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- Can you name a comic you love that you will never read again? Tell me more!
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The quest to understand the prompt for Day 14 of 31 Days of comics led me to a 'not quite forgotten' masterpiece.
Can you name a comic you love that you will never read again? Tell me more!
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You talked yourself out of the category. Love it.
It's my prerogative and I'm exercising it! 😁
I managed to find one copy of Elmer for sale in Europe. The good news is that I also managed to purchase it, thanks for the heads up. Tintin is my answer. Never truly dug it as a kid (I was more into Asterix) and there are way too many unread comics for me to ever go back to see if I can change my mind about Tintin. No offence to Tintin lovers! ✌️♥️
Would that then qualify as a comic you LOVE, though?
Glad you could snag a copy of Elmer!
@@ftloc Hmmm, good point. I grew to appreciate it more than I initially did, but that's not "loved it". Transmetropolitan is my final answer, even though my reasoning would be longwinded and tedious to most ✌️🌞✌️
Hey man,the reason why your channel is so appealing to me, is because youfuel the comic addiction I have with stellar recommendations. Please keep it up!!!
Thank you so very much for that! And as I declared in last week's Patreon/memberships launch video, I fully intend to! ♥️
A bit late to the party, but here is my two cents: One possible thing that could fit in this category is "a comic you remember loving, but don't remember enough about to ever be able to find it again". As a kid, I had several Dutch comics anthologies on the shelves in my bedroom. Some were from my father's childhood and passed down to me, some were ones my parents bought for me. I remember the feeling of reading those on long summer evenings or secretly under the covers in cold winter nights. I remember how some of the stories made me feel. I even remember the looks of (very few) characters. I know I loved these anthologies, but they are lost to time now and there is no chance I will ever find exactly those ones again. Perhaps if I see one, I'll know it immediately, but even that is not too probable. And even if I ever find one... it would probably be like your He-Man comics and become a "comic I used to love as a kid but can't value in the same way as an adult."
What an excellent yet nebulous category that would be! ' I don't remember the name but there was a wolf and it made me feel like I was dreaming but also made me hungry...'
I have some children's book like that and I feel exactly the same as you : I'll probably never encounter them again, but if I did, I think I would know them immediately!
That you reread the comic makes this a video with a happy ending.
When you started this 31 days project, I looked at the questions and decided there were too many i'd have a tough time answering. But you tackled this one perfectly.
Thank you, I am thrilled you liked it! Yes, they don't make it easy for us do they? Best to mess with the prompts and fit them to our ways, I say!
And I'm glad you think of it as a happy ending; I am glad I got this opportunity to talk about a great comic, one that I wouldn't have been able to call an all-time favourite with just one read but now uncontroversially do!
Why would it be on the shelf if you were never going to re-read it. At least that's a question I ask myself when I look over my shelves and short boxes.
@@johnm.withersiv4352 Exactly. I was doomed to fail when searching my shelves!
I love how you work through what each promt is asking in each video.
Thank you, it's my scientific speciality! 😋
First of all great to have you back. I remember Elmer as a beautiful book. I am looking forward to rereading it after your video.
Trying to be realistic: the way time flies and new books keep coming most of the books I love I will probably never get the chance to read again. On the other hand I will probably be loving a lot more books that I havent read yet.
But trying to answer the question Schizo #4 is probably the book that fits the description the most my answer is probably Schizo #4.
Ivan Brunetti is a true master of comics art and this book is probably his masterpiece. Amazing craftmanship, beautiful pages and impactful truths. The first three issues of the series (collected in Misery Loves Comedy) where absolutely perfect for what they were (honest, shocking, funny) and probably but this one was a huge leap to something better than what had come before. I remember page after page being mesmerized but also being personally impacted falling into some kind of "minor depression" not seeing the point to get out of bed for a week after reading it. Which is kind of contradictory, ironic and unexpected (like Brunetti's comics usually are). So much beauty. Such a wonderful inspiring achievement with so much power. back in 2006 when I read it I was in a very happy place and yet it managed to overwhelm me. Since then I am always keeping it at hand's distance and telling myself that it is probably too early for me to handle this once more.
