Alien 3's 1992 Comic Book Adaptation - How close is it to the film?
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- čas přidán 18. 01. 2020
- In 1992, Dark Horse comics released a comic book adaptation of Alien 3, which featured many moments not present in the theatrical cut of the film, but later featured in the special edition Assembly Cut of the film. How close is the comic book adaptation to these versions of the Alien 3?
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I sincerely think that Alien 3 is underrated. In spite of all of its problems, it's still a fascinating, engrossing experience, with the religious and existential tones really coming through in both the aesthetic and narrative. This story really feels like it takes place in a sort of purgatory, with all of the characters waiting for their release from it and seeing as how, at the time anyway, it seemed like as long as Ripley was alive, she would never be free from the strife and trauma that came from dealing with the Xenomorphs, it could be argued that this is one of the best viable send-offs for her character. Perhaps it could have been done better, but her fight is over and she went out on her own terms, doing what needed to be done. Idk, there's something profound about that. Anyway, I'm ranting. Alien 3 is good, maybe not the follow up to Aliens we needed, but I really like it. I'd love to see a more complete cut.
Thanks to my father taking me when I was 11 to see Alien 3 in theaters when it came out, Alien 3 has and will always have a special place in my heart.
Me too! My dad was really unhinged when he took myself and my younger brother in LaPlace, Louisiana all those years ago. At the time, I was five or six and virtually obsessed with monster films, dinosaurs, Godzilla, and anything horror and science fiction. I still remember my dad having to lie to the ticket master about our ages because the film's rating.
I love my dad for always supporting my creature feature tastes. In his defense, he would not let his young sons watch any of the 'Friday's ', 'Nightmares' , or 'Halloweens' because of how close to reality serial killers can be, but R-Rated monster flicks could be viewed with his blessing. One of the better set of memories I have was during the early nineties and dad taking us to 'Hit Video' and renting movies for the weekend.
I am not sure how appropriate this forum is for these kinds of diatribes, but I'm thankful for the opportunity to share.
I loved it because it was so hard for me to find a copy when I was a kid. It was alien and aliens everywhere and the newly released resurrection. When I finally got to see it I was so hyped and loved it. Felt very like Alien to me
I love the dialogue in Alien 3. Priceless. One of my favorite aspects of the whole thing.
"I got a wife, I got a kid, I go home on the next rotation!"
I remember watching the theatrical cut on vhs after finding in a garage sale. I liked it for what it was but then I heard about the deleted footage and the horrible production. After hearing about the assembly cut I tracked down a copy and watched it, and to me it's the canon version of Alien 3, a great movie worthy to be held up next to Alien and Aliens.
I had the complete Dark Horse Alien 3 set, in one massive book. There were scenes in it that were omitted, like the queen embryo swimming from Newt to Ripley.
I love Alien 3. Saw it in theaters twice on opening day. Loved the genesis game. Finally got too see the assembly cut just recently. Loved it, the piston/chase scenes was and always will be one of the best action sequences put to film. Especially the assembly cut version.
Yeah it's a gem, there are a lot of haters but it's their loss.
I definitely think Alien 3 gets a raw deal. It's under-appreciated to say the least.
Solid movie, Fincher tried to take the franchise "back to its roots" while still upping the stakes. Some of the editing choices were terrible but the suporting cast was phenomenal. Dutton was a pleasant surprise to fans of Roc(like me) and every line out of his mouth was gold. Too many people expected a sequel to Aliens not Alien.
I agree heartily. Alien 3 affected me in a very different way to the first two films. Beautifully haunting. Plus, the genesis game kicked ass!
I always liked it, and was happy when the Assembly Cut was released as I actually read the novelisation first and thought the parts that were cut from the theatrical version were a shame. Also the cast is truly a best-of-British lineup and all the cast really killed it. Another reason to resent Neill Blomkamp not getting to make his own movie is that we won't get Danny Webb back as an elder Morse.
