Testing a New Polishing Method (No Power Tools!)
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- In this video I'm trying out a new polishing method that one of my viewers described to me. It doesn't require any fancy tools or equipment. No power tools, no air tools, just a bit of elbow grease. It didn't work very well for me, but it's definitely an interesting concept.
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love the honesty, youre a human and not an advertisement, its awesome!
Thanks man. I don’t do these to be in marketing haha.
That's a solid idea about beers and tools segments....however I have to say throughout this video that glass had the same level of beer and didn't change lol.
I still have my drill from the late 80/s early 90 engine building.,it still has chevy orange engine paint on it...come to think of it that chevy orange would be cool on one of my tele/s...thanks bud...rock on
Thank you
An episodic show called Heavy Drinking and Power Tools might be even funnier.
Funnier yes, more helpful? I think not haha.
Followed immediately by the 7-fingered shop decontamination special.
Thank you for all the great content and showing methods for the "common" man lol. You rock buddy
Thanks Don. Glad you like the content.
Brad, there is oatmeal in it. The hot water is steeped in it, along with the other grains and the "starch" produced reacts like sugar with the yeast creating alcohol. I make guitars and brew beer!
Awesome. I love a good oatmeal stout. Or a good coffee stout... the list goes on.
You, Sir, are making the world a better place! Thank you!
I think that's the coolest list of jobs ever
Hey Brad, nice intro to this different method! Thanks for the demo/try. This looks like a good start and next step over to the buffer (as you said).
Are you using the Austor paper? Looks like another good product to try - thanks for the links!
I believe so. This paper isn’t great honestly.
Hey Brad!
Brad, thanks for the video. It may not have worked the way you wanted, and a buffer will always be superior. My last build was a Bass, I used Rustoleum automotive enamel white and clear using your methods. I sanded up to 2000 grit, and polished by hand with DuPont polishing compound. After that, I buffed it good with some good ol' turtle wax, and it came out fantastic, glossy and all, but you do have to use a lot of elbow grease. You can feel the heat from the friction. I think using the polish on the sandpaper is counter productive.
Yeah, the polish and paper method is interesting in theory but I’m not sure it makes all that much sense. The viewer who showed it to me seemed to get good results though. Hopefully I haven’t done it completely wrong haha.
thats not too bad. i have some silk matte spray lacquer that appears a high gloss when wet sanded to 3k grit. this woul probably be good for that.... but i mostly work on smaller stuff these days, so i just use a buffing wheel and compound on a dremel or lathe.
First don't get paint dust in that delicious beer. Second, I would love to see you do another part of this guitar using the same products and a little power, see if it finishes up better.
I’ve demonstrated these products before on a different guitar if that helps. With power.
Amazing 😉 bro
You make always helpful 💙 video so I love your videos always love from India 🇮🇳 keep
Thank you
"If you don't have a drill...get a drill!" Words of wisdom haha. Thanks for these videos Brad. And if you start the Pints and Power Tools I'll subscribe to that one too...
Haha thanks Ken
This looks good but I'm slowly starting to develop allergy to hand standing so I'll look up how to buff with some power
Thanks for the college try
Cheers!
Haha yeah, hand sanding is almost no finisher’s favourite I think.
I love oatmeal stout. I did not realize that it was a health drink. I may live forever. Thanks Brad!
Must be a health drink! Nice and heavy, has oatmeal, kills off slower brain cells to let the rest move faster... I’m going to die young haha.
It looks like a much better surface than with p3000 alone. The concept makes a lot of sense. It’s a good lubricant to “wet” sand with. My guess is if you started with a fresh guitar, did the whole thing and moved up to 6000-8000 grit that when you stopped sanding it would be easy to hand polish the rest. Good work, as usual,
Thanks Michael. Usually it’s not too hard to hand polish up at those grits even with the lubricant. I may have to do more testing.
Staining a bare wood guitar with Stout 🤘🏻
I've always done that with car polish/wax and 1000-3000 paper grit with a 500 step increment, then just polish and no paper at the end and had super results. Well, can't say it's factory-grade since I can never get rid of the final circular "print mark" from my polishing process, but apart from that it's glossy as glass :)
You just need a quick final buff with swirl remover.
There is absolutely oatmeal in an oatmeal stout. The high oil content in the oats makes for a luscious creamy texture.
Excellent
Hi Brad, Your videos are great and very helpful. I'm building a double-neck guitar from a kit (as soon as USPS delivers it) and I plan to paint it with Duplicolor followed by the 2K clear coat. I intend to use decals on the headstocks to customize it with my own "brand." Do I put the decal on and then 2K over it? Or does the decal go on after the clear coat is on and dry? Thanks for your advice!
I generally would sexual under the clear coat.
@@BradAngove Thanks! Interesting spellcheck correction: "decal" becomes "sexual." !!!
