Edge 50 Pro vs Galaxy S23 FE Full Comparison - Which Phone to Buy Under Rs 35,000?
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- The Samsung Galaxy S23FE is available for under Rs.35,000 during this Flipkart Big Savings Day Sale. This created a new competition for the Motorola Edge 50 Pro and we decided to compare and see which one wins. Is it the Edge 50 Pro or the Galaxy S23FE? Let's find out.
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00:00 Introduction
00:25 Performance
01:26 Battery
02:16 Camera
04:56 Software
06:55 Design
07:46 Conclusion
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Using Moto Edge 50 pro for a week. It's just awesome. One camera update has come too. Camera is exceptional. Better than S21 FE. Did not have to download Gcam as stock camera is as good as Gcam.
That fast charging is really fast and so handy. Battery life is awesome. Can't complain about anything regarding Moto.
has the video performance and stabilization improved after update?
@@brenzikmohaa I got the phone after update so can't tell the difference. I don't usually take videos.
@@brenzikmohaa I got update next day after buying 😅
Have you got cover and screen guard 8n market??? Its not availble any where in local market
@@jailodha028 Get it online. It's good enough. Although I got my tempered glass in local shop, my case is yet to come
0:26 Editor added an 8 Gen2 graphic on the S23FE 💀💀
Oh shit. Well spotted. Lol.
@@TrakinTechEnglish please make a dedicated video comparison between S23FE Samsung Dex & Edge50Pro Motorola Ready For (Moto Connect) both Wired (usb c to HDMI) and Wireless on PC & TV.
What's best smartphone under 26k to 30k strictly.for parents?
Go with Nord ce4
@@Samdevay Motorola Edge50 Pro is the absolute best but I don't think there's any reason to spend that much if the phone's gonna be used by older folks. The Nothing 2a is good enough, especially for the upcoming sale price.
Under budget phones you needed
Camera - Google pixel
Performance - Iqqo or Poco ( heating issues are there in Poco check the reviews before buying)
Ui - nothing, Google pixel
Overall everything - Samsung S series and iPhone
But most of you don't need the flagship phone because because most of you can't use every aspect of it. Second, if you think the phone is a status to you then you are wrong coz when it isn't there no one respects you.
Final points phone is not an accessory it's a liability ( like recharging the phone ( electricity costs money), recharging the sim card (costs money), other accessories costs), etc. Think about it...
99% of people care about flagship then go for 30000 to 40000 to this budget you can your destination phone whether its performance or camera. Go for what you need not for what you don't need.
Exactly. 👍🏼
Honestly for me pixel is perfect just the heating and network issue are holding me back from buying them
Then how come it is perfect @@rawmango1321
Pixel are the woest. Overheating, weak performance, slow charging, battery draining etc. Only buy pixel if you want a compact phone with good camera and quality display
You could have added oneplus in performance than two unknown chapri third class brands like ikoo and poco
S23 FE crosses 35k when you consider buying 25Watts charger for 1299rs
Interesting.
Urbn 25 charger comes for 500 bucks. Does the job. 🤣
@@TrakinTechEnglishaap huawei ka new smartphone ka review kar do
@@sohailR007rupees hai bucks ke chode
Based on the current generation we usually have 2-3 chargers available at our home roaming here & there so buying a new one doesn't make sense. According to Samsung the phone supports 25w charger which is very basic nowadays.
7:15 i prefer glass with matte finish over vegan leather , but vegan leater is better than normal glass is what i feel .
But glass with matte finish is slippery as a piece of soap! Therefore vegan leather is the best 👑 I bought OnePlus 12 the green variant with matte glass back and it's so slippery that I can't even use it at home without a case, but otherwise it's the perfect phone I just wish it had a vegan leather backside.
none the less, you're still gonna use a back-cover. It's more protective ( def for glass builds ) and... you aren't stuck with just one singular non-removable case right? Although yeah cooling is gonna be an issue for serious gamers and outdoor users.
Ordered Moto Edge 50 pro, as I've already used Edge 20 and loved the stock Android feel. Moreover, Moto phones are very slim
What about its hardware Life, moto can be run flawlessly for 4 or 5 years
@@palaniadvocate5661 I have moto G5splus a mobile lunched in 2017 about 7 years old phone works fine but battery backup has been reduced. I use it as secondary device.