I live about 10 minute drive from blast beach, which is the location for the 3rd film planet parts...
The only runner I’ve seen around there are a couple of old dudes jogging...
I love listening to your vids all the time never stop doing this man. 👌👌👌
I find movies like this and event horizon fascinating. Not necessarily the movies themselves, but the films that we didn't get to see, what they were meant to be. I would love to see a cut of alien 3 with all the footage, just to maybe see something that could have been. My opinion has changed over the years regarding alien 3. I used to hate it. The updated cut changed allot of my opinions about it. I think there is a gem underneath the muck.
The scene with Wired Bishop was one of the best! Also Ripley next to the wall with Alien right up to her face!
This is by far the best Alien Universe channel. One of the best channels period.
I really liked alien 3 , loved all the actors .
To me it's a tragic story of how the alien has ruined Ripleys life and been a curse but she keeps fighting even at the end when she is given the chance to live.
Only bad thing was that she died ending her story , Ripley is an amazing character, probably my favourite in all sci fi n even though I love Alien3
I still wanted that rumoured reboot
Yeah I agree, they shouldn't have killed Ripley. I like how each film of the trilogy is different yet still feel like an Alien movie.
Meanwhile Jonesy still waits.
Yet another cut would be okay I guess. Personally I think it's time for a redo for alien 3. If Halloween can have like 5 different film continuities. Alien should still have room for another.
Absolutely agree. They should do it while Sigourney Weaver and Michal Biehn are still around, if they wait much longer we’ll miss the chance for good.
I liked how the alien swam out of Newt and into Ripley when the EV crashed in this adaptation.
Same but it kinda ruins the reveal in the EEV bioscanner later in the film.
I dont really like it. A still developing xeno just waltzing out of its host into a new one? Makes no sense
@DR Evil You mean the same alien that can survive in the vacuum of space
@@armageddontri7 but. The point stands that they must "develop" within an organism.
They don't jump ship, or. Never had been show to. And this, in a way, contradicts what the viewer KNOWS about them.
Makes the whole thing kinda moot, if they can just leave and crawl into someone else before they're "done."
Might as well just be "The Thing" at that point.
wittyithink right I get that. What I’m arguing is that drowning by itself isn’t going to kill it, rather it’s the drowning killing the host and not making it viable for gestation. I do agree that the pre developed alien finding another host is non sense considering that it’s attached to the host until bursting. In short, drowning the alien won’t kill it but the host dying before the alien being fully gestated would
There is a three hour cut that exists. It’s the version they showed to a test audience that included the infamous Newt autopsy scene. I’d really love them to release that one day.
The Newt autopsy scene has always been on DVD/Blu-Ray (assembly cut). I know this to be true because I own 'em all. Another great video, thank you!
Where did you get the copy from ???
leepenn2492 David Giler mentions it in the making of Alien 3.
@@LeePenn2492 It was many, many years ago and it was a nine disc collection, featuring the theatrical and assembly cuts of each movie on 1 disc and the special features on another disc. There was also 1 disc that was all special features. I found the set in Future Shop for $35.00 (!!!)
Amazon (US & Canada!) are still selling different versions of the movies, head on over to Amazon to check out the different collections. Cheers!
@@WildeFyre69 - That's not what the OP is referencing; it's a much-longer version of the autopsy scene that was much more graphic. They showed it at a test screening in L.A., and it reportedly made crew members throw up after seeing how graphic it was.
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David Fincher should "fix ALIEN 3 with his total control with added scenes depicted here. Also insert Giger's design for the film.
Eduardo Rivera did giger ever finish his design work?
@DR Evil much of the creature shots in Alien3 were marionettes, not CGI.
@@philanaemic I think they should digitally remove the miniature puppet and replace it with CGI. Not something I'd ever normally say as I hate the over use of CGI today and the practical creatures in older movies. But the way they super impose the puppet into the scenes just looks terrible. The lighting is way off and gives the creature a green hue around the edges.
