Are Liverpool back to their best?
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Liverpool picked up a 1-1 draw with Manchester City at the weekend, in a smart looking performance that continued their solid start to the season.
Few teams come away from the Etihad with a result, so are Jurgen Klopp’s side back to their best following a slow campaign last season?
JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie take a look at their performance against Manchester City and their wider chances for Premier League success this season.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:26 Liverpool’s Press
05:43 Liverpool allowing more ball progression
07:28 Liverpool In Possession Structure
12:35 Ball Progression: Carrying vs Passing
15:14 Other changes…
19:50 Can this style sustain a title charge?
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I think drawing inferences from the data yielded from the season so far can be misleading for several reasons for Liverpool this year in comparison to other teams. The main issues are: 1. Liverpool have spent around a quarter of their games this year being reduced to 10 men, this undoubtedly has skewed the figures. 2. Liverpool have now played 5 of the top 10 teams away from home (Chelsea, Newcastle, Spurs, Brighton and City) this is much much more than any other team and in these games possession stats are more likely to favour the home side. These two factors give the impression of Liverpool ceding more possession and being more counter attacking. I would argue that it probably won’t be until the midway point of the season you will get a more balanced picture of where Liverpool are at tactically. The sample size here is too skewed to draw conclusions from.
really good point 👍👍
True if you watch Liverpool against a brentford or forest this season then you will see Liverpool in control although it does seem that they possess the ball generally less so than other seasons in the "big" games too, possibly tactically so.
But still, prime Liverpool would do better than current Liverpool in those games. Especially on the defense.
@@mini-mudkipExcept that Liverpool have the second best defensive record in the league (previously the best until Saturday’s game)
@@masstwitter4748 Is it the best they have ever recorded in recent years?
The bar for the best changes every year, just like how 89 points was enough to win the league last season but not in the previous one.
Joel Matip is and has been the most underrated CB in the world for years. His ability in the air is unmatched. His passing range is great. Usually very well positioned. Can make long, line breaking passes. And finally, his dribbling into the opposition is absolutely world class. Even against a team like City, he stormed through their midfield with ease that one time and it almost led to a goal.
What a player. I really want him to stay longer beause his CB partnership with Virgil is one of the best in the world and better than Konate and VVD imo but sadly, he may be at the end of his LFC career.. ❤
He has 3 years more, he is getting less injury layoffs, and the fact that he was so stop and go in the last six years, and missed many games will actually help him in the longevity at the highest level. I think Klopp will have to accept at some point that he should be number two. If it wasn't for VVD'S captaincy I personally would have him as a serious contender for number 1.
@@redshift8302 Matip was never the fastest and has only become slower, to maximize the effectiveness of a high line Konate suits the team often better. Matip is excellent tho against big slow strikers.
@@otto_jk Think it's a bit of an urban legend that Matip is slow. He has a greater awareness of danger than Konate and reads the game better so imo he's the better defender. Konate has still a lot of improvement to make before he can be called elite. Matip gives me more confidence and assurance when he starts.
Agree about the konate bit. Ive always thought that too but people prefer konate cuz he covers for Trent
@@redshift8302Liverpool win the champions league final with Matip starting instead of Konate
We won against City last season at home 1-0 in the league and 3-1 in the community shield at Leicester.
It was just that our losing streak at the Etihad was long.
Not really. Lost 2 matches there last season, 1 in the carabao Cup. We drew there for 2 seasons before.
@@jeewa7114 yea sorry, it was a winless streak not a losing streak that was long at the Etihad
@@otto_jkWell City haven’t won at Anfield since like 2008 or longer. Only time they won there was with no fans and our team wad decimated with injuries
@@97YNWA97 That's what the best stadium in world is capable of 💪
@@otto_jkFacts
Klopp’s tactical evolution is a series of solving every problem with “What if I just made the 8s do that?”
😂😂 what can I do with Trent and the 8s pretty much
Lol so right!
yup explains why last season liverpool was so horrible. their midfielders already ran out of legs
Sure. Except for the time when he went from winning with the best out and out no. 9 in the world (lewandowski) to turning a midfielder into a false 9 (firmino), then turned a winger into a false 9 (gakpo), went from heavy metal football to possession-based football, etc.
Pep just called klopp his biggest challenge and his toughest opponent. I doubt that would be true if for 20 years klopp just resorted to “what if I just made the 8s do that?”
