I forgot to mention the 2020 Svartpilen 401 also offers switchable ABS for those who want to get a bit more serious about their scrambling. The Svartpilen runs tubeless tyres (Pirelli Scorpion STRs) however they do still run tubes in them, something I missed in my excitement of seeing tubeless tyres fitted!
In the event my Moto2 765 consignment requires me to get a bike, this is the one I've picked. Deep down inside I hope it does, because small and light bikes are so fun. If not, I still have my other two bikes.
@@MMPAspergerian consignment? I know what it means, just unsure how it relates to this. I’m always seeking knowledge so if you could take the time to explain then I would be great full. 👍😎🇦🇺
I saw this at a dealership in the US for the first time last year and was amazed at the value. It offers a lot of premium features for an entry level bike and I actually really like the unique styling. If I wanted a 300-400cc bike again, this would definitely be my top choice.
They are pretty amazing in that regard honestly. Especially if you like the funky looks. They are running out the 2021 models here and they are just such good value, I think a lot of riders just don't know about them!
Very Well Explained video.Wish the bike had slightly longer seat to carry luggage for touring. The looks just are reason enough to buy one.The explosivw engine, tyres,suspension, chasis are a bonus.
Your market has a great spec. They just launched it here in the Philippines for around AUS $8100 but we don’t get the adjustable suspension (except for rear preload), and we get cheap cast alloy wheels. The spoked wheels are an upgrade option.
I have seen about 30 people testing this bike,they all said the same about it!!!So i went to the store,just sat on it,and bought it even without trying it!And i still have the same unanswered question:Why dont more people buy it?
I think it's just people not even knowing they exist honestly! And if your local dealer only had one, I bet some people would assume it's a one-off special and would be super expensive, not even realising it's a Husqvarna standard.
@@dasarimanoj3086 i ride a mountain bike . And on Bangalore roads they are smooth and soft as a pillow . Since my mtb has nobby tires , I’m leaning towards svartpilen (also the riding position is more comfortable for long rides , I’m looking to cover distances of 1500+Km) hence for overall comfort and the tiny advantage of light off roading , I’ll just go for the svartpilen 401 . I’ll test ride both tho . I’ll be getting my lisence later this year I’m 17 currently . Wbu ? Why vitpilen ? My motorcycle philosophy is that at lower-midrange bikes function > form any day and at high end (litre class +) form >= function as the performance gets saturated . Also Iike the dirt bikish look of svartpilen
Great review Kris! Awesome as always. I know the Kawasaki 400 makes a fraction more power and torque however it is slightly heavier, more expensive and doesn’t come close to having all the features you have mentioned. The adjustable suspension, larger diameter up side down forks and a quick shifter will appeal much more to an experienced rider. Plus you can get a set of bar end mirrors for around $20. For me however I’d be buying the VITPILEN purely for the ergonomics and proper road biased tyres to maximise its cornering ability. Also with the smaller capacity tank than the Kwaka you will need to get off the bike more frequently, which, let’s face it neither the white or black arrow versions are designed for touring... 👍😎
I was hoping to check out the Vitpilen 401 to see how it compared but it wasn't available on the day. There's definitely a lot of features on these that no one else is offering, apparently they've been selling like hotcakes with these new 2020 versions as well, which isn't surprising.
Moto Journo Kris Really? The original one had extremely poor sales even after the price was significantly reduced. Please correct me if I’m wrong as my understanding (apart from the tiny length increase) is the 2020 now has adjustable front forks and a Quickshifter, slightly different colours than the 2018 model. This is huge in terms of a bonus 2020 vs 2018. However a newbie won’t know how to make the one, two or three click adjustments to the forks to set it up correctly for the person riding it. I’m 6’3”+ with boots on, so the seat height isn’t a problem. However I always thought the 835 mm seat height was an actual deterrent to the newbies, especially the “vertically” challenged riders, where the R3, MT-03, Z400 and Ninga 400 all have a much lower seat height which should make them more appealing and easier to ride. Plus, all new riders (in my humble opinion) need to first grasp throttle, brake and clutch control. A Quickshifter in car terms would be the equivalent of gaining an automatic car license only. Setting up compression and rebound dampening is an art in itself. I’m now seriously considering buying one, as I know how to set up a bike and just use it for an additional weekend toy! Nothing puts a bigger smile on your dial than riding a bike to its full. This bike, on the right hands, will out corner and be quicker in the twisties than basically any big bike ( if you want to keep your license). Seriously these look awesome and to be able to go around someone on a litre+ Sportbike, for me that’s where it counts. 😊
@@marcusgeorge1825 Apparently the 2020 version have been going very well. The early versions certainly had issues getting buyers, with the original pricing being so much higher than almost anything else in the category, and then I'd say probably capturing people's attention once the price dropped, which kind of left them in limbo - not a new release, but suddenly really competitively priced. Also motorcycle sales are very strong at the moment, which would certainly help. I don't know that that means they're leading the sales charts the way the Ninja 400 has in the past of course, as this is a niche machine. It's all relative! One the one hand the adjustable suspension is probably often underutilised (on most bikes), but it's nice to have, and new riders can always google to figure out how to get it set up or adjust it properly, but the suspension has always been fairly premium. I think the big advantage is the overall package on paper is very impressive when people do their research to figure out what captures their imagination, and that does convert across to the ride - although that was true prior to the updates, I thought anyway. I know a lot of people think a quick shifter is like an auto, but honestly I don't think so. The biggest advantage of an auto is no clutch for starting and stopping, which isn't true of a quickshifter. The big downside is you no longer get to choose when you change gear, which is also not true of a quickshifter. It's like with ABS, if someone is the kind of rider to rely on it badly enough to effect their general braking ability, I doubt not having ABS would see them being a better rider.