14 - Never reading it again: Schizo #4 - Ivan Brunetti
13 - great plot twist: Why Don't You Love Me? - P.B. Rainey
12 - great holiday comic: A Very British Affair. The Best of Clasic Romance Comics
11 - old comic you love: H. Kurtzmann's MAD - The usual gang of idiots
10 - most wonderful scene: Rite of Spring (Swamp Thing #34) - Moore/Bissette/Totleben/Wood
9 - comic that blew your mind: From Hell - A.Moore and E.Campbell
8 - gorgeous comic : Acme Novelty Library HC - Chris Ware
7 - comfort comic : Peanuts - Charles Schultz
6 - nonfiction comic to recommend to people who don't do nonfiction : Andre The Giant: Life and Legend - Box Brown
5 - first comic series pursued : Asterix
4 - great love story : Ethel and Ernest - Raymond Briggs
3 - great adaptation from another medium : City of Glass - David Mazzucchelli and Paul Karasik
2 - comic to recommend to anyone : Fred The Clown - Roger Langridge
1 - favorite comic : 2000AD
What a wonderful write up!
I'm quite impressed withe everything by Brunetti I have read, and reading your descriptions I could almost revisit those pages!
While I've always been able to look at his characters (even the autobiography seems to be about characters) as very distant from me in terms of their views, I completely see how that could seep into me as well, and you've really made me think more closely about this idea of 'infected by a minor depression' that can happen.
Have you read Brunetti's Aesthetics? I'd love to know what you thought about that
@@ftloc How could I have ever missed this book? The first thing I did after reading your response is to order it! Thank you for bringing my attention to it.
Ok i know this isnt a comic,(thats mainly because i only buy comics that i know i will reread),but the studio ghibli film "the grave of the fireflies" I feel is a perfect example of what this category represents. The film, artstyle and animation are stellar! and i do genuinely love the film,but the sheer amount of emotion that i felt during the entire time i watched it,especially at the end, was so impactful, that it left me with memories i never wanted to experience again. Truly a great movie and something that everything **has** to experience atleast once in their lives.
If this category was for a movie, Grave of the Fireflies would be my pick. For all the reasons you mention. Even though it's been more than 25 years since I watched that movie, I've never gone back to it.
I'm a little late to the party, but I'll go with When the Wind Blows by Raymond Briggs. This is actually one that I decided to give a go thanks to your video a while back. While the book is undeniably powerful and expertly conveys the horrors of nuclear war in such an unassuming way, I found the reading experience bordering on unpleasant thanks to its harrowing contents. It's not a book I can see myself picking up again anytime soon without a great deal of convincing!
No such thing as late to a party that's got far to go 😁!
And as much as I love that book, I completely understand what you mean. In fact, there was more than a decade between my first and second read of that book, now that I think about it.
Loving this!
Great video and Topic. Thank you. This one took me a little bit but finally 2 books series came to mind, both that i read last year and also involving animals. WE3, and Stray Dogs. Both great stories that i enjoyed a lot but some was hard to get through because of what happens to the animals. I would recommend both but once is enough for me
Thank you! I haven't read Stray Dogs yet, but am definitely planning to, even if I have to borrow a copy.
WE 3 is a favourite comic of mine (in my Top 10 Sci Fi video, I think I called it my favourite Grant Morrison story) and yes it's tough going at times, many of the pages are burnes into my brain, making me sometimes think I remember it so well I don't need another re read (yet)
Thanks for your insights. I pulled it off my shelf for re-read pile!
Thrilled you enjoyed it! I wonder what your re-read impressions will be!
I love your passion for comics, glad to see you again, for some reason YT didnt show me your channel in a long long time
Thank you so much! Glad to be back as well! I had an announcement video last week about my absence (czcams.com/video/NU1MwFlUo0w/video.html) and I also chatted about notifications issues in a livestream (czcams.com/users/liveHyZ4Uai4YZM?feature=share) just a few hours ago! Check those out if interested!
