Should I buy the Fujifilm X-T5, Fujifilm X-H2 or the Lumix S5iiX camera?
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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2024
- I need a new camera and I'm trying to decide between the Fujifilm X-T5, Fujifilm X-H2 or the Panasonic Lumix S5iix.
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I own the S5II and the X-H2, and the Panasonic is the clear choice. Shared L mount lenses, better autofocus than Fuji, the video quality and tools are freakin amazing. It’s the best video footage I have ever seen out of a hybrid camera. V-log is amazing too, so easy to make look good. It’s my personal favourite camera, and I own an embarrassing number of cameras. Don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions.
Thanks Mark - really helpful!!
What’s the Panasonic like for stills photography?
Fantastic!@@ChrisOrange
@@ChrisOrange I think it's good. I'm happy with the RAW files. One bit of a quirk, if you use single focus mode, rather than continuous, the autofocus is contrast based rather than phase detect. It still works, but it less perfect. I suspect it’s probably still as good as the Leica, but it’s not like a Sony, or as good as the camera is in continuous mode.
@@markwiemelsI think it is DFD based in AFS only with lenses that support DFD. So only the Panasonic and some Leica lenses. The Sigma lenses do not support DFD and thus use PDAF even in AFS
I've been using the x_t5, heavily, since it came out. If it turns out to be between the X-H2 and the X-t5, I would advise to handle both for a few long minutes before deciding. The X-t5 is simply a joy to use, I can't think of any other way to put it (ok, I do like the plain grip added). The battery lasts forever, menus are more intuitive than most, autofocus is damn good, including in very low light - I put the front button to turn on/off auto eye because that can sometimes catch an eye in the background. Haven't had a camera I enjoyed shooting so much since my old Canon F1 film camera.
amazing - thanks for sharing that. Really helpful info!
I have the Fuji XT20, and recently sold my XT-4, prefering to keep the X-T20 over the XT4 in order to have something small and portable. I picked up the Lumix S5ii when it came out last year. I absolutely love it and am not looking back.
Awesome. Looking forward to seeing your Lumix S5iix unboxing video ;)
😂 will see…
@@ChrisOrange Haha. Fujifilm and Lumix both excellent choices. You'll have a good time either way
Sold Xt5, bought Nikon Zf and love it for landscapes etc.
I own the XT5 and have sold so many prints fron this ..sold 600 calendars also ...mostly xt5 pics... I trust thus camera...that said I have a GFX50S ii now but firmly keeping my XT5 it's phenomenal piece of gear ⚙️ 👌 🙌
Lumix, no question about it. Amazing camera, L mount glass, no brainer.
Hi Chris. I would personally go for the LUMIX S5IIX. Its lenses are compatible with your Leica SL and it’s a fabulous camera. The video specs are off the scale good and now the S5’s have phase detection autofocus. Plus it’s a full frame sensor so maybe dynamic range is also better. The Panasonic colour science is great. I only shoot raw these days so the Fujifilm simulations aren’t really something I’d think about
The new FF Nikon Zf apparently has great autofocus and video capabilities.
I’m also searching for a second kit since I already have a Sony full frame. I’m leaning toward the Lumix G9 II, which has amazing video capabilities and high resolution. Additionally, being a micro four-thirds camera, it is very light. It’s praised for being a superb choice for wildlife photography and capturing action, thanks to its phase-detection autofocus and 8 stops in-body image stabilization.
After thinking long and hard about the S5IIX and G9II I think I’m landing in the same position as you. I have Canon 5DIII for FF stills but for video the size of the size / features trade off is compelling with G9II. The only problem now is the price as the G9II, being the newer model is about the same price where I live. So I’ll wait until the prices drop.
@@Democratiser I got it tax-free and decided to also buy the Panasonic Leica 12-35 F2.8 lens (24-70 F 2.8 Full Frame equivalent). The G9M2 and lens together weigh almost the same as my Sigma full frame 24-70 F 2.8 alone, which is great for my neck, shoulders, and back! 😊
@@ThierryQuerette The size weight advantage of MFT is not to be underestimated. I took 5 lenses delivering 20mm-600mm FF equivalent on an overseas holiday last month. Total weight with a G9 = 1270g (or 80% of my Canon 70-200mm f2.8). Sure I didn’t have the f2.8 and bokeh all throttle focal ranges but still, MFT is seductive and makes you want to have it on your person.
@@Democratiser Indeed
Do you need 8K video or not? If not, I think the X-H2s gives you more of what you need than the X-H2 or X-T5 (less rolling shutter and better AF).
