They say things "run in three's" So with that being said, what are the best German ships period and why.... 1. Schlieffen...in the Marvel Universe it could be Galactus. 2. Prinz Rupprecht.....this thing is a Tier 8 juggernaut....guns, secondaries, torpeedies, speed...sheesh. 3. Brandenburg....i feel empathy for those who don't have this ship. It's good. It's better than good. Limited by 305's a bit, but that will make ya a better player, ya just have to aim where it can hurt, again secondaries, torpeedies, armor, speed and a manual V-8. 4. Tirpitz.....a brawlers' brawler out there....with torpeedies! 5. Scharnhorst.....a great cruiser killer, with torpeedies, speed, armor, fun fun and fun. 6. Bayern....the original brawler. This floating anvil will teach ya how to brawl. 7. Bismarck.....plenty of buffs have improved this ship to be very competitive, a great brawler, capable secondaries, wonderful armor and speed. Main guns are capable of causing a variety of damage. 8. Hipper.....may be one of the very best, if not the best Tier 7 tech-tree cruiser, it hits hard, it can brawl, and it can torp ya, babydoll. VII Hipper has a LOT of content devoted to this ship as demonstrable evidence. 9. Siegfried.....the Empathy Express will stop at every station with a lonely passenger who failed to acquire this ship in that campaign. Biggest guns on any cruiser, hoo-boy it can brawl, and it's got torpeedies and good AA...it shot down 38 planes with it in a Kraken game for me. 10. Mainz....The Darth Vader of Tier 7 cruisers because it's the plainly sadistic...just look at those stats... 11. Konigsberg.....best Tier 4 cruiser...and it's very fun to play. 12. Prinz Eugen....it's said that it needs a buff and may but I still find this ship to be quite effective. It's lost in what is a very crowded Tier 7 German roster of cruisers. 13. Yorck......don't sleep on the Yorck, it can F**K up your shit if ya disrespect it out there with a smart player. I've seen Yorcks to bad things to deserving opponents including myself. 14. Prinz Heinrich ......very underrated battlecruiser. It can punch. above its weight class. 15. (Tie) Zieten & Gneisenau.....both misunderstood ships. Firstly let's address Gneisenau...it's fast, it has very good armor, it has torpeedies, it loves to brawl in tight spaces so 5-8 km's is where ya want to live in this thing for those main guns to work for ya. Try a speed build on this ship....you'll find the red team gets nervous when you go right at em and it's a great cap stealer. Zieten....it's a very big Nurnberg....great for kiting, it will brawl, the guns hit hard, armor is good BUT ya need to be a bit careful with Zeiten, great secondaries, good speed, and it's got those torpeedies baby! This thing will abuse both DD's and CC's very effectively and cause a lot of damage kiting...do NOT ever chase a Zieten when it's kiting. 16. GrAf SpEe......This baby is fun to play, gotta be careful with it, it must brawl strictly on its terms, but it will wreck cruisers, upsetting DD's, and hurt BB's who foolishly dismiss it. 17. The DD's.....frankly I think the tech tree from Tier 4 through L is very, very good and the second tech-tree is also very good. The only one's I did not care for is the Z-39 and Z-44, but I do say that the T-61 and Z-35 are fantastic DD's. 18. The Weimar Debacle ...... Shoulda kept the damn thing at Tier 6, it's still dangerous at Tier 7, however it lost its luster when sharing space with the Mainz at that crowded Tier...At Tier 6 it was a floating demon that reigned supreme in hellfire damnation. If ya missed it at Tier 6, then you missed the horror movie that was Tier VI Weimar. It was a classic. Those were the days..... Honorable mentions go to...... 1. Odin....very underrated ship, to me it's a supercruiser that can kick BB's square in the nuts. ouch. 2. Pommern.....If Bismarck were re-imagined, it could be in THIS form, very good ship to play, secondaries are effective, main guns are good, armor, speed and torpeedies, lousy Type 9 camo though. 3. FdG.......My highest Tier 8 game is with this particular ship at 240,000 damage. I think it's a very good BB, ya got all the stuff to brawl with it and its fun to play. The thing is that the battlecruisers offer more variety via options so it got curb-stomped by the community, but German mains will appreciate the FdG for what it can do, which is plenty. 