Second time a 31 days of comics video ends with me buying the damn book lol. Please keep making these. I love how seriously you take the subject matter, and how your mind works in doing so
Yay! Mission accomplished! I'm really excited to think of people discovering it; now you need to tell me what you thought of it once you've read it 😁
Comic that I ❤ and can never read again ? That's easy - Moebius The Incal it's just too emotionally overwhelming and existentially sad it's the GREATEST ever written nothing is even close . But honestly sir IM OCD and the only book I've EVER read twice is Herman Melvilles Moby Dick. The Incal has philosophical and pessimism themes that are far too overwhelming but I would never read it again just because of my nature . ALSO- one of the greatest comics masterworks Chris Ware's Building Stories I experienced it in 2014 and there's NO OTHER artistic rendition that captures the brief joys and prolonged suffering of human existence as this work by Chris Ware does . Once again there's simply no debate and also if Prince Sukkarta The Buddha were somehow alive today after achieving Nirvana/ Enlightenment under a Tree of Life 2600 years ago he would shed tears at the theological and ideological mirror images of Building Stories and The Four Noble Truths of Buddhism itself . ❤😢💀🕊💔
I'm going with From Hell by Alan Moore. Loved it and its a story that has stayed with me but i found it hard to get through it. When I feel like reading it again I usually just go watch a video essay on CZcams. Going to me joining the Patron soon hope it goes great for you.
Thank you, I'm looking forward to seeing you there!
From Hell is one of my all time favourite works of fiction, across all mediums. I will admit that I found it tough the first time as well, and almost gave up.
But today I find myself looking forward to wallowing in it, even if it is just for a chapter or two. There's something about 'conquering' a challenge and being rewarded more than one could have imagined that is a special reward for works like From Hell, I feel.
Fun fact: it was one of the first comics I gave a friend to read, and now we're married, so I have that to thank From Hell for as well 😁
This was easy for me. Invincible by Kirkman. Bought all three Compendiums, read them, enjoyed the ride very much and as soon as I got to finish line I was ready to sell the set knowing I wouldn't miss them. I can even throw in a bonus: Killing Joke. I really loved the story when it came out. Last year I shipped it to earlgrey(he collects Killing Jokes) so definitely not re-reading it again. There is something about superhero stories that my mind most often frames as disposable. That is why I am reluctant to buy them. I might enjoy the story but rarely feel the need to re-read. I'm glad there are things like Black Hammer to break that rule🤘
Ah, great point about a type of disposability at a personal level. I too have many such works, enjoyed them but don't think a re read would bring anything new to the table. But I never go to 'love' as the word I feel for them, that I reserve for things I will spend more time with, and will spend more time with me!
@@ftloc That word "love" does make this prompt a bit oxymoron like a giant dwarf or a two-eyed cyclops. I do remember loving Killing Joke when it came out. It slapped me in the face, partly because of what it was at that time. But like many new things in pop culture even the original sometimes just becomes one of many and looses that specialty for oneself. I just don't have that love for Killing Joke in me anymore.
Even though I can explain this to myself this way I feel like I'm wrong. You created an oxymoron, a never ending logical loop in which I'm now trapped forever.
@@analogcomics Haha remember the foreshadowing and watch for a future prompt that will be far less difficult to interpret!
Great video!!
Thank you so much!
8:16- thanks for your perfect candid review of Elmer I love birds too much I can't live with any animal cruelty and commoditization of our fellow residents of this only lonely and over crowded planet we"ll ever know . 💔🐣🐥🕊😢
There's an additional dimension of pathos when it comes to animals and children for many people, myself included. It's perhaps the innocence they represent that's much more hard to see punished.
You are brilliant!
Excessively kind of you! 😁
So excited to see you back sir!
I actually have an answer for this in line of the last major point you mentioned. It's Lonely at the Centre of the Earth by Zoe Thorogood. While I may one day in the future revisit and love the book so much, it's too emotionally taxing and relevant to someone close to me that I can't see myself ever going through the experience again. At least not for the foreseeable future
I've only recently read two of Zoe Thorogood's books and was completely impressed. I know exactly what you mean, and at the same time I can't wait to go back and see if my impressions change, in any way.
(Especially if I want to make a video on them; preparing for videos has been a big factor in my re reading in recent years)
Definitely Maus, so heartbreaking. The art helps you distance yourself for a bit but then you realize that this happened to real people just for being born a specific ethnicity/cultural group.
Honorable mention: crisis on infinite earths.
Because, damn, those pages were busy. Excellent series, but I honestly had a bit of a headache throughout the whole read. I feel like they packed 18 issues of art and content into 12 issues.
Oh, I completely hear you on Crisis! I'd even say it was 24 issues worth of plot and art! 😁
I have no answer for this. If it was about novels then I probably won't reread any of my favourite books as it usually takes me a long time to get through a book and I'd rather read something new. But as comics are relatively quick to read and easy to just dip in and read a few pages here and there, there is really no comic I love that I wouldn't reread.