*love the practical effects of older movies
Yeah, erase alien 3. Newt wakes up sweaty.
This is excellent work, well done indeed. Great storytelling.
I remember buying these issues when i was a kid living in kansas. I could walk to to town to my fav comic shop NINTH INNING COMICS! i bought all my alien comics there! All thanks to alien 3!! My first alien comic was issue 4 of aliens hive! Love your posts🤘❤👏👏👏
The scene in which Ripley is falling into the Furnace, and the Queen is born; I always interpreted that scene as Ripley comforting her newly born “daughter” as they fell.
Damn! Everyone I knew saw that as hell no you dont.
Wtf? Never thought of something like that. Ripley hated these creatures as hell. Why should she comfort it than? That doesn't make any sense in contrary to her character, lol
Comforting? More like you won't get away this time and you're going down with me.
I think that's an unfortunate interpretation of her trying to restrain the alien and ensure that it ends up in the furnace.
And I say unfortunate because I think someone saw that and transferred it to the mother-daughter aspect of the ending of Alien Resurrection. Which is a film that tried to mix the first 3 films into one.
That could be approximated to trying to combine a 3-course meal into a single plate.
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I love how huge and aggressive the Xeno is depicted in this adaptation. There is nothing you can do. It has the wickedest alien grin and can rip people apart with its gigantic hands. A hall of fame Xeno for sure💯
Na the xeno in the actual movie is way more badass , it runs so fast that it literally blows through the prisoners like a giant bullet tearing their bodies apart when it hits them with it's headbutt & plus the runner/dog alien is the only xeno in the entire series that actually eats humans alive rather than just kidnap or kill them because it came from a animal host not a human one!!!! All these things are shown in the movie if u pay attention close enough!!!!! It's literally shown blowing atleast two prisoners into pieces with it's speeding headbutt & it's shown eating & munching on atleast two other prisoners in the film !!! The Alien in the comic u are referring to reminds me more of the xeno from the first film because it uses its hands on its victims alot in that film !!!!
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Agreed
33:49 dear lord jesus fuck now THATS more terrifying than any xenomorph ive seen, please make it go away 😂
This story presentation you did is amazing, especially with the comic and movie mashup at the same time.
Dude, your voice is like therapy for me. I dunno what it is, I feel safe, happy and content when I hear you ❤ love from your biggest Scottish fan ❤
You’re so kind! Thank you!
Hour of Alien Theory story telling. My nights complete!
It would be cool if Liz Shaw is the next queen alien.
I absolutely loved the dark horse comics. I wished that they could adapt those to the movie theater. I got a bad feeling that Disney is going to screw these stories/movie sequels like they did Star Wars.😪
Or maybe consider them NON CANON??? 😑
Isaac Gillaspy I don't have a problem of them decanonizing alien 3 and resurrection
Disney did much better than Lucas did with his prequels.
PC Aliens - haaay guys we just wanna be friends
@@Cargo_Bay the sequels are way worse than the prequels. The plotholes and contradictions with established lore are so great with the sequels it makes it a complete mess
Been a big fan of all your work.
Your voice is really calming. I listen at night going to sleep to the long videos of your narrations.
What's crazy is xenomorphs end up very vividly in my dreams because its all I listen to when going to sleep.
I'm a lucid dreamer and can and have controlled events in dreams. Even the next evening I go straight into events in my dream of the previous night. Mostly 2 times a week recouring dreams I have and love it❤😊
As a total ALIEN 3 - fan for me its Assembly Cut is in the same league as e.g. BLADE RUNNER. And irrespective of any run-time I would love to see Fincher's vision of this movie.
Just want to thank you for all your professionally detailed work for us undercover nerds brother....Live forever.
Its time for AT to re educate some of the brothers.
