Class Balance State & Tier List BEST BUILDS in Season 5 Diablo 4

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Komentáře • 433

  • @Rob2628
    @Rob2628  Před 23 dny +11

    Check out INTOTHEAM: intotheam.com/Rob2628
    Please keep mind that this is just a first Tier List draft after playing the PTR. There is one more final patch coming! Hope this helps to give an overview of the current Power level of Builds!
    Tier List Draft: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bN8C_Fe9nrWv__jUc_Vdbl220g4NM0mlux-ga_s_-5s/edit?gid=1254546664#gid=1254546664
    Timestamps
    00:00 Tier List Explanation & PTR
    02:46 Sorcerer
    05:41 Necromancer
    09:39 Druid
    12:51 Rogue
    16:46 Barbarian
    25:27 Final Thoughts

    • @stt0mat0
      @stt0mat0 Před 23 dny

      rob, i havent been playing after S1 and will be playing for S5, as Druid. however i have a question for the AK47 build: Changeling aspect requires the Druid to be in bear form, but casting Poison Creeper turns me into human form. does that mean i am suppose to immediately cast a landslide each time after i casted Creeper, to quickly back into bear form for the Changeling to take effect for the Landslide that pop from the Subterranean aspect?

    • @davidsaler5359
      @davidsaler5359 Před 23 dny

      I wish they would lose the dust devils completely. It’s rather trashy. It’s annoying. Barbarian isn’t a sorcerer.

    • @jornwinter2579
      @jornwinter2579 Před 23 dny

      I'm asking myself why barb should not be nerfed we had a crarzy powercreep already and we go down the d3 game development way that is imo very very very very Bad!

    • @jadonarey9019
      @jadonarey9019 Před 23 dny

      @@Rob2628 pointless fucking video. Literally almost all of this is going to and will change. Why even bother making this when it will be COMPLETELY outdated within a week and EVERYONE knows fixes and changes are coming.
      Half of these are based off builds using bugged interactions or items and will never make it to the actual game. FFS man come up with better content

    • @mathewsmith8073
      @mathewsmith8073 Před 7 dny

      D4 BAD

  • @txhookey5608
    @txhookey5608 Před 23 dny +206

    The PTR was so bad it deflated Rob's hair.

    • @boriskohlschreiber25
      @boriskohlschreiber25 Před 23 dny +4

      Alter... diese Frisur killt Bosse 😂

    • @djnoez83
      @djnoez83 Před 23 dny

      Ded lmfao

    • @will.42069
      @will.42069 Před 23 dny

      I wondered if anyone would bring up robs hair 🤣

    • @breazybear
      @breazybear Před 23 dny +2

      Still looks like Beavis

    • @laars0001
      @laars0001 Před 23 dny

      I see it shimmering, maybe it is new AI hair? 🤔

  • @kapiteinlulhaas7612
    @kapiteinlulhaas7612 Před 23 dny +26

    Blizzard noticed barb had only 6 builds that could output billions of damage so they buffed barb and nerfed sorc.

    • @overpowerrd
      @overpowerrd Před 23 dny +4

      barb good = buff barb
      barb bad = buff barb
      sorc good = nerf sorc + buff barb
      sorc bad = nerf sorc + buff barb

    • @whatthefok2792
      @whatthefok2792 Před 5 dny

      ​@@overpowerrdTrue ! I play only sorcerer and im sick... Stop d4

  • @Hotwhiskey1
    @Hotwhiskey1 Před 23 dny +25

    I hear they are changing Diablo 4 name to Barbarian 4

  • @JakMiof
    @JakMiof Před 22 dny +15

    I like how he says during rogue that because the rogue hit for 22 billion it has to be a bug, but then flay barb comes up hits for 500 billion and he says it's no bug interaction at all

    • @gabrieleburger467
      @gabrieleburger467 Před 18 dny +2

      The Robbarblo must think he's a supreme ruler lol I really don't understand why ppl hype him so much. I'm probably the only one has to turn off the sound, sorry he is a no go lol

  • @overpowerrd
    @overpowerrd Před 23 dny +174

    barb good = buff barb
    barb bad = buff barb
    sorc good = nerf sorc + buff barb
    sorc bad = nerf sorc + buff barb

    • @chaddrusso8850
      @chaddrusso8850 Před 23 dny +3

      It was the opposite back in season 0-1 the meme was “nerf Barb” let us bask in the sunlight 😂

    • @Thorgrimn
      @Thorgrimn Před 23 dny +1

      This is the way

    • @Skydogg5555
      @Skydogg5555 Před 23 dny +4

      i love that this meme has done a 180 since the game came out, its hilarious how people just latch onto anything and everything they can lmfao

    • @tomtomkowski7653
      @tomtomkowski7653 Před 22 dny

      Sorc buff = every nearby Barb does 200% more damage.