Great point, I'm very sure it works exactly the same for me, for the same reasons you mentioned!
Interesting question. In films and books it's easier. Irreversible, for example is one of my favorite films, but likely won't see again. Monsters by Barry Windsor Smith was one of the saddest graphic novels I've ever read. Remarkable work. I didn't think I'll read it again, though, until last month when some youtubers wanted to talk about it. I read it again for the stream, but was hesitant. I read it one seating and again, it was wonderfully painful.
I was just thinking the same thing - it's easier with movies, is it because they are more visceral in some ways?
Monsters is a book that I definitely want to re-read because I wasn't as deeply affected by it as many others were, so I want to return to it when I've forgotten the high expectations that were set pre and immediately post publication.
Interesting promt and, as you said, quite tought to pin down. I tried to think about it, I looked at my bookshelf, I tried to give it a spin, to think more about it... but in the end I believe I have something of an ontological issue with the promt. In my view and experience anything you "love" is something that you go back to, or at least something that you (even subconsciously) want to return to someday. As you said, it can be even a partial return; reading a couple of pages or characters. And this is because, in my mind, something that we love is something that we have made or want to made part of aourselves, something that call to us for some reason. It can be because it shows us things that we don't know, because it reflects ourselves, because it excites us, makes us curious, fullfils some need, soothes us, stimmulates our minds (or even our bodies... and no, not necesarily in that sense ahhaha). Even the fact that we considered something as "beloved" at some point in the past maybe will probably draw us towards it at some point due to our neverending quest to know who we are, who we were, and who we will (and want) to be. Why did we love this or that? That little question will make you open that book and tempt you to read it. ... and yes, you may end up hating it; or baffled at why you felt that way towards it. But I think that any book you "love" or "loved" has always the potential of returning to it. I think it's in big part becuase love is not logical.
And this is why I think the word "love" is a hard barrier to connect with the promt. If the word had been "liked" or even "liked a lot" it would work for me. You can like a work for all the same reasons you love another, but it's not the same. You can also like a work for many "logical" reasons, such as its production value, the quality of the art, the immersiveness of the writing, the characters, the prestige and influence, historical reasons, or because you really value what it is telling you about... and despite all of that, you can feel it's not a work you need or want to return to.
In my case this happens a lot with biographical or autobiographical works. Some are masterworks in many senses, many of them open a door to experiences that are interesting, new, or relevant... or in the worst case, just experiences that have value because they are not your own, so they extend a brige to an "other" (a fascinating "magic" only culture can provide). But then again... I seldom feel the need to go back into those stories unless there are things aside from the lived expeince that have weight in the work (a big part of why, despite not being a hardcore fan of bio works, I love Persepolis and regularly pick it up for a couple of pages). But as said before... it is because I don't feel drawn to them that I can't bestow them with the "label" of things I love... I just liked them. It's a bit of tautological issue I guess.
Then there are some works that, simmilarly to your Elmer experience (or at least to what you thought the experience was), have something in them that is too uncomfortable or dark. In my case that would be Nijigahara Holograph, by Inio Asano. It's a book that is very well written, very well planed, very well drawn... about the most horriffic dark corners of the human mind and of the human experience. I think it is precisely that it tell such horrors in such a well executet way, what makes it a book I feel no need or want to go back to. Yes, it liven in my mind and I somethimes think about it, but I wouldn't want to read it again. I like it, in the sense that it acomplishes what it sets out to do and tell very, very well; I like the art, the well written dialogue, the compositions and visual narrative... but I wouldn't go back to it. But then again... my issue is that I can't possibly say that I "loved" it. It impressed me, it grabbed me emotionally sometimes, it felt dizzying at times. I respect it... but no love. I haven't read Oyasumi Punpun, but from what people usually say about that one, I wonder if someone "loves" it and feels no need to return it, of if they "just" like it.
What a terrific dive into the question at hand!
I too feel there is a certain level of discomfort or unease that may prompt great admiration but not quite "love". At the same time, something that made me uneasy that I want to return to and experience again could actually be something I love, both despite and because of the effect it created in me. So in a way, "love" is something I want to return to!