King comment
Klopp is using substitutes in a more judicious manner than he has done in the past. Elliott and Darwin and recently Gravenberch are changing the game when they come on. The way they set up at the 60 minutes mark in many games seems to suggest they want teams to be on the front foot, with many opposition players in their own half so that they can spring attacks with Elliott as spearhead.
He trusts his bench a lot more than he used to, it's the deepest squad he's ever had at Liverpool. 4 to 5 years ago, we didn't have ant game breaking talent to come off the bench, bar Origi for a late goal
I remember when he preferred Milner to Moreno lol.
Some players need games to get form and when a manager doesn't trust them. It won't happen
I think we need to take Liverpool’s pressing with a grain of salt at the moment because we’ve played with 10 men and even 9 men on different occasions this season. When you play with less players, you tend to sit back and prioritise compactness rather than pressing. So that’s one of the reasons why Liverpool have “allowed” teams to progress the ball more this season. In the moments where we do play with 11 men, the pressing does seem less intense as previously but again the data shown here is skewed.
The funny thing about the arsenal Liverpool comparison towards the end there is we’ve only conceded 1 more goal than arsenal who have conceded the least in the league. So we seem okay defensively even with the extra risk on the way we are playing. Seems Klopp is happy counting on Alisson being as elite as he is. But we saw at city he can have bad days. Virgil also back to his best and we’ve had a few CB combos this season.
People forget that we’ve had like 200 minutes of 10 men too so had far more actual defensive work to do so in context we have been very solid but let those pretenders talk
Without Robertson, too. He seemed to be finding his feet again before the injury.
and had 10 men or less in quite a few games!
@@VR46314 don't forget the match vs spurs 9 men
@@sIlver66916 10 then 9 Vs 12 spurs …players + ref
From Heavy Metal to a bit of Industrial, but they still keep rocking.
this trent inverted thing is flawless when we have konate cus he’s quick enough and smart enough to play basically right back and centre back at the same time, when matip plays he’s great with trent back but when trent steps up he isn’t quick enough to get out wide when he needs to and he also isn’t quick enough to tuck back in, like how he was too far right for the city goal yesterday.
Matip is great for those forward runs with the ball that he does though best cb in our team at doing that
@@olliered9924 he is, but now all our midfielders are good at driving with the ball so it’s not needed. I know it’s hard to say but i don’t think we concede that haaland goal with konate there
Konate has all the potential in the world but he doesn't grow he makes constant silly childish mistakes getting unnecessary yellow cards
@@lungalunga1470 he just has an arrogance where he doesn’t want a player to run past him, he never fouls them in the box it’s always on the edge and how rarely does that lead to a goal. He’s still like 23 his potential is one of the highest in the world he does all the hard things right it’s just the simple stuff he needs to sharpen up with and another couple years nexto virg and him maturing will teach him that hopefully. I have no doubt he’ll be a top 5 cb in the league in 2/3 years time maybe even the world, it’s more his injury record that worries me cus most players can’t shake hamstring injuries once u get this many and with his pace it’s a shame
@@timmy5876spot on. Konate is very humble though. However, i think his biggest weakness is injuries. Hes injury prone. I think that jarell quansah is our most talented defender. Yes, I believe konate will become a top 5 cb in the league in the future easily if he stays fit, but quansah is something. The way he reads the game, his dribbling, has pace, and does not have konate’s arrogance. He has also not been dribbled passed so far. His signs are showing. This is a hot take, but I think quansah will be the BEST cb in the world in 4 years. People who are not liverpool fans dont know enough about him
I would love to see you guys do a video about if tactics have gotten more complex in the modern game. Like doing an analysis of a game in the 1990’s and showing us if it has the same complexity as the games do today
That Joel Mattip Dripple was killer
This analysis format is definitely entertaining and informative, as well as interesting from the point of view of tactics analysis. Keep it up!
I wonder what the data would look like if they took out the 3 games with the red cards. Especially that team sequence style chart. Or maybe Liverpool have now played enough games to the extent that those three games don't really skew the data anymore. Two of those red cards were really early in the first half.
Also I think it's mainly the media and obviously some over-exuberant fans that say Liverpool are back. If the idea is that Liverpool are in a rebuild, then I don't think you can be a title challenger.
Nice video. Would be lovely if you guys could provide links to the articles you mention in the video.