Well done, amazing vid! I'm a HUUUUGE fan of the Alien universe and I for one absolutely love the assembly cut of Alien³. It may be a little controversial, and I probably should know better than to express such an opinion online this day and age, but I actually hold it in higher regard than Aliens. The atmosphere, the dark gritty sadness, and that musical score too! It's almost like a concert watching this movie. I'd be excited to see this as it was intended to be seen, you know - before they stripped it bare and left it's soul on the cutting room floor. Even if it was 5 hours long it would be time well spent. To me, anyway.
Keep up the good work!
Your voice suits voice over for alien stories. I love accounts of the earth war, especially your telling of it.
Great video. Really liked how you cut between the movie and comic to show similarities and the differences. Time to go absorb all your videos now
58:49, WOW! That was... Amazing. It was very well done.
The art from the dark horse comics was so good it was scarier than the film
From this comic alone I can not agree. The artist is at best half decent at drawing humans and the alien looks terrible.
Xspurr yeah I see what you mean I guess it’s more about the cover art. Might be different artists than the inside
I like the subtle nuances. Awesome artwork and narration. Thanks 👍
I remember critics saying that the alien was computer animated and disliking the film for that reason.They were wrong,it was a puppet.Shows what they know !!
i'm still shocked that you can hear the face hugger scurry around the Sulaco at the end of credits of Aliens.
To me that just makes the end credits for Aliens just as eerie, especially with the sound of the wind as well.
You can?
A neat little Easter egg. Like the way you can hear Gremlins laugh when the credits finish on that film.
Interesting I never knew this gonna watch Aliens again to check this out
How did I not notice this until today?!
I like A3, it's tone is excellent. It's closes the trilogy by bringing it back to it's horror roots. I last saw the extended version, didn't realize how much they cut out. Adding it all back in as you suggested may be a mistake since that really can change pacing, look what happened to the SW Spec Editions as a good example of going overboard with additions.
I have the Dark Horse comics of Alien 3, but also the UK version that was released as a magazine. I has the comic within it, but also a short technical section,, describing things like the EEV and the planet Fiorina 161. I'm going to dig them out once I'm home again.
Your narration was really on point here. You always do a great job but I thought this was particularly sharp.
Great job and thanks, very entertaining.
I like to think that the alien on alien 3 is so hostile is because it can sense that it's around criminals that could be a threat to the queen so instead of slowly kidnapping people for host and preparing a nest it shoots to kill without taking chances
I seen you are celebrating 100,000 views congratulations 🏆
I really enjoyed what you did here. Another cut of the movie would be fascinating. Perhaps even just produce an animated version where you contribute with your amazing voice talent.
awesome video as always! I’d love to see more videos about Alien: Isolation, the story and world building in that game is incredible! it’s mine and many people’s favourite entry in the entire Alien franchise
Really good narration and video. As for Alien 3, I’m one of the few who loves it, I especially like the characters and performances of the cast. Only downside was the animation/ puppetry and how it was implemented, it was produced at a time when the landscape of film effects were shifting. I got the assembly cut a year or so ago, I’d wanted it for many years so watching it was really enjoyable. However I’m not sure I prefer it to the theatrical cut. I’m guessing I feel that way because I’ve watch Alien 3 so many times that the theatrical cut just feels like home. One thing I wish I could have is a directors commentary from Fincher. Shame we’ll never get it as I really appreciate what Fincher achieved with the film regardless of the troubles he had.
Third cut? Hell yes, as long as I don't have to buy it for the millionth time again ffs.
Class film with great cast of characters.
Nice upload matey..
Part of this film scene was made at my old works the British Steel Teesside.
I find it strange that the xenomorph did not capture Ripley and "cocoon" her or restrain her in its nest in order to keep her safe until the queen was born.
And stop killing all the potential hosts for more Xenomorphs.
Great content as always! Thank you for your efforts! I really enjoy your voice/narrations!
Every time they add something to this movie it gets better
Absolutely love your videos look forward to them in every free moment.
