NASCAR's Best and Worst Gimmicks
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What are some other NASCAR gimmicks you can think of?
The playoffs
The choose cone to me is an example of a good gimmick.
Throwback weekend.
Worst gimmicks
Playoffs and stages
Group qualifying. Good idea, most sports had done it, but never really worked out and just wrecked a lot of cars
The old all star qualifying where they flew down pit road at 170 and tried to stop in their box was easily one of the biggest gimmicks nascar has done but holy hell was it fun to watch
Hell yea they need to bring it back
That's how they used to pit in a race until 1991
pit crews probably dont like it
The idea of under glow telling what lap a car is on is actually genius
The worst gimmick: (in my Vince Welch voice), "tHe cAuTiOn cLoCk."
You mean Cody Ware and Hailie Deegan?
@@Metal_junkI could’ve swore he was meaning Steve Wallace and Brian Vickers
The "Lucky Dog" was introduced via the Gentleman's Agreement, when they stopped racing back to the S/F at caution. If there was a lapped car close by, the leader would tend to slow down and let the lapped car by. That was all replaced with "the lucky dog" since racing back to the line under caution was considered dangerous.
close, but i been watching this since the 50s and i never remember a driver slowing down and letting someone get their lap back, i guess it happened but the real reason was the danger involved in running 200 mph under caution to the start finish line, they lined up according to how they got there, not when the caution came out. lots of infighting and blame during the transition too.
The Lucky Dog isn’t a gimmick. Once they stopped racing back to the caution flag they needed a way to allow cars back on the lead lap.
Was going to say the same thing. Just wish they would have tweaked it a bit to have multiple lucky dog's per caution, but only if they were within a certain time behind the leader.. so it would resemble the leader backing off out of turn 4 and giving the lapped cars their lap back.
Only thing with the Lucky Dog is it should not be given out for a Competition Caution or Stage Cautions. Yellows for actual cause like debris, wrecks and weather should be the only way to earn a Lucky Dog.
I think one of the best gimmicks that NASCAR has introduced is the choose rule. It has changed so many race outcomes, and gives the drivers more of a chance and control on where they restart
In the late 1990s there were rumors that nascar was going to add a new road course, but make it a street race on old blacktop and dirt roads in a rural area of the Carolinas. It was to be a throwback to hauling moonshine.
I would pay good money to see something like that now. Even if it is a gimmick.
Bro I still dream about a Sand/road track on the beaches of Florida.
I have been a fan since 92 and grew up during the internet's infancy and have never heard of this.
The talk was there at Talladega. Probably just a rumor, but there were lots of them. Just like Dodge is coming back to nascar. 😂
maybe you're getting daytona history confused with fan rumors, up until 1959 the daytona race was run down the beach and then up to asphalt, lots of old clips showing them bouncing through the sand dunes.
I think the "super tire" thing could work. Make it similar to F1 and IndyCar, no "handicaps" for the faster tires. Could make strategy more interesting I think
Exactly, having a softer option tire would also allow more complex tire strategies, like when to use them for quicker laps and when to use standard compound for comparative (except for the 2024 Bristol tires) longevity.
Only downside to that is now we have stage breaks and that would pretty much defeat the purpose of it
@@markkeetemanperformance easy solution. Kill stage racing, it sucks
@@BestGuy2103 tell me about it, id rather watch a race go completely green that have mid race breaks
The caution clock is still one of the worst things that's ever been in the sport.
A caution flag is supposed to signal caution, and any abuse of that is a gimmick that goes against the spirit of the rules. That includes racing back to the line.
Stage racing, PLAYOFFS, playoff points... Clearly the Good Idea Fairy hit NASCAR hard...
The Monster Energy girls are still around, usually at Xfinity races - there's one or two with Riley Herbst's team.
that’s what i thought
They hang around Ty Gibbs too, basically anyone sponsored by Monster
@silvy3047 That is what they do in other series and types of motorsports like motorcycle racing. Have them do stuff related to Monster sponsored teams.
@@Dartingleopard Hilariously enough, Fox just returned from a commercial in the Texas Cup race and highlighted the Monster Energy girls!
@@D2RCR That's good to hear. You'd think with how much feminism has taken root that they would be gone completely, after all, nothing says progress for women like removing them from the spotlights or making them cover up lol.