Moto Journo Kris I agree with you 100%! Instead of using bike technology, I’ll use cars as an example. Mine, stock standard has all the driver enhancements. Out of the box it achieves 0-100 in 4.8 seconds and you don’t need to be A talented car driver to achieve that as the computer’s take control. Today, modern cars are quicker than a manual with an automatic box. Yes bikes are a bit different, even today, as you still need to use the clutch and synchronise for the fastest start (unless your on a scooter).
Just to add to your video content, I think you should be getting some sort of “kick” from dealers as I’ve just put down a deposit on the new 2020 to add to my collection. Without your video I possibly wouldn’t have. Thanks Kris! All, stay upright and stay safe! 👍😎
Definitely worth checking out. I think the CB500X offers a bit more in the traditional adventure department, but the Svartpilen has a bit of light off-road capability if that's all you're after, while being a great light and sporty road machine.
Great review as always Kris. This looks a lot of bike for the $$. Here in the UK they can supply one with a factory fitted Acropovic, tank bag, rear grab rail, bar end mirrors and plastic body kit for under £5k 🇬🇧
That sounds amazing! Is that a special custom version through the dealers? I've heard of a few options like that in Europe, but we never seem to get them down here.
Oh really, I thought I had, I've got a ergos video on the way and must have mentioned it in that. The adjustable suspension for a bike of this price and segment is very very good.
@@FrenchyRider574 It really depends what you're after, if you want a scrambler, you can't go past the Svartpilen, for the dual purpose tyres, spoked wheels, switchable ABS plus quick shifter. I think the Z400 is strong competition though, just obviously taking a very different direct both in styling and being purely road orientated.
I'd agree Kris. I've been harping on about how good this bike is to ride over everything else in the new sub 10k bracket (and a lot of other bikes well north of that!) The KTM 390 platform is such an engaging bike to ride and offers that sweet spot of power/economy as a daily road bike. It's properly light, handles superbly and goes and stops with enough conviction to question why you need anything more for the road. Indeed everything on it is premium bar the display. A bi-directional quick shifter and adjustable suspension is just icing on the cake. To consider anything else is like thinking whether you should get a Mr Whippy vanilla ice cream cone over a tub of triple chocolate premium gelato (for the same price) Unfortunately they are now on back order just like so many other bikes and morons are trying to sell their old junk off to desperate buyers.
Definitely, and while I think the styling won't be for everyone, along with the 390 ADV I think we're seeing these machines raise expectations, which if they have enough of an impact could help push extra features through the whole segment. I do kind of think Husqvarna must be taking a bit of a hit selling these motorcycles at this kind of price, but even if they are, that's an investment in future customers and building their reputation for street machines, which is a win for riders, and should be a win for them in the long term.
@@MotoJournoKris It's one of those bikes you just need to properly test ride to appreciate. This years models look beautiful up close. Yes Kris, The bar has been raised by quite a margin. I can't see KTM/Husky failing due to them being built in a densely populated country with relatively low overheads. Indians predominantly ride small-mid capacity over any other type of vehicle. Their volume of sales is extraordinarily large and they have a huge market in developing countries where KTM is killing it. If it's a hit in India, which I have no doubt it will be for the new generation of riders, we can expect this trend to continue. Other manufactures will have no choice but to follow suit or sink
@@Soshi12005 Haven't bought one. I just test rode it and loved it. It's at the top of my list for a bike under 10k I'd say KTM has addressed the early issues of the 390's They churn out so many each year and surely addressed what needed sorting.
Just makes you think how much money they made with those things and still make after dropping off 4 grand. Still wouldn't buy one of these things. After servicing Husqvarna bikes I know for sure I stick to Japanese brands. The shop I work in is a Husqvarna/KTM and Suzuki dealer and what I see returns for warranty work on those Husqvarna/KTM bikes is mind boggling. Specific VIN ranges of 701s need new plastic tanks. 701 Vit and Svartpilens are are coming back left and right for tank swaps and electrical problems so bad, we have to send those bikes back to Husqvarna. And they don't say what's wrong so we can't figure out what we can do to fix those problems in the workshop. I don't know how many Husky engines I saw that were totally destroyed still under warranty with not a lot of mileage especially the Supermoto and 2-stroke Cross engines that came back in the time I worked there compared to the Suzukis none had come back for engine rebuild/warranty work. Leaking WP suspension parts, leaking engines, non functional clutches all in brand new bikes. These bikes are trouble. Can remember one customer came back four times with his 701 each time with a new problem and yes he was pissed... xD and we don't even sell a ton of these. I hope for all the customers that the biggest problems emerge under warranty and they can have at least a few trouble free years with their pretty expensive bikes. Buying a bike for 10 grand and then have to let a shop have to get work under warranty done would drop the confidence in this bike, at least for me. No Husky for me. But to be fair, they are fun to ride, that's a given.
I personally prefer the old model (2018), the exhaust goes around the engine instead of below, and for me looks better in black/white color with the characteristic yellow stripe and husqvarna motorcycles on the side of the tank...
It's interesting they'd move the exhaust positioning like that, as you'd think it would be less prone to damage not going under the bike. The yellow striping did stand out though!
i have even a tinier one- 200. same bike with a different engine. For city ride even the smaller baby is a hooligan bike and can get u in trouble. A 401 when pushed to full power will give more satisfaction than having a larger heavier bile running in mid rpm 90% of its life...one thing which I find shocking with this bike is how easy it is to split lanes, i almost go blidly splitting with it. Another thing to notice is that is is not just a face lift, then have really worked on the transmission. It is far better feel than clunky setup on the Duke. if u can live with the looks, it is a damn good bike for the price
Absolutely, I think people discount the small capacity options way too quickly these days. The styling is definitely a sticking factor for some, but that's normally going to be the case with most bikes, unless you're not that fussed about looks.
@@MotoJournoKris to me it looks good, specially in 401 configuration. Would have preferred the tail section to be slightly longer. Looks like a gecko which has lost its tail...