    • @samtarioss
      @samtarioss Před 22 dny

      @@chaddrusso8850 ye ofc nerf barb, in season 0 and 1 even after nerf, barb was strongest and it never was different, barb is always strongest, cause they fkd up the core of the class

  • @Complication84
    @Complication84 Před 22 dny +13

    "We want to bring all the other classes up to the Barbarian level of power without nerfing the Barb. So we are going to nerf the shit out of every class so everyone plays Barb." - D4 derp devs

  • @tsidilin
    @tsidilin Před 23 dny +99

    Rogue doing 22bil damage - “Obvious a bug”
    Barb doing half of trillion - “No bug”

    • @opiumdreamin
      @opiumdreamin Před 23 dny +4

      sorcerer too HAHAHAHAHA

    • @opiumdreamin
      @opiumdreamin Před 23 dny

      blizzard love barb for sure

    • @FocusplusPassion
      @FocusplusPassion Před 23 dny

      Yeah that why the nane.......Bbablo 4.

    • @Rob2628
      @Rob2628  Před 23 dny +28

      It may sound ridiculous but it is what it is. You can reasonable calculate how you reach that damage on a Barb but on most other classes it is just some infinite stacking bug. Obv this needs to change flay is crazy

    • @tsidilin
      @tsidilin Před 23 dny +4

      @@Rob2628 Do you really think that buff all classes to half trillion damage is a good idea? Game will feel like uses The Death Star to kill a fly

  • @itschuckee6778
    @itschuckee6778 Před 23 dny +82

    PTR was bugged so blizzard nerfed Rob's hair

  • @MrHellweasel
    @MrHellweasel Před 23 dny +32

    I would love to play Sorc but cannot. Sorry but I just do not want to manage 5 different cooldowns at all times. It is not fun. The team responsible for this class needs to hand it off to someone else. The class has been struggling since release if we do not count the few times that it was "overperforming" thanks to bugs.

    • @spaghetti0948
      @spaghetti0948 Před 23 dny +1

      The only time it didn’t suffer was season 2 with ball lightning

    • @MrHellweasel
      @MrHellweasel Před 23 dny +3

      @@spaghetti0948 Yeah but that was when ball lightning was bugged and ticked way more than intended :)

    • @spaghetti0948
      @spaghetti0948 Před 23 dny +1

      @@MrHellweasel Yeah true

    • @nade5610
      @nade5610 Před 23 dny +3

      overperforming? even tho it was bugged crazy barb was better with the bonk build instakilling everything in the game.

    • @kuja5809
      @kuja5809 Před 23 dny

      ​@MrHellweasel it was perfectly fine to me. They should have kept it and buff other skills for sorceress to match with ball lightning. All builds should be end game viable. Blizzard doesn't know wtf they are doing

  • @jetman8856
    @jetman8856 Před 23 dny +22

    D4 devs don't have the analytical and mathematical skills to balance classes.

    • @CurtisD1986
      @CurtisD1986 Před 23 dny +2

      That's clear by their math skill Raxx pointed out during I think pre season.

    • @tomtomkowski7653
      @tomtomkowski7653 Před 22 dny +1

      Because they hire people based on DEI and not skills required for the job.
      Have you seen a video of how they play their own game? No wonder this game is pure garbage in terms of class balance.

    • @HeathenTrucker
      @HeathenTrucker Před 21 dnem

      I swear!!

    • @SG-uy3iz
      @SG-uy3iz Před 20 dny +1

      @@tomtomkowski7653 DEI makes for great game dev, just like it's going to make for great airline pilots!

    • @sharptongue2972
      @sharptongue2972 Před 19 dny

      Legit think devs have double digit IQ. They have the damage buckets and they just need to figure out what the numbers are when multiplied across buckets. It's not even calculus or linear algebra, and they can't figure this shit out. Subhumans, imo.

  • @Nemesis0405
    @Nemesis0405 Před 23 dny +10

    No class should even be close to hitting for billions of damage. Tormented bosses were supposed to be a challange and we are bonking them for half their health bar per hit. The current balance is a complete dumpster fire.

    • @amberow9892
      @amberow9892 Před 23 dny

      Always has been

    • @flowqi212
      @flowqi212 Před 22 dny

      I hate it. I'm playing Dust Devil without bleeds right now in S4 and I think this could be a healthy baseline for builds, but everything Rob showed here has 10-1000 times more damage 🤢

  • @tomtomkowski7653
    @tomtomkowski7653 Před 22 dny +8

    Class balance - LOL. Teleport nerfed, focus nerfed, flame shield nerfed, ice armor nerfed, Debilitatin Roar nerfed, Shadowblight nerfed, Victimize nerfed, etc
    Meanwhile, Barb holding one button to auto-attack with Bash or WW... Yeah, this game is perfectly (un)balanced. LMAO.
    They will nerf everything to the ground outside the Gushing Wounds. And Barb will get a 50% Polearms buff, longer bleed, Shard of Verathiel, and Perma Berserking Aspect.
    Step 1: Druid, Necro, and Sorc should be able to wear 2H + 2x1H like Rogue to get two more Aspects, two more Gems, two more offensive stats, and four more Tempers.