I have no personal experience with the Panasonic but I have a feeling that for video the S5ii might be the better choice, it probably has better video features, and for stills it might also be the better choice for many of the reasons you mentioned.
OK Chris, I bought an old Fuji X-T1 because of you, and I like it a lot. This is what I use beside my Lumix S5 so now it's your turn to buy my advise. The Lumix S5 is having amazing video capability, 10 bit color, 4K 60 even Pro res external! very good IBIS and the auto focus is for me more than good enough. (I shoot video always manual focus btw) As long as you do not shoot wild life or sports the S5 is really more than capable to give you extremely nice video and photography results. I bought mine new for Euro 999,- better value for money you will not get anywhere else!
Not sure what your exact needs are but the S5II would be my choice. Cinematic video capabilities and great for stills too.
thank you 👍
You should def get the x-t5. But mainly because your fuji video's are just so fun to watch
Very kind!
Choices choices, what a dilemma. I like you had fujis including GFX, x100v, XE4, Then bought Leica q absolutely loved it so sold GFX etc apart from Xt5 and bought SL2s and a few lenses as you know a very good system. I now have 2 systems, Fuji smallish system and Leica a bigger heavier full frame but lighter than GFX system. I am thinking about LUMIX s5iix if it is as small and light as the XT5, and sell the Fuji and lenses as I can use LUMIX lenses on SL2s and S5iix. Currently have the lumix 16-35, 18 f1.8, Sigma 851.8 and a couple of others and very interested in the new LUMIX 100mm 2.8 macro. So we are like two pease in a pod what to do. I will keep watching to see what you decide. Might see you down Bosham some day and compare notes or lenses! All the best Greg.
I know nothing of the LUMIX system but for me you answered your own question. If you can use your existing glass on it then you’re already halfway there and potentially cost effective choice. I did wonder if Sony has anything suitable as they seem to have good autofocus. The XH though,could be a slight compromise technically but a good choice financially. Decisions decisions……
I have an X-T3 and X-T5 (and others) if you don't need the 40MP but wanted better video features is the X-H2s not an option?
The 4K video I have always been happy with on the X-T3 and never needed anything better than that. But if I was going to buy another camera it would be the X-H2s as it is the only fuji body that ticks boxes my current gear doesn't (but right now, it is not needed)
One thing I have started doing, for specific commissions, I've been hiring gear (especially lenses) e.g. I need the 50mm - 140mm F/2.8 once a year for a few days... I could buy it and spend £1500 or just hire it for 3 days for £50
Yeah, that’s a really helpful point. Thank you!!
Lumix S5 is the no brainer Mr orange. Good to see you pop back up on my feed.
Lumix S5iiX - full frame, SL glass, and the colors and output are superb.
Wide angle fuji xf 8-16 2.8 I have one and it’s top
No brainer the Lumix S5iix for lens interchangeability from a strictly business point of view when you look at what you already have and that's coming from a Nikon and Fuji user, or if you really want to go Fujifilm the XH2S, fastest AF of all the X bodys with the best video capabilities including 6k open gate and almost no rolling shutter or banding/
I really love my S5ii. It's so good photo and video. I also have the X H2s also. Not sure which to sell
Could you rent each camera on your wish list for a few days? Make sure they can achieve what you need before committing to a purchase?
Yeah, I can certainly do that. Thanks!
X-H2 with the 16-55mm 2.8 is a perfect combination for most things....
Check out the Nikon Zf - it's amazing!!! And you can adapt just about any lens to the Z mount and get fantastic results. For near the same price, it's leagues above the X-T5. I just bought one a month ago and it's been such a pleasant surprise.
Matt Day has a recent video about the Lumix S5II. I think it will be helpful.
Hi Chris
I wanted only one system and bought the Leica Q, basically because it was complete in itself; I could then justify retaining the X-H2 in order to expand/contract the "kit", should the "work", photographing dog shows etc, require eg. a wide angle zoom or general purpose prime.
In many ways I'd have preferred retaining the X-Pro2+ XF18mm F/2, but cost & common sense (?) prevailed. And this kit was always slow in comparison even with the Leica Q, and was certainly getting old!! Never mind ...you can always find a reason to buy/change camera, if you try hard enough! John Greenwood.
PS. I'm not sure where you're based, and it may be a bit presumptive of me to suggest that a meeting with you, and like minded enthusiasts, could be a rewarding photographic experience?
Because of the stack sensor
I think the LUMIX S5II would be a great addition. I doubt you need the S5IIx. The camera has full HDMI. AF is much improved. The f1.8 primes have very little focus breathing so all are good for video. And you can use your Leica glass. Good Luck with the decision.
