely agree. The Original versions are so hard to come by in High Definition, but I thankfully got a Blu Ray copy of Harmy's Despecialized Edition of the Trilogy. All Three Films as they were originally released in the 70s and 80s, its truly a godsend. There's a Documentary on how this fan remastered the films to look and sound how they originally did, but I'm unsure if there are any physical copies anymore. Definitely worth getting if you're a fan of the Original Trilogy.
@@cooperbourke7717 A few people have told me about the fan transfers of the films for 4K release and I'm impressed that they've managed to do it without incurring the wrath of LucasFilm because years ago LucasFilm had a bit of a reputation for stamping down on anything. I think The Empire Strikes Back is currently being worked on and they're using a Technicolor 35mm print along with a few sections made up from other sources such as 16mm. I can't imagine ever watching these films on anything but film now but one day maybe. That 1977/78 release of Star Wars changed cinema so it's a real shame that it can't be readily seen. A piece of important cinematic history has been left to almost disappear.
John.
i was lucky enough to bag me one of the limited 4k 45 year anniversary lenticular steelbook collectors edition which i was super excited about :D
Send it through Adam!!!
@@moviecollector5920 👊🤣
Hi John, having a problem with my 4K player, haven't had a problem loading 4K UHD disc's before but all of a sudden my Panasonic player has stopped loading certain disc's, specially Universal UHD disc's such as Jaws and some other's, after trying to load certain disc's it says disc incompatible, doesn't do it on all Universal 4K disc's and other disc's such as Warner Bros. all play fine, any idea what could be causing this issue? James
What an odd problem so suddenly occur James. If it were all discs then it would suggest a laser fault or blockage due to fogging or dirt. I suppose a lens cleaner is the first thing to try anyway but other than that, it's a complete mystery. i'm hazarding an educated guess that you've unplugged it and given it a minute or two before powering up again. I also wonder if there's been a firmware update that's messed things up. If it hasn't had a firmware update then perhaps that's worth a try but it will probably tell you it's already on the latest firmware. In the worst case scenario, at least 4K players aren't as expensive as they once were.
John.
You need to update the players firmware
Another great review :) Jaws is a fantastic movie
We're in agreement again mirvmn2. One of the best films of all time in my opinion.
John.
Great review. I only wish that you went into more detail on the remastered soundtrack. Which is, IMO, a major disappointment. I wouldn't label it as a remastering, it's more of a reworking. There are several instances throughout the film of missing sound effects or manipulation of sound effects that were not on the original master. Even the so-called original mono soundtrack included on the disc sounds muffled and tampered with. These sound engineers that work on "remasterings" should leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
That is really interesting information Crow. I know the film well and love it but I clearly don't know the soundtrack as well as yourself. If you and I had have had this discussion before I turned the camera on I certainly would have included what you said so maybe I'll be able to mention what you've told me in a future video. I'm hoping to start preparing one today but I am still tied up with a disc release so it will probably take a few days before I can finally get the camera work done and start editing. Thank you very much for such a great comment which is really appreciated from a fellow Jaws enthusiast.
By the way, I watched a Norwegian film called 'Kon-Tiki' on Saturday night which is a very good film and has some great shark sequences in it. If you haven't seen that one I recommend it. Two versions of the film are on the Blu-ray because they shot it in English and Norwegian. That in itself is rather special.
I gonna need a bigger 4K collection! Thanx!
Very good! And a bigger screen too!
I often wondered why they never fixed the really bad and odd cut when Hooper's holding the girls arm at the autopsy. It wasn;t explained in the restoration doc on the blu-ray.
I can't actually remember it David other than the arm was cut off just below the elbow! John.
Is it not in its original aspect ratio?
Yes, it is. Jaws was shot in Panavision (i.e. CinemaScope 2x squeeze) so approximately 2.35:1 upon projection.
Dear Movie Collector .I've been told by an friend that there are several websites about the missing scene .Just type in JAWS THIS WHAT HAPPENS.Quite a few people can remember something about it.And from my friend told me .The TV premier was about now 1981& it was a Thursday night .HOLLOWEEN had it's TV premier around the same time because if your mum -or dad let you stay up to watch it if you were lucky enough .It was all we talked about in school the next day .Because I had swimming last lesson on a Friday
It might have been an outtake inserted to replace a more gory shot as I mentioned or it might have been a re-shoot for television which is what was done for Halloween. The Halloween re-shoot was quite a major production though so more likely just the use of an outtake in Jaws. John.