    • @kennyhouser3467
      @kennyhouser3467 Před 20 dny

      No, no, no! Stop asking for classes to carry more weapons. It is unnecessary. Just raise class specific values to compensate for the lack of extra weapons. This crying for weapon homogenization is as bad creatively speaking as the Bluzzard team already is...

    • @dogs-game-too
      @dogs-game-too Před 19 dny

      Bash got a 80% nerf and sucks without totally rebuilding the gear, only available in s5. My s4 barb is officially a paperweight.

    • @tomtomkowski7653
      @tomtomkowski7653 Před 19 dny

      @@dogs-game-too Your Bash will be OK with new items and will do even more damage than in s4 as it was already tested. Even without these buffs Bash after 80% nerf will do more dmg than any Druid, or Sorc build.

  • @lukevega77
    @lukevega77 Před 23 dny +8

    16:55 I agree with what you said the developers have said, but saying and doing are two different things. They've AGAIN nerfed Sorc and Necro with unnecessary changes.

  • @GilgameshGDLK
    @GilgameshGDLK Před 23 dny +43

    I can't wait to see the Devs nerf Sorc again. Barb still needs more buffs.

    • @teapea8184
      @teapea8184 Před 23 dny +6

      Sorc did biggest damage on the PTR so obviously it needs a nerf! And barb didn't so it needs a buff by 10-50x damage.

    • @Skydogg5555
      @Skydogg5555 Před 23 dny

      i love that depending on which class is on the chopping block, the meme changes. like how it was everyone memeing about nerf barb when it was obliterated by blizz in season 0-1.

    • @dangerfly
      @dangerfly Před 23 dny

      Sorcs' cosmetics are bad and don't sell and barbs' are the opposite. Barb buffs = more money.

  • @LordHazanko666
    @LordHazanko666 Před 23 dny +5

    We need druid shred buffs, sorc everything buffs, and necro blood buffs.

  • @Dzagiel77
    @Dzagiel77 Před 23 dny +10

    i want an option to exclude barbarians from my gameplay. I do not believe blizz is able to balance it anyway.

  • @raylee7951
    @raylee7951 Před 23 dny +3

    I'm just a casual gamer so I don't have as much in depth experience on class mechanics. But after a year of playing D4 and trying a different class every season, I think Barb & Rogue have a massive advantage by being able to equip more than 2 weapons. With the S4 itemization changes this only amplified their powers.
    Although Druids, Necros and Sorcs were given added class mechnics like spirit boons, book of the dead and enchantments. Those unfortunately do not scale and are insufficient in closing the power gap that an extra weapon slot or two could provide.
    I think it's going to take a combination of reworking those class mechanics to be 5x more and also removing caps on paragon nodes and key passives for Druids, Necros and Sorcs to be brought up to Barb and Rogue power levels.

  • @The43089
    @The43089 Před 23 dny +5

    That just goes to show that the barb is the love child and the rest are the unwanted children

  • @DanielgunKim
    @DanielgunKim Před 23 dny +2

    Thank you Rob for your tier build video! This was helpful and loved your analysis of the meta shift for season 5! Keep up the great work you do for the D4 community! 😊 (p.s. Nice haircut Rob!)

  • @kickedmydogpresents
    @kickedmydogpresents Před 23 dny +19

    Remember when the Devs said they didn’t want damage to get as high as D3 levels? Look at us now

    • @jasonlucia6682
      @jasonlucia6682 Před 23 dny

      I knew that was out the window when I saw base weapon damage was 3600 lol.

    • @StillWeRide
      @StillWeRide Před 23 dny +1

      big numbers are awesome though. i hope they dont go any higher though

    • @Da5kone001
      @Da5kone001 Před 22 dny +1

      they had to walk that back the community hated it, their original concepts and ideas are gone no reason to act like its not exactly what the playerbase wanted.

  • @markd9318
    @markd9318 Před 23 dny +19

    If they dont cap gushing wounds, im not playing season 5 and im not getting the expansion. There is no reason to cap the damage on every class but barb. Fuck. That. Noise.

    • @Szajrii
      @Szajrii Před 23 dny

      Yeah that is sad, every top tier barb build has 1 thing in common - BLEED. Every other key passive is just weak compared to gushing wounds

    • @mindezz
      @mindezz Před 23 dny

      Go cry to your mama

    • @jarrodgentry9966
      @jarrodgentry9966 Před 23 dny

      Yeah, so nerf the build, that’ll help all the other classes. Genius. That’s how I know you’re a hater. Don’t advocate for your favorite class to improve, just advocate that the other guys get nerved to the point they suck as bad as you

    • @markd9318
      @markd9318 Před 23 dny +3

      @jarrodgentry9966 yes it will help all the other classes because they won't be comparative shit anymore.