Great review as always mate. Been following your channel ever since I am getting back into riding. Just ordered one from Motohub last month and now can’t wait for delivery in Nov! Didn’t know that the 2020 now comes with tubeless wheels as the previous model years came without. That was one of my initial nitpicks and glad they got that sorted out. Do you feel the 2020 rode any differently to the 2018 you last reviewed following some of the revisions?
I actually need to double check that, as I'd forgotten they'd run the tubeless tyres (same as now) on the old model, but actually run them with tubes, which actually seems to be the case here again, double checking all my photos of the bike and looking at the valve stems. I think I got caught up in the excitement of reading tubeless on the tyres on that one which is my bad! I didn't feel like there was any significant change, but the quickshifter certainly adds to the fun factor when you're having a fang, however it's hard to pick up the more subtle differences without testing the new and old models back to back.
Seriously considering one of these bikes but my local Husqvarna dealer doesn't have one 🤣 castle Hill is probably the closest and that's like 5 hours away
Great video. Could never afford the $12,000 rideaway of the first models but the 2020 is cheaper than the rest of its competitors. Would you consider doing a long term review so viewers can find out whether first gen issues - engine shut off etc - were fixed and whether the sketchy KTM reliability 390 has been sorted?
Yep that pricing update really puts them in the mix now, which is great to see! It's rare I'd be able to do a long term test unfortunately, unless I'm personally buying the bike for my own use, or am able to arrange something directly with the manufacturer, as in this case I'm lucky enough to be given a Moto Hub demo bike for the day, but that's time the bike can't be tested out by prospective customers, while a long term test turns a bike from a demo into a second hand bike, and is a pretty big investment from whoever lends me the bike. Not that I'd ever say no if the opportunity presented itself, as it's great to spend more time with the machine, and get an idea of all the quirks of ownership, plus hopefully be able to fit some accessories and kind of personalise the bike. I have been pretty tempted by pick one of these up, or a 390 ADV to be honest, but I've got to make some room in the garage by selling other bikes, and there's a few options that would be vying for attention if that all works out and frees up some space. The aim is actually to be able to do that probably with a different beginner bike each year, buying it, doing a long term test, accessories and such, then selling and trying something different out, but I'm not quite there yet.
@@waiwong7996 I definitely think it's a good option, the main thing to look at is the seat height, as ideally you want to be confident getting a foot down securely. As you get more experienced it's less of an issue, but as a new rider in the early stages an easy reach to the ground really helps. The upright seating position is also great. There are some easier new beginner bikes, but in a lot of cases that means less power and potential, and also generally lower specifications too.
Honestly I don't think there's a bike I've ridden which I'd say wasn't plenty capable of doing a highway ride for that kind of period. Being a nakedbike there's limited wind protection, but you should have no issues keeping up with traffic. As long as you're comfortable on the bike, I can't see anything that would stop you. It's not going to be as good as something like a mid-capacity tourer, but that's where those bikes excel.
Definitely better in the flesh, but it's a very different approach to the nakedbike look than much of the competition who hide away a lot more behind bodywork.
Are you sure those are tubeless tires? I own this bike, exact same one you are showing there...mine has tubes. I was told by the dealer, only the 701 is tubeless. The spoked wheels require tubes on the 401, but do not on the 701. I haven't taken the wheel off myself to check, but the valve stem looks like a tube, yours in the video are the same as mine (looks wise).
Yep you're 100% right, I added that into the pinned comment. I saw the tubeless tyres and didn't think to check the stems to make sure. So still tubed.
I love the looks of this bike but that gauge cluster is absolutely dreadful to look at. I hope they they make it a full TFT dash in 2022 because I’d buy one.
Hey Kris, excellent overview! I am looking at replacing my 2013 CBR500 for one of these. How does this bike stack up in comparison for commuting and riding out on the twisties during the weekend? I was concerned about fuel range too...
I reckon you'd find this a fair bit lighter feeling than the CBR, as well as more aggressive on the handling side of things, with a decent improvement in the brakes and suspension. The single also has a very different characteristic to the Honda's twin, quite a fast revving, punchy engine, but not as torquey as the Honda. Fuel range is probably 200-225 if you're being safe, 250 is pushing it.
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They run an 'easy shift sensor' which allows the same thing, but a lot of people have reported it being turned off until after the first service, or needing to specifically ask their dealer to turn it on. It should be standard.
I'm 180 cm with a 32 inch inseam and I find the seat height ideal, with a little room to spare. I think if you've got a 30 or 32 inch inseam you'd probably find it the same, but you might be only getting one foot down with a shorter inseam. Height can be hard to judge on, as some people have longer legs, and others have a longer torso.
@@MotoJournoKris, awesome!! I love the look of the bike. I’m EXACTLY same measurements, at 75 Kilos. I just hope it’s not too weak. I just came off Yamaha Road Star Warrior at 1700cc. I currently have a CanAm Ryker 900cc which is ok. I think I’ll appreciate being able to toss around a lighter bike like this. Plus, the big bonus: here in the US, the bike is only $4999 !!
@@tjam4229 It may be a bit of a transition going from something with crazy low down torque, to something more revvy like this, but honestly you can have so much fun on the 401. You might get left behind in the straights by big machines, but the fun factor in the tighter stuff is unbelievable, and they really are a lot of bike for the money.
@@SPAZWIK82 I’m actually not sure what I got, I bought the demo bike from the dealership so it came with the mirrors already on, plus some extra things like an exhaust
What kind of riding and roads do you think you'll be doing? If it's lots of dirt and you want something really rugged the TW might be the better choice. If you're thinking more road and like the idea of something a lot sportier the 401 may fit your needs a lot better. The 401 has quite a bit of performance for a small capacity machine, but that also means more potential to grow into as a rider. You could also head down unsealed roads or do a bit of gravel, but if you want to properly explore the TW would be more ideal for single trails or really gnarly fire trails.
