Ummm. Was this comment saying that he is a snake oil salesman? If not, what the fk do you mean to say....or to mply.....then ? If ya have something to say. bro, well then just fkn say it.....
@@wzortrex Wow, you're really not too smart, are you. You may want to try re-watching the video and then get back to me my Friend. Or don't, it's up to you.
I love these videos, would be great if you could, at some point, do a video to explain stereo to mono summing circuits for people wanting to use stereo amplifier boards for mono bluetooth speakers.
They need to make a 3 way version of this speaker and add a midrange. That way the woofer doesn't have to play so high and the tweeter doesn't have to go too low.
What comes to mind is Wharfedale Evo 4.2, as well as Monoprice Monolith THX 365T... for which surprisingly most reviews seem to place the BRX higher up the ladder than either of the other two. So yeah, I already own two of them and am looking to get the 3rd in order to hear all three head-2-head.
Hey, is there a dollar amount at which these manufactures stop shoveling cheese into these boxes? 10,000, 20,000, 100,000? When do the manufactures put in quality parts and wiring or do they ever?
Danny has covered this topic before, but when you include parts cost, R&D, marketing, retail markup.. the only way to make these speakers competitive for the average person is use cheaper parts. If Golden Ear were to use high grade component in their crossovers, this speaker would have to retail well over $2000, probably closer to $2500, which is a lot of for a bookshelf speaker, and the average person may not fully really appreciate the improvement this would make.
it would be really interesting to hear a before/after demo of speakers that get an upgrade. AKG414's do a fantastic job of getting great sound. Playing an A/B with the sent-in speaker before upgrading and a GR Research comparative system would be neat too. After upgrade might sound too similar, but it would be cool to hear GR Research system played A/B with the Sacred Cows Danny takes out back and shoots, then upgrades where possible.
Danny, it would be great to have a catalogue of your videos and all the brands you've done upgrades/kits for. So any speaker im looking at i could look up on GR Research and find it taken apart, pros and cons, and then forget them and order some GR Research speakers!!
Between Dad and I there are four cars around here that have seen track duty. This one is a favorite though. I'm driving the S-10. czcams.com/video/7XiNDKgG-M4/video.html
what good is all this if one can't buy the best speaker you offer other than a kit ?? I'm 68 yrs old, forget about soldering, screwing, or mapping !! Please offer alternative. Thanks..
Great video. Upgrade price is very reasonable given the amount of research you've done. Wouldn't it make sense to fix the mounting of the air coils onto a board so that the user can't muff up the intra coil cross coupling.
I got a laugh out of it when he mentioned competing in the senior events. A picture of Danny running against 80 year old and 90 year old in walkers and wheelchairs. When I realized I’m over 55 years old I remember seeing the sign in the hardware store discounts for seniors 55 and older lol 🤣 👴🏻
Between Dad and I there are four cars around here that have seen track duty. This one is a favorite though. I'm driving the S-10. czcams.com/video/7XiNDKgG-M4/video.html
@@dannyrichie9743 jesus... lol. That truck hooks hard. What's your time in that truck? Is that the one I saw next to the vette? How the heck do you get an S10 to hook like that?
Why no measurements of the stock crossover vs. the upgraded crossover like you do with all other speakers? It would be a great way to sell upgrade kits if there was a visual representation of the improvement the upgraded parts make.
@@dannyrichie9743 Won't a change in quality of parts be measurable in the waterfall, as in removing smearing and helping with ringing? I would think that would be measurable.
@@NotOnYourLife No, the water fall plots will just show settling time of the drivers. Capacitors can have a smearing effect, but it is a quick smear of the charge and discharge of the cap. It doesn't ring on for many mili-seconds like what we see in the spectral decay.
Love your educational vids! Have you done one where you explain why not to use magnetic speaker terminals? I've only been watching for a few months, so may have missed it. Thanks for everything you do.
From what I have gathered anything ferromagnetic in the signal path can smear the sound because it’s stores energy. When the signal Peak goes the other way that stored energy drops in a finite amount of time and dissipates into the Signal through induction. This is the same reason you don’t want Iron Core Inductors on your tweeters or mid range drivers. The response to the signal is slower due to the stored flux in the iron core. Hope that helps.