@@palaniadvocate5661
Yes, it can run for 4-5 years but Motorola service is bad they don't handle your device with care.
Motorola waste
@@movielove36 ohh hoo,,🥺
s23FE is bad , s21fe was the last good midrange phone
s21fe also was with an overheating and battery draining snap 888.
The S20FE had better gaming performance than the S21FE, and and SD card slot.
But older version,dude and not much camera like s21fe
@@ShubhamYadav-ef4pn it's equal to 21 fe
@@Kruthin-cu6cq naa bro, watch a comparison video there's a minute diff
Dude. Thought s21fe was the best until I got that fu**inn green line in my phone...
People keep on talking about the software update situation of moto.. but im using the Moto Edge 30 and trust me the bigger problem is the laggy camera app and poor video recording.
If moto fixes this, they are gonna sit on top coz i absolutely love all other aspects.
Moto has lots of custom ROM support. It's literally a big W for it.
Same problem here currently using moto edge 40 . But camera is laggy and Is like using camera of 10k phone
Photo/video quality comes secondary. First, we need at least a trust worthy camera app. Unfortunately, i can't trust Moto's camera coz there were instances where I clicked important pictures..only to find out later that it's not there in the gallery at all... Or it captured blurry/off-frame pics becoz the processing got delayed. This is a serious issue..
@@vivshij1349 yeah exactly moto is doing great they only need to focus on optimization. Recently I got update of Android 14 and it's not optimised I've recently seen many bugs like network camera battery display brightness laggy .etc
What's best smartphone under 26k to 30k strictly for parents?
Please suggest me please what shouldi but moto edge 50 pro or moto 50 fusion
Is the screen size of the S23fe the same size as the S10+ or Note10? because they are both 6.4 without the bezels?
Flat display over curved. I have used curved and it did look good but it's not that special. It's hard to find good screen protectors for curved screens and curved edges can wear down in quality more than the flat part of the display over time. When I sold my phone, some wear down on the curved display was one of the reason for low resale value. Flat displays are simple and easy find good affordable screen protectors.
waiting for S24 FE with slim bezels and 45W charging, I prefer curved display but I want to pick Samsung Experience but my mind cannot accept those thick bezels, actually these bezels are thicker than phones under 25K
Exactly. My friend just purchased S23 FE and these bazels are totally break my heart. Look at S21FE's bazel and look this one.
30k price segment is the most confusing coz in deals season, Nothing Phone 2 OnePlus 11R are also competing under 30k plus if you're paying 2k extra for higher variant then iqoo neo 9 pro is also in the picture 😢 how do these moto,realme & redmi phones stack upto these 40k segment phones coming under 30k
Bought np2 os is amazing
Seriously this is the video what I wanted...was surfing endlessly lastnight for comparision!
Edge display preference I have over flat
It gives me unrestricted feel
And coming from op7 pro, i even find the front camera cutout to be a distraction
Hello..hope u r doing well.I'm your one of the follower. I'm a android user bt I dont mind if it IOS..which phone should I buy between 30-45 k range..need good camera,good screen,good performance,good build quality..curve screen look good to me bt what's ur suggestion ?please let me know.Thank you.
for getting more points in ufs 3.1 ,settings must be changed to high processing in samsung
Which is best phone to buy OnePlus 12R or Samsung s23fe ?
I'm a big fan of your tech reviews and often rely on your insights before making a purchase. I'm currently considering the Samsung S23, but I've come across some reports online about potential overheating issues during everyday use.
I was hoping you could share your experience with the S23, particularly regarding any heating problems. Have you encountered any overheating issues during your review process? If so, under what circumstances did they occur, and how severe were they?
Knowing your perspective on this would be incredibly helpful in making my decision. I trust your reviews and appreciate your honest feedback
The overhearing issues on the S23 is a bug
Will be fixed with the next update
I too want to buy S23 in this sale, watched many reviews but didn't come across any heating issue reported by any reviewer... The Snapdraon process present in it is very efficient and the phone manages heat very well,,, unless you are a heavy gamer.... It might heat up if you play games for long hours as it is a compact phone(same will be observed in pixel 8, iphone 15 too)...
Own as S23 for over a year now. The feel of the phone and the quality of a flagship is not comparable with other so called flagship killers. You genuinely pay for the quality, performance and long term stability.