I would love to sit down and watch a game with these two
Omg yes I'd love to see them do some watchalongs for the Champions League or something. Maybe for the Euro's if they wont bring back the livestream podcasts for that
That’d be EPIC content
I would stand, in order to establish dominance.
@@makavelismith stand on the ball
Oh yeah, that'd be really frickin good
Hey guys, please make a video about la Unión Deportiva de Las Palmas. They have the lowest budget in all of La Liga and they are still thriving thanks to courageous, unwavering attacking football they teach in the whole academy. A third of the squad is from the Canary Islands, total inhabitants around 2M.
The beat the cholchoneros at home recently and yesterday they pushed Betis Sevilla around in their own stadium. Yes, they lack a striker and lost 1:0, but they had more shots on goal than the 6th placed hosts and netted 60% possession.
Great Video! This season Liverpool will continue shocking everyone tactically because they've evolved without necessarily transitioning. This is to say, they are very adaptable to in-game situations. If you look at that Goal Vs City, it had to be Gakpo, taking out Bernado for Trent to get the space. Mind you, Pep had set Bernado on Trent for this whole Game, then mind you, Gakpo is used by Klopp as an 8 too for space creation, as he did with Firmino, then you have Trent's Profile, also versatile! They have been practicing this Trent thing since preason, I remember the Bayern preseason game in Singapore where he was literally a 6 coz Jones - in the same game- did not release passes as a 6 should , Jones is a ball carrier. Then , even with the Reds this season, Szoboszlai has been used as a distributor and facilitator to help MacAllister depending on the wave of the game. Guardiola is just too samrt, setting up the way he did insured his game, if he leaves the midfield for Liverpool, Kloop Gangs it up in the second half with new-player profiles : Gakpo, Gravenberch, Eliot, & Trent. Pep is clever. Otherwise, Liverpool Today cannot be comprehended tactically at all. At Spurs Gakpo was the false 8, after the 1st red they were still too stable because Szoboszlai moved in as a facilitator, literally what Jones does so well.
Nah there's still issues, but we're moving in the right direcition, I mean we're still only 1 point off City and 2 points off the top and we'd be 1st if it wasn't for that robbery against Spurs.
To me the biggest issue is that due to our constant changing front 3 (which is also good because we have better depth than during the Mane-Firmino-Salah era) we lack chemistry up front which also affects our chance output. For example Gakpo plays more of a false 9 creating space and link play, which gives Salah space to run into. Jota plays more like a poacher which forces Salah to stay more wide due to Jota sitting in the central areas and Trent coming into midfield on the right. Nunez does sort of both, but also interchanges with Salah at times. It seems like Klopp still hasn't found his best front 3, or he changes them based on opposition. But I feel like Nunez and Salah together doesn't really fit, as they both look to score from central areas. This was never an issue as Firmino always dropped deep to give Mane and Salah space to run into central areas
Nunez and Salah is the most effective combination by a huge margin. Is the other forwards that don't really fit. I don't know why Klopp never uses Gakpo as a winger
Nunez has like 9 assists to salah this season or something😂
Nunez has only made an assist to Salah as of now
Agreed everything up until the Nunez and Salah part. Their chemistry is rhe strongest pair of our attackers! Nunez is a definite start for me
I feel like either Lucho/Gakpo/Salah or Gakpo/Nuñez/Salah might be best. It's weird tbh... Salah is the best at what he does, but depending on who's running the other wing he'll either stay wide or go for assists. Lucho is fantastic but then again you run into the same kind of issue in balance.
we still need a top defensive midfielder to be title contenders , a rodri at liverpool would the type of profile i'd want
Interesting emphasis from Liverpool on progression from carrying rather than passing. I wonder if theres a benefit to being different stylistically, as teams get more used to defending against passing sides.
Liverpool are relying on having an elite attack, but they also have probably the best goalkeeper in the league in Alisson Becker. They've always been happy to allow low-value shots because he's so damn good. Being more open isn't necessarily a risk when you have somebody like that in nets.
"which, I think, is the first time they have not lost to them for a little while" -JJ Bull. Liverpool beat city 1-0 last season when Liverpool was "terrible." Maybe add an addendum that liverpool haven't gotten points against city IN THE ETIHAD "for a little while."
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Nowhwere near our best but the squad are improving and showing a lot of resillience and potentail. It's been a good start to the season.
Aggreed. Remember this is a newly found squad, several of the first team players joined just a couple months ago. Also I dont see anyone talking about how young this squad is.