My dad's favorite movie, and one of mine. Such a classic adventure film. Robert Shaw is so great in this, that speech just captures one's attention and is so mesmerizing, what an actor!
Yes, that Indianapolis speech is the best scene of the whole classic, brilliant film. John.
Can you please tell me what model of Panasonic 4K player you have I myself have the Panasonic UB820 which I watch on my Panasonic FZ952 55 inch version.
It's over three years old now - a UB 400 or something similar. I actually have another one which is almost the same but didn't have an optical out on it so no use to man nor beast! Slight exaggeration there perhaps.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah I like my Panasonic, the UB900 is a bit expensive,I used to have several Super VHS recorders including the Mitsubishi M1000 and several Panasonic and JVC.
@@paulallenMacca Mitsubishi produced some of the best VHS recorders. Their still frame, nudge forward one frame at a time facility was the best I ever saw.
I'd like to get a 4K player with all the old connections on that back of it and not the minimalist rubbish that is all I've seen up to now. For me these disc players are hifi separates and they should be equipped like it even if most people would never connect them up with anything but an idiot proof HDMI.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah,does your current 4K player have Component on the back.
@@paulallenMacca Just optical but it was a special deal at Richer Sounds at the time and that was why I snapped it up. They were surprised when I pointed out to them it had an optical out on it for the money back then. I think they'd made a mistake really.
John, do you have any interest in seeing Ian Shaw's play "The Shark is Broken" and reviewing it here on your channel? I know what a huge JAWS fan you are, and as one myself, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. I'm in the states, so God knows if and when I'll ever be able to see it.
I've never even heard of it Bill. I have to say though that I've never much cared for theatre. I've seen quite a few plays and shows but find I'm looking at my watch most of the time except for one occasion when I went to see Frank Finlay and David Essex in a play called 'Mutiny' in about 1986 or so. That was an amazing sight to see a tall ship materialize out of the stage and behave just like it was in a major storm.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 it might be a fun night out. If anything just to see Robert Shaw's son embody his Dad on stage. It looks like it would be a blast for JAWS fans.
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@@billg3356 That does indeed look right up my street Bill. I've actually forwarded the link onto my father as if it's on in the West End it's the sort of thing he'd like too. He's getting on a bit now and on the 'at risk' list so he probably can't risk sitting in a theatre just yet but maybe we'll get through this pesky virus soon and he can get along. John.
Another great review John, finally got Jaws on 4K, just arrived in the post, thought I'd check out your review before watching it, out of all the film's, this film sticks with me, it made me love movie's, I vividly remember watching it on TV at my aunties, I'd say 1981, I'd have been 7 year's old, it frightened me but I couldn't stop watching it, fantastic film making, had it on VHS, DVD, blu-ray over the year's so I'm pleased to own it on this format.
You mean you never had a copy on Super 8 James? I'm shocked! And what about LaserDisc?!? It is a great film and possibly one of the all-time best. It's the relationship between the three main characters that makes it and most notably that pause during the evening on the boat when they're drinking an chatting. What a film.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 On watching it now, you were right, the picture quality is amazing, that's my favourite part, the Indianapolis speech, still makes me laugh when Hooper crushes the plastic cup, also picked up Bram Stoker's Dracula, it's going on straight after Jaws.
@@moviecollector5920 Never owned a Super 8 or LaserDisc John 😞
@@jamessiddle7389 I think the first half of Bram Stoker's Dracula is better than the second half. Let me know what you think. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I will John, first saw it on the big screen in '93 then on VHS, been such a long time, I'm guaranteed to enjoy it, Gary Oldman is a phenomenal actor.
great review !
Thank you Jacob. John.
I think this 4K is best watched in Dolby Vision, I found the HDR10 version a bit too dark with lots of lost detail in the dark scenes. If your system won’t do Dolby Vision be sure to try the BluRay, in some ways it’s better than HDR10.