Hello :), maybe you could wait until the new Fuji keynote (20th Feb)? It might bring new cameras or at least some interesting trends.
The rest XH2s 👌 I have two hugs from Portugal
Hmmm... Interesting conundrum. I wonder whether it would inspire more to go into different newer ground for you at a price that is good and will do it all... I mean I love Fuji, I really do. I am less enamoured of the colour science and overall stability of Lumix systems, but aware that many swear by them. But what about a classy flagship with a surprisingly excellent wide zoom from a less familiar (for you) system? I would be very tempted to go down the route of the excellent Sony 6700 hybrid APS-C body - with some of the best video features of any hybrid system (even when competing against full frame). Probably the best autofocus system ever, which is also very quick, and is a cheaper body than the alternatives you presented in the video. Pair this with the new Sigma 10-18 f2.8 zoom. There's wider lenses that are interesting from Viltrox and TT Artisan... Add the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 zoom and it's remarkable sharpness for the price... I just think this is an interesting alternative setup that's also less expensive than the full frame Lumix or Fuji alternatives and in a system that has already proven to be the centre of many a pro kit.
Thanks so much - really interesting points that I haven’t considered as yet. Lots to think about!
I believe you have tried out a Fujifilm X-H2 in the past so you know what you would be getting with that body. I have never used a Fujifilm camera so I can't compare but I own the Lumix S5II (not the S5IIX) and I adore it but as I say I can't give you a comparison to any of the Fujifilm range. I'd love to be able to put my S5II in your hands for you to experience it but it seems you're on a tight timeframe. Hope you are happy with your decision whichever way you go.
Thank you - really helpful! I’m certainly leaning towards the LUMIX at the moment as would make sense considering what I already have.
Since you have Leica lenses, the Lumix S5II/X is the obvious choice. For photo, the Fujis have more resolution but the Panasonic will have more DR and better low light capabilities. For video, the Lumix is the clear option. Boththe Fujis overheat with 8k and 8k oversampled 4k, the Lumix will shoot 6k and 6k open gate continuously since it is actively cooled and you get the IQ benefits of FF.
Why not rent it instead?
Ha! Chris is missing his Fujis! I'll stick with my old Fujifilm XT-1, X-Pro1 and X-E1 and 2 thanks! ;-)
the fujifim is great, but you have the sl frame, lumix seems to make more sense to me, it's the choice of reason, you should take it in hand to know if it really suits you, rent it, borrow it or pick up in store
le fujifim est genial , mais vous avez la montures sl , lumix me parait avoir davantage de sens , c est le choix de la raison, il faurait le prendre en main pour savoir s'il vous convient vraiment , le louer ,l emprunter ou le prendre en main en magasin
You’re right - it certainly makes a lot more sense to go down the LUMIX route
The Lumix S5IIx would be the obvious choice with the L mount lenses and superior video, but you have familiarity with Fujifilm so there would be no learning curve there. The Nikon Zf would be another option with its off-center IBIS, pixel shift, and awesome 14-30mm lens.
I think you're suffering Fuji withdrawal symptoms - I nearly got rid of my Fuji gear a couple of months ago but pulled back from the abyss ;)
I’d buy the S5IIX or wait for the next models in the XT and XH series from Fujifilm 👍.
Or… wait for the new S series from LUMIX which is rumoured to have internal NDs… won’t be cheap though!
thanks - am leaning towards the Lumix as will work with my Leica lenses too. I imagine the colour science is similar too.
@@ChrisOrange There seems to be a lot of people who are thrilled with the S5 Ii / IIX. I’m sure that with the Leica lens you will have a happy marriage.
Isn’t it that you stoped making videos about photo gear?
This isn’t a gear review, but a question…
So you sold Leica SL? If yes why so i know
Oh no! Love my Leica and used it today for a commercial shoot 👏
While I own an X-T5, I would vote for the S5II for your situation
Ps I just find more soul in the fujifilms rather than the Panasonic
thanks - I know what you mean. It would be more of a head decision to go Panasonic for the features...
Probably sensible as can also use the lenses you have if it’s just a case of what you need for a project but do you need that connection or am I being too hippy here ? 😂
I would still go for X-T5, due to how it looks! For speed, may be Sony? All of new cameras should do nearly any job today.
The S5ii is clearly the best choice rationally simply because of the L mount compatibility, but I feel that you are drawn to the Fuji's for emotional reasons, and emotions should not be overlooked.