Those tyres may be "tubeless" but those valve stems look much like my tubed tyres on my 2018 Vitpilen 401. I don't think those spoked rims are air tight to be tubleless. Big difference because I did get a puncture & tubed wheels can't be fixed with service station purchased tyre sealant.
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Oh interesting, I hadn't heard of the Caballero 500 before now. It looks like it's coming to Australia in January 2021, however pricing is $14k AUD + ORC, so probably double the price of the Svartpilen, but it looks wicked!
The styling definitely contributes to that, with the relatively stubby tail it looks very very compact. I'm only 180 cm, so I'm by no means a big rider, but I was surprised that it doesn't feel at all cramped on the bike, for me at least.
I love everything of this bike, except the ground clearance, its only 145mm. The previous version was 170mm. If you want to do any offroad (light-medium) with this ground clearance is almost impossible :( Apart of this, it's an amazing bike!!
Yep, it's by no means trying to muscle into the more adventure style segment, but it should be suitable for the light stuff, where ground clearance isn't a big concern.
I didn't find it an issue while riding to be honest, but then those issues tend to crop up when the sun is just in the wrong place, especially if it's part of your daily ride, so it's happening all the time.
It’s my first road legal bike, took it for a run today with you guys in mind, again dash is fine, any bigger you would want colour and maybe a steering wheel. And it took me a little while for my body to adjust to the riding position and I thought of risers, but I wouldn’t now. In the process of slowly waking it up with breathing and maybe a chip. But only when I’m comfortable. Cause it has plenty
I forgot to mention the 2020 Svartpilen 401 also offers switchable ABS for those who want to get a bit more serious about their scrambling. The Svartpilen runs tubeless tyres (Pirelli Scorpion STRs) however they do still run tubes in them, something I missed in my excitement of seeing tubeless tyres fitted!
Kris, isn’t just the rear brake you can turn the ABS off? I thought the front can’t be cancelled?
In the event my Moto2 765 consignment requires me to get a bike, this is the one I've picked. Deep down inside I hope it does, because small and light bikes are so fun. If not, I still have my other two bikes.
@@MMPAspergerian consignment? I know what it means, just unsure how it relates to this. I’m always seeking knowledge so if you could take the time to explain then I would be great full. 👍😎🇦🇺
@@marcusgeorge1825 Many bikes out there to look at, this one is good enough for me to find an excuse to take home.
@@MMPAspergerian okay. Still didn’t answer my question. Comparing this bike to a Moto2?
It's great that you give a Sideview of sitting on the motorcycle, that really helps To see that,,, you rarely see reviewer's doing that,,,
Wow one of the best review ive ever watch. Great freaking work mate!!!
Cheers, glad you like it!
Hi Kris; I bought a 2019 Svartpilen 701. Very happy. Makes my smile. Thanks again for your advice.
Awesome! Hope I was of some help, there's a lot of great choices out there these days.
I saw this at a dealership in the US for the first time last year and was amazed at the value. It offers a lot of premium features for an entry level bike and I actually really like the unique styling. If I wanted a 300-400cc bike again, this would definitely be my top choice.
They are pretty amazing in that regard honestly. Especially if you like the funky looks. They are running out the 2021 models here and they are just such good value, I think a lot of riders just don't know about them!
Very Well Explained video.Wish the bike had slightly longer seat to carry luggage for touring.
The looks just are reason enough to buy one.The explosivw engine, tyres,suspension, chasis are a bonus.
Mine is coming in June. Excited!
Congrats!!
Your market has a great spec. They just launched it here in the Philippines for around AUS $8100 but we don’t get the adjustable suspension (except for rear preload), and we get cheap cast alloy wheels. The spoked wheels are an upgrade option.
Oh that's rough, especially at the higher price....
I have seen about 30 people testing this bike,they all said the same about it!!!So i went to the store,just sat on it,and bought it even without trying it!And i still have the same unanswered question:Why dont more people buy it?
I think it's just people not even knowing they exist honestly! And if your local dealer only had one, I bet some people would assume it's a one-off special and would be super expensive, not even realising it's a Husqvarna standard.
its available in the Philippines already. awesome bike. hope to ride that bike
A very good review mate and also do a review on 2020 Vitpilen 401 model too. I'll be waiting 🤞
Yep, trying to line one up!
Lemme guess you’re gonna buy it ? I am planning to get the svartpilen if it launches later this year . Wbu?
@@siddhantmishra3598 iam going for vitpilen any time because it gives you a modern silverish look
@@dasarimanoj3086 i ride a mountain bike . And on Bangalore roads they are smooth and soft as a pillow . Since my mtb has nobby tires , I’m leaning towards svartpilen (also the riding position is more comfortable for long rides , I’m looking to cover distances of 1500+Km) hence for overall comfort and the tiny advantage of light off roading , I’ll just go for the svartpilen 401 . I’ll test ride both tho . I’ll be getting my lisence later this year I’m 17 currently . Wbu ? Why vitpilen ? My motorcycle philosophy is that at lower-midrange bikes function > form any day and at high end (litre class +) form >= function as the performance gets saturated .
Also Iike the dirt bikish look of svartpilen
Great review Kris! Awesome as always. I know the Kawasaki 400 makes a fraction more power and torque however it is slightly heavier, more expensive and doesn’t come close to having all the features you have mentioned. The adjustable suspension, larger diameter up side down forks and a quick shifter will appeal much more to an experienced rider. Plus you can get a set of bar end mirrors for around $20. For me however I’d be buying the VITPILEN purely for the ergonomics and proper road biased tyres to maximise its cornering ability. Also with the smaller capacity tank than the Kwaka you will need to get off the bike more frequently, which, let’s face it neither the white or black arrow versions are designed for touring... 👍😎
I was hoping to check out the Vitpilen 401 to see how it compared but it wasn't available on the day. There's definitely a lot of features on these that no one else is offering, apparently they've been selling like hotcakes with these new 2020 versions as well, which isn't surprising.