The unique trophies idea is actually brilliant. I love F1's trophies, especially the ones with history like Australia.
I agree, some of the trophies kinda suck but the concept is perfect. I would rather see a noticeably different trophy at every track than the same basic design but with different engraving and ornamentation.
I had a roommate who was one of the No Bull 5 at Daytona in 2000. He didn't win, Ricky Rudd was his driver but he got alot of cool free stuff.
If memory serves, Ryan Newman won the first race after the lucky dog was introduced. He was one who hated the idea, but he was the recipient of a lucky dog that day.
Probably the worst gimmick that was ever created was the chase, which then became the playoffs.
The "Lucky Dog" was created when lappers would no longer be allowed to take the inside row on restarts. Remember that mess?
False. It was created after Dale Jarrett's crash at NH in 2003. Double file restarts started at Pocono in 2009.
@@christopherpettit2304 It wasn't double file. It was lead lap cars on the outside. Lappers could go right to the front on the inside and have a shot at getting their lap back. Once lappers no longer had that opportunity, the Lucky Dog deal gave the first lapper a pass under caution to get a lap back. That's how I remember it.
@@badad0166 you guys need to read or watch some of nascar history, none of you seem to know that we used to race back to the start line when the caution came out, lots of accidents and lots of heated discussions about positions. your restart position was determined by the order you got back to the line, someone mentioned a gentleman's agreement, nascar kind of left it up to the drivers to try to work it out, big mistake, some slowed and some didn't and got passed for position. you can watch some of the old races and see that if you choose to not believe an old man that was there. ive been involved in racing since the early 50s, was lucky enough to be at the 73 and 76 daytona with Tom Williams of Schertz tx, 73 we took a late model stock, now xfinity, he finished 10th i believe. these were actually automobiles converted to race cars then, his was a 67 chevelle, in 76 he entered a cup car and the engine blew about halfway through the race. these were the times that fans were not allowed in the pit and garage area, much calmer and safer than today. nascar had the pretty girls then too, i forget which year, i think 73, there were some from union 76 and also from accel, i still have my black jacket from accel and a red stp jacket. richard childress was still driving, if you call it driving, we had the stall next to him in the garage on year. and nascar had real announcers back in those days, not the ego maniacs of today, running off at the mouth like in a barroom. oh well, my memories of the good times, sorry if i bored you with them.
As a native Knoxvillian and was at the first truck race there, there was no issue at all handling the crowds. In fact the backstretch stands weren’t even open at all. However, as fast as newton sold out this year there probably most likely wouldn’t be enough capacity for the cup series
The lucky dog is one of those broken clock being right twice a day kind of gimmicks. Aside from that, GWC and the ever changing points formats are the worst gimmicks in the sport. They ruin races and seasons.
Well, the trophy girls are still around kind of. mostly the monster energy girl some NASCAR fans consider them like the trophy girls when a NASCAR driver sponsored by monster energy Wins a race
Before stage racing nascar had the caution clock in the truck series. Every 20 minutes a caution came out so you couldn't strategically pit knowing what exact lap it would fall on. So entertaining
Your Martinsville shirt as awesome as it is bugs me because it's based off of Thunder 2003 but it was Chase for the Cup 2005 that Ross played and got inspired for the Hail Mellon
I miss Victory Lane interviews. Might be in the minority but the front stretch interviews are not as exciting. Maybe special occasions like the 500/coke 600/ championship race etc.
I think that’s the majority. Most fans don’t like frontstretch interviews
The front stretch ones feel so rushed
It's just stupid to fix something that ain't broken. Victory lane interviews have been a thing for decades, there's no good reason to stop doing them and replace them with a rushed front stretch interview. Feels like Nascar gives less and less of a damn every year.
Don’t forget nascar is still high fiveing itself for inventing the single lug wheel
stage racing is easily the all-time worst gimmick. I know more than a few fans who stopped watching entirely when stages came about. They're still fairly hated too
I feel like the lights could look so cool
NASCAR's gimmick on the next gen car is Goodyear can't make tires that wear out I'm sure they can but they refuse to😂
They have, but then teams behave like competitive idiots by underfilling them, and then blame Goodyear for the blowouts.
Texas '22 is the perfect example. The "blown tires" issue magically correcting itself halfway through the race was the dead giveaway.
The playoffs! The fact that the winner takes it all at the end of the season its absurd.