@@George.___ Thanks George, that sounds like a good explanation. I wondered 'coz I know someone who uses magnets (all with the same orientation) on his cables to improve sound quality; but when I tried it I found that the fine details start disappearing (he says it is more holographic). I hope to explain what is happening.
I had a dream last night that a bear suddenly appeared, I ran pretty fast once I got the message to my legs... The real weird thing is we don't have bears in Australia (not the chasing type anyway).
Please, someone send Danny a pair of Sony APM33-s! Let's see what he can say about the xover in this already great flat□driver loudspeaker! I have a pair (it's custom finished in piano laquire and a real hidden gem!), but can't ship it from Europe. Thanks!
Danny, I wish you could explain WHY ferromagnetic nuts on the the inputs would have any effect on the signal when there is no current passing THROUGH the ferromagnetic material. This doesn't make electrical sense to me.
Everybody seems to be raving about the Magnat Transpuls 1500 as something of an extraordinary bargain for the money. Would you consider looking at them? I think a lot of audiophiles would really appreciate hearing your thoughts on them. I'd be one of them for sure!
I had the legacy studio monitors. Really crappy internals. I was suppose to upgrade them but so much parts inside really bad ones too. And that switch does not help.
Danny, can you dissect a crossover for a speaker by just seeing the manufacturers’s crossover pictures? Or do you need an actual speaker. Perhaps you tell us this in a future video
Mapping an existing crossover (creating a schematic) does not require having the speaker. It is best done by physical inspecting the crossover. Having the crossover in possession, allows for individual components to be measured in instances where their values are not labeled (common with inductors). If all components are labeled with values, than their connections can be mapped using quality photos of front and back.
I do not like folded ribbon tweeters because they spew out the high frequencies at unnaturally high speed. They crew up high frequencies and then spit them out at you. I think they are horribly unmusical. I bought a pair of Emotiva mini-monitors and had to return them.
Their applications are limited, with minimal extension downward, and if you increase their size they exhibit beaming. That said, I've heard some that were fantastic. If one's so inclined, I'd examine Mundorf, or Adam/HEDD ... these seem to be some of the finest examples.
No, that requires the cap values to be really large and can affect the rest of the circuit. It is better to use a small coupling cap in the input side of the amp. I covered it in a video a few weeks ago.
can you connect your speaker to compare with cheap mundorf 47uf Mcap tin cap(white.color) vs 47uf Mcap Alum vs 47uf Mcap supreme silver oil vs 47uf Mcap Supreme silver/gold/oil EVO. Does it sound different ! Live Video have ? 😍😍. ( can u do a video with that can ? It will be very Fun to try )
Good Sir. You are a dyed in the Wool sand-cast resistor hater.. I have watched literally dozens, plural, of your videos. I get it about air coil indictors, as Dahlquist and Polk did. I also believe that PPE caps are better than mylar ....,....which are better, long term than NPEs. Would you PLEASE explain the difference between a 2 ohm PE sandcast resistor, with gold plated leads., for like a buck fifty...... and a Mills Resistor, at 5 times the cost. They are both wirewound, yes ? Is the sandcast rewsistor more inductive ? How exactly. good Sir ?
can you connect your speaker to compare with cheap mundorf 47uf Mcap tin cap(white.color) vs 47uf Mcap Alum vs 47uf Mcap supreme silver oil vs 47uf Mcap Supreme silver/gold/oil EVO. Does it sound different ! Live Video have ? 😍😍. ( can u do a video with that can ? It will be very Fun to try )......🤔🤔🤔🤔
Bought Focal Cobalt 816, sounded great in the store, but mine have never sounded right, don’t get me wrong, instrumental pieces are great, but rock sucks ( like they suck out the mid bass) tried cables, room placement, amps and DSP. Still the same. Every review I see on CZcams is some instrumental music never rock, anything that can be done to fix these speakers?
Mr. Danny, you using green Dayton Audio resistors? 🤔 Dayton Audio very good resistors made, better only Mills resistors, but Mills have price 6-7$,Dayton Audio only 1.59 $.
Their new resistors are Copper and have no ferromagnetic parts. So they are not bad, and no one can get any Mills resistors right now, so they are a pretty good alternative.