4. The Gee Kay......big, powerful, kinda slow and clumsy, well-armored, good secondaries, 420's can obliterate, recent buff has helped for certain, but...what is with the sub-par sonar??? It needs another adjustment, but with this ship, it's a higher skill floor because of the attention it can attract out there. I like the G.K. but it's a situational kinda ship, at least for me. 5. Munchen.....a severely forgotten and underrated Tier 6 premium cruiser. She's a damage warrior in high heels... 5. Nurnberg.....yeah, it can be blown up, but many many cruisers can be blown up so what else is new? This ship can deal damage at any Vegas casino faster than Ocean's 11...in the right hands. It requires a very good cruiser player to maximize its output and impact....in my opinion. So there ya have it... uh no, no ya don't.... I forgot about the Agir. whoops.... I'll put it this way, if you have the Agir then the Schroeder may have looked less desirable to you, it sure did for me. But if you didn't acquire the Agir, then the Schroeder may have contained some appeal...the thing is the Schroeder isn't the Agir, so one is in a better state of mind who has the Agir me thinks. This just explained nothing about the Agir, so we'll go with a visual....if the Agir was a boxer, it would be Roberto Duran. If Schroeder were a boxer, it would be Oscar De La Hoya... I prefer the hitter who has the hands of stone.
The one that really deserves that title is Anhalt. It has torpedoes in every corner, it is resistant, it does a lot of damage, it has many triple turrets, it is fast, agile and the best thing is that it is a tier VII Premium so a good battle with it ensures you a good profit and even more so if you have days of premium.
It’s kinda weird how, imo, the best secondary ship is Schroeder. Those secondaries account for 70% of my kills with that ship. That 32mm pen shreds everything. And the stealth allows for devastating ambushes.
Spartan I don’t know if you have but give anhalt a chance (if you have it) when you have hood traverse and reload on the main guns they are monstrous, the best bb DPM at tier 7, the AP shreds superstructures and broadsides and the HE does massive damage with each salvo
I respect spartan,he actually live streams and brawls,and doesn't do ehat the other content creators do,only posting videos they choose ,keep it up spartan.
Just watched ur shliffen game "I love her" u had it all skill/some good fortune too I might add but what a good game very enjoyable and educational too thanks
Plus, I notice you post videos where your team is a team . Most people play with randoms, so it's hit and miss on how a player can perform due to team participation or lack of team participation.
Good game Spartan! Schlieffen is pretty strong in the right hands for sure. I truly think that at T8/LT Agïr is battleship that identifies as a cruiser lol.
Well, I guess since I just unlocked the GK and can't stand it whatsoever, I'm gonna get this for my bureau. And I have personal beef with the Bismarck now.
After nearly 300 games in the Azuma and about 1.1 million xp in it…. I can definitively say, without any doubt in my heart, that the thing NEEDS a mobility, AA, sonar range, and superstructure saturation buff. Maybe give it sticky shot too. These changes only make it more viable and not over powered. There’s no reason it needs to have the second worst turn time of all battleships, there’s no reason it should get either only AA boost for its mediocre AA, only fighter craft, and a 4.1 km sonar as another option. If that’s all you’re going to give it, then make them either recharge faster or see farther. Make the booster better and buff the AA so it can be more then just a stat on the card. Then the super structure…. It’s already massive, shots go in from the top and often penetrate the deck… that’s fine, but I don’t also need people just no skulking my face with their low caliber 203 mmAP because wargaming thought it was funny to make the armor thick enough for it to fuse…. It should be just a bit better then it is. It’s held back by really dumb design choices
The problem with these German BCs is they give up way too much defense for more offense. You can easily kneecap them by just burning them down. One surviving till the end of the match is a rarity. They don’t even have good armor like Soviet BBs.