Moto Journo Kris Really? The original one had extremely poor sales even after the price was significantly reduced. Please correct me if I’m wrong as my understanding (apart from the tiny length increase) is the 2020 now has adjustable front forks and a Quickshifter, slightly different colours than the 2018 model. This is huge in terms of a bonus 2020 vs 2018. However a newbie won’t know how to make the one, two or three click adjustments to the forks to set it up correctly for the person riding it. I’m 6’3”+ with boots on, so the seat height isn’t a problem. However I always thought the 835 mm seat height was an actual deterrent to the newbies, especially the “vertically” challenged riders, where the R3, MT-03, Z400 and Ninga 400 all have a much lower seat height which should make them more appealing and easier to ride. Plus, all new riders (in my humble opinion) need to first grasp throttle, brake and clutch control. A Quickshifter in car terms would be the equivalent of gaining an automatic car license only. Setting up compression and rebound dampening is an art in itself. I’m now seriously considering buying one, as I know how to set up a bike and just use it for an additional weekend toy! Nothing puts a bigger smile on your dial than riding a bike to its full. This bike, on the right hands, will out corner and be quicker in the twisties than basically any big bike ( if you want to keep your license). Seriously these look awesome and to be able to go around someone on a litre+ Sportbike, for me that’s where it counts. 😊
@@marcusgeorge1825 Apparently the 2020 version have been going very well. The early versions certainly had issues getting buyers, with the original pricing being so much higher than almost anything else in the category, and then I'd say probably capturing people's attention once the price dropped, which kind of left them in limbo - not a new release, but suddenly really competitively priced. Also motorcycle sales are very strong at the moment, which would certainly help. I don't know that that means they're leading the sales charts the way the Ninja 400 has in the past of course, as this is a niche machine. It's all relative!
One the one hand the adjustable suspension is probably often underutilised (on most bikes), but it's nice to have, and new riders can always google to figure out how to get it set up or adjust it properly, but the suspension has always been fairly premium. I think the big advantage is the overall package on paper is very impressive when people do their research to figure out what captures their imagination, and that does convert across to the ride - although that was true prior to the updates, I thought anyway.
I know a lot of people think a quick shifter is like an auto, but honestly I don't think so. The biggest advantage of an auto is no clutch for starting and stopping, which isn't true of a quickshifter. The big downside is you no longer get to choose when you change gear, which is also not true of a quickshifter. It's like with ABS, if someone is the kind of rider to rely on it badly enough to effect their general braking ability, I doubt not having ABS would see them being a better rider.
Moto Journo Kris I agree with you 100%! Instead of using bike technology, I’ll use cars as an example. Mine, stock standard has all the driver enhancements. Out of the box it achieves 0-100 in 4.8 seconds and you don’t need to be A talented car driver to achieve that as the computer’s take control. Today, modern cars are quicker than a manual with an automatic box. Yes bikes are a bit different, even today, as you still need to use the clutch and synchronise for the fastest start (unless your on a scooter).
Just to add to your video content, I think you should be getting some sort of “kick” from dealers as I’ve just put down a deposit on the new 2020 to add to my collection. Without your video I possibly wouldn’t have. Thanks Kris! All, stay upright and stay safe! 👍😎
This is such a ridiculously good looking bike
Yep they did a great job breaking the mold and doing something truly original.
Great review! I thought I was set on the honda cb500x but now I'll have to test ride them both. Amazing details
Definitely worth checking out. I think the CB500X offers a bit more in the traditional adventure department, but the Svartpilen has a bit of light off-road capability if that's all you're after, while being a great light and sporty road machine.
@@MotoJournoKris I can't wait to try it out. If only I could have them both x) Thanks for the reply. Subscribed!
Awesome review. Wish all reviews were this good!
Great review as always Kris. This looks a lot of bike for the $$. Here in the UK they can supply one with a factory fitted Acropovic, tank bag, rear grab rail, bar end mirrors and plastic body kit for under £5k 🇬🇧
That sounds amazing! Is that a special custom version through the dealers? I've heard of a few options like that in Europe, but we never seem to get them down here.
My future bike! thank you great review ! Also you didn't mention ajustable suspensions which is crazy for that price!
Oh really, I thought I had, I've got a ergos video on the way and must have mentioned it in that. The adjustable suspension for a bike of this price and segment is very very good.
@@MotoJournoKris Would you recommend that one over the z400 ?
@@FrenchyRider574 It really depends what you're after, if you want a scrambler, you can't go past the Svartpilen, for the dual purpose tyres, spoked wheels, switchable ABS plus quick shifter. I think the Z400 is strong competition though, just obviously taking a very different direct both in styling and being purely road orientated.
He did.
@@FrenchyRider574 The Z is a twin. Much revvier. No grunt low in the rev range.
Please do a review for vitpilen 401 2020 model
I'd agree Kris. I've been harping on about how good this bike is to ride over everything else in the new sub 10k bracket (and a lot of other bikes well north of that!) The KTM 390 platform is such an engaging bike to ride and offers that sweet spot of power/economy as a daily road bike. It's properly light, handles superbly and goes and stops with enough conviction to question why you need anything more for the road. Indeed everything on it is premium bar the display. A bi-directional quick shifter and adjustable suspension is just icing on the cake. To consider anything else is like thinking whether you should get a Mr Whippy vanilla ice cream cone over a tub of triple chocolate premium gelato (for the same price) Unfortunately they are now on back order just like so many other bikes and morons are trying to sell their old junk off to desperate buyers.
Definitely, and while I think the styling won't be for everyone, along with the 390 ADV I think we're seeing these machines raise expectations, which if they have enough of an impact could help push extra features through the whole segment.
I do kind of think Husqvarna must be taking a bit of a hit selling these motorcycles at this kind of price, but even if they are, that's an investment in future customers and building their reputation for street machines, which is a win for riders, and should be a win for them in the long term.