@@dannyrichie9743 Green resistors very similar to Dayton Audio and Visaton resistors. Mr. Danny for cheap speakers best choice Rubycon MPB capacitors, but only H version. Because H version have minimal tolerance +-3%.This japan🇯🇵 film capacitors have very good quality and low price. Don't forget about Rubycon famous Japan company, which made capacitors. For speakers 1500$-4000$, best choice Auricap (version XO) capacitors, this American 🇺🇸 capacitors have absolutely neutral sound, very balanced and good capacitors and have good price! 👍 For top speakers best choice Audyn True Copper Max capacitors. Audyn True Copper Max amazing capacitors made in Germany 🇩🇪 . And two ✌️ nuances . Inductor coils need use only film, no wire.. Film inductor coils make sound absolutely clean and big mistake use one big capacitors. Need use more quantity low volume capacitors. For example, for you need 6.6 uF, perfect use 6 caps, which have 1.1 uF volume. Have a good day to you Mr. Danny! 👍
Hmmm, actually this one got a lot of phrase. The goal here is two fold. 1) Improve the music listening experience. 2) Introduce people to the DIY side of the hobby.
@@dannyrichie9743 jk i am also diy guy and i m not an audiophile i m just here to gain some knowledge i was joking there nothing serious buddy i like what u doing giving us insights keep doing the great work 👍
I. Just got a prv. Crossover. 97.00 $ ,,hi Bob old guy , here. From. Parts ex press. Doing a project with ,, Tandy, radio shack. Drivers new in box I baught them years ago, with a bunch of other drivers ,, audio bahn woofers, and 12in. Sub thumpers...
The only thing faster than Danny's crossovers is Danny himself !!!
Ummm. Was this comment saying that he is a snake oil salesman?
If not, what the fk do you mean to say....or to mply.....then ?
If ya have something to say. bro, well then just fkn say it.....
@@wzortrex Wow, you're really not too smart, are you. You may want to try re-watching the video and then get back to me my Friend. Or don't, it's up to you.
Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
Tennessee Ernie Ford.
That you will comment positively on what you think works well is a testament to your honesty.
Thank you !! ..nice to hear of other interests and passions ...all the best 🌈❤✌
I love these videos, would be great if you could, at some point, do a video to explain stereo to mono summing circuits for people wanting to use stereo amplifier boards for mono bluetooth speakers.
Next t-shirt should be " Well, there's some cheese"
🤏🧀📻👀Funny!🤣
I was thinking, "No cheese for me please"
"We'll be taking a look at another pair of Klipsch speakers" That's another common thing you say 🤣
They need to make a 3 way version of this speaker and add a midrange. That way the woofer doesn't have to play so high and the tweeter doesn't have to go too low.
I always wonder especially when they are DIY... The SWAN 3.1 would be a HUGE value with Danny. I will send if no one else does.
@@dilbyjones aaaaaaand?
you can easily do that adding a sub and crossing the signal over
@@net_news Nope, that won't be anything like Random Tube suggests. What you are suggesting would be need on top of that suggested by Random Tube.
What comes to mind is Wharfedale Evo 4.2, as well as Monoprice Monolith THX 365T... for which surprisingly most reviews seem to place the BRX higher up the ladder than either of the other two. So yeah, I already own two of them and am looking to get the 3rd in order to hear all three head-2-head.
Hey, is there a dollar amount at which these manufactures stop shoveling cheese into these boxes? 10,000, 20,000, 100,000? When do the manufactures put in quality parts and wiring or do they ever?
Danny has covered this topic before, but when you include parts cost, R&D, marketing, retail markup.. the only way to make these speakers competitive for the average person is use cheaper parts. If Golden Ear were to use high grade component in their crossovers, this speaker would have to retail well over $2000, probably closer to $2500, which is a lot of for a bookshelf speaker, and the average person may not fully really appreciate the improvement this would make.
I'm glad I found your channel! You're making me think a lot before I purchase more loudspeakers!
it would be really interesting to hear a before/after demo of speakers that get an upgrade. AKG414's do a fantastic job of getting great sound. Playing an A/B with the sent-in speaker before upgrading and a GR Research comparative system would be neat too. After upgrade might sound too similar, but it would be cool to hear GR Research system played A/B with the Sacred Cows Danny takes out back and shoots, then upgrades where possible.