I think you have a critical and clear analysis of the way Asano's book affected you, and can be (currently) confident in your conclusion. What I worry about is me being wrong (the way I was with Elmer), which may just be another way of saying is I am different now and who knows if what I thought before is true/ still applies...
@@ftloc I think the fear of "having gotten it wrong" on the first read, or the feeling of "what ig I go back to it now as a diferent person" are things that will always sort of float in ones mind. I totally agree with you that time and life changes us and therefore its never the same person reading the same text. Sometimes there are even changes that don't come from us or the text that can change how we approach it. I'm thinking, for example, about times we learn something about historical facts refereded in a tex, or the life of the author, etc. and those things reveal a new side of the work on re-read (or even change the what we get out of it... or even if we even want to interact with the work at all). I also agree with you that love is "weird" in the sense that we may want to revisit a work that made us unconfortable... I guess feeling challenged or pushed outside of our comfort zone is something many of us cal love! =)
Finally, I think Comics have an advantage over other mediums when it comes to revisiting them (loving or not): it's an "active" medium. On one hand, that makes you have control fo things like the time or setting you engage with the text (unlike things like cinema); on the other hand, it allows you to easily access certain parts, browse through or just take a peak. For me, at least, it alwas feels easier to go back to a comic than most other media I own. And I do it regularly. I LOVE Planetes and I have read it whole several times, but I usually pick up one of the 4 volumes at random and read one or two chapters... I guess I feel sort of "at home" in that comic.
Usually if the topic is cancer, of which there are a few, I’ve read some beautiful ones but they’re so heavy. Example: Anders Nilsen’s Don’t Go Where You Can’t Follow
Great point. Suffering in general is hard to see. And the erosion of control and agency in illness is particularly harsh, for some reason. Do you think one's personal experiences make it easier or harder to see such things in stories?
Monsters- Barry Winsor-Smith.
Its not an old book so I may revisit it still. I loved this book. The art is incredible, the pace and lettering were all top shelf.
However....this book was incredibly sad/depressing and im not sure i ever want to revist that again.
Perhaps I'll revisit the art and flip through some of my more favorite drawings, but reread it cover to cover? Probably not.
That's a book due for a re read for me for sure!
I feel the same I just don't know if I want to put myself through it again.
My pick would be Big Questions by Anders Nilsen. I loved reading it but the whole time I kept questioning what it actually was what i was reading. On one side I couldn't put it away but on the other side it wasn't a pageturner. I was confused for most of the time but was also smiling while I was reading it. So I loved it in a really weird way but I will never read it again.
Also there are some autobiographical books that tell about (child)abuse or sickness that I loved because it tells the story in a way that you can almost feel the pain and suffering. And I love that an artist is capable of doing that and is able to pull you in that rollercoster of emotions. But the story is so grim and painful that I probably will not read it again.
I have never read any Nilsen book, can you believe it? Only extracts in anthologies. There's something about his reputation that is ... Intimidating?
What would your pick be for the first book to read?
@ftloc Well that's a question I'm not able to answer because the only Nilsen book I've read and own is Big Questions. If you Google 'big questions nilsen' you can get a 120+ page preview.
I suspect most people will interpret the question as pertaining to comics that deal with traumatic subjects the reader has experienced, such as sexual violence as depicted in personal memoirs like Our Little Secret. I can imagine many people would read a book like that and love it, but not want to revisit the terribly painful and intimate suffering it depicts. I don't think I read comics that way, however -- I always keep a certain critical distance. So I don't think there's a comic I would love but not want to reread. But who knows? Maybe one day I'll find one.
Yes, that's the way I feel too, which is why I failed here! 😁
Strangely, I do have a couple of movies I love that I never want to watch again, but not comics.
More toylines need insert comics in the packages. Especially since toylines are less likely to be tied to cartoons these days.
I'm not that connected these days, but I thought Ninjago and Paw Patrol tv shows were big toy sellers?
@@ftloc And Peppa Pig. But it's not quite like the comic, toy, and TV show pipeline of days gone by.
Loved Laika but it really made me sad, so I wouldn’t read it again. I am a vegetarian and I know Elmer would make me uncomfortable. I recently read a dystopian book where meat no longer was an option so certain humans were bred for food. That book brought out a lot of the questions/feelings you raised. I think I’ll try to find Elmer. I’m so glad your rereading brought you a more positive outlook on this work - I guess I need to reread Laika….