Every system is different Jim and it looks fabulous on mine in HDR. I don't think I've tried it on my television but even if it does look as good on that it won't have the same impact as projection. I actually feel the need to run Jaws again after spending time with Apocalypse Now and doing a bit of a comparison. I think Apocalypse Now looks better but John Perry at Mondo Chelloveck Movies thinks Jaws has the edge over all and he may be right. John.
Excellent video.
Thank you popey129. John.
I had to watch this twice such a great review.
Thank you Tom. That was an exciting day when the 4K disc arrived, just as I was revising with the Super 8 copies. John.
The image quality of my BR is sublime - but is it worth an upgrade?
If you like the film as much as I do then yes, it's worth splashing out ten or fifteen pounds on the 4K disc. The colour and density are better but the Blu-ray is fabulous in the first place. If you have a video projector then it's even more worthwhile as the 4K looks more like a film print owing to the HDR - which is what HDR was designed for. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks John. And great video as always!
Good review as always, got my 4K copy of jaws, you saying about duplicating copies, I'm guilty there I have got a DVD.blu-ray and 4K of a few films. Blade runner for example I have a DVD, DVD box set, blu-ray and the 4K.
I think Blade Runner is a special case Stephen but you still need to track down a 35mm copy!
@@moviecollector5920 that would be interesting to find one of those
The blade runner DVD box set come in a tin with lot's of extras & about 6 disc's.
This movie never gets boring
It's livened up swimming in the sea ever since. That music just plays in my mind whenever I'm taking a dip.
John.
The Blu Ray looks incredible. The 4k must be awesome! I just need a 4k display worthy of the 4k image.
I think the only way to see this film is projected onto the biggest wall space or screen possible. The 4K is that good that it can handle it so start saving!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Need a 90ft IMAX projector and screen John🤣 Cheers sir.
@@cp070476 I agree! I hope to be able to video one of those engineering marvels actually projecting one day and anyone who has never seen one will be astounded by the speed that the enormous film rushes through the projector. It's a wonder the projector doesn't simply explode.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Saw a vid on youtube where they replaced the 90ft screen. 800kg? The projector is monstrous.
@@cp070476 I've seen that video too. Imagine how much the replacement screen cost. The outlay cinemas have to make at times is enormous so it's amazing any of them manage to survive really. John.
Your gonna need a bigger screen! That just made my Day!
USED THE CHANNEL AHHH!
I'm trying to think of another Jaws-ism to reply to these comments chaps but I can think of anything. If any of you do get a bigger screen though makes sure you project onto "the whole damned thing!" John.
My dad had to pay an adult admission price, simply for me to view it at our local cinema.
Definitely in my top 10..
It certainly left its mark on bathers during the summer months.
Given Ireland is not known for its shark population.
We had a bloody great Basking Shark go up the side of the pier in Looe a couple of years ago. It was a twenty footer, but some said twenty five! I've not been in the sea since seeing Jaws in 1975. I'm still just about brave enough to get in a bath though.
@@moviecollector5920
Basking shark is a plankton eater, and they are quite a sizeable fish.
That would keep anyone out of the water, who was not in the know, safe guard the duckie during bath time, that will be first to go sir..LOL.
My favorite movie ever. I just ordered a 4k player and the limited edition steel book.
You'll have to get an Elmo Super 8 projector next Paul. I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of your new 4K venture. Jaws is among the best of all the discs released so far so it's a good place to start.
Wow great channel. Just subscribed.
And very nice to have you here with me Bilko. Thank you for subscribing.
John.
Great and internet review, you seem like a genuine enthusiast and for that reason I subscribe and look forward to more videos.
Jaws 4K also dropped through my letterbox on Monday, I haven’t watched it yet but I have checked it out and it looks fantastic.
And yes, I agree that the Blu-ray was one of if not the best on the format!
@@TomGur147 Thank you for that. Not sure if I'm an enthusiast or a complete nutter but maybe somewhere in between. I hope to be able to bring some informed content to future reviews and perhaps show some film projectors of various gauges in action to illustrate some of the points made. Video projection has come a long way in a very short space of time but there's not an awful lot that I can shoot around a video projector because there are no moving parts and therefore not quite so interesting to put on screen. Film projectors for that reason are far more interesting to look at and already have a certain nostalgia. And I've got a lot of film projectors!
John.
Eagerly waiting your next installment
I'm compiling it right now Bilko - Terminator Dark Fate and all the other Terminator movies to bring us up to date. Good fun looking back at them all and the previous home movie editions that were available. Might actually get it uploaded this evening.