Hey Brad,
There's a fellow CZcamsr Steve Wallis he does a camping/boondocking VLOG he also does that simular weight lifting Steve calls it "step 2" (as you call it, 'healrh tip excuse to drink beer on videos') he also is a Canadian . Canadians helping Canadians.
I'm just saying...
Best David
It’s Tyler!
Thanks for this.
Could you do a video on tru oil?
Have a look at my videos in Mohawks modified tung oil. It’s applied the same way.
@@BradAngove thank you! I will :)
I can't believe Matt hasn't chimed in with a "Matt comment about Coors Light"
Matt’s health tip: drink water out of a beer can instead of beer! Haha
@@BradAngove oh, but isn't that what coors light is?
How would you polish a matt finish? I'm aiming for a matt finish over glitter, using montana cans.
You can polish a matte finish. It won’t be matte anymore.
How did it feel at various stages? I am wondering if it would be a good way to get a smooth fast satin neck on poly?
Pretty good, but I have another items for a beautifully smoky satin neck that I will be demonstrating soon.
Pints & Power Tools... I'd watch the heck out of that Brad...
Oh, by the way, I got the Toasters onto proper beer a few weeks ago... Don't know if you caught their live stream on Mrs Toasts birthday, but I sent them a care package of proper Guinness all the way from rainy old Ireland... I don't think they were prepared for it's strength :-D
Oh the real stuff! Nice. I pretty much lived in Guinness last time I was out there.
@@BradAngove It's grand stuff mate... If you ever come back, you have an open invitation to come to BTLX Guitars and share my stash of Irish Stout...
Sounds like a dangerous game!
@@BradAngove Yeah, but in this game, everyone's a winner LOL
Not gonna get the high gloss, but it sure looks super smooth. Maybe you could try to buff by hand to see how it goes. Super fine polish and a rag could work. The color on this guitar is stunning BTW.
I have to recommend against microfibre for polishing. It almost always seems to leave scratches. Soft cotton is a safer option.
@@BradAngove Yeah, now that I remember I had a bad experience with microfiber. Anything has the potential to scratch the finish, but sometimes a piece of an old cotton t-shirt can do wonders.
One more layer... Nu Finish Scratch Doctor, with a dry cloth... and I bet it looks pretty close to glass.
Probably. A simple finish buff at this stage with polish would probably do it.
Would this work to put an even satin finish on a neck?
Yes, but it wouldn’t be my first choice. I will be putting out a video soon on my favourite product for taking a neck finish from gloss to a beautiful satin.
I'm all for saving a buck whenever I can but honestly a drill and buffing wheel or a buffer itself aren't really expensive at all and the process is faster and easier I'd actually argue it's worth the extra money just to not have to spend as much time or effort using this method sometimes you just have to suck it up and pay the money
I have to agree with that. But if you are doing it by hand, do your sanding first and then polish the crap out of it, and your results will be better. Using a buffer is better for sure.
@@jthonn ya ive buffed out a lot of finishes with a buffing cloth or microfiber cloth and buffing compound mostly for things like pool cues where using a buffer just doesn't make a ton of sense you'd be surprised what you can accomplish wet sanding to 2000 grit then buffing by hand with a rag
Ya, this method would have been cool if it worked, but it’s pretty easy to justify picking up a little buffing kit for the drill. It’s probably cheaper than the compound.
Ya a few years ago I went to AutoZone and picked up come cut and buff compound and polishing compound and the foam buffing attachment I think i paid about $30 for the whole setup and I had enough materials to polish a lot of guitars and pool cues I remember the first day I did two guitars and 3 cues and I barely made a dent in the bottles if you do the math you're basically paying pennies on the dollar per guitar if you just do it the conventional way
I've been able to get results like that (maybe a little better, it's hard to tell from the vid) using those melamine "magic sponges" and water wrapped around a piece of rubber block. I think that they must be a grit equivalent to something between 3000 and 4000, but I guess it depends on the brand or manufacture of the "sponge".
That actually makes a lot of sense. Very interesting!
What grit did you scuff with?
At what stage?
I just ordered an 11" Shinto rasp from Solo Guitars. Too bad I didn't know you were an affiliate, I'd have used your link. Sorry pal! If I ever order from them again, I'll keep you in mind. They just happened to be the only place I could find it in stock at a reasonable price in all of North America.
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I hope you enjoy your rasp; they are great.
This looks similar to another polishing kit by behlen/mohawk that you actually included in a giveaway of yours a few months ago. You have also done a product review of that kit and it seemed to work better that this one
Ya, this isn’t quite a kit but both systems work. Just not using this technique haha. I used the Mohawk kit on lacquer, which in fairness is a bit softer and easier to polish.
Well if theres oatmeal in it I guess you can have it for breakfast then man! Lol
It goes great with pancakes...
@@BradAngove 😂😂I bet it does!
Nice to know this doesn't work, will be going with the wax method you demo'd a while back
Nice. I hope it goes well.