I love Schlieffen but I think that the main BB line is easier to play because they have icebreakers and Turtleback armour. If you know what you’re doing then the BC line is better
If only the Kurfurst could have a fraction of the Schliefens power. Its secondaries are better, guns are arguably better, torpedoes and speed is a huge benefit
Wargaming should add the option to vote for maps and also have an option to play until 1 team has no ships left and no time limit. It will add new things to the game and more fun again
I’m a us main , but I recently been playing Germany , I can’t stay alive nearly as much as us ships I know there different but I just can’t understand lol how to play German ships
Hey how 'bout that? Two comments from Moony... In the spirit of the Olympics.... Let's pretend this game is an Olympic Event. If you the reader were charged with putting together a 9-member dream team to represent the U.S. of A , who would ya pick? If you're from another country, go ahead a weigh in on players from your country as well. Discuss!
Tirpitz is the Best ❤ Acceracy, Torpedoes, armor and History of existing and decent AA .... the only gimick of schlieffen in that case is..... secundarys... yeahhh... works out nowdays with farming carriers and stealth torp dds.
Schlieffen is the only legend ship for 30 mil or 5k dubs that I think is overall worth it, with Zao very close. Vermont I just don’t think is all that amazing in our game, and I’m not a carrier main, so.
Update on Monday will be my last one after 4 years of this game if they don’t fix all that rng and „we don’t let you send broadside cruiser back to port from 6km“
They say things "run in three's"
So with that being said, what are the best German ships period and why....
1. Schlieffen...in the Marvel Universe it could be Galactus.
2. Prinz Rupprecht.....this thing is a Tier 8 juggernaut....guns, secondaries, torpeedies, speed...sheesh.
3. Brandenburg....i feel empathy for those who don't have this ship. It's good. It's better than good. Limited by 305's a bit, but that will make ya a better player, ya just have to aim where it can hurt, again secondaries, torpeedies, armor, speed and a manual V-8.
4. Tirpitz.....a brawlers' brawler out there....with torpeedies!
5. Scharnhorst.....a great cruiser killer, with torpeedies, speed, armor, fun fun and fun.
6. Bayern....the original brawler. This floating anvil will teach ya how to brawl.
7. Bismarck.....plenty of buffs have improved this ship to be very competitive, a great brawler, capable secondaries, wonderful armor and speed. Main guns are capable of causing a variety of damage.
8. Hipper.....may be one of the very best, if not the best Tier 7 tech-tree cruiser, it hits hard, it can brawl, and it can torp ya, babydoll. VII Hipper has a LOT of content devoted to this ship as demonstrable evidence.
9. Siegfried.....the Empathy Express will stop at every station with a lonely passenger who failed to acquire this ship in that campaign. Biggest guns on any cruiser, hoo-boy it can brawl, and it's got torpeedies and good AA...it shot down 38 planes with it in a Kraken game for me.
10. Mainz....The Darth Vader of Tier 7 cruisers because it's the plainly sadistic...just look at those stats...
11. Konigsberg.....best Tier 4 cruiser...and it's very fun to play.
12. Prinz Eugen....it's said that it needs a buff and may but I still find this ship to be quite effective. It's lost in what is a very crowded Tier 7 German roster of cruisers.
13. Yorck......don't sleep on the Yorck, it can F**K up your shit if ya disrespect it out there with a smart player. I've seen Yorcks to bad things to deserving opponents including myself.
14. Prinz Heinrich ......very underrated battlecruiser. It can punch. above its weight class.
15. (Tie) Zieten & Gneisenau.....both misunderstood ships. Firstly let's address Gneisenau...it's fast, it has very good armor, it has torpeedies, it loves to brawl in tight spaces so 5-8 km's is where ya want to live in this thing for those main guns to work for ya. Try a speed build on this ship....you'll find the red team gets nervous when you go right at em and it's a great cap stealer.