@@moviecollector5920 fantastic. Great movies. Look forward to it .
Good job!
Thanks again SpockBoy.
the whole notion of TELLING the monsters story , instead of just SHOWING it to the viewer that is an age old trope.
totally working in Spielberg's favor, apparently the shark was very rough, and cumbersome .. however, what the audience IMAGINED was much scarier than any prop
The adversity Spielberg faced with the uncooperative shark was the saviour of the film. Less is more is a format that works in monster movies and this achieved it in spades. Alien did the same thing just four years later.
John.
But the Blu Ray included in the 4K package ……… is that the same as the 2012 Blu Ray ? Or is it a new Blu Ray ?
This is three years ago now but I'm pretty sure it's the old Blu-ray. It was created from the same 5.6K master as the 4K disc.
@@moviecollector5920Thanks mate 👍 I ended up getting it in 4K and I was amazed how good it was
My question is, and you might not know an answer, but I wanted to ask anyway: why can't Blu-rays do the same job as a 4K UHD disc? I have looked and can only find a few definitions, but no explanation as to how these discs are made and how they work.
I've been wondering the same thing. In fact, I spoke to Keith at Euphoria Pictures (his CZcams channel is worth looking for as he has one of the most amazing collections I know) and we both think there would be little point in 4K if Blu-ray came with HDR. But maybe once I've got a massive house with a 20 foot cinema screen I'll change my mind!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Back when Blu-rays first came out, I thought to myself, "Why can't they just make DVDs better? It has something to do with a blue laser being able to read tinier dots better than the red kind, I guess. If DVD players have to have larger targets, wouldn't that make the quality better when DVDs are played on a Blu-ray player than a Blu-ray? I guess they are supposed to look better being up scaled, but not as good as a Blu-ray. As you can see, I have so many questions, and probably many more misunderstandings.
There are so many questions that I haven't seen hardly anyone ask. And yes, if Blu-rays were given HDR treatment, if they could be given the treatment (I don't know if it's possible or not), 4Ks wouldn't need to exist. In reality, 4Ks aren't truly 4K, because they decided to cheat instead of following the Blu-ray format with 1080p being translated from the pixels going up the screen, these 4Ks are counted going across the screen, so these tvs are basically just a little above 2K, if you're into technical specs. So, it's all a lot of guess work.
Technically it wouldn't be a problem to fit an HDR picture and the latest sound formats onto a BD but then it wouldn't be a legal BD anymore. It's a standard you can't change as all old BD players couldn't play the new discs. On BD you even cannot store 1080p full HD with 25 or 29,97 frames per second, only 24 fps. The workaround is to use 50 or 59,94 fields. So there won't be HDR on BDs.
@@axelvetter Thank you for the explanation!
I agree, that the visuals in Close Encounters are stunning, but they dropped the soap by not releasing it with a Dolby Atmos track! This one is a potential candidate, and is yearning for an upgrade!
The sound is very good all the same Charles. Maybe one day they'll play with the sound again though.
John.
Controversial view but some of the lighting in interior scenes has always looked a little TV movie to my eye.
You may be right there. It's possible we're all so into the film that we can't see any minor inadequacies... including the shark!
Any theories on how Spielberg got a PG rating for a movie where a man is graphically bitten in half and spitting up blood? It really didn't take much to get an R rating when it came to violence and gore in 1975. Did Spielberg have an uncle at the MPAA? That would also explain the PG rating for Raiders of the Lost Ark where people's heads literally explode on camera. Scanners certainly didn't get a pass on that type of imagery.
I can tell you exactly how an 'A' certificate was achieved because the original trailer tells us at the end of it in a rolling caption. I nearly showed it via my original Super 8 'Scope trailer in this video but didn't want to risk upsetting Universal. As it happens, they got upset with my demonstration of the 'Scope process and claimed this video for their own on that basis. Oh well, lesson learned. Anyway, Jaws was given an 'A' certificate but parents were advised that some scenes may be upsetting for younger members of the audience. Something also about the interest in the film and the book perhaps. If I run the trailer or find the original shots I took for this video I'll write it all down and stick it up here. The basic summary is that the BBFC knew it should be a AA but due to the interest in the film they had given it an A certificate to give younger people the chance to see the film of the book so many had read and loved. I was one of them.