I love Laika very much but it was literally a decade between my first read and return. After that second read, however, I knew I would re read it many times - there's a peverse joy in wanting the story to go differently this time, knowing it won't. That sort of tragic foresight is classic and no other book I can think of does it as well.
What comic is this that you mentioned? It sounds interesting!
And if you do check out Elmer, I'd love to know what you thought of it! I'm really glad I re read it, even though it made me sad. I'd always known I loved it, but here I learned I had my reasons for not returning to it invalidated.
You proved how intelligent and self-aware you are with this video
It's about time! 😁
But jokes aside, thank you very much, that's very kind of you. I really enjoyed the journey I went on , both in re reading this book and making this video...
Sold. Elmer sounds fantastic and challenging in a way that I think I'll appreciate.
My book would be The Tale of One Bad Rat by Bryan Talbot. Masterfully told, important, but deeply uncomfortable and devastating. It's been more than 20 years since I first read it, so I am curious if my feelings would change if I revisited it...but I'm not quite ready to find out.
This was a great prompt!
What a great pick! I ran across The Tale of One Bad Rat as I was scanning my shelves for this video, but as I want to make a Talbot video soon, I know it's coming up for a re read! 😁
Also, I have often opened up the book just to look at the colours...they feel very nostalgic, as of impersonating those Famous Five comics magazines!
And I'm so glad your interest was piqued by Elmer; I'd love to know what you think of it when you get a chance to try it out.
Have you read Three Fingers by Rich Koslowski? I'm not certain if I'll revisit it or not, but I'm glad I read it at least once.
What a wild premise for a story! It does sound interesting. I may have to try to find this.
But the important question is: can chicken-fried steak adequately replace fried chicken? ;-)
If you get to try it out, I'd love to know what you think!
And what a question that is! In my experience I would have to say that no, no it cannot.
Although I will say that every chicken-fried (or country-fried) steak I've had has always been at least "good". Although I have had much excellent fried chicken, I have also had terrible fried chicken depressingly often, so perhaps that's harder to get right?
Lol! I thought you were joking... But it was the next prompt for 31 days of comics!
That comic sounds crazy!!! I'll have to hunt it down...
I also don't have any comic I loved that I wouldn't want to read again.
See, I'm in complete agreement with you - this prompt doesn't work for me 😁
I'd love to know what you think of Elmer if you get to check it out
- My favorite comic: Nausicaa of the valley of the wind by Hayao Miyazaki
- A comic to reccomend to anyone: Peanuts by Charles Schulz
- A great adaptation: 1984 by Fido Nesti
- A great love story: A taste of chlorine by Bastien Vivés
- My first comic pursued: Dampyr (various artists - italian comic series)
- Nonfiction comic: Pyongyang by Guy Delisle.
- Confort comic: Tin Tin by Hergé
- Gorgeous comic: Castle in the stars by Alex Alice
- A comic that blew my mind: V for vendetta by Alan Moore and David Lloyd
- The most beautiful scene: A sea of love by Wilfrid Lupano
- An old comic I've loved: The Eternaut by Oesterheld
- A great holiday comic: Your Wish Is My Command by Deena Mohamed
- A great plot twist: The labyrinth by Simon Stålenhag
- Loved it. Never reading it again: Cato Zulù by Hugo Pratt
Since I love Huge Pratt I decided to take this comic set during the Zulù war against the British Empire. I enjoyed it overall but I always felt satisfied with that first read (never felt the need to check it again). Anyway it's a nice short story that I reccomend to any Hugo Pratt fans.
Is there anything problematic or offensive in it particularly? I remember being very slightly out of by parts of The Man From the Great North, but I feel it was intentionally done and I need to re read it to confirm.
But yes, I have plenty of comics that I'm fine being a one time read in my life, but I can't think of any I would apply the word 'love' to
@@ftloc There wasn't anything wrong in particular but I had the feeling that this was more a "short side project". A nice one but nothing that really left me something memorable like other projects of Hugo Pratt. The Zulu characters were mainly used on the ambush/fight scenes and it all felt like some of those old western movies where the native americans were just there to assault the train. Maybe I just expected something more. That's why I never thought to go back to it again.