Zieten....it's a very big Nurnberg....great for kiting, it will brawl, the guns hit hard, armor is good BUT ya need to be a bit careful with Zeiten, great secondaries, good speed, and it's got those torpeedies baby! This thing will abuse both DD's and CC's very effectively and cause a lot of damage kiting...do NOT ever chase a Zieten when it's kiting.
16. GrAf SpEe......This baby is fun to play, gotta be careful with it, it must brawl strictly on its terms, but it will wreck cruisers, upsetting DD's, and hurt BB's who foolishly dismiss it.
17. The DD's.....frankly I think the tech tree from Tier 4 through L is very, very good and the second tech-tree is also very good. The only one's I did not care for is the Z-39 and Z-44, but I do say that the T-61 and Z-35 are fantastic DD's.
18. The Weimar Debacle ......
Shoulda kept the damn thing at Tier 6, it's still dangerous at Tier 7, however it lost its luster when sharing space with the Mainz at that crowded Tier...At Tier 6 it was a floating demon that reigned supreme in hellfire damnation. If ya missed it at Tier 6, then you missed the horror movie that was Tier VI Weimar. It was a classic.
Those were the days.....
Honorable mentions go to......
1. Odin....very underrated ship, to me it's a supercruiser that can kick BB's square in the nuts. ouch.
2. Pommern.....If Bismarck were re-imagined, it could be in THIS form, very good ship to play, secondaries are effective, main guns are good, armor, speed and torpeedies, lousy Type 9 camo though.
3. FdG.......My highest Tier 8 game is with this particular ship at 240,000 damage. I think it's a very good BB, ya got all the stuff to brawl with it and its fun to play. The thing is that the battlecruisers offer more variety via options so it got curb-stomped by the community, but German mains will appreciate the FdG for what it can do, which is plenty.
4. The Gee Kay......big, powerful, kinda slow and clumsy, well-armored, good secondaries, 420's can obliterate, recent buff has helped for certain, but...what is with the sub-par sonar??? It needs another adjustment, but with this ship, it's a higher skill floor because of the attention it can attract out there. I like the G.K. but it's a situational kinda ship, at least for me.
5. Munchen.....a severely forgotten and underrated Tier 6 premium cruiser. She's a damage warrior in high heels...
5. Nurnberg.....yeah, it can be blown up, but many many cruisers can be blown up so what else is new? This ship can deal damage at any Vegas casino faster than Ocean's 11...in the right hands. It requires a very good cruiser player to maximize its output and impact....in my opinion.
So there ya have it...
uh no, no ya don't....
I forgot about the Agir.
whoops....
I'll put it this way, if you have the Agir then the Schroeder may have looked less desirable to you, it sure did for me. But if you didn't acquire the Agir, then the Schroeder may have contained some appeal...the thing is the Schroeder isn't the Agir, so one is in a better state of mind who has the Agir me thinks.
This just explained nothing about the Agir, so we'll go with a visual....if the Agir was a boxer, it would be Roberto Duran. If Schroeder were a boxer, it would be Oscar De La Hoya...
I prefer the hitter who has the hands of stone.
The one that really deserves that title is Anhalt. It has torpedoes in every corner, it is resistant, it does a lot of damage, it has many triple turrets, it is fast, agile and the best thing is that it is a tier VII Premium so a good battle with it ensures you a good profit and even more so if you have days of premium.
Lol
It’s kinda weird how, imo, the best secondary ship is Schroeder. Those secondaries account for 70% of my kills with that ship. That 32mm pen shreds everything. And the stealth allows for devastating ambushes.
Thanks spartan you help me learn new things in the gamr
Happy to help!