Danny, it would be great to have a catalogue of your videos and all the brands you've done upgrades/kits for. So any speaker im looking at i could look up on GR Research and find it taken apart, pros and cons, and then forget them and order some GR Research speakers!!
Let's see your drag car! 🏎🚘🔥
Between Dad and I there are four cars around here that have seen track duty. This one is a favorite though. I'm driving the S-10. czcams.com/video/7XiNDKgG-M4/video.html
@@dannyrichie9743
Hey that's pretty cool! 👍
Somthing tells me that's not a factory S-10 engine in that rocket! 🚀🙂
@@erikparent8176 The only thing that is a real S-10 is the body.
what good is all this if one can't buy the best speaker you offer other than a kit ?? I'm 68 yrs old, forget about soldering, screwing, or mapping !! Please offer alternative. Thanks..
I'm interested in this upgrade. But no way am I doing it! Do you know of anyone in S Florida who would do this? Thanks Danny
Great video.
Upgrade price is very reasonable given the amount of research you've done.
Wouldn't it make sense to fix the mounting of the air coils onto a board so that the user can't muff up the intra coil cross coupling.
I got a laugh out of it when he mentioned competing in the senior events. A picture of Danny running against 80 year old and 90 year old in walkers and wheelchairs. When I realized I’m over 55 years old I remember seeing the sign in the hardware store discounts for seniors 55 and older lol 🤣 👴🏻
Ha Ha! You are old.
That's a little consolation. -from a 63 y/o.😁
Danny is legitimately really quick. He will honestly surprise you
Congrats Danny on being the fastest Electrical Engineer on the planet. ;-)
Another good one, Danny.
Congrats Danny! A job well done!
The upgrade is first class
Maybe make it an outboard x-over, in an acrylic case........love how they look (but not for everyone, I'm sure)
You rock Danny, what an inspiration!!!
You should completely show your awesome dragsters. Also people don't understand how quick you are.
Between Dad and I there are four cars around here that have seen track duty. This one is a favorite though. I'm driving the S-10. czcams.com/video/7XiNDKgG-M4/video.html
@@dannyrichie9743 jesus... lol. That truck hooks hard. What's your time in that truck? Is that the one I saw next to the vette? How the heck do you get an S10 to hook like that?
@@ufarkingicehole I think that pass was just a 5.79 at 119 mph (1/8 mile). Oh, it'll hook...
Why no measurements of the stock crossover vs. the upgraded crossover like you do with all other speakers? It would be a great way to sell upgrade kits if there was a visual representation of the improvement the upgraded parts make.
They measure the same. I didn't change anything about the design. It is just a parts quality upgrade, wire, and tube connectors.
@@dannyrichie9743 Won't a change in quality of parts be measurable in the waterfall, as in removing smearing and helping with ringing? I would think that would be measurable.
@@NotOnYourLife No, the water fall plots will just show settling time of the drivers. Capacitors can have a smearing effect, but it is a quick smear of the charge and discharge of the cap. It doesn't ring on for many mili-seconds like what we see in the spectral decay.
Love your educational vids! Have you done one where you explain why not to use magnetic speaker terminals? I've only been watching for a few months, so may have missed it. Thanks for everything you do.
From what I have gathered anything ferromagnetic in the signal path can smear the sound because it’s stores energy. When the signal Peak goes the other way that stored energy drops in a finite amount of time and dissipates into the Signal through induction.
This is the same reason you don’t want Iron Core Inductors on your tweeters or mid range drivers. The response to the signal is slower due to the stored flux in the iron core.
Hope that helps.
@@George.___ Thanks George, that sounds like a good explanation. I wondered 'coz I know someone who uses magnets (all with the same orientation) on his cables to improve sound quality; but when I tried it I found that the fine details start disappearing (he says it is more holographic). I hope to explain what is happening.
Guess their marketing department showed demand for that style tweeter. The Golden Ear is just Fools Gold. Thanks Sensei!
In his first video of this speaker, it seems to be an excellent product. More gold than fools...
I had a dream last night that a bear suddenly appeared, I ran pretty fast once I got the message to my legs... The real weird thing is we don't have bears in Australia (not the chasing type anyway).