I still have these Comic Books safely stored away in the attic. Might bring em down today :D
AN IDEA FOR A VIDEO:
A common theme amongst all who have some kind of experience with the xenomorph is recurring nightmares. Given the horrifying aspects of the creatures and the things they do, the sounds they make, how they reproduce, their seeming invincibility at times, etc. It's not hard to figure out why they would cause nightmares, which are often brought on by stress, depression or trauma.
But, what if there was more to it than that with the xenomorph? Much of the knowledge of their species is still a mystery, but given how prevalent fear, panic, post-traumatic stress, violence and terror are concerning the bugs, could there be a more concrete cause of the fear they induce? Is it possible that they secrete or emit some kind of pheromone or bacterium that, when inhaled, ingested or otherwise enters the body, adversely affects the brain and nervous system with a cumulative effect that can induce fear and have long-lasting or even permanent effects, similar in how lead poisoning can have adverse effects on the brain and nervous system?
After all, pheromones can have a powerful effect on creatures and beings, even cause them to act almost entirely on instinct. Could this be a tool in the arsenal the beasts wield to overpower adversaries and potential hosts for procreation and growing their colonies? I think it's worthy of discussion and investigation.
Keep up the good work, bud!
Sounds like Disney should be paying you for some ideas mate.
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@@lynngatrell7965 this idea is explored in the comic series Aliens earth war, I think it was.
Less so via pheromones but more through the psychic links they have with each other highlighted in the Aliens Labyrinth series. A corporation manage to bring back an imprisoned queen to earth but her psychic like abilities start seeping in to affecting the human population nearby with nightmares and more.
Absolutely love this channel. Awesome narrations Alien Theory!
Yeah this is definitely 1 of your best podcasts it’s a great comparison to the film , I have searched for this GN on Amazon no luck yet! Congrats on 100k it’s a fantastic video keep up the great work love your channel
I love these u are truly gifted at production. Thank you!
"there's no real monsters" ...ends up on a planet full of them
Another amazing video. Thanks Alien Theory
I would absolutely love to see an ultmat 3rd cut by David Fincher. I love all the Alien films. And I still really enjoy Alien 3, regardless of some of the misguided hate. I never knew about the issues with production up until a handful of years ago, so now I understand why we got the film we did. You did a great job bringing this all together. I really enjoy your narrations. Thanks again, you keep making em, I'll keep watching em. Stay Frosty!!😉✌
I read Alien 3 comic like 2 years ago. Its pretty good. But this video is just awesome.
Thank you very much. One hour of my life well spent.
Amazing thank you, do this with all versions of the comics and in long form, just re watched Aliens 3 and this was fun combined with the film
Awesome job!!! Thanks I really love this channel
I've always loved Alien 3 and have never understood the hate it gets. This comic version doesn't offer much new but shades of difference and insight. Wild that they didn't (or perhaps weren't allowed to) capture a better likeness of Ripley.
This is great to listen to while I clean. Helps keep me motivated. 😊. Thank you! 🥰
I still have these issues in storage somewhere back in the US. I'll have to see if I can find them when we move back home this year.
This is a great analysis i like your videos.
@3:36 "Which is where the bitch stays until the finale of this story" 😂
Great video, thank you for making this.
Very much enjoyed this ! Keep it up , Well done !
One of your best videos. Thank you.
Honestly the best version of this film would just be to add the deleted scenes that haven't been used yet & edit them into the film properly & upgrade the rod puppet effects into cgi & everyone else would love this movie!!!! I already think its perfect the way it is but ive been a fan since the early 90's & im not a algorithm chaser like most of the ppl that hate this film only because other fans told them they hate it 😂
Alien 3 is just as good as the first two films!!!! The only thing its missing is a bit more character development for the side characters & a bit better story but other than that , its just as good as the first two films , i actually like this film better & its the only one i can watch on a regular basis without getting bored & needing a break from it & this is comming from someone that has been watching all the films literally ever since the year 1995!!!!