In the end maybe the word "love" was to much but instead enjoy 😅
I first thought of something like "It's a bird", since it can be a pretty heavy read, but I would read that kind of thing again when I need it. Then I thought of something like "Garfield", since I loved those comics as a kid, but they are less meaningful to me as an adult. However, nostalgia will probably make me pick those up again too. So I guess, my answer will have to be... no, I can't imagine never wanting to read a comic again after loving it - now let me get back to watching your answer :).
You can see that great minds think alike! 😊
Tough one as you say. Closest I can get (I was going to give an answer that would appear to go to a later day given your foreshadowing!) is Giant Days. Now I know this doesn't really answer the questions as I'm already buying the Library Editions in preparation for a re-read. Just that re-read is some way off. I've read Giant Days after picking it up in a digital sale. Had it recommended to me by no lesser than Jim Campbell the letterer and knew it was about going to University in Sheffield - which I did. I still live there its such a great city. Indeed I get the sense that John Allison the creator of the series is likely to have gone to Sheffield Uni around the same time as me, even if Giant Days was set later.
So this comic was perfect for me... except it wasn't, however good it was.
I mean it really gets under some elements of my experience. They study in the Library I studied (and later worked) in, They went to the same places, drank in the same pubs. Literally this is so set in my city. The trouble is it was so close to my experience in so many ways, yet wasn't my experience it just felt off to me. However much I thought it was great.
My problem, not the comics and I fully intend to go back to it as I say (so this doesn't answer the question I know!). I'm just not sure when that will be as those hang ups of mine still niggle when I flick through the Library Editions as they land and I spot they call The Cobden, the Cobden View Arms, NO ONE CALLED IT THAT... even if it was its full name. We all called it The Cobden.... see its a stupid hang up but its the best I got!
Haha, now THAT is a truly original reason and answer. As a kid growing up watching Hollywood movies (which I love) make absolute nonsense out of India and Indians, I am now trying to imagine if I would ever go back to any of those 😁
By the way, I finally got my Kickstarter for the final four Not On the Test Editions and I will say it was a momentous day for the FtLoC shelves...
@@ftloc Nice they look like lovely collections. Missed that one but the Library Editions are enough to sit on my shelves!
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Thank you!
Welcome back!! Maybe it is Archie Goodwin and Scot Hamptom's Batman Night cries for me, i love that book, the art is absolutely gorgeous but i found it very eerie and uncomfortable to explore again, though i enjoy the art, but i will not read it again, atleast for the long term.
How interesting! I've not read that book - what made it uncomfortable, if you don't mind me asking?
@@ftloc Its a horror comic (i call it 😅) but it doesn't depend on the shock factor, its a good investigation story but its really shines on handling a weird real world issue which is child abuse.The comic is entirely not depended on it but i think it handled it very maturely, but i found it very disturbing to read, maybe more disturbing than Grant Morrison's and Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum : A Serious House on a Serious Earth, but it is worth reading
P.S - The Art is terrific
@@rajatsen3975 Ah, that's such a great observation! There can be a single element that one may not want to return to, no matter how great a work.
My wife is like that about stories in which animals get hurt.
@@ftloc Yes, though i like the book, i feel it very disturbing and maybe i never could read it again
Ohh, i see. Then Pride of Baghdad is a hard read for her maybe?
Definitely! Also Laika. WE3, and from my description, Elmer - these are all books she's wary of.
Anything by Junji Ito I can only read once. His stuff gives me nightmares haha.
Completely understandable!
I remember the first time I read the Nausicaa manga it left me so unsure of how to feel at the end that it took years before I sat down to reread it again
(after rereading it I think it might actually be one of my all time favourite works of fiction)
Beautiful! That's a perfect example of why re-reading is so important! 😊
@@ftloc Do you think you'll ever do a video on the Nausicaa manga someday? (I know you've brought it up a few times in the past)
@@D0Gdidthemath I did one, paired with Moomin! Check it out here: czcams.com/video/O_7UJxKsY68/video.html
@@ftloc I have seen that one before actually, I more so meant a more in depth look into the Nausicaa manga specifically. (To be honest, its mainly because I haven't actually seen that many reviews of it, and I think its kind of underappreciated)
Invincible. It is great but three omnies. Not sure I will have time to reread, in this lifetime.
Yes, a lot of long series have that shadow!
UZUMAKI from Junji Ito ... I think is an espectacular horror comic... I WILL NEVER READ IT AGAIN.