    • @kennyhouser3467
      @kennyhouser3467 Před 20 dny +1

      ​@jarrodgentry9966 Bro, if every other class is brought up to 230 billion dmg Barb level and everything in the game dies in 2 seconds, you get a bad game. Barb players who cry about not wanting to be brought in line with other classes are toxic to the health of the game. It's already to the point where any time I'm standing at the pit obelisk, I see 7 Barbs and nothing else. You people just want it to be a 1 class game and that's dumb.

  • @Sauron181
    @Sauron181 Před 22 dny

    Nice video, you summon the info very good. Thanks!

  • @Copeharder00
    @Copeharder00 Před 23 dny

    Thanks Rob 🙏 I was wanting to try the new chain lightning Sorc, but I’m gonna run Barb again.

  • @TheShizzo
    @TheShizzo Před 23 dny +46

    I'm convinced that the employees in charge of balancing really have no idea how the top builds function. Blizz needs to hire people like Rob to help balance classes because clearly their current employees do not play the game nearly enough to fully understand it.

    • @lil----lil
      @lil----lil Před 23 dny +5

      NO need. Just use paid customers as beta testers like they've been doing. Why pay more for experienced devs?

    • @Jobboka
      @Jobboka Před 23 dny

      Search "muppets using computer" , that's blizzard balancing

    • @adammarette2491
      @adammarette2491 Před 23 dny

      You can do billions of damage, this game was made by touched people

    • @Honzjan22
      @Honzjan22 Před 23 dny +7

      Yeah sure hire the most biased streamer to do the balance chances.AnD NNNnneeeWWW MMMmeTTa bAArb 🥴🥴👌👌👌👌

    • @chrisw4672
      @chrisw4672 Před 23 dny +3

      Yea hire Barb shills like him, I would love to see Barbs get to equip 8 weapons someday.

  • @apollo5756
    @apollo5756 Před 22 dny +2

    How come Rogue is a "bug" but Barb doing half a trillion is never "bugged"

  • @chrisbenson98
    @chrisbenson98 Před 23 dny +4

    I still haven’t given up on the Sorc yet. It’s a great class for farming low end content. There needs to be a way to ramp DPS, and a rework to the key passives would be a great start, but the real problem is the paragon glyphs. More general mechanics instead of hyper specific mechanics could also help.
    I mean this isn’t rocket science.

    • @kesh_r
      @kesh_r Před 23 dny +1

      As a former sorc, and now barb… it’s time to give up on the sorc. Barb is like a whole new game

  • @ChristopherCrawleyapollios

    Great vid I bought shirts for me and the wifu with your code thnx intotheAM and Rob!

  • @chrisbenson98
    @chrisbenson98 Před 23 dny +4

    Just out of left field here but.
    Giving the Sorc a third weapon slot, and a third enchantment slot seems to be the most requested ideas so far.
    That could work, but would make the class much more difficult to balance properly.
    Just reworked key passives would be decent for now, as most likely the expansion will address a lot of the class issues.

    • @13Shadeslayer
      @13Shadeslayer Před 23 dny +2

      the expansion will likely nerf sorcs some more and give a buff to barbs just in case

    • @overpowerrd
      @overpowerrd Před 23 dny +1

      Yd I'd love a third enchant slot. but to be honest, most of the skills when slotted in enchant are absolute garbage so I dont think that would do a whole lot unless they rework the enchants.

    • @user-sx1ot6kt5t
      @user-sx1ot6kt5t Před 22 dny +1

      sorc just doesnt have good multipliers(against unstopable enemies), thats it, 3rd ench slot wont do shit, they just need to make all multipliers work against bosses

    • @TheGamedMind
      @TheGamedMind Před 15 dny

      Just don't balance. The balancing is really the problem here - it is obvious they are clueless what is fun and just break the game more and more.

  • @Sppl18
    @Sppl18 Před 23 dny +4

    i also hope for other buffs for the sorc, not only chain lightning, if they keep goin for 1 strong build per class and season its just boring

  • @avatarofdeath
    @avatarofdeath Před 23 dny +5

    I don't like calling it WW Barb, its DustDevil WW barb. We still don't have a build that actually does damage with WW.

    • @Rob2628
      @Rob2628  Před 23 dny

      That’s true but ppl just refer to it as Whirlwind Barb

  • @_dnlcee
    @_dnlcee Před 23 dny +3

    Been a sorc main since s2 and then I switched to rogue then to barb in s4 and I can say I truly feel the gap that the barb has between the other classes Ive played. I really enjoyed Barb now but please properly buff the sorc as I still love that class but its almost unplayable in comparison with the Barb

  • @WatcherEight
    @WatcherEight Před 21 dnem +3

    As long as Shred isnt a thing, im going to skip every season until it is

  • @Rohirrim009
    @Rohirrim009 Před 22 dny +1

    WE NEED LOADOUTS im sick of having to do multiple character just to change build.