Unrelated to sanding, I know you shouldn't paint oil based paint when it rains, but what about water based paint if I'm under a covered area?
Humidity can impact most paint types, so I would be hesitant to do that. It’s worse with lacquer though. Oil based paints aren’t necessarily as much of an issue.
@@BradAngove I'm sorry, I realized after I sent this i fight to mention is be using water based. Then I got in a hurry to get started
I've done this before but it kills your sandpaper unless you wash the compound out afterwards. Its perfect for spot polishing and mobile car paint correction guys use this method without the beer as that will lose your driving licence quickly...
Thanks for the info Stu.
To bad it didn't work... O well, I'll stick to letting the machine do the work! Thanks bro 🎸🎸👍
Aren't you supposed to use the polishing compound by itself on a cloth?
Usually yes. That’s why this technique is unusual
Man you should do a video when u play guitar!
I’ve done several when I demo my builds.
There is actually oatmeal in the mash.
Yum
@@BradAngove I'm a homebrewer and registered beer judge, and have brewed and judged this delightful brew.
Oatmeal stout is among my favorites without question.
Being half German, I've always had a guarded respect for the Polish. All Polish.
I take it you’re one of these guys that says “pawlish”...
That reminds me of a joke...
@@BradAngove Indeed I am.
Sorry I can't drink beer and get into guitar polishing... I keep getting the urge for a car chase or shoot out or something. lol
That escalated quickly haha
Oatmeal makes good hair product too, allegedly.
...allegedly... haha
Honestly, you know what, I would say we should consider this like training wheels for someone who isn't as confident with wet/dry or accidentally sands through the finish, but still wants to decrease that margin of error.
This will help as a good lubricant I think, but you're still going to need to finish it up with buffing compound and swirl remover, followed by a carnauba to finish.
Ya, it could potentially reduce the sand through risk I guess.
I also noticed a steep increase in number of advertisers as soon as you added Step 2, is it Step 2 that caused the increase? Things that make me go hmmmmm....
Best David,
Is this a ASMR vid too, yikes lots of new 'methods here-in'
I have no idea how the ads work on this stuff honestly haha.
@@BradAngove
As always Brad
love your stuff great talent and applied careful skill I think you are a very good guitar builder a talented guitarist and a very skilled painter
All the best my friend
David
Ha next time I'll talk about your really great atributes but for now I don't want your head to get so swelled up you can't wear your favorite ball cap without setting it up looser
My grandma drinks coors light.
My great grandma used to drink Budweiser. I liked her anyway.
32nd.
lol....Won't be using that then 😂
Nope haha
could you polish a car like this?
I don’t even think you can properly polish a guitar like this.
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BRAD,
However there is a great CZcamsr mechanic Derek of Vice Grip Garage , he calls those health drinks wobble pops but whatever's your reason , cheer's & down the hatch. Sailor I used the hatch sailor connection, I can do that I was in the navy. Ha ha ha.
Merry Christmas
David
Another fellow CZcamsr , & Canadian Steve Wallis , camping & boondocking calls those health drinks, "Step 2" so those from the Great White North have a long and stout history of health drinks or whatever you might call them, 🍺 cheers
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I don't understand using the compound with sandpaper....??!! Those are the instructions from Jescar? I can tell you that I was not in the least surprised by the results. The sandpaper thing is just really strange to me.....lol. Here's my 'logic' on it. If you're using 1500 grit paper with a compound that says it will remove 1500 grit scratches you're simply removing and then re-scratching the surface as you 'polish', no? I mean why would the compound prevent the 1500 grit from doing what it does? I don't get it!!! It might be useful to do another test using the two compounds as you normally would, on a pad with your drill.
Those absolutely were not the instructions from Jescar haha. It was just something one of my viewers showed me and I thought I would test it out.
it is polish (pall-ish) not Polish (po)
See? That's what I was saying....
None more Canadian ... love it!!!
I use American spelling on here so I don’t confuse people, but I don’t intend to start using American pronunciation haha.
Ohhhh! Cringing like hell when I hear the polished back scraping against the workbench! Hahahaha! Even if it is a $10 or $1000 body , you always protect the back...
This body was going directly to the repaint/demo pile, but yes you should of course try to protect the back if doing this for real.
To bad it didn’t work. Always looking for a good way to shine repairs without using the bug wheel. The guitar tech in me cringed every time you slid the guitar on the gritty bench. Please use a pad underneath.
Yeah, I usually keep foam underneath, but I think this guitar is going back into the “demo body” pile anyway haha.
Kind of sound muffled the last couple of videos, are to make out what you say at times, like the name of the products you are using, I have no clue what you are saying.
Muffled? That’s odd. Maybe my mic is dirty. I didn’t notice when I was editing it.
@@BradAngove It almost sounds like the high end is rolled way off and the low end is mostly getting through, like an eq.
Interesting