Perfection? Stem Separation In FL Studio & Serato Sample * Original Stem Comparison
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- In this video, I do a stem separation comparison. The original session stems (vocals, drums, bass & instruments) FL Studio’s beta stem separation and Serato Samples stem separation. How close is this technology getting to perfection?
Perfection? Stem Separation In FL Studio & Serato Sample * Original Stem Comparison
FL Studio 21.2 Beta 2 with FL Cloud, Stem Separation, Kepler
Installer Versions
Windows: FL Studio 21.1.99.3788
macOS: FL Studio 21.1.99.3348
Serato Sample 2.0
#flstudio #seratosample #wilmaker
Versions
FL Studio 21.2 Beta 2 with FL Cloud, Stem Separation, Kepler
Installer Versions
Windows: FL Studio 21.1.99.3788
macOS: FL Studio 21.1.99.3348
Serato Sample 2.0
i way expected for Serato to be better because their time stretch and repitching algorithms are the best in the business but FL did a WAY better job. Anyone saying Serato needs their ears checked there is VASTLY more artifacts and pumping in the Serato stems. FL did a great job with this feature.
I thought Serato would have an advantage for the same reasons. I was pretty impressed with Serato when it was first released especially compared to RX9. But I was really surprised by what FL did and am looking forward to the official release. I'm also thankful that both companies include these in their updates vs charge to update as iZotope does with the RX series.
Great experiment. Always nice to have the ground truth.
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Fantastic comparison video!
Really appreciate it! Thank you 🙌🏼
Nice comparison video, I guess it really comes down to what you gonna use it for and also what song the extraction is from. This is enough for a Dj to blend 2 songs together for a excellent remix. I’m a HipHop Boom style producer and this is way more than enough to chop and remix to something new. It’s a win win 🏆, AiI . If HipHop produces in the 90’s. Had this……..OMG
Thank you appreciate it! I agree it can really come down to what you are using the samples for. I do think for boom bap it can work really well cause you don't normally look for the cleanest samples to use anyway. This just gives producers so many more ways to use samples now. I can only imagine what producers in the 90's are thinking. First, there's pretty much unlimited sample time and now there's stem separation lol.
Overall, fl studio sounds better to me than serato sample.
That’s how I felt. I wonder if it will be improved upon when actually released.
we have to consider your original may not be mastered professionally so extracts for Serato and FL may vary due to differences in Mastered frequencies from extracting from your mix The Mastered extracts may be cleaner... I need to do a comparison myself to see if what I am saying makes sense. Thanks for the example. I don't own either but I have everything else, Logic, PT, Ableton, MPC... so why not have these just because lol.
Very True, I chose to use a track I’d done myself vs use a commercial track that could get taken down for copyright reasons.
FL Studio is the win.
I agree. It’s beta also so there’s a chance it could be improved upon when it’s fully released.
The problem with all stem separation tools is that the side chaining in the mixing process is still there, you can hear where the producers side chained the drums cutting through the melody
Very true. As of now. It’s still a hit and miss if I’d want to use the stem. It’s cool that the option is there and becoming more usable. Nothing come close to the original stem though.
@@wilmaker can be less obvious in certain tracks and use some post processing can make it usable , abit of compression on the vocals really helps maintain some ballance...
FlStudios stem separation is very good for it still being in Beta.
I agree 💯. Looking forward to the official release.
Add Tracktion Waveform to the mix, they've got built in stem seperation too
Thanks. I’ll have to look into that.
@@wilmakeradd koala sampler then
Tracktions Stem Separation is not that good and it lags
I agree. Serato new stem separation algorithm was updated. 2024 it sounds way better than fl studio…. They both great apps
I’m going to have to check out Seratos update! I agree they both are.
Bruh, you gotta be more specific of which 'beta version' you used. Various beta's always get released from time to time
My bad, its listed FL Studio 21.2 Beta 2 with FL Cloud, Stem Separation, Kepler
The installers on the page are.
Windows: FL Studio 21.1.99.3788
macOS: FL Studio 21.1.99.3348
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Thanks!
How to extract stems from audio (Wav or MP3) in ProTools? Please
Pro Tools doesn't offer Stem Separation. I haven't tried it but I read studio.gaudiolab.io/ offers free Stem Separation.
Huge thanks for the website and reply. Have a nice day
@@mehdiqurbanli No problem! Happy to help!
Hands Down , Serato Sample Separation,, destroy's FL on clarity
At the beginning of the drum loop i thought the same. But as I kept playing the drum loop from Serato, it started to sound like it had a phaser on it. If I was to take just a small section of the sample though. I agree. The cleanest parts were from Serato. FL was consistent though. Maybe chop samples in Serato and remix a song in FL?
Get your ears checked
@@rogerp.4489 I think you need to see a doctor as I have them both and made a lot of comparisons with time !!! it's being more than 6 month's in the use and made remixes that sound phenomenal on FL ... not the same result from serato !!!
Can we route the separate stems for separate processing? Is that possible?
Yes. You can add processing to your drums, instruments, bass and vocals independently. You just need to assign them to a track on your mixer.
I want to seperate the drumtrack in its singe component s like hihat, snare and so force...how can I do that...Can it be done by using fl studio?
You’ll have to chop each individual drum hit in FL Studio. RipX offers that in there stem separation. I did a review if you want to check it out.
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The protools algotithm is by fart the best.
FL Studio?
I was just trolling. lol But on a real note do you know if FL studio has just implemented the Demucs Algorithm "under the hood" to do this stem seperation? Or something else? Demucs is an A.I. machine learning model invented by facebook. Demucs v4 is supposedly the best thing that exists in the world right now for this task. So if FL is sounding really phenomenal I would put my money on it using Demucs. @@wilmaker
lol no worries. I’m not sure which algorithm it uses. But I heard snippets from a new daw or at least new to me called RipX daw. It sounds cleaner than The FL stem separation. At least the example I hear.
Fl studio takes away the reverb.
It really does. If it kept the reverb it would probably sound better.