Funniest thing about that Option tire in 2017 is that tire ended up actually being the primary tire for Charlotte in 2018.
Supercross now does a green light on the forks of the leaders bike.
Can we just make Texas a huge dirt track already? Nothing else gonna fix it and nascar can have a truly unique dirt race
That would be awesome. It also fits the whole "Everything is bigger in Texas" schtick.
I think the alternate tire could work, but they need to do it somewhere aero isn’t as big an issue and it can matter. Whatever was going in at the 2024 spring Bristol race, might be perfect.
the "Lucky Dog" began because of changes of the rules of caution flags. before the lucky dog, drivers would race to the caution before slowing down and there was an unwritten rule between drivers that stated "if you let me lap you easily, I will let you pass me if the caution comes out while racing to the caution". due to near track blockage before the start/finish line and excessive racing to the line, NASCAR went to the freeze the field at the moment of caution which eliminated the gentlemen's agreement I mentioned earlier so NASCAR gave the drivers the lucky dog which gave back a small something that was taken away and now adds racing for the lucky dog as well as fighting to stay on the lead lap.
If we can get Sonoma added to the west coast swing and either auto club or a track replacing Fontana, I saw someone propose a “Western Million”
Double-File Restarts
I vaguely remember hearing about drivers trying to do double duty at the Indy 500 and Coke 600. It might not be a NASCAR wide gimmick but definitely gave me a reason to watch both races.
I am not a NASCAR fan by any means but getting a racing themed grandfather clock as a trophy is too damn cool
the first dirt race at Bristol was for the World of Outlaws.
The lucky dog isn't a gimmic. Before the lucky dog drivers raced back to a caution to beat the leader and get their lap back, which was dangerous. That's why we have the lucky dog for safety
They used to freeze the field on a caution at the start/finish line instead of at the instant of the caution. The leader would sometimes allow lapped cars just behind him to pass and get their lap back. Or if the leader chose not to they could race him for it. And of course cars could race for regular position as well. When the obvious flaw with allowing cars to race to the line could no longer be ignored they changed the rule to freeze the field instantly. A surprising number of people actually argued against changing it, convinced among other things that freezing the field would trap too many cars a lap down with little hope of ever getting it back. The lucky dog was a concession to them. The lucky dog name came from the Fox broadcast. One of the broadcasters would always call the driver who got waved around a lucky dog, and it was kind of catchy so it stuck.
I always though the lucky dog rule came about when nascar banned racing back to the start under caution and switched to the frozen field rule
Correct. At NH in 2003, Dale Jarrett crashed off 4 and multiple cars racing back had to avoid him.
I really wish NASCAR would experiment with different tire compounds again. I think there’s potential, unfortunately NASCAR did a terrible job utilizing it during that all star race with too many rules when a driver used them instead of just naturally letting the results play out
I’m fine with kissing the trophy girl staying in the past. It was fitting for the time but now it would be very awkward watching a married man making out with a girl while his wife and kids are on the stage with them awkwardly watching.
Maybe this is more on Fox than NASCAR but I think Fox’s super hero caricatures is one of the worst. Thought it was a temporary thing when that was a trend. If they were going for driver relatability, why that? I mean some are pretty funny…like the few 6 pack beer bellys!
What If The 550 Package was put on a Next-Gen?
We would be doomed
It would be awful, they need more power, not less. 750-800 would be way better than the current package and wouldn't be dropping reliability too badly.
The overtime rules changing all the time first it was one attempt, then it was three, then there was a overtime line (this was the worst in my opinion) now it’s unlimited attempts
I wish we had more night races
Danica Patrick was NASCAR's worst gimmick of all. 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
7:11 i’ve seen the monster energy girls standing outside of riley herbst’s car at dover during driver intros before quite recently.
Your underglow idea is good.
Danica Patrick...
I think Byron won last season at Atlanta after getting a lucky dog. It would be interesting to know how many people have won after getting a lucky dog. Great video
Digger was the best
The lucky dog was a compromise for those who remember when they used to race back to the caution flag and some people could pass the leader and get their lap bsck.
Shorten the dang season February to November is to much. Next thing you know harvicks 13 yo will be in a car.