Please, someone send Danny a pair of Sony APM33-s! Let's see what he can say about the xover in this already great flat□driver loudspeaker! I have a pair (it's custom finished in piano laquire and a real hidden gem!), but can't ship it from Europe.
Thanks!
Have you ever broken down the GE Triton One.R's? Curious of the internal build quality, especially the crossover components.
Danny, I wish you could explain WHY ferromagnetic nuts on the the inputs would have any effect on the signal when there is no current passing THROUGH the ferromagnetic material. This doesn't make electrical sense to me.
There is current passing through those parts.
Everybody seems to be raving about the Magnat Transpuls 1500 as something of an extraordinary bargain for the money. Would you consider looking at them? I think a lot of audiophiles would really appreciate hearing your thoughts on them. I'd be one of them for sure!
Take a look at the actual frequency response. Not pretty. That why subjective reviews mean nothing. Objective measurement are hard to argue.
Have you done Legacy Monitors? I thought their build quality was excellent in cabinet and electronics.
I had the legacy studio monitors. Really crappy internals. I was suppose to upgrade them but so much parts inside really bad ones too. And that switch does not help.
I hate speakers made with cheese parts.
I want some of the Gouda Stuff!
What's your opinion about vintage bang and olufsen speaker beovox s45.2 speaker? Are you familiar with the phase link technology on the crossover?
I am wondering if the air core inductors have polarity.
You should record sound from non upgraded speaker and from upgraded
Do the Aircore coils in the upgrade match the DCR of the originals for the mid-woofer? Thanks..
The next question is what woofer would you use to replace the original to better handle the range?
I know you won't like the price, but a Scan Speak Revelator could improve things.
Danny, can you dissect a crossover for a speaker by just seeing the manufacturers’s crossover pictures? Or do you need an actual speaker. Perhaps you tell us this in a future video
Mapping an existing crossover (creating a schematic) does not require having the speaker. It is best done by physical inspecting the crossover. Having the crossover in possession, allows for individual components to be measured in instances where their values are not labeled (common with inductors). If all components are labeled with values, than their connections can be mapped using quality photos of front and back.
I do not like folded ribbon tweeters because they spew out the high frequencies at unnaturally high speed. They crew up high frequencies and then spit them out at you. I think they are horribly unmusical. I bought a pair of Emotiva mini-monitors and had to return them.
Definitely sounds different.
Their applications are limited, with minimal extension downward, and if you increase their size they exhibit beaming.
That said, I've heard some that were fantastic.
If one's so inclined, I'd examine Mundorf, or Adam/HEDD ... these seem to be some of the finest examples.
Is the woofer showing an signs of distortion at the top of its operating range?
Danny, do you ever do passive high pass cross overs for book shelf’s? Like 80hz high pass? Thanks for everything you do!
No, that requires the cap values to be really large and can affect the rest of the circuit. It is better to use a small coupling cap in the input side of the amp. I covered it in a video a few weeks ago.
@@dannyrichie9743 something like the FMOD from Harrison labs?
@@MRB1910 Yes, but those are fairly low quality and the ratings are deceiving. The filter range really depends on the input impedance of your amp.
Just get an ELAC Vela 403. They leave out the cheese for only the best parts.
I’m all about that t-shirt, let us know when it’s posted to the site (don’t see it yet)!
They should be up on the site tomorrow.
Alright Danny
can you connect your speaker to compare with cheap mundorf 47uf Mcap tin cap(white.color) vs 47uf Mcap Alum vs 47uf Mcap supreme silver oil vs 47uf Mcap Supreme silver/gold/oil EVO. Does it sound different ! Live Video have ? 😍😍. ( can u do a video with that can ? It will be very Fun to try )
Those caps all do sound very different.
Good Sir. You are a dyed in the Wool sand-cast resistor hater.. I have watched literally dozens, plural, of your videos. I get it about air coil indictors, as Dahlquist and Polk did. I also believe that PPE caps are better than mylar ....,....which are better, long term than NPEs. Would you PLEASE explain the difference between a 2 ohm PE sandcast resistor, with gold plated leads., for like a buck fifty...... and a Mills Resistor, at 5 times the cost. They are both wirewound, yes ? Is the sandcast rewsistor more inductive ? How exactly. good Sir ?
Just listen to them and compare them and you will answer your own question.