Please note, this is not a gaming phone given the compact size. Another big reason to opt for this phone - its in hand feel.
Haven't experienced overheating but since the last April update, there has been some heating while using camera continuously. Next update should take care of it.
Totally worth buying at the current price point where you will get 3 more android updates and 4 years of security updates.
Hi Bro, need help. Im Samsung Note 20 User. Battery semmaya drain agudhu. I like alll Sams features (Camera, SecureFolder, Wallet, Gallery edit features, Object ereaser...ect) , but not the battery (exynos sambavam)
Looking for new Phone, these 2 are in my option. Is Samsung S33 fe Exynos battery Reliable? Nambi vangalama?
Or can i wait for s24 FE?
Or old S21 FE?
Or i can go with Moto?
Pics and Videos naraya use pannuvan, also editing...
Pls give your suggestion bro.
Buy S23 at sub 50k in sale
Much better than all 3 you have mentioned above
Just you will have to spend extra 10 k over budget but are getting a much rounded package
All other 3 have some or the other compromise
#TrakinTechEnglish Please make a dedicated video comparison between S23FE Samsung Dex & Edge50Pro Motorola Ready For (Moto Connect) both Wired (usb c to HDMI) and Wireless on PC & TV.🙏
Pleasse tell me whixh phone should i buy for better camera and front video recording, please 🙏 😅
in flipkart sale should i buy s 23 or the vivo x100 ? battery and software matter the most . or suggest a good phone under 65k (not iphone) please . I am confused
Go for x100🎉
It's a gap of more than 6k considering samsung doesn't give pre applied screen guard, charger or back cover
Please do a detailed review of Oneplus ace 3v
Please do a comparison between one plus 12r vs s23fe/s23
The last distinction was very perfect keep it in every comparison video
Thank you for doing this. I was sceptical about buying moto edge 50 pro, 1 month before. Was regretting that I should have waited for this sale on Flipkart. But now am clear, my purchase was sound. Loving the phone. Stutters a bit with camera UI, waiting for an update 🤞🏼
Same bro just waiting for camera update..apart from that phone is top notch🎉
Dont buy moto, its cheap quality brother
@@cineenthusiast1234 Price is also cheap my brother
The comparison I needed and well explained :) Thanks Ershad ❤
Moto edge 50 pro or one plus 11R??
Hay terkin tech english what app you used to measure the fps?
Takostats. :)
Terkin💀
bro pls do a comparison video between vivo v30pro and s23 fe based on this sale
Is there any mode like Pro mode or similar which will enable in taking true to life (not oversaturated) photos on the Motorola?
Yeah
When s24 fe will release..?
Motorola should up their game with OS. They should include more feature whats color os gives for eg )
I think their OS and UI design is actually good.
I have bought a Moto edge 50 pro with 128w 256gb memory.
Trust me guys, this phone is ahead of all its competitors. Whether it is screen refresh rate, touch UI, camera, charging speed, ram speed, stock Android and many more.
And this is no less than any flagship phone.
I was a Samsung galaxy user but after switching I feel moto 50 pro is excellent in all ways
Which Samsung Smartphone u had earlier?
Does your phone ring startup tone (hello moto) when you power on or restart your device
I have heard many complaints about camera app being buggy,causing lags and stabilization issues. Are you facing any?
Moto 😂 comparing it with flagship, its just shit cheap chinese quality
@@swanandhegde Nope. It's working fine. In fact the camera and it's AI is the best thing in this model.
I'm not aware of other models and it's camera
7:29 corning 5, it’s mentioned now on marketing material
When will you announce the nothing giveaway results?
Pleasee make a comparison video between vivo v30 vs OnePlus 11r vs moto edge 50 pro
Sending this from a moto Edge 50...the UI is buggy atleast in mine and i hope it gets rectified in an update and you have trouble finding accessories for the curved screen
Thanks for that buddy.
maybe your piece has some issues , mine ones works well . And yeah +1 on the second comment , finding accessories is hell of a task :/ been searching for tempered glass but have not been able to find one.
Could you share what sorts of bugs that you are facing?
