Fixin' Time! Project TRX-6 Gear Fix & Discussion About FOC Motor/ ESC - Holmes Hobbies
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- A little while back, a custom Traxxas TRX-6 RC Rock Crawler was added to the Holmes Hobbies collection. This off-road beast was fitted with a Bruder MAN body by the previous owner. It also has some aftermarket electronics and a really weird gear grinding noise from the transmission. John took the rig out for a run anyway and the noise was a bit much. So in this video, he takes on the TRX-6 transmission to fix the gear mesh. But in doing so, he gets into a discussion about FOC speed controlers and motors. If you want to know some tech details about FOC, the random chat in this video is one to watch!
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I purchased a Crawlmaster Sport 8t. A HW 1080 is controlling it and I'm running a 10t pinion. It is unbelievable how slow and smooth the start up is! I watch guys at comps running these hw fusion and axe systems and they start up so notchy and can't go as as slow as my set up. And it's got hilarious top end. You sir are awesome! As long as you're selling them I'll always run Holmes motors! I'm buying a puller pro very soon.
I run the same crawlmsster sport to 8t. Great motor!! I also have a fusion system and it has great start up and smooth.
You are really smart. I didn't know you designed your motors.
I love this rant and how John can make most of us feel like we know what’s really going on. AC , DC , sign waves , square sign waves. round square waves, FOC. Firmware. Fuck. My brain is constantly amazed with this mans talent. HH is by far the leader in this ring.
I love it when you go off on a rant about motors and motor engineering, especially when use your box truck body as a white board.
I recently got a used Slash with an older(?) Hobbywing SCT ESC and I had to swap wires to get the 'fast forward, slower reverse' straightened out. I really need to upgrade the firmware but it won't link to my phone.
Thanks for the video.
This looks like more a Titan 6x6 super heavy towing truck.Also nice KFM TB 600 Truck.
Electric rc professor Holms has educated us once again, you were professional in bashing Hobbywing, I enjoy your tutorials John that's a cool rig😉👍
Hi John! Recently put a Puller Pro 2200kV and SHV800 in my TRX6 and I'm lovin' it even more! Great work and thanks for the vids!
Position C is what it comes with as stock for a 11t pinion... Axe systems comes with a 12t pinion and they've put it back on the stock 11t pinion setting
For AXE 3300 is mostly used mesh which is one letter higher because of thicker shaft, so if normally D for 12 pinion for 3,17 shaft, E for this motor
Mad motor info! Thank you!
Love listening to you rant about motors could all day and y playing with that system put your own in it and just put it in the kids cars .well keep up great work and have wonderful day.
Traxxas gear mesh system is flawless, if you use a 1/8 shaft motor. When you go up to the 5mm shafts it is off.
I understood sin waves. I remember that from trig. Or was that signs at the beach telling me about dangerous waves?
Thank you for posting this. I always learn something new about motors and motor design. :)
Noticed the not so quit great startup when I installed my AXE 2300, even on a 10t pinion. But was still acceptable, finally got around to switching the receiver to pair it to my DX5C, gives me better control of the diff locking but lose the cruise control function. Have to say, with a better radio it does have a smoother startup now.
Oh My God 😲 ❤️
Is beautiful 🚛🕹️🕹️🕹️❤️❤️
Good looking Truck ! Needs a functional tilt and lift ramp bed.
HW for the win!
I got