  • @Maddog4o2
    @Maddog4o2 Před 23 dny +4

    Rob got a fresh cut 👍

  • @sosolik18
    @sosolik18 Před 23 dny +3

    way easier to change 4 classes to bring them to the barb level, instead of nerfing 1 class...jesus

  • @yvespisele5921
    @yvespisele5921 Před 23 dny +2

    Tal rasha ring needs a buff so it could scale with all elements , with the tempering it's possible to get schadow and poison damage , key passives need a rework and lightning sorc needs damage multiplier's

  • @StillWeRide
    @StillWeRide Před 23 dny

    the class art youre using is so sick!!

  • @kawapwi6231
    @kawapwi6231 Před 23 dny +19

    Hope they nerf Gushing Wounds. Rogue doing 22 bil damage with perfect 3 GA, 3x Crits on Masterwork = bugged. Barblo with average gear doing 230 billion damage, as intended. No bug! LOL

    • @abusulimanabusuliman521
      @abusulimanabusuliman521 Před 23 dny +4

      Why nerf ?!
      Just buff other classes

    • @LemonRush7777
      @LemonRush7777 Před 23 dny +6

      ​@@abusulimanabusuliman521 Because we shouldn't even be on an insane powercreep. It's D3 all over again.

    • @teapea8184
      @teapea8184 Před 23 dny

      @@LemonRush7777 It's the last season before the expansion. We'll likely get reseted quite low with the expansion.

    • @jornwinter2579
      @jornwinter2579 Před 23 dny +3

      ​@@abusulimanabusuliman521 because we don't want back to d3 clearly!!!!
      Oh 300000000% dmg to skill woooow Shitty game design...

    • @kennyhouser3467
      @kennyhouser3467 Před 20 dny

      ​@@teapea8184Wrong... This has literally never happened in any Blizzard game. Xpacs always bring bigger damage.

  • @will.42069
    @will.42069 Před 23 dny +2

    Nice new hair rob

  • @barthalomew12
    @barthalomew12 Před 23 dny +4

    Why does Blizzard hate the Sorcerer?

    • @TheGamedMind
      @TheGamedMind Před 15 dny

      As a sorc player, maybe it's because sorcs are ugly af. If I didn't love magic, I wouldn't be playing that ugly piece of s. Not that I am ever going to play D4 again at the rate they are nerfing the game.

  • @Tricksterboom
    @Tricksterboom Před 23 dny +1

    I'll never not be reminded how sad I am intotheam stopped all over print hoodies :(

  • @evan5863
    @evan5863 Před 23 dny +2

    The devs are walking around the balance of d4 as if they are in the woods with no map, no backpack, no water, no food, and no sense of direction xdd

  • @saschaberger6219
    @saschaberger6219 Před 22 dny +1

    Blizzard has given up on weakening the barbarian, they know you will find a way to make the barbarian number one 💯🤣

  • @andrealugano4871
    @andrealugano4871 Před 22 dny

    Hi Rob compliments for the builds you create....i'll take advantage of this latest video to ask you how the power of Lucion's crown works. At 5 stacks is there still a reduction in the cost of resources or not? thank you very much

  • @TheBulletBanger
    @TheBulletBanger Před 18 dny

    Nasa is jealous of how much RAM is his computer. He has more tabs open than NASA has sticks of ram.

  • @CheffreyPlaysGames
    @CheffreyPlaysGames Před 23 dny

    I never thought id miss set armour from D3 so much and while it made eveyone wear mostly the same gear atleast it opened up more class builds than in D4

  • @SupremoWillSW
    @SupremoWillSW Před 23 dny +1

    Wow the sorcerer wallpaper I love it, uuuhh I want it … where I can get it ?
    Nice video men

    • @Rob2628
      @Rob2628  Před 23 dny +1

      Yes thanks mate in my discord there is an artwork channel - link in video description- enjoy!

    • @SupremoWillSW
      @SupremoWillSW Před 23 dny

      @@Rob2628 ok

    • @SupremoWillSW
      @SupremoWillSW Před 23 dny

      @@Rob2628 God bless you

  • @kurtnordli1381
    @kurtnordli1381 Před 21 dnem +1

    What blizzard should do is make it so every class can have 12 possible aspects equipped all they would have to do create a couple more item slot types for each character.

  • @TheGamedMind
    @TheGamedMind Před 15 dny

    As a long time magic player in every game I play, another round of Sorc nerfs means I am indefinitely shelving this game - probably for good. What a sad state of affairs.