I think in 2024 with all the talk about the Next Gen on short tracks, the Option tires is something that they should bring back. Have a set or 2 of whatever they had at Bristol alongside whatever they would have brought normally and see how things work out? And other Motorsports have different compounds also such as F1 for example.
When i was 12 or so back in the 90s i named my cat Miss Winston
The lucky dog rule was to take the place of racing back to the yellow, not necessarily a gimmick
Remember the Car Of Tomorrow and the funky spoilers?
I like the unique trophies but I do see where having several Grandfather clocks would take up a ton of room if you won at Martinsville a lot
I didn't know JPR was a nascar fan, hell yeah
You do see the Monster Energy girls still, usually next to Ty Gibbs and the Monster car.
Remember the orange card and green card for pit road? Yeah. That was fun.
The overtime line was a big gimmick, that I actually didn't hate, I liked having it apposed to 5 overtimes, but I definitely see why people hated it.
Similar to the Winston Million, the Sprint Summer Showdown was cool for the winners of Indy, Pocono, the Glen, and Michigan. Until Paul Menard and Marcos Ambrose won Indy and the Glen respectively and Brad Keselowski decided all the rest of the races were optional when it comes to winning, but whatever.
Now don't get me wrong, a place like eldora couldn't hold the fan size of say talladega. However if you where to replace a race that doesn't average high attendance with eldora and make changes to the cars such as remove the windshield and use tearoffs...which will solve 95% of the issues nascar is having on dirt it can turn into a amazing yearly race. With a maximum seating of 30,000 people, eldora is more than big enough. However, you won't be able to get the owner (Tony Stewart) to let them come back.
F1 allows lapped cars to pass the safety car but theyre still at least half a lap down by the time the race restarts
I feel like every big team orientated business has had gimmicks like NFL Indycar everyone
moonshine machine
The "super tire" would be better on a short track. Bristol, Richmond, Martinsville, etc.
Forgot the trucks have something like the xfinty dash for cash
Dirt racing is the only thing that'd get me to watch nascar again 🥱
Did you say condone when you meant condemn?
I think they should bring back the different tire compound, but without all the stupid rules. Just do what F1 does and see if that works.
Boy oh boy where do I even begin.
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You missed the biggest gimmick of all. The points system
I kinda wish if they did have the underglow, if they got lapped their color would turn like green or something, idk it wouldnt be a HUGE thing but it would be cool, the caution clock is stupid tho
The worst gimmick was the caution clock but the best one (if you consider it a gimmick) is the Charlotte Roval
The trucks did have a money gimick a couple years ago idk if they still do
yes. triple truck challenge
It's basically just the trucks version of the long-standing Dash4Cash that Xfinity has
Don't ask Martin Truex anything..... he'll cry about it immediately anyway.
You failed to mention that the lucky dog was actually inspired to keep cars from racing back to the start finish line after a caution, it was dangerous.
i guess you are fairly new to nascar, the lucky dog was initiated because they stopped racing back to the start finish line when the caution came out, so with no way to get a lap back they came up with the lucky dog. funny you seem a little partial to the pimp car lights under the car, i bet someone over in deetroet or east la could help set yours up.
They found some moonshine at north Wilkesboro under the stands like last week
STAGE RACING
I am stupid. I just realized that you are JPR. Bring back Kalos, and bring back the COT!
Yeah the lights at Bristol could have been wayyyyy better.
That 1 race determines the champion.
I always say NASCAR is just WWE on 4 wheels and what's the main thing in wrestling history it's gimmicks
I liked Bristol Dirt, way more fun than the concrete
It's called a moonshine still
Ok here me out, add pit stop to qualifying
Stage racing needs to go away
Love the information in the video but you really think you could sneak in Danganronpa music without a fan noticing
Worst gimmick in the sport? The playoffs.
The caution clock??
nice
Best- victory girls
Had me at Gimmick shows Nascar logo in the dictionary lol. Nascar as a whole is a gimmick. They don't even make the top 5 best tin top, closed fender race cars in this country. Trans Am is way better. The American endurance racing is way better. Any super late model or pro late model racing is better. The truck series is far and away the best of the "big 3" and pretty much anything else you can think of is better.
Perhaps Nascar should look at it's Brazilian series cars. 100x better than the 20 year old Austrilian Super V8 cars they use now. PLEASE Tony Stewart make a new series and save top shelf stock car racing.
🤔 aren’t you the Pokémon guy?
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