@@MotoJournoKris It's one of those bikes you just need to properly test ride to appreciate. This years models look beautiful up close. Yes Kris, The bar has been raised by quite a margin. I can't see KTM/Husky failing due to them being built in a densely populated country with relatively low overheads. Indians predominantly ride small-mid capacity over any other type of vehicle. Their volume of sales is extraordinarily large and they have a huge market in developing countries where KTM is killing it. If it's a hit in India, which I have no doubt it will be for the new generation of riders, we can expect this trend to continue. Other manufactures will have no choice but to follow suit or sink
@@nikitis13 any issues with the bike so far?
@@Soshi12005 Haven't bought one. I just test rode it and loved it. It's at the top of my list for a bike under 10k I'd say KTM has addressed the early issues of the 390's They churn out so many each year and surely addressed what needed sorting.
Just makes you think how much money they made with those things and still make after dropping off 4 grand. Still wouldn't buy one of these things. After servicing Husqvarna bikes I know for sure I stick to Japanese brands. The shop I work in is a Husqvarna/KTM and Suzuki dealer and what I see returns for warranty work on those Husqvarna/KTM bikes is mind boggling. Specific VIN ranges of 701s need new plastic tanks. 701 Vit and Svartpilens are are coming back left and right for tank swaps and electrical problems so bad, we have to send those bikes back to Husqvarna. And they don't say what's wrong so we can't figure out what we can do to fix those problems in the workshop. I don't know how many Husky engines I saw that were totally destroyed still under warranty with not a lot of mileage especially the Supermoto and 2-stroke Cross engines that came back in the time I worked there compared to the Suzukis none had come back for engine rebuild/warranty work. Leaking WP suspension parts, leaking engines, non functional clutches all in brand new bikes. These bikes are trouble. Can remember one customer came back four times with his 701 each time with a new problem and yes he was pissed... xD and we don't even sell a ton of these. I hope for all the customers that the biggest problems emerge under warranty and they can have at least a few trouble free years with their pretty expensive bikes. Buying a bike for 10 grand and then have to let a shop have to get work under warranty done would drop the confidence in this bike, at least for me. No Husky for me. But to be fair, they are fun to ride, that's a given.
Good to know. There's so many good reviews on these, but not much is said on reliability. Cheers
I personally prefer the old model (2018), the exhaust goes around the engine instead of below, and for me looks better in black/white color with the characteristic yellow stripe and husqvarna motorcycles on the side of the tank...
It's interesting they'd move the exhaust positioning like that, as you'd think it would be less prone to damage not going under the bike. The yellow striping did stand out though!
I read/watched other videos where they say you can just take any KTM 390Duke head pipe to fit in the Svart401. That's actually my plan :)
i have even a tinier one- 200. same bike with a different engine. For city ride even the smaller baby is a hooligan bike and can get u in trouble. A 401 when pushed to full power will give more satisfaction than having a larger heavier bile running in mid rpm 90% of its life...one thing which I find shocking with this bike is how easy it is to split lanes, i almost go blidly splitting with it. Another thing to notice is that is is not just a face lift, then have really worked on the transmission. It is far better feel than clunky setup on the Duke. if u can live with the looks, it is a damn good bike for the price
Absolutely, I think people discount the small capacity options way too quickly these days. The styling is definitely a sticking factor for some, but that's normally going to be the case with most bikes, unless you're not that fussed about looks.
@@MotoJournoKris to me it looks good, specially in 401 configuration. Would have preferred the tail section to be slightly longer. Looks like a gecko which has lost its tail...
Great review as always mate. Been following your channel ever since I am getting back into riding. Just ordered one from Motohub last month and now can’t wait for delivery in Nov! Didn’t know that the 2020 now comes with tubeless wheels as the previous model years came without. That was one of my initial nitpicks and glad they got that sorted out. Do you feel the 2020 rode any differently to the 2018 you last reviewed following some of the revisions?
I actually need to double check that, as I'd forgotten they'd run the tubeless tyres (same as now) on the old model, but actually run them with tubes, which actually seems to be the case here again, double checking all my photos of the bike and looking at the valve stems. I think I got caught up in the excitement of reading tubeless on the tyres on that one which is my bad!
I didn't feel like there was any significant change, but the quickshifter certainly adds to the fun factor when you're having a fang, however it's hard to pick up the more subtle differences without testing the new and old models back to back.
@@MotoJournoKris Good to know! Looks like they kept the tube intact for the 2020.
Seriously considering one of these bikes but my local Husqvarna dealer doesn't have one 🤣 castle Hill is probably the closest and that's like 5 hours away
Ouch, that's a long way to go!
Great video. Could never afford the $12,000 rideaway of the first models but the 2020 is cheaper than the rest of its competitors.
Would you consider doing a long term review so viewers can find out whether first gen issues - engine shut off etc - were fixed and whether the sketchy KTM reliability 390 has been sorted?
Yep that pricing update really puts them in the mix now, which is great to see!
It's rare I'd be able to do a long term test unfortunately, unless I'm personally buying the bike for my own use, or am able to arrange something directly with the manufacturer, as in this case I'm lucky enough to be given a Moto Hub demo bike for the day, but that's time the bike can't be tested out by prospective customers, while a long term test turns a bike from a demo into a second hand bike, and is a pretty big investment from whoever lends me the bike. Not that I'd ever say no if the opportunity presented itself, as it's great to spend more time with the machine, and get an idea of all the quirks of ownership, plus hopefully be able to fit some accessories and kind of personalise the bike.
I have been pretty tempted by pick one of these up, or a 390 ADV to be honest, but I've got to make some room in the garage by selling other bikes, and there's a few options that would be vying for attention if that all works out and frees up some space. The aim is actually to be able to do that probably with a different beginner bike each year, buying it, doing a long term test, accessories and such, then selling and trying something different out, but I'm not quite there yet.