I Have those late 80’s and early 90’s comic book series. They were a Really Good read.
31:50 that's a nice shot, Dillon tossing the cigar to Rip, I wish they included in some film adaptation.
how come Ripley is a lieutenant now? she was a warrant officer in the first, demoted to nothing in the second. and when did she have Dog Tags?
Yes; we need *the* Directors Cut!
As always your comic reviews are the best . I did find a newer guy with under 1k subs who gives you a run for your money and thats saying something . Your great at these and I love watching them .
The alien 3 Is one of the most interesting mutiuniversal focal points.
With so many different versions existing slash non existing.
Alien 3 is by far the darkest & most brutal film in the series & my favorite regardless if its flawed unlike the first two masterpieces , plus i luv the religious symbolism throughout the entire movie basically making the murderers & rapists her 12 apostles to her Christ like messiah they also die with her like the two murderers that died alongside Christ , it also has the best ending with the ghost of Ripley signing off from the Nostromo representing the Alpha & Omega: the beginning and the end!!!! I think this film is completely underrated even for all the hell David Fincher & crew had to go through , they still pulled off something close to a masterpiece , all 3 Alien films were rushed during production but this was the only one that did not have any type of script written before it was green lit by the studio either way Ridley , James, & David all pulled off in my opinion the best horror/sci-fi trilogy in history!!!!!! Alien Resurrection was ok but not nearly on par with the first 3 films yet nobody bashes it like they do with Alien 3 which pisses me off cuz i still consider this a masterpiece in its own right!!!!! Fuck the critics & fuck 20thcenturyfox for being money hungry dogs!!!!
Your narrating is fucking the best. If you could do some more comic book readings that would be stellar.
That Eulogy scene always gives me goosebumps 😨👍💯
Thanks for the read man it was dope. I love alien 3 it’s an awesome movie, I do hope that David does do his directors cut someday... I won’t hold my breath for it.
Excellent video dude you read it very well!👍
Great adaptation,loved it bro....
I'm not a fan of the comic but my god your reading off it was so good. You really should do audio tapes or something.
Really interesting stuff , for me the actors really make this film stand out , it's like a sci fi Shakespeare play.
Favourite line - it's alright to say shit , it ain't against god
My favorite was “Take off, the brothers and me need to discuss matters of the spirit.” It was at that moment he redeemed himself in my eyes.
LOL, I've always loved the way Boggs says, "SHADDUP." Before he says, "There's a right to say shit."
I can't imagine how long this took to edit. Gg's mate!
I actually read this comic online 3 months ago!😊 It's very spectacular to read.
Your material is outstanding
Magnificent done! I luv this Chanel.
Alien and Aliens will always be my favorite. I really appreciate Alien now that I’m older. Alien Isolation should be made into a movie too.
Best narration ever!! I didn’t liked Alien 3 for all the gaps in the plot, but after watching this video..wow.. I like it.
People hating on this film kill me bra,no matter what u think of alien 3 its 1 of the fastest frightening movies ever made and intelligent with a supercast as well, I think a rerelease is overdue, hopefully Disney will do the right thing first 3 films only, revisting the horror of this franchise.
I love your story telling thank you!
I was a nurse that was addicted to my prescribed morphine. I was working as the only medical staff at a camp for those with special needs and one day I accidentally administered Valium to a camper thanks to me being on such a strong dose of morphine. I thought I was royally fucked and was afraid the camper was going to die but fortunately they survived. the camper was deaf and of slow mind and nobody knew sign language so nobody understood what was going on, especially why the camper slept for so long. I still feel terrible over it all.
Thanks for your good work.
The original cut was 3 hours long, that's what I read in the book dissecting aliens, there are massive amounts missing . The chest buster shot was added because T2 had a simular ending where the t101 lowered into a furnace
Great video.. Thanks.