Anyone else notice how spartan was on exactly 111,000 damage before engaging the Yammy and Musashi
Spartan I don’t know if you have but give anhalt a chance (if you have it) when you have hood traverse and reload on the main guns they are monstrous, the best bb DPM at tier 7, the AP shreds superstructures and broadsides and the HE does massive damage with each salvo
Don't have it
@@SpartanElite43 oh ok
I respect spartan,he actually live streams and brawls,and doesn't do ehat the other content creators do,only posting videos they choose ,keep it up spartan.
Just watched ur shliffen game "I love her" u had it all skill/some good fortune too I might add but what a good game very enjoyable and educational too thanks
Glad you enjoyed
A little off topic but I played a match in the Colorado today and it ended in a draw, first time in two years or so that I’ve ever drawn in a battle
Working towards the Schlieffen right now. Two segments away from her
Noice
NOICE@@SpartanElite43
i m thinking of buying the project
@@DomiFox-we5nh it'll be worth it in the end
Plus, I notice you post videos where your team is a team . Most people play with randoms, so it's hit and miss on how a player can perform due to team participation or lack of team participation.
Good game Spartan! Schlieffen is pretty strong in the right hands for sure. I truly think that at T8/LT Agïr is battleship that identifies as a cruiser lol.
Well, I guess since I just unlocked the GK and can't stand it whatsoever, I'm gonna get this for my bureau. And I have personal beef with the Bismarck now.
😄
Schlieffen gives me an average 200k and 2 kills every game. It's soooooo good
Still on the Koniq, the cruisers I was shooting were splitting my shells like Moses and the Red Sea from 8km. Go figure.
After nearly 300 games in the Azuma and about 1.1 million xp in it…. I can definitively say, without any doubt in my heart, that the thing NEEDS a mobility, AA, sonar range, and superstructure saturation buff.
Maybe give it sticky shot too. These changes only make it more viable and not over powered.
There’s no reason it needs to have the second worst turn time of all battleships, there’s no reason it should get either only AA boost for its mediocre AA, only fighter craft, and a 4.1 km sonar as another option. If that’s all you’re going to give it, then make them either recharge faster or see farther.
Make the booster better and buff the AA so it can be more then just a stat on the card.
Then the super structure…. It’s already massive, shots go in from the top and often penetrate the deck… that’s fine, but I don’t also need people just no skulking my face with their low caliber 203 mmAP because wargaming thought it was funny to make the armor thick enough for it to fuse….
It should be just a bit better then it is. It’s held back by really dumb design choices
Yesterday I had a round with the Bismarck and scored 367 hits with the Secendary😂
I only have to the mackensen, but I would take the German main BB line over the battle cruisers any day of the week
Just keep grinding they get way better
to be fair, the BC line kinda sucks ass until you reach Prinz Heinrich or Zieten, when you actually get good secondaries.
The problem with these German BCs is they give up way too much defense for more offense. You can easily kneecap them by just burning them down. One surviving till the end of the match is a rarity. They don’t even have good armor like Soviet BBs.
I love Schlieffen but I think that the main BB line is easier to play because they have icebreakers and Turtleback armour. If you know what you’re doing then the BC line is better
I will soon have this one. Poor tier economics will keep it not played much. But it will get played.
Yes. It is. Had a good game in old krusty kurfurst this morning but queefen is the best.
If only the Kurfurst could have a fraction of the Schliefens power. Its secondaries are better, guns are arguably better, torpedoes and speed is a huge benefit
I totally agree with this statement. Schlieffen is the king of the german BB's but i have to say Brandenburg is a close 2nd for me
Oh and master Spartan if you still play modern warships the yamato got a buff on that game she got an accuracy buff
Wargaming should add the option to vote for maps and also have an option to play until 1 team has no ships left and no time limit. It will add new things to the game and more fun again
Agreed😊
I just pulled ba Montana on my 18 crate lol im so happy
Still learning, thanks
I definitely enjoy the German battle cruisers.