@@anish.247 settled for the hydrogel for now so that I can atleast avoid scratches..for obvious reasons avoiding a uv tempered glass.. hopefully some brand will have an answer to that one
@@abhithtraj1816 well for one the home screen was buggy with the screen randomly going back on its own(I have gestures enabled for navigation instead of buttons but my skin was not touching the edge of the phone to have that happen).
I have chosen the The status bar/notification bar style to be modern but sometimes and specifically while watching content the bar wont drop down it will stay stuck and nothing short of restarting the phone will resolve it.
Considering a factory reset cos of this. Let's see
Edge 50 pro cost around 30k while S23FE cost above 40k and also charger is not included , by looking the price difference and specs ( nb: not the best in the market )definitely a kudos for the effort Motorola for giving a competitive price and among smartphone makert.
In Flipkart it costs 30k for s21 fe for 8/128 gb version
They are taking about s23fe... I just now ordered s21fe.. Where can I buy s23 fe for 34k? I will cancel my order please tell
@@somethingfishytamil s21 fe is better phone then s23 fe in my opinion
also you save few thousands , newer phone doesnt mean better phone
yes s23 fe will get 1 year longer support but is that worth ur hard earned money?
s23 fe is selling for 35k without card discount on flipkart
@@samvortex4136 thanks brother, I am buying s21 fe as secondary device for editing purpose.. S23fe has better look, better camera, better battery and s21 fe has green line issue, I ordered s21fe for around 34k(256 gb varient).. I need good storage for my large videos.. So stick with s21fe.. Thanks for the comment brother
@@somethingfishytamilflikart sale right now
In term of camera , what should I buy? Iqoo neo 9 pro or samsung S23 fe or Google pexel 7? Or plus nord 11?
moto edge 50 pro. Trust me i use edge 40 and it beats iphone 13 in photos. Videos are not that bad too. also low light performance is insane fr
does moto edge 50 support reverse wireless charging?@@vishwajitkarthick3931
Hey brother, I have purchased it today and after having used it for just half an hour it heats up!
Is it normal or my handset is malfunctioning?
I want to upgrade from pixel 6a but i have a budget of under 30k will this moto edge 50 pro do justice??
Glass feels more premium ... By the way what do you think about nothing phone 2 worth buying now ??
Flat display is better than the curved.
Vegan leather doesn't get scratch easily as compared to glass back.
Even the S21FE switches to the main sensor a crops in 3x in darker environments
Which one better samsung s23 fe or motorola edge 50 pro plz reply me
Exynos vs Snapdragon
No comparison
Plus without charger
Vivo v30 pro vs Motorola edge 50 pro which should buy bro
U have confused me in totality ... Can u suggest me. A good camera phone between 30-40k for content creation n photography as i ja e a great interest in that n would like to use it primarily for photography
Pixel 7
Vivo v30 pro
Does the software sensor work without problems on Samsung, because I hear Xiaomi has problems because it does not have a hardware sensor. Does the same thing exist in Samsung, or does Samsung provide a software sensor that works without problems, specifically on the S23FE? Because the S23fe is a software sensor, please reply. Does the software sensor in Samsung work without problems whether it is connected and listening to audio or in the pocket?
Bro do camera comparison of Motorola edge 50 pro vs vivo v30... Please bro... Big fan from Nepal🇳🇵
Please do redmi note 13 pro plus vs moto edge 50 pro as they are available for the same price now
Moto edge 50 pro or one plus 11 r in this sale season
Does motorola support Vo5G? its still a problem in moto phones.
supports
Moto edge 50 Pro vs oneplus 11r which is the best
Moto not 8/128 its 8/256
What about the Nothing phone (2) at 29,999?
It's a year old, but you get bigger batteries, better performance, better build quality, glyphs and a smooth af sw experience.
S23 fe is something no one should buy unless it's under 25k, buy iqoo neo 9 pro or oneplus 12r
12 r is 45 k
Bad battery and heating right? I got the Neo 9 pro. I am happy with it.
@@TYLER_DURDEN_82412r base varient is just 40k
@@Lionel212001 How is the camera?
@@mohang8823 The rear main sensor is really good, especially in night. The others do the job with the selfies being serviceable.
Are you really comparing with sfe23??