Take that robbery in London out of consideration and you have a team that is unbeaten after playing City, Spurs, Newcastle, Villa and Brighton and Chelsea. And playing 2-3 games with 9-10 men. Very good signs for the season ahead.
We had the pieces to win at the Etihad but the midfield and attack didn’t show up. Defence was pretty solid other than the goal
They didn’t show up or they faced a treble winning team who had 10 finalists for the ballon dor?
@@SKa-tt9nm No they didn’t show up. The balls from from midfield to the front three were so lacking in pace and accuracy. Salah's performance was lacklustre partially because Szoboslai wasn’t on it. Macca and Trent were the only ones who created chances in the game but Gravenberch was great when he came on. Should have started over Jones I’d say
I wonder how the stats would change if you took out the games where they had 10/9 men which is 3 of the 12
Macca, Szobo and grav have slotted in so well. Our midfield finally has everything
If only Bellingham joins in, liverpool could be top of the table by now
Broadly the best thing to happen to us is that instead of Hendo Fabinho needing to be replaced Firmino on a free n us pondering on their replacement, good that it happened in a jiffy with Klopp n the think tank immediately applying their minds on that, they have already worked this out, at least partially. So the team has become quickly new look n it appears it suits Klopp immensely as it is easier to groom n control newbies n quite remarkably are not letting the strain of injuries n lay offs to be felt, by much. What is strange as well appreciable is that this new look Liverpool is indeed playing or has played below par or badly but is winning both home n away from situations when most other teams would crumble. Its a highly intrepid n courageous bunch that is not playing or is too technically endowed but is putting n executing their plans better than most teams. There was little chance of another team coming back n winning home n away against Fulham n Palace, that what is different with Liverpool's, esp compared to last season.
ryan, maca and szoboslai are surely develop a lot, so this team is still a work in progress. But its impressive how promissing this is looking like; all three of them are really good progressive midfielders, and this will help a lot unlock opossition defences. Ryan, in particular, is looking a brutal talent. He just plays different, very inteligent, composed and progressive. Its not common to see someone play like him
Curtis Jones is the second-best midfielder on this team.
If liverpool signs Andre in Jan will be great
Surely not with the ball@@SKa-tt9nm
We're not back to our best but something special is happening, we're still creating good moments and we're starting to gel together. Lots of individual quality, it's only a matter of time until it becomes solidified and well established. Our best midfielders are Mac Allister, Szobozslai, and Gravenberch - I don't think they've all played together yet but that would very attacking and interesting to see. I would rather put Endo or Stefan in the six position or even reinvent Trent Alexander-Arnold as a six. Alternatively, Andre could be a potential final missing piece for us. So far the integrity of the system and formation has been good enough to win games, but this is the extra thing that can take us to the next level. Darwin is an absolute weapon but I would be more intrigued to play Gakpo as either a winger or false nine. Sometimes we look at Klopp and think he makes weird substitutions and selections but we ultimately see a good end result because he trusts his players and most of the time they deliver for him. I just hope we use Gakpo more not in midfield because I think that with some playtime he'll start producing very good numbers for us. Trusting in Darwin could eventually result in clinical finishing but he is hot headed and not the brightest so he can be a liability as much as he is an asset.
interesting stats which actually confirm a lot of what I have been seeing on the pitch for Liverpool. I would say though that Klopp relies more on his back line than his forward line. Matip is having an outstanding season so far, in fact in terms of defensive solidity and his brilliant runs from deep, he is probably more instrumental than VD in Liverpool's best start to the season since the 80's.
Breaking the lines from deep is risky, but less so if you are set up for it and have Matip & Van Djik in your side. It allows quick attacks to form through a transitional opposition and allows the ball carriers that have been purchased, Gravenberch (what a steal!!), Diaz, Sobo and MacAlister to do their thing and it is working like a dream. Great shout out to Pep Linders there, (LFC manager in waiting). Great video lads.
I think this Liverpool is the best team under Klopp...their decline was more to do with the general improvement in the other top Clubs in EPL. By investing big they have levelled up this season.
What? We are nowhere close to the champions league winning level we were
@@ostrol1590 league is stronger now to be fair than it was 18/19 19/20 but feel like its a bit early though to say this team is the best team klopp has had
@@ostrol1590exactly. Salah and Nunez have clicked really well but the third player Diaz, Jota nor Gakpo seem not to have a same kind of connection.