  • @ThomashowardX
    @ThomashowardX Před 23 dny +7

    Of course barb will always be the best by default. Only class that has 6 hands, extra bonuses from extra affixes and legendsry effects and crystals. That kakes it best already. Its like 2h scythe would need to have 4 x times current stats on barb to counter it

    • @Skydogg5555
      @Skydogg5555 Před 22 dny

      "Of course barb will always be the best by default"
      except it hasn't always been the best lmfao, people like you are why devs shouldn't listen to their community. you just whine all day about your favorite class instead of caring about balance. the entire point of barb having 4 weapons and necro having 1 or 2 is because necro has a book of the dead and barb has arsenal+weapons, its the class design you are so fucking clueless.

    • @kennyhouser3467
      @kennyhouser3467 Před 20 dny

      Why is it that Blizzard, and a lot of players can't wrap their minds around raising class specific values to compensate for the lack of extra weapons? It's always "bArBs HaS 6 wEaPoNs. I wAnTs 6 WeApOnS oN mY sOrC tOo."

    • @Skydogg5555
      @Skydogg5555 Před 20 dny

      I get that you are probably not that bright, but the key difference is that necro has minions and book of the dead as it’s class mechanic. so your point about 2h scythe needing 4x stats to “counter” barb doesn’t make sense. each class has its own unique mechanic so if you want necro to have 4x stats on its 2h, book of the dead would need to be removed or nerfed.

    • @ThomashowardX
      @ThomashowardX Před 20 dny +1

      @@Skydogg5555 necro has book, barb has weapon masteries, same shit different thing. All I can see it proves the point that barb is strong and can use more codex powers due to having more slots. I main barb and it has been a thing since I remember.

    • @Skydogg5555
      @Skydogg5555 Před 20 dny

      @@ThomashowardX its not same shit different thing, your entire point is just to list what makes barb a barb and then say "because i have listed what makes barb a barb, i'm going to now say i want necro to have a 2h scythe with 4x current stats". again, barbs do not have book of the dead...stop pretending that giving necro 2h scythe with 4x stats would be a good direction.
      there is a reason why blizzard hasn't done this trash suggestion you give and has buffed book of the dead scaling and other actually interesting changes that keep each class unique.

  • @carbonfiber117
    @carbonfiber117 Před 23 dny

    i have a question which is better for WW build on gloves specifically dmg while bersk or crit dmg?

  • @markstelzl1245
    @markstelzl1245 Před 23 dny +3

    Shock horror he puts barb as number 1. Omfg. 😂

  • @sebastiangoetz510
    @sebastiangoetz510 Před 23 dny +2

    I just go for a Barb and a Rouge… Just because Sorc my favourite Class is broken and they want fix it. In other words there is no other possibillity because everything else is crap.

  • @FocusplusPassion
    @FocusplusPassion Před 23 dny

    I've know idea about the damage number but the way Exploit node execute all Nearby Non-Boss enemies. Exactly like PTR patch says.

  • @lincolnitguy
    @lincolnitguy Před 22 dny

    Best D4 content creator/streamer imho and all around great guy. Thanks Rob!

  • @kesh_r
    @kesh_r Před 23 dny +2

    New haircut looking like a barbillion bucks

  • @teapea8184
    @teapea8184 Před 23 dny

    Have to remember they said they are going to change all of the existing uniques in some ways come season 5. This is really important for Sorc at least, because uniques in general are stronger and more build defining for Sorcs than their legendary powers and tempers are.

  • @Z3R051V3gaming
    @Z3R051V3gaming Před 23 dny +1

    Blizzard - bring everyone up to Barb level
    Also Blizzard - WHOA BOYS NECRO GOT TOO CLOSE!!!! NERRRRFFFFFF

  • @grackization
    @grackization Před 22 dny

    Man I am so damn hyped for August... Season 5 followed by TWW launch... what a time to be alive XD

  • @NobleHangman
    @NobleHangman Před 6 dny

    For years and years, i still make a barb, gear him, level him, to farm mats for my sorcerer. I really like the look and feel of the sorcerer class. Aside from the shatter/Fireball/burning BS, which really feels more like an exploit than a build, its just trash compared to other classes. Its like Blizzard is deaf and blind to the hundreds if not thousands of hours of videos and posts that place it last consistently in the class list in D3 AND D4. I was hoping the lightning build would be stronger than suggested with the new things - to see an "S" class sorcerer build that isn't based on some hack. I honestly wish Rob worked on the game design staff.

    • @NobleHangman
      @NobleHangman Před 6 dny

      Oh wait there was one 3 or 4 years ago..the Firebird build in D3 where you zipped around and blew stuff up with a slashing attack and little copies of you spawned. Now that was fun.

  • @petermarasco1105
    @petermarasco1105 Před 23 dny +1

    Finally, Landslide gets some love.