@@MotoJournoKris do you think this would be a good first bike? Getting my Learners in November and having difficulty deciding what bike to start on.
@@waiwong7996 I definitely think it's a good option, the main thing to look at is the seat height, as ideally you want to be confident getting a foot down securely. As you get more experienced it's less of an issue, but as a new rider in the early stages an easy reach to the ground really helps. The upright seating position is also great. There are some easier new beginner bikes, but in a lot of cases that means less power and potential, and also generally lower specifications too.
I like the look of the KTM Duke 390 more, but this is a handsome bike. Tubeless tyres on spoke wheels at that price.
I'd lean towards the Duke too as I like the more futuristic theme, but it is hard to pass on those wheels, and these are cool in their own way!
Great review
Is this bike suited for medium length trips on highways? Say 30mins to an hour
Honestly I don't think there's a bike I've ridden which I'd say wasn't plenty capable of doing a highway ride for that kind of period. Being a nakedbike there's limited wind protection, but you should have no issues keeping up with traffic. As long as you're comfortable on the bike, I can't see anything that would stop you. It's not going to be as good as something like a mid-capacity tourer, but that's where those bikes excel.
Very nice review. Were the tubeless tires also standard on the 2018-19 401 models?
That was my mistake actually, they run tubeless tyres, but still have a tube inside them. Same with the older models.
i prefer the 701 Vitpilen
but damn, at seven grand i will copp tomorrow!
Yep that value is crazy!!!
not 100% sure about the looks but suspect it looks better in the flesh.
Definitely better in the flesh, but it's a very different approach to the nakedbike look than much of the competition who hide away a lot more behind bodywork.
Nice review! What's your height mate?
I'm 180 cm, and a 32 inch inseam for reach to the ground comparison.
Are you sure those are tubeless tires?
I own this bike, exact same one you are showing there...mine has tubes. I was told by the dealer, only the 701 is tubeless. The spoked wheels require tubes on the 401, but do not on the 701.
I haven't taken the wheel off myself to check, but the valve stem looks like a tube, yours in the video are the same as mine (looks wise).
Yep you're 100% right, I added that into the pinned comment. I saw the tubeless tyres and didn't think to check the stems to make sure. So still tubed.
I love the looks of this bike but that gauge cluster is absolutely dreadful to look at. I hope they they make it a full TFT dash in 2022 because I’d buy one.
That'd be a nice aesthetic change, as that's an easy current feature to dislike!
Do you even look at it once you become familiar with a bike?
Hey Kris, excellent overview! I am looking at replacing my 2013 CBR500 for one of these. How does this bike stack up in comparison for commuting and riding out on the twisties during the weekend? I was concerned about fuel range too...
I reckon you'd find this a fair bit lighter feeling than the CBR, as well as more aggressive on the handling side of things, with a decent improvement in the brakes and suspension. The single also has a very different characteristic to the Honda's twin, quite a fast revving, punchy engine, but not as torquey as the Honda. Fuel range is probably 200-225 if you're being safe, 250 is pushing it.
@@MotoJournoKris Thanks for the great reply, really helps thank you! Keep the content flowing, love your work :)
Hey mate, great video, just wondering how tall you are?
I'm 180 cm and about a 32 inch inseam for comparison.
Automatic Sub! Very nice review! 🤙
Thanks, very much appreciate the support!
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8 spokes rims are also available for this model in India.....if you don't like spokes😐
Does the 2020-2022 Svartpilen 401 (not 701, 401!) REALLY have a quickshifter!?
They run an 'easy shift sensor' which allows the same thing, but a lot of people have reported it being turned off until after the first service, or needing to specifically ask their dealer to turn it on. It should be standard.
I'm 165 cm tall,, will I be able to ride it?? Will the saddle height cause any problem?
I'm 180 cm with a 32 inch inseam and I find the seat height ideal, with a little room to spare. I think if you've got a 30 or 32 inch inseam you'd probably find it the same, but you might be only getting one foot down with a shorter inseam. Height can be hard to judge on, as some people have longer legs, and others have a longer torso.
I’m 5’5” with a 28 inch inseam and I didn’t find it to be a problem. It’s thin enough that I can flat foot one or tippy toe both.
great review
Nice Video. Thanks! How tall are you? It fits you perfectly.
Yep I was lucky, I'm 180 cm with a 32 inch inseam and seemed perfect.
@@MotoJournoKris, awesome!! I love the look of the bike. I’m EXACTLY same measurements, at 75 Kilos.
I just hope it’s not too weak. I just came off Yamaha Road Star Warrior at 1700cc.
I currently have a CanAm Ryker 900cc which is ok.
I think I’ll appreciate being able to toss around a lighter bike like this. Plus, the big bonus: here in the US, the bike is only $4999 !!
@@tjam4229 It may be a bit of a transition going from something with crazy low down torque, to something more revvy like this, but honestly you can have so much fun on the 401. You might get left behind in the straights by big machines, but the fun factor in the tighter stuff is unbelievable, and they really are a lot of bike for the money.
I got bar end mirrors on mine :)
That's definitely one of the first mods I'd do!
Which ones did you get? I’m waiting for the dealership to get a gas tank bolt before I can bring my 2020 home and want to x mirrors
@@SPAZWIK82 I’m actually not sure what I got, I bought the demo bike from the dealership so it came with the mirrors already on, plus some extra things like an exhaust
I was convinced in a TW200 for my first road bike. Im 59 yrsold. now im convinced the 401 is the best choice. Help
What kind of riding and roads do you think you'll be doing? If it's lots of dirt and you want something really rugged the TW might be the better choice. If you're thinking more road and like the idea of something a lot sportier the 401 may fit your needs a lot better. The 401 has quite a bit of performance for a small capacity machine, but that also means more potential to grow into as a rider. You could also head down unsealed roads or do a bit of gravel, but if you want to properly explore the TW would be more ideal for single trails or really gnarly fire trails.