Aye, other teams improving is why their midfield collapsed. What a joke
@@otto_jkTo be fair, Diaz has been really good for the most part, even if the G&A doesn't show it. Robbed at Spurs of a legitmate goal too. Obviously what happened to his family plays a big impact as well.
Really good stuff as always lads.
I think having the dual midfield presses further exposes Mac as the lone 6 when countered. He may well learn the role and be able to do a Thiago role effectively when he has done the lone role. Not a 10 out of 10, but a consistent 7 defensively. But what an athletic DM would do for this side...
Bajcetic injuries woes haven't helped neither as he looked set for a massive season this season, but reinjured himself a few weeks ago, of course.
Not a knock on Tsmikas and especially Matip, but things will improve further with Konate/Gomez and Robertson back too in regards to combating a lot issues.
Liverpool are nearly there, but given the form and position they find themselves in, they are 6-12 months ahead of their trajectory.
I would have to disagree on Matip. The team looks way better defensively when he is playing instead of Konate. He is talented but at this point far from elite. Also Gomez is a decent backup but way to errorprone to even be in the discussion for the first eleven.
The thing I hate about this system is that we’re playing salah as a touch line winger. HE NEEDS TO BE AN INSIDE FORWARD. And we never properly replaced mane. Diaz is a completely different player. We would have been better off signing someone like doku or leao. And I feel like the team doesn’t exactly know what they are doing either. Players will sometimes make the same run as each other and run into each other etc. where as back in 2017 we were much more free flowing attacking wise and then sorted the defence with Ali,virg and fab. Still a long way to go but we need to just keep grinding out these results
I understand your point about Mane, but us having Dias has brought a different type of energy in the frontline. Similar to Nunez, Dias has the rawness where you dont know what to really expect or what hes doing, that on the other hand has been providing us with more dynamic play.
I also think that the fact that our front is a lot more interchangeable than before has allowed more fluidity and allows us to address different types of opposition. With a players like Dias, Darwin and even Gakpo low blocks arent a problem as before
completely agree
@@wiliamochiquele723 diaz has no where near as much impact as mane he’s just not as threatening. He doesn’t have the scary pace mane had or the finishing (even tho diaz finishing is good)
Why would you expect a like for like replacement? We didn’t replace coutino either and that tuned out fine. Fans screamed for years that we didn’t like-for-like replace Gini. Do you really care if Sobo is dominating, with a completely different skill set? Numez isn’t Firmino. Does that bother you when he scores 2 goals against Newcastle to win the game?
I take issue with the contention that Salah is playing as a forward or striker and not a winger. I think his heat map is much closer to the touch line (even more so as he's aging) than the likes of Ronaldo when he was playing as a winger. I think we assume that he's playing like a forward because he's scoring crazy goals, but what I think is really happening is just that he is becoming insanely efficient with his attacking runs.
11:20 "mmm the joker, yes"
Got me rolling
As an analyst, i would like to know how you got all my file names at the end of this episode
They're not pressing as in previous years probably because they need to prevent and manage injuries. They're still running and they're still intense but it's a measured intensity. And they've come up with a system that takes all that into consideration.
At least that's how i see it.
Definitely need an update on the LW.
No cdm no PL party... A well rescued point at the weekend....
Is it a personnel related change. When you’ve got good young ball progressors you would like to play a more transitional type of football? When they had more of calmer and experienced midfield of gini hendo and fabinho they would try to squeeze the opposition to create chances.
For an away game a draw is alright, for the second half Liverpool got out of the gates quickly, but there was something off in the final third, I felt there was some hesitation. Man city also did very well to shut down Salah, they always had strong defenders to get him off balance. Macallister needs to play further up ideally, Endo is not an ideal first choice and that's still why I'm not all that optimistic.
I think worth noting is that the only goal that City scored came from an error from Alisson when he tried to clear the ball and he slipped. Got the back easily and then scored from that. Had that not happened, possibly would have been 1-0 to Liverpool at the end of the day.
Hmmm… the pressing isn’t as different as you suggest. Henderson used to press all the way to the keeper. We just aren’t well drilled yet with all the new players.
Also, Salah is our playmaker now. Calling him a forward is doing a disservice to the creative output he has.
Also, I think we aren’t as fluid as we’d like to be in possession, which makes our defense worse however, we have the joint best defensive record in the league.
It’s hard to know what’s working but it is 😇
No we still are a bit off. Probably because of new midfield & we are still missing a CDM who should relieve our attacking midfielders to do their thing.