  • @dale1890
    @dale1890 Před 23 dny +5

    Sorc needs more survivability. If you don't have a barrier or a shield active you probably get one shot. Most of my skill slots are taken up by defensive skills. I get a barrier when I use a cooldown.
    So I basically get a barrier at the same time as I have a shield. The only cooldown that I use that actually gives me a barrier is frost nova (freezes) and lightning spear (stuns) so the 3 second barrier is mostly useless. You could argue teleport but it gives a 4 second DR so basically a 1 second usable DR. This makes using a single target skill like ice shards hard to use. It clears mobs but against bosses it struggles. You have to spend more time running than dealing damage. Blizzard/ice spikes does more single target damage and does DOT while you're running.
    I feel that they should either give sorc a full time DR passive or extend the duration of barriers. Icy veil does this so maybe they could just boost the % to it.
    I know that people like clearing mobs quickly but a single target skill needs to do more damage to a single target than an AOE.

    • @dale1890
      @dale1890 Před 23 dny

      It's funny how typing something out can change your thinking. Maybe I have it backwards. I've been using the defensive skills from the beginning when it's possible that just relying on the barrier from cooldowns would be better. So still use teleport with the damage node and replace the other 2 with offensive cooldown skills. I guess it's worth looking in to.

    • @laars0001
      @laars0001 Před 23 dny +1

      They really need to prevent 1 shots, cap it to like 90% damage imho

    • @lukebrady65
      @lukebrady65 Před 23 dny +1

      I feel like you just look at the Sorceress and she dies, yet the Barbarian can reach over 500K HP. It should absolutely not be like this. It's so sad.

    • @altaisrs2857
      @altaisrs2857 Před 21 hodinou

      @@lukebrady65 Not only the sorc. Any of the magic using classes. At least the sorc is comparably fast. Druid, and even more so, necro are slow, too.

  • @Chiefmuz
    @Chiefmuz Před 23 dny +2

    Cooldown on focus lets take it away as sorc is too powerful. (Blizzard 2024)

  • @DjZynox
    @DjZynox Před 21 dnem

    Nice wallpaper what side you get it?

  • @UltracoreUltraUranium
    @UltracoreUltraUranium Před 23 dny

    Buff to Landslide was great although it was always very very solid/above average.

  • @EchoedTears
    @EchoedTears Před 23 dny +1

    Every build should be viable. I loved but also hated s4 cuz of basic skills... how lame is that... make the gsme so that every build works. Basic skills. Core skills. Mastery what ever u name it.... i was so hyped start of season 4 with teleport build. Got like 2k incr teleport dmg but couldt clear higher then tier 65 orso... after 2 weeks i quit esspecially when insaw basic skills were ruling the leaderboards...

  • @zemekiel
    @zemekiel Před 23 dny +1

    What do you mean fair balance of the game?
    There should be no balance, Barbs should always dominate!

  • @amko88823
    @amko88823 Před 23 dny +1

    Danke!

  • @Devilchylde
    @Devilchylde Před 23 dny +1

    Everyone play barb send a clear message to blizzard that no other class compares

  • @evg3nius
    @evg3nius Před 22 dny

    combine locras and lucion into SAME item, make it uber unique and sprinkle with some nerf. Then we'll have an uber to chase for all core builds. May be make it a helm, so it competes with shaco for the slot

  • @iamkukari4161
    @iamkukari4161 Před 22 dny

    where are you getting your wallpapers? :D

  • @MD99.
    @MD99. Před 23 dny

    Where does rob get his d4 art? Like the wolves and stuff

  • @fairplay9559
    @fairplay9559 Před 23 dny +1

    I really don't care about season 4 anymore, when season 5 is suppose to launch? Btw, thanks for the content Rob!

    • @Rob2628
      @Rob2628  Před 23 dny +1

      August 6th - thanks mate 👍🏻

  • @redexexile795
    @redexexile795 Před 23 dny +2

    how the fk he has 600 tab open and computer dont crash

  • @gabrielmarinho9060
    @gabrielmarinho9060 Před 23 dny

    Some idea of builds for sorcerer "... sorc's hydras become mobile pets..."; "...ball lightning is now summoned at a target and explodes instantly..."; "...meteor is now a giant meteor summoned at the target doing physical damage..."; "...putting different element shields/barriers now gives thorns elemental damage while active at the same time..."

  • @p7755fn
    @p7755fn Před 23 dny +2

    It's incredible how I paid 60 dollars for a game to play only Sorc... and Surprise!! It's been shit this whole time trying to enjoy the game! I will not pay again for such a frustrating experience and expensive game

    • @p7755fn
      @p7755fn Před 23 dny

      odd's decisions and direction were horrible

    • @MMoer
      @MMoer Před 23 dny

      Ok cry harder

    • @p7755fn
      @p7755fn Před 23 dny

      @@MMoer youmomcry harder

    • @p7755fn
      @p7755fn Před 23 dny

      @@MMoer yormomcry,harder

    • @MMoer
      @MMoer Před 21 dnem

      @@p7755fn lol You can't even type correctly. Figures. 🤣

  • @HeathenTrucker
    @HeathenTrucker Před 21 dnem

    I usually hate on you because you cater to builds that 90% of players can't truly achieve. But you're usually right about things

  • @shadowknight2400
    @shadowknight2400 Před 19 dny

    So what is the best build for bosses if it isn't flay?