Do a review on s22 its available at 35k in flipkart
1:42 Pls I want that wallpaper. Bro anyone can tell me?😅
File sharing with USB (windows)is not working Moto edge 50 pro. In windows it's showing driver not available. Moto's built in app 'Ready For' supports file sharing but it's via wifi so the speed is very poor compared USB 3. Please make a video on this issue. Also the ready for app is full of bugs and crashes most of the times.
For my samsung phone also facing same problem recently. Is it happening recently after windows update ?
Nothing phone 2 Is available for this price should I go for that?
Does the phone's long term battery life get spoilt because of the super fast charging of Moto?
First time came across, tryna find a good review on Edge 50 pro... really good comparisons... u got a sub
Everything is good in moto but one thing which I hate is while recording calls it notifies.Which is a bigger drawback. Moto should remove that notification.
The display has Gorilla glass 5 protection. It is mentioned on their website
Forget nighttime, Samsung doesn't use the 3x in the evening or even indoors for some reason. It cannot be also used for macro either, it always does digital cropping.
Are you brainless 😂it uses a dedicated camera you can switch that
I'd prefer moto.. Though Samsung has better brand value, it's 25W charger always bums me out..
After sales????
@@karthikeyan53 he is talking about after sales services
Idk? Is charging time that much of a dealbreaker?
Samsung is seriously behind and thats just sad, to see the way they're treating one of the biggest markets for phones in the world.
Idc about your 80k rs phone performing as good as an iphone, but when your current 30k phone performs worse then a 5 year old chinese smartphone, which launched for less than half that price 5 years ago, its seriously concerning.
How they have sophisticated software paired with terrible hardware is beyond me.
I would like to go with s22 as I want a camera centric phone
What about HDR playback in Netflix and prime video?
That will be supported soon
Loved your comparisons❤
Glad you liked it!!
Any special offer for Moto Edge 50 Pro for Trakin Tech subscribers??
you must've added pixel 7a into the comparison too it's also at 36k
Overheats with very poor cellular network. No sense to put it in here
For long run buy Samsung and also it's software experience is way better than moto
I am currently using edge 40 and facing lots of small bugs after Android 14 update
Moto need to focus on software may be in future moto phones will improve but for now Samsung is lot better
Bro, as a Tech Expert you use to be in touch with all the mobile Brands. Please suggest to Motorola change their update policy. Basic phone from Samsung is getting 4+5 year's. Premium phone from Motorola is getting 2+3 Year's. Really disappointed with Motorola update policy. Except Update policy, everything good from Motorola. Hope you will convey the same with Motorola team. Thank you Bro 🤝
I want to buy edge 50 pro. Should I go for 8gb or 12gb variant as it gets 125w charger. And would the 125w damage the battery in long run/the heating issues are too major?? Please suggest an option, and thank u in advance
No bro
You can go for the 12GB variant. Because the phone will draw the energy it needed based on the current battery percentage and temperature. Therefore there's no need to worry. 125W means it can go to 125 W speed when it needed in the right conditions.
1:46 There is a mistake. The 8gb variant too comes with 256gb of storage.
No bro
1:45 base variant is 8/256 not 128 gb
6:55 what kind of animation this is????😅😅😅😅
Very nice analysis.
I m impressed.
Samsung bets moto in Videos and Software experience.
But Moto is better if price is considered along with charger. I wish moto fixes the Video recording issue.
The performance is so good that it looks like animation.
Where can I buy s23 fe for 34k? I just now ordered s21fe for 33k please tell I will cancel my order
On flipkart
@@vivekgupta5153 already someone told me on another comment brother.. Thanks for the reply
@@somethingfishytamilDon't cancel S21Fe dude, else u will regret buying S23FE
Can you confirm if Moto has inbuilt app lock ?
No app lock for moto and samsung...
Do compare Realme 12 pro plus with this
My only concern with Moto is updates. I had a Moto edge 40 and the updates were pathetic on that.
Android 14 is already out for the Edge 40!
Custom ROMs support was very good in Motorola. If you going to buy another phone, don't throw moto. Try to install custom ROMs and play with it.
It will make the phone totally new.
I am a Pixel phone user since past 6 years, used Pixel 3a and 4a phones. As the latest pixel phones are out of my budget, this time I have got Moto Edge 50 pro.