Thanks - check my new CZcams video and see what I went for 👏😁
The S5iix is over-specified for CZcams, in my opinion. I use an X-Pro1 for stills and an S5 for anything video related.
I never used the Lumix, the X-H2 is amazing and built like a tank and I think it'd be a great option for you but I love the X-T5 😉 Cheers!
Thanks! XT5 would be my heart, or another Leica body…but need to work out if i want two systems or one
This might not be very helpful but yesterday I did a natural light portrait shoot for a friend. I took along my XT5 and the 18mm 1.4 (love that lens) and the Sony A7IV with the 85mm 1.8 and the 55mm 1.8. Both cameras produced really nice images but for continuous auto focus the Sony is still in a different league. The size of the Panasonic put me off. The XT5 can produce nice video but if video is important look at the XH2/S. For the fun of shooting the XT5 wins hands down.
The world (of CZcamsrs that is) is going crazy over the nikon z8. Is it marketing or great cameras?
The Z8 is great value. It is a Z9 without the battery grip and $1500 cheaper.
Fuji XT 5 for the pleasure in camera experience but maybe that’s your lieca then the XH2 pretty awesome but I love Fuji just sold mine for a Ricoh for the portibility both the Fuji s great for video too . Also the Fuji X100vi soon which I would love but don’t think ideal for what you need xxx
Welcome back to Fuji Chris, since you are into the l mount system already you might as well go into the system 😅
Yeah, I think the LUMIX is making more sense to me at the moment, but will see…
If it’s for a project, why not just rent it?
The Lumix makes sense.
Hi Chris
I think this is the 3rd or 4th video in a row I've watched of yours and found that they've echoed my views.
Thanks to watching some of your earlier videos, I'm in the process of exchanging my much loved X-Pro2, XF18mm F/2, XF35mm F/1.4, and possibly also my XF23mm F/1.4 (WR), or XF16-80mm F/4, for a mint used Leica "Q". This kit should more than satisfy my requirements for a compact (fairly light?), travel/street photography outfit.
I also agree that you should only purchase equipment that you can afford & need. When the X-H2 came out, I needed to cover "dog shows", & "dog portraits", which I still do for my wife & co-breeders, so I needed a faster auto focus combination, than my then current X-T3 & XF55-200 could provide. The X-H2 & XF50-140mm F2.8, does not disappoint. The auto focus is better, probably not the best, but more than adequate. To my mind X-H2 is a better handling camera than the X-T5, especially when used with larger, heavier zoom lenses. Yes ...I don't love it like my old X-Pro2, but is better handling than my old X-T3.
Ideally I guess I'd like a complete full frame Leica SL system but costs prevent that choice; the Panasonic would enable to use Leica "L" (and adapted "M" & in my case ,"R" mount lenses), but I'm not sure about the Panasonic ecosystem when it comes down to extreme wide angle, & wide angle zoom lenses. In that regard, I doubt whether fast auto focus speed, would really apply.
I think your best bet would be to try out an X-H2, with one of the new primes, focal length of your choice (don't know about the new XF8mm f4 (?) lens). I have, & use the new 23mm F/1.4, and it is much quieter & faster to use with the X-H2, than the previous Mk1. edition, with the X-Pro2, for example.
Having said that, I could see you with an X-T5 (your favourite "X" camera (?)) & latest (wr) XF10-24mm F4 lenses & , although I don't like their form factor much, either a 35mm or 50mm, F/2 "Fujicrons" lens.
I doubt whether this will help much. I had to use similar thought processes when changing to the Leica Q camera. (I hope I've made the right decision ...I so love my X-Pro2, but it's getting very old in the tooth now & I'm not so keen on high megapixel aps-c on what looks like the latest X-Pro4 replacement!)
Thank you for such a well thought out response to my video. I find that I have to separate my heart and head decisions to keep me focussed on what I need. I can see upsides to both the Fujifilm and the L mount directions, but need to decide if I want two separate systems, or just one…
XH2s it’s very fast and don’t have rolling shutter
thanks!
No. stick to what you have, what you need, and know. There's never a reson to upgrade until a client pay for it, or you have a broken set.
S5iiX mate, no brainer
Stay with 1 lens mount, its an easy answer for you
Sony...the one and only for fast AF and wide glass and video
I bet you are going to go full frame.
I did 👍
NIKON ZF )))
LUMIX have contrast autofocus. It’s not fast but it’s a great camera
thanks - the new Lumix s5iix has phase detection too 👌
@@ChrisOrange good I didn’t know that
Stay on the L mount lumix s5iix
Nikon is coming on strong,these days
Rent something.
Sony
XT5