  • @musicxxa6678
    @musicxxa6678 Před 23 dny

    man i already played this landslide druid this season. i was hoping something different creeping up next season like more overpower to pulverize or somethn. or maybe shred

  • @HedwigxRocks
    @HedwigxRocks Před 23 dny +1

    clean cut my g

  • @MihailaAlexandru
    @MihailaAlexandru Před 15 dny

    Rob, you are the best !!!

  • @LeMiBu
    @LeMiBu Před 22 dny

    how are you guys measuring DPS is there a damage meter like in WOW?

  • @simonevalia1505
    @simonevalia1505 Před 23 dny +3

    We went from Beavis to the Rickrolled meme I see

  • @HeathenTrucker
    @HeathenTrucker Před 21 dnem

    Only issue is people completely go by tier lists and not what the have fun with. The think if they go for a top build then they will be better than everyone. You should do disclaimers on how hard a top builds is to achieve lol

  • @raistlinmajere3194
    @raistlinmajere3194 Před 22 dny

    Blizzard need to re-tune the damage and enemy life values to a lower value. It will not feel like a nerf since the intention is to synchronize the reduction with the player damage and enemy life. That way, we will not see these absurd numbers. By the time DLC came, D4 would have overlapped D3 with the insane damage numbers.

  • @ocruz9797
    @ocruz9797 Před 22 dny

    Why wouldn’t u want every build to perform high again? If every build on every class was performing the same or close to each other, it sounds like balance to me. If flay build hits 1-2 billion and upheaval build hits 700-800mil, Necro minions at 1-2 billion and bone spear at 800mil-1.5 billion, pulverize 800-900mil landslide 1-2billion. Or hey, flurry at 11 dmg and rapid fire at 17 dmg. Whatever the numbers, just seems like it’ll be more balanced this way than what it is or has been

  • @Dexxxterity
    @Dexxxterity Před 23 dny

    That’s exactly right, they need to get the builds as strong as the barbarian to balance classes, not nerffing them to get there, also they need to get rid of the limit to temper items, finding a great item and bricking it is one of the worst experiences in the game, we also need more endgame activities and bosses, hopefully soon

  • @shoezqt
    @shoezqt Před 23 dny +1

    praise the barber

  • @jonahsmith8595
    @jonahsmith8595 Před 22 dny

    I havent ever gotten a character good enough to even fight lilith due to not having alot of time and some really bad rng. And ive never looked at build vids or websites because i think it takes the fun and creativity out of rpgs when you simply copy and paste what you see on a youtube video. But i didnt think there would be that many good basic builds already. I was really excited checking out the new uniques because i always wanted to try making a really good basic build but i always fell a bit short of great. I only have 1 level 100 and ive been playing the same druid since launch trying to make a great build with the claw and i got a level 58 barb that i tried to make a frenzy build.

  • @suzy_ueda
    @suzy_ueda Před 23 dny

    Question: will the changes to uber (mythic) uniques be applied to existing ones? Or will we have to farm them all over again for the 1000th time?

    • @Rob2628
      @Rob2628  Před 23 dny +1

      Yes all existing ones will change afaik

    • @suzy_ueda
      @suzy_ueda Před 23 dny

      @@Rob2628 🥰🙏

  • @eduardoguimaraes608
    @eduardoguimaraes608 Před 23 dny +2

    you have to invest in pvp, pve with a month to go there's nothing to do, it's simply boring

  • @fnShaft
    @fnShaft Před 23 dny

    Where does the Third Blade/pure Rupture build, as it stands, rank on this list?

  • @mflotti905
    @mflotti905 Před 23 dny +1

    Link to the Chineses Barrage Andariel Rogue S5 ?

  • @gaborangeli3d
    @gaborangeli3d Před 23 dny

    How would this list look like without any mythic uniques? That would be more realistic, especially for a start of a season.

  • @InfiniteRage_Gaming
    @InfiniteRage_Gaming Před 17 dny

    So basically the same builds as S4...got it. SO glad NCAA Football 25 comes out on the 19th!

  • @ANK-57
    @ANK-57 Před 23 dny

    Really hope they work on shred and make it viable for endgame play...

  • @aczeos
    @aczeos Před 23 dny +1

    6:32 This game is a lot of fun I've played druid since release and tried a barb finally in season 4.
    Who is in charge of balancing these characters, and how do they still have a job lmfao

  • @hunterstrong3318
    @hunterstrong3318 Před 20 dny

    Iv been wondering if an ancients build is even still viable anymore

  • @nickitaabitov1265
    @nickitaabitov1265 Před 20 dny

    why is andariel not used on druid? huricane strike very often and poison nova will procs very often