That's a book I have read from cover to cover only once, but I have picked it up from time to time to show people some pages etc. But I will return to it one day. But not today 😊
In the left side of the background, I can see a book with Tintin in the binding. Which book is this and what does it cover as it looks quite thick!
That's Tintin, The Art of Herge, published for the 90th anniversay by Abrams. It's an art book, with pictured from the Herge museum.
@@ftloc Alright. Have you read the Tintin: Hergé and his Creation? It's not a comic, but seems like a BTS for all the Tintin books and the entire journey.
Btw. which character is featured on your t-shirt? Thanks!
That's a local artist's rendition of Mr Natural, by Robert Crumb
Hey, have you read Joe Zette Jocko comics by Hergé? In Bangla, Ananda Publishers is reprinting these 5 comics again. Do you recommend them? (I haven't read much other than Tintin and Asterix)
I read Valley of the Cobras a long time ago and while it was great to see Herge's art in different stories, as a child they didn't capture me the way the Tintin adventures did. But maybe that's because I just wanted more Tintin as a bratty kid. I'd love to read them as a grown up and see what I think
I read Valley of the Cobras a long time ago and while it was great to see Herge's art in different stories, as a child they didn't capture me the way the Tintin adventures did. But maybe that's because I just wanted more Tintin as a bratty kid. I'd love to read them as a grown up and see what I think
@@ftloc I was going through one of the comics I found online and the artwork was a lot similar to Tintin and that's what grabbed my attention the most. Although I am currently collecting the Tintin volumes in small batches, I might think of getting the Joe Zette books once I finish with all the Tintins.
Elmer doesn't quite sound like Maus with Chickens, but rather the Cock Fighter manga.
Oh, it's nowhere near as fantastical. It's more about family trauma, generational divides, and the ways stories can connect even the most disparate positions
It's "No Longer Human" for me.
Never again?
@@ftloc probably not. Too hard to read. Too sad. Too dark.
The cultural artifacts I love but do not wish to revisit are those that are actually hurtful or traumatic yet artistically rewarding.
Do you have any examples that come to mind, I'd love to know?
The movies Jean de Floret and Manon of the Spring are amazing and heartbreaking. Man Bites Dog is an early fake documentary, back when the form was experimental, and leaves one feeling filthy. The short novel Lady Into Fox by David Garnett might be the most exquisitely painful bit of fiction I've read. It would be impossible to forgive the author if one did not sense him suffering alongside the reader and his protagonists. I really ought to reread Camus' The Stranger but it left me so depressed I'll probably never get around to it again. That kind of thing.
Although I can't think of any specific example at the moment, there are probably works I once loved but won't revisit because the unsavory or illegal actions of a creator has tainted the work for me. A lot of us read comics because of a creator's unique voice or artistic style, and I find it really hard to divorce the creator from the work as I'm reading.
That's an excellent point, and one I should have considered more closely.
I've found myself refusing to talk up or spotlight creators whose actions 'in the real world' have been reprehensible, yet I would still reread Roald Dahl, or even watch Chaplin movies from time to time ... I wonder if that is hypocritical of me.
@@ftloc That’s a good point/question. I’d like to think it’s not hypocritical as these things usually come to light after a work has been released. It’s not like you’re actively promoting them. But I understand what you’re getting at; it’s part of complexity of art and entertainment. Two things can both be true: someone can make an enjoyable work and turn out to be a bad person- it just makes me feel uncomfortable and conflicted after the fact.
Maybe Watchmen. Haven't read it in a very long time. Still think it's brilliant. If I would read it again, I would exclude all the book excerpts and the whole Tales of the Black Freighter portion. I just found all of that tedious.
As much as I love Watchmen, I'm with you on the prose sections. The Black Freighter though, I quite enjoy!
Day 14? When was the last time you posted a video?😂
Edit: Killing Joke.
Was I just hallucinating or did your comment say Uzumaki just a second ago?
And the Days of Comics are like days of cool breezes, scattered all over the year 😁
@@ftloc I in fact said uzumaki. just had a second thought after listening to you more😄. Killing joke was the first comic i bought when I decided to start a comic collection. Lost in the pile of comic now😄.
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Life been busy and i didn't watch for some years lol, looks like you lost some weight! handsome tho!
Haha, I think I just shed whatever I had put on during lockdown!