Does a passive radiator really make much difference on bookshelf speakers?
It serves the same function as a port, just in a different way.
Let's go Brandon!
Now THAT t-shirt would sell millions ... about half the country.
can you connect your speaker to compare with cheap mundorf 47uf Mcap tin cap(white.color) vs 47uf Mcap Alum vs 47uf Mcap supreme silver oil vs 47uf Mcap Supreme silver/gold/oil EVO. Does it sound different ! Live Video have ? 😍😍. ( can u do a video with that can ? It will be very Fun to try )......🤔🤔🤔🤔
Do you shop at Traitor Joe's ?,,,lol
derp
Anyone got any links to the effects on current through ferromagnetics?
Do you have any upgrades to dahlquist dq-10s?
All his upgrade-kits is listed on his website.
If you want your speaker evaluated, you need to ship it to him.
Not sure what Danny has, or doesn’t have, but there's mountains of tweaking information on DQ-10s out there.
Bought Focal Cobalt 816, sounded great in the store, but mine have never sounded right, don’t get me wrong, instrumental pieces are great, but rock sucks ( like they suck out the mid bass) tried cables, room placement, amps and DSP. Still the same. Every review I see on CZcams is some instrumental music never rock, anything that can be done to fix these speakers?
Send one in and I'll take a look at it.
So how do they sound now buddy?
Do you think is it possible to hear any different when its not possible to measure ?
Absolutely. There is a lot of audible differences that are very difficult to measure.
Silly question - I assume you've heard the C-Notes. Do you think there is any point in upgrading those x-overs? Thanks :)
I think you'd be better off starting over with a better speaker. Even our Desktop Mini is a pretty big step up.
@@dannyrichie9743 Yeah. I built the C-Notes before I found your channel...
@@Take-the-Ticket Nice little starter speaker, but if you want to step things up then you may want to start over.
Should I buy this speaker or the Revel M126Be ?
If you haven't bought either yet, then you might want to consider some of our DIY kits.
I can't find the t shirt on the website? Did you sell out already?
It will be up shortly.
The manufactures must be piss at him?
Ah, Wulfenbach again.
Mr. Danny, you using green Dayton Audio resistors? 🤔 Dayton Audio very good resistors made, better only Mills resistors, but Mills have price 6-7$,Dayton Audio only 1.59 $.
Their new resistors are Copper and have no ferromagnetic parts. So they are not bad, and no one can get any Mills resistors right now, so they are a pretty good alternative.
@@dannyrichie9743 Green resistors very similar to Dayton Audio and Visaton resistors. Mr. Danny for cheap speakers best choice Rubycon MPB capacitors, but only H version. Because H version have minimal tolerance +-3%.This japan🇯🇵 film capacitors have very good quality and low price. Don't forget about Rubycon famous Japan company, which made capacitors. For speakers 1500$-4000$, best choice Auricap (version XO) capacitors, this American 🇺🇸 capacitors have absolutely neutral sound, very balanced and good capacitors and have good price! 👍 For top speakers best choice Audyn True Copper Max capacitors. Audyn True Copper Max amazing capacitors made in Germany 🇩🇪 . And two ✌️ nuances . Inductor coils need use only film, no wire.. Film inductor coils make sound absolutely clean and big mistake use one big capacitors. Need use more quantity low volume capacitors. For example, for you need 6.6 uF, perfect use 6 caps, which have 1.1 uF volume. Have a good day to you Mr. Danny! 👍
Sandy Gross is going to get upset on his creation.
I checked those out at my local dealer. I thought the whole damn speaker was cheese.
U like to bash someone else product and promote urs 😂
Hmmm, actually this one got a lot of phrase.
The goal here is two fold.
1) Improve the music listening experience.
2) Introduce people to the DIY side of the hobby.
@@dannyrichie9743 jk i am also diy guy and i m not an audiophile i m just here to gain some knowledge i was joking there nothing serious buddy i like what u doing giving us insights keep doing the great work 👍
I. Just got a prv. Crossover. 97.00 $ ,,hi Bob old guy , here. From. Parts ex press. Doing a project with ,, Tandy, radio shack. Drivers new in box I baught them years ago, with a bunch of other drivers ,, audio bahn woofers, and 12in. Sub thumpers...