After using it for 12 days,
Pros:
Great Audio system
Big and bright Display
Auto Video stabilization feature ( This is awesome❤)
Sleek Edge Design
Fast Charging
Battery Backup
Great performance
Cons:
Camera (Not as great as it is boasting off)
Overheating while charging ( At times I am shit scared of this heating problem)
Too many gliches in OS/UI
- Flickering while displaying marqueed/sliding content in the apps.
- Can't switch to bluetooth audio device after accepting the WhatsApp calls
- Abrupt restart of phone while on call
- Adaptive brightness feature is so pathetic ( Especially while watching Videos)
- Unwanted repeated popups asking to turnoff mobile data ( It is so annoying)
Over all I would give 3/5.
Moto edge 50 pro, nothing 2 or 11r?
11r or s21fe
Using S23fe rn, that too with my old moto PD charger.
Irony xD !!
Is the battery life ok and is the detailing in the camera good or is it grainy as some creators are saying so
@@charchitgupta9808 Tbh I feel the battery is not veryy great, but completely practical and fine (coming from a moto device, they generally have better backup due to stock....you know).
Cameras are pretty good and good detailing as well..
..night mode can get grainy....however, telephoto portraits are a treat.
On top of all that, AI features and not a gimmick, I genuinely use and love them.
The battery life is not veryyy great but completely practical and fine (coming from a moto device; they tend to have better backup.....you know).
Cameras are great, I personally didn't feel any lack of detailing. Night mode can sometimes get grainy(should be acceptable in my opinion). However the telephoto is an absolute treat!
On top of all that, One UI has exceeded my expectations, I like it....
AI FEATURES are not a gimmick!!
I genuinely love and use them.
Glass back is more premium than leather back
Sir s23 Fe under 40k Lana worth it haa heating and battery Kasi ha performance?? Please reply me
battery is worst even with light usage have to charge twice
Can please make a comparison between moto edge 50 pro and iqoo Neo 9 Pro?
Iq better obviously
It just doesn't has telephoto
Samsung phones are not meant for Indian weather. They get too hot while using and charging and are incredibly uncomfortable to hold at such time. Their battery backup is also pathetic so if you travel a lot or want a full day backup then you should stay away from them
A power bank?
@@sayannaskar9855 Power bank doesnt solve the heating and slow charging. I had bought 2 powerbanks for my S21fe but it's a hassle carrying powerbanks. It's easier to buy a phone with better battery backup ie One plus nord ce4 5G. I have also noticed that my S21fe had unreliable 5g Compatibility, Nord Ce4 Offers much better network.
Samsung in budget: powerbank (i have f62 with 7000mah & i can confirm. It never dies)
Samsung in flagship: no battery backup.
Your presentation is always amazing
Thanks.
Aperture is the most important thing when it comes to camera
Moto comes f/1.4 on the other hand s23fe comes with f/1.8
Which you can get on any other phone under 30k
Great comparison as always. I have a question, what app are you guys using to check fps in games?
Can't share trade secrets. Haha
Kidding. Takostats.
@@TrakinTechEnglish Thank you :) you are doing really great job and your videos are unique
@@TrakinTechEnglishhuawei pura ultra 70 ka review kar do 🙌🙌🙌🙌
What a communication level 🙌🏻,I hope I will do same
I have a doubt that you kept "CrystalTalk AI" on during the video sample recording. Please clear this. Thanks.
Nah. That's only for calls.
Is 5 hrs of sot really enough..i charge during bed time..during day time i barely have time to charge my phone..
Consider that the Samsung battery will also degrade faster than the one of Motorola, as that's a side effect of heating up more.
Lol. Bro you still living in 2017 😂😂.
@@fa14bi-78 in real life usage motorola heats much more than samsung and heating of battery affects its percentage not its life
@@ashwinsingh9336 Heating causes faster battery drainage, but this is pretty much due to higher power consumption.
And a hotter battery ages faster.
Depending on the battery, per 10°C more you have on your battery, it ages 2-3 Times faster.
My Moto edge 30U managed to run Genshin for 3 hours straight, not dropping in frames, while screen recording it in FHD 60 the entire time.
And the battery temperature after all of that stress was just 39°C
TBH i'll pick edge 50 pro and save my money and s23 fe is for 55k and olny through hdfc card i can get it around 45k but how the f i can get this for 35k broo
Yeah bro, I too get confused. In Samsung website S23 FE price is 40K.