To be fair, it’s best at each tier that maters 😂
My Bismarck your sh*tshow and you going back to port early 😂😂😂😂😂
I do good in Bismarck. So to me its play style .
06:00 poor mino lol
Never feel bad for Minos
Bismarck needs a upgrade so it seems
I might go for this ship next
I’m a us main , but I recently been playing Germany , I can’t stay alive nearly as much as us ships I know there different but I just can’t understand lol how to play German ships
FDG is a monster awsome she’s worth the price
No just no
Here we go!
InJUST GOT YAMATO and 3v1 and won it by myself against a GK,Alaska, and Colbert
Awesome
Nice
@@PUG9701 Thanks
do some T 5 BB how many months did it to take you to get that ship?
Bruh Bismarck is a literal imperial storm trooper cant even shoot straight
Hahaha
@@SpartanElite43 yeah had to make it a star wars joke with Bismarck
You're not wrong...secondaries ate useless without booster same with main guns tho
Also, you rock hide, not assualt with the team . So the best ship for hiding behind rocks does not equal best german battleships in general.
Hey how 'bout that?
Two comments from Moony...
In the spirit of the Olympics....
Let's pretend this game is an Olympic Event.
If you the reader were charged with putting together a 9-member dream team to represent the U.S. of A , who would ya pick?
If you're from another country, go ahead a weigh in on players from your country as well.
Discuss!
That's actually an interesting idea
David what are the differences between the commander you're running and sillyaxx she's the one I did not get unfortunately
Mainly secondary reload time
let the goose loose
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Why was that Venezia using HE instead of SAP uncle Spartan?
Because they don't know how to aim and use SAP properly is my guess
Because they don't know how to aim and use SAP properly is my guess
Can ya do the tirpizt plz? Next time?
Tirpitz is the Best ❤ Acceracy, Torpedoes, armor and History of existing and decent AA .... the only gimick of schlieffen in that case is..... secundarys... yeahhh... works out nowdays with farming carriers and stealth torp dds.
Schlieffen eats Tirpitz for breakfast.. hell Zieten eats Tirpitz for breakfast and I like Tirpitz
Honestly it’s the fact they’re just to easy to counter at higher tiers why I stopped playing them
Schlieffen is the only legend ship for 30 mil or 5k dubs that I think is overall worth it, with Zao very close. Vermont I just don’t think is all that amazing in our game, and I’m not a carrier main, so.
What ever ship u use is the best
The best battleship is the prince ruppteaght
Never had a bad game on it scliefffen is so unpredictable very susI find
the best german battleship is schroeder. its without question.
Update on Monday will be my last one after 4 years of this game if they don’t fix all that rng and „we don’t let you send broadside cruiser back to port from 6km“
I"ve noticed it's the rule not the exception since the hybrid BB update. Midrange salvos have gone from ludicrous to plaid.
Why don't you play the GK
GK is underwhelming tho probably second of the worst Tier legendary BBs but it was recently buffed not sure about now
Pls play gk
Siegfried is best German battleship(and Gneisenau)
Gneis is still to this day, my favorite ship.
@@KMSDerpitz she’s still tied today with Alaska Siegfried and Napoli for first.
Day 35 of asking Spartan to make a video with a meme gunboat build Shimakaze
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How can i get this Ship ??
Buy the bureau project in the store and research it in bureau
@@SpartanElite43 i hate bureau projects, how can i skip this? Buy with real $ …
Ji
Hi
Brandenburg is the best german ship
No
@@SpartanElite43 Spartan, which ship do you think deserves that tittle?
@@unnpc2814 Schlieffen is the Best German Ship with Mainz being a Close Second
Don’t have either, but from experience of fighting against both…I would have to agree. Brandenburg FTW
@@SpartanElite43 Thanks por answering!
187k dmg and still whining about RNG? Victim
The only one whining seems to be you there was no whining in this...