More chaos but also a great defensive record so far, sounds like a good compromise
they are back to a minimum level they should be operating but and a big BUT , they still need a proper destroyer in midfield , a PROPER 6 , someone like Fabinho or Mascherhano , Alexis is a good footballer and he can be even better but he is not a 6 , we are not seeing the best of him . Also we need to think of the RB problem , either you play a flat back 4 with a proper RB who can defend and put TAA with Alexis as a double pivot or get 2 CB for either side of VVD , Matip does good but his injury record , speed and expiring contract is a liability , then Robbo is a full back not a 3rd CB .
At least we dont cheat to win games/trophies. Honest football. Corrupt Man C.
Plenty of stats except that the Goals Against stat isn't mentioned.
Hear me out except for 2018/19 season, Liverpool can only be good in odd to pair seasons (2013/14, 2017/18, 2019/20, 2021/22, and this season)
3:53 😂😂😂😂 this guy is unpredictably hilarious
I think liverpool still need a proper 6 or wait till bajetic and thiago come back . Since Mac Allister is not a traditional CDM he struggles a lot during games and we tend to concede unnecessary goals . We know from previous seasons , your defense needs to be impeccable to go toe to toe with city otherwise they just leap frog you easily .
Not back yet, but will get there soon, very soon. You can start seeing signs of this already. When it happens it may be too late for other teams to react. One can feel it coming.
Our defence and midfield are aligning, our attack in hindsight was fine, it was just they lacked support and supply.
I thought my resolution was bad when they were explaining tactics but found that it was out of focus 😂
Just lacking in execution really, not taking the opportunity to take on shooting opportunities when in transition and trying to play their way into the box. Trent's shot was from an area they got into many times.
Liverpool at the height of 1.0 with a Henderson, Wijnaldum and Fabinho midfield 3, and Firmino frequently dropping deep to as a False-9 or extra midfielder. This is a simpler setup where pressing, and winning the ball in midfield is the main objective of the midfield. In possession, the Fullbacks Trent and Robbo, provide ball progression and width. Again, it is a simpler setup, often leading to a front-5 in attack.
Liverpool 2.0 has a different midfield. More technical players, more ball-carriers. Gravenberch and Szoboszlai in particular are very good ball-carriers. MacAllister is a better passer than Fabinho, although Fab is the better destroyer. But it is a more complex setup with Trent inverting, and Nunez not as clever as Firmino. I think Klopp is still evolving his team, and it is more adaptable depending on whether they are playing low-block teams vs possession teams. Still a work in progress. Szoboszlai and Graven berch are not up to full speed yet. As are Diaz, Nunez. More to come.
Is libero an old term? I saw it on FM24 as well
personally i like this version of liverpool more with we have midfielder who actually carry the ball rather than try to pass; like Gravenberch , he is someone I wish we had . I think it makes us more unpredictable and more dynamic .
Liverpool is adding some aspect of dezerbi tactics with deep own possession
Infact we're back to top after shambolic last season with only few transfers in this window proves the quality of this team,if klopp gets assets he asked for from fsg,lfc would've been,will be unstoppable...
Hope Stones get back from injury soon. Akanji is good but he is a little shaky sometimes.
Being able to play a little deeper actually helps the more attack minded players on the field. Especially Trent who's not got any cover behind him. The system is working. And when we have to, we do squeeze up ahead. It's not like we can't. It's just that at the moment, we are choosing not to.
I’m thinking
Konate VVD Matip
Trent Sobo Macca Robo
Salah Nunez Diaz
Would make us way more solid. Love gravenberch and want to see him start but I dno against bigger teams this could be the way forward
Back 3. 2 midfielders. We are no konte
Notice there's almost ZERO progression in the opposition box. More progression down the sides, but we are stuffing the box with 8 guys whenever it gets ugly. The front isn't attacking nearly as much against better teams. I think it's all by design to encourage the counter, instead of the counter press, since Nunez and Salah have the pace. And Trent is the best offensive 6 in the biz.
You really saw it in the first few matches, but teams are getting wise to it. Luton never bit. Bournemouth couldn't stop biting. City thinks they can play through anything, and they're mostly right, but this approach more or less worked against them. Virgil fell asleep for one moment, otherwise our CB vs Haaland scheme worked.