Went to look at these and the 701’s at the shop he mentioned. I spent half hour in the shop and not one sales agent bothered to see me. Their loss
Their loss your luck.
Those tyres may be "tubeless" but those valve stems look much like my tubed tyres on my 2018 Vitpilen 401. I don't think those spoked rims are air tight to be tubleless. Big difference because I did get a puncture & tubed wheels can't be fixed with service station purchased tyre sealant.
Yep there's a pinned comment with the correction.
Kris, what are you wearing in the review? Jacket & pants type? Boots too?
Dririder Rapid Jeans, Dririder EXO2 Jacket and Xpd XP3-S Boots. Really recommend them all. The jeans may not be for everyone due to the knee pocket armour design, if you like a more traditional jean, but the jacket is amazing in the warmer weather for breathability and the boots I've had for years and they are still going strong, just with some cracking of the plastics over the toe.
is the Rekluse clutch an optional extra? I believe it was available for the 2019 model..
Still listed as an accessory offered directly through Husqvarna for the new model!
All South east Asian countries including Australia China Japan, those KTM and Husqvarna 400cc below where made in Philippines,India is for Eu and africa
This came with wired wheels stock?
Yep Svartpilen gets spoked and the dual purpose tyres. Vitpilen gets alloy wheels and road tyres.
Direct competitor of this is in my opinion the Fantic Caballero 500, but i don‘t know if it‘s availble in Australia..
Greetings from Germany
Oh interesting, I hadn't heard of the Caballero 500 before now. It looks like it's coming to Australia in January 2021, however pricing is $14k AUD + ORC, so probably double the price of the Svartpilen, but it looks wicked!
Hi There! As a 193 cm person does it fits for me? What do you think? Nice review anyway. ;)
I've talked to a few taller riders who've been happy on the 401, but it will depend on your preference when it comes to bike ergos!
Thanks for the info. Best from Hungary!
really good bike but somehow it looks too small? I can't figure out feature is the cause...
The styling definitely contributes to that, with the relatively stubby tail it looks very very compact. I'm only 180 cm, so I'm by no means a big rider, but I was surprised that it doesn't feel at all cramped on the bike, for me at least.
I’m 5’6” and I’m on my tippy toes to keep it upright but it still feel comfortable
I really prefered the white/grey wheels of the 2018 and 2019 starvpilen
It makes the bike look so different :(
It did really stand out, it's amazing the difference rim or wheel colour can make to the overall impact of a bike!
I love everything of this bike, except the ground clearance, its only 145mm. The previous version was 170mm. If you want to do any offroad (light-medium) with this ground clearance is almost impossible :( Apart of this, it's an amazing bike!!
Yep, it's by no means trying to muscle into the more adventure style segment, but it should be suitable for the light stuff, where ground clearance isn't a big concern.
Hi kris can you help me what is its price..?
Absolutely, these are $7,095 Ride-Away here.
Hi. Seat is. Longer in that svart 2020???
They reckon the longer sub-frame only benefits the pillion.
Please put a shrimp on the Barbie !
Haha will do, we're finally getting the summer weather for it!
Cornering abs ?
Is the dash hard to see? It seems like a small dash size with an even smaller screen that would struggle in daylight visibility
I didn't find it an issue while riding to be honest, but then those issues tend to crop up when the sun is just in the wrong place, especially if it's part of your daily ride, so it's happening all the time.
Not too bad mate , go test ride, it’s sweet
@@MotoJournoKris would you recommend this for a first bike?
@@ryanrussell2337 Cheers, would you recommend this as a first bike for a beginner rider?
It’s my first road legal bike, took it for a run today with you guys in mind, again dash is fine, any bigger you would want colour and maybe a steering wheel. And it took me a little while for my body to adjust to the riding position and I thought of risers, but I wouldn’t now.
In the process of slowly waking it up with breathing and maybe a chip. But only when I’m comfortable. Cause it has plenty
Bro this bike which year launch in India
I've seen October 2021 and October 2022 mentioned, I'm not sure which is correct though!
Is this a rebadged ktm390???
Yep, built on the same platform. KTM own Husqvarna Motorcycles.
how reliable this bike is ?
I've had a 2021 for a few months with no major issues, interested to see how it goes to 5000, or 10,000 km.
Needs more ground clearance. If it had more ground clearance it would be a much better bike
The exhaust is a large part of that too, shame there's not a scrambler style tall exhaust that removes all the routing and collector under the belly.
Some parts r made in india and this bike is not available in india
Yep it's a bit crazy!
It's available now, but 250 only 😭
@@Gokul-oq8nb Damn, what kind of performance are you getting out of the 250 version?
@@MotoJournoKris performance is really good compared to other bike's in
250 segment, I've got mine yesterday really loving it so far ❤️
@@Gokul-oq8nb Awesome, that's great to hear! It's a great platform, I can see it being amazing even with the smaller powerplant.
Is there any chances to launch in india sir
Rumours seem to indicate a 2021 model release, with the bikes perhaps being available late this year.
@@MotoJournoKris Will something change in the model? Or would be the same as you are having!
@@bijitsharma1536 I'd guess it should be the same, but we might need to wait for an official statement to be sure.
@@MotoJournoKris YesSir 🙏🏻
The road tests have already begun for svart and vitpilen 401 in India expected before February 2021
What’s your inseam?
Mines 32 inch.
What is your height in cm?
I'm 180 cm, 32 inch inseam.
hi! how tall are you?
I'm 180cm.
Can you own a motorcycle in your county without a COVID vaccine?
For now...
👍
Kris. Hi. From Chile. You say. " Made in. India".you mean. Made in India.
For a short rider like me. that's sit is so tall. Not for me.
Yep unfortunately if you're on the shorter side, these are one of the taller options in this category.
Should be priced at $6,000
No thanks!
what INDIAN, HARLEY?
that front end is ugly and the mirrors the first thing i'd change