John.
I recently attended an open air projection screening of Jaws in a nearby village. It was after dark and positioned at the bottom of a small hill to allow good viewing from any blanket or camping chair. Around 150 attended and the weather was great. My teenage daughter really enjoyed the ambience of the event and the 'retro' look of the projection. I, on the other hard, was mortified by the cropped to roughly 1.85:1 presentation. I politely emailed the organisers the next day, asking for clarification as to whether they were aware or if it was intentional? The reply was that it was intentional to fill the projection screen. Many scenes had characters cut in half or completely cropped out. Knowing how scenes should look, wonderful compositions were completely lost. like a gallery cropping a painting to fit a frame. Would this have bothered you? or would you have been able to look past it? as probably most of the viewers wouldn't have even realised? Thanks.
That would have certainly been obvious with Jaws because the scene with the crushing drink can by Quint and then the crushing plastic cup by Hooper has them both at the edges of the screen and cropping to 1.85:1 would mean you'd just about see their noses. It's ridiculous to crop a film but most people simply don't understand film and therefore don't care. To do it to a film like Jaws should be a criminal offence! John.
@@moviecollector5920 phem, I though I might be over reacting. For a group that supposedly love film, they should be investigated for crimes against cinema haha.
@@GrimWillows If I were in charge of policing they'd be publicly flogged!
Got this one last week. Fantastic picture but personally I found the dialogue to be a little muddy and on some occasions, quite disappointing. As such, I traded it in for The Thing.
That seems a little odd Tom but all our systems are different and even though it sounds fabulous just about everywhere it's been reported it seems there might be one or two with some sort of incompatibility. One of the greatest 4K disc releases so far and probably the best of the 35mm transfers. The Thing is pretty good though.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah. I read that the audio was very good. Don't know if I need a calibrator to look at my setup as I've noticed some muddy dialogue on a few discs. It's a pretty good system to be fair. cost me several thousands. Saying that, I wouldn't want it to be detrimental to the sound I have because for 90% of my discs the sound is unrivalled for anything I've ever heard. It blows peoples minds when they hear it too. The issue is rather odd.
@@hazchem1 I had occasional muddy dialogue for the review I did of Batman V Superman a few days ago so it's not entirely unheard of but not something I had with Jaws. It's a couple of years since I watched Jaws for this review video but I can't recall any issues with the sound at all. Having said that, Jaws was originally mono sound so it's possible that if that track is available on the disc it may sound superior to the multi-channel remix. I can't recall which film it was recently but whatever it was the digital multi-channel remix had set the dialogue too low and we therefore switched to the original Dolby Stereo four channel sound which was much better. Comments for that review confirmed the same thing but I don't suppose anyone else would have given it a try if I hadn't have said. I'm increasingly finding examples of the original soundtrack being better than later remixes so just maybe Jaws is another one.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thankyou for your replies and advice. I'm a bit of a home cinema enthusiast myself. I've been buying and upgrading for nearly 18 years, so it's reassuring to read that you've found some discs that indeed have these issues. It is perhaps just down to different types of hardware and the mix, but it is frustrating when settling down to a movie that the audio just isn't as good as expected. I watched the original Top Gun a few weeks ago and the audio was unbelievable. I was surprised to find at the local CEX that so many copies had been traded in. I'll be watching this again for sure simply because of the sound immersion. Thanks again for the info.
Great transfer, however i sometimes notice some blurry scenes, and a lot of grain.
Hardly any grain on my system. Try turning your brightness down to look more like a film print. Any blurry scenes will have been how it was filmed on the day so there's nothing that can be done about it. This was how films were back then as there wasn't a video camera looking down the viewfinder for monitoring and immediate replay.
@@moviecollector5920 What is meant with softness in the film ?
@@fmulder1989 Slightly out of focus.
@@moviecollector5920 what would be a good example in the picture you'd think .
@@fmulder1989 Daylight scenes are going to be the best but it all looks exceptional. Early scenes around the Amity village or out on the Orca hunting the shark. Any noticeable grain is down to having picture brightness too high or digital sharpening applied. Any digital sharpen should always be off or minimized as low as possible because it just messes up the image quality.