This video is informative but confusing. On one hand you are saying they are becoming more direct an relying on transitions and controlled chaos but on the other hand, you show a chart that says they are passing less direct this season.
I'm still interested to see how the minutes played with red cards would still have an impact on these play style and control statistics or are we at the point where that's no longer relevant?
For me Liverpool wont finisg higher than 3rd until they sign an actual DM who can cover ground and spaces, anticipates direction of play and is able to destroy opposition attacks. Alexis MacAllister isnt that, hes a defensive #8 and therefore is doing a serviceable job in the #6 but they will be found out more times than not if they dont address this in the January TW. The ideal player for them is Palhinha from Fulham, profiles just like Fabinho and doesnt have miles of minutes in his legs over his career. However, until they do this then they will concede more big chances and now that Alison is injured and not there to bail them out, these will make the difference in them challenging and them being a decent team in 3rd
IMO, should have made Trent the #6 - can offer some defense, be a Regista, make late attacking runs, and then play a proper defensive minded RB (ex. Gomez). The inverted RB to MF leaves the flank wide open to counters. MACA good player, but not defensive minded, undersized, not strong to be #6. The positive results are because there's plenty of fire power with the 8s and front line
Confirmation bias about Liverpool losing to Tottenham though? Not really mentioning the fact that we got a legitimate goal disallowed. Also played with 10/9 men majority of the game. Used the XGs to prove their point but casually ignoring above points.
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JJ Bull? That name takes me back to the sweltering hot summer of '07. Some good times with that boy, and let me tell you - they don't call him 'the bull' for nothing.
Liverpool are back...to 2017/18. This is a season that the new players are learning and adapting. Man City are underperforming based on their standards
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No. We are better than last season by far but are miles away from Klopps best version of Liverpool. This team hasn't really built an identity yet and it doesn't outright scare teams. I'd guess we will be in a battle for top four come April and not for the title and that's good this team has plenty of scope for growth and time to do it. Further along than I thought we would be.
This is why Andre is of interest to us, he is a ball winning midfielder but can carry the ball exceptionally breaking the lines.
People are saying Liverpool don't win at etihad that often as a reds fan I admit that but when did man City win at anfield?
2021 against a wounded Liverpool and an empty stadium
As A Liverpool fan, I don't think we're back yet, but we're working on it. Next season will be the title push. Teams like Liverpool who don't have obscene blood money finances have to take a run up to have a go at the title.
since the pandemic they have had this weakness in tracking runs, winning duels and stopping transitions. cost them the quadruple in 21/22. still not fixed. they need an anchor in midfield so badly
Not sure it’s fair to say we are completely relying on our offense to score more than we concede. We have the second best defense record in the league, even with all the chances we allow. This simply has to be because we have the best keeper and one of the best CB in the league
Yes, that was an idiotic statement.
Who asks these type of questions? Liverpool are not even close to being back to their best but they have a lot of new talent, the best coach in the league and are competitive despite not being State funded, or spending 1billion in 12months..in fact it's their clever recruitment and coaching that's once again made them competitive. But again their a product in early development.
Definitely not back to the level we were at 2019 days, we still need a CDM and a left sided centre back then we’re sorted
Absolutely not. Three years ago, we were fast and precise. Everytime we attacked there was an expectation of scoring. We're a far 'shot' off that at the moment.
We’re going in the right direction but still not quite as good as city or arsenal. They need 2-3 players to compete imo
Our only weakness is that we have Macca alone for some counter attacks and that's where his lack of defensive awareness gets exposed. Once Bajcetic is healthy and can play the 6 for us, we'll be dominating games like we used to and be more suited to defend the counter.
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Jon has some of the best drip I've ever seen.
lol imagine Klopp and his staff watching this. I picture them rolling their eyes.
Not their best but 2 signings away from it
But they don’t have much squad depth either
No, but on an upward curve. Real success is built over a period of time. With the growth I expect this team will be title challengers for a few seasons but not this one. Between them and Arsenal for second.
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Huh? 😂
I'm just speculating, but maybe Klopp and his assistants are reacting to the injury crises and premature declines of their midfielders in the last few years.
Liverpool's control possession - *weird crab*
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First time we’ve not lost to them AT THEIR GAFF. We beat them at home last season.
JJ knows all about chaos
we have played better at City and lost. Liverpool is much improved, but this is not their final form. There is still a much higher ceiling we can hit.
Please let us be, we don't know which manager is watching you guys.😅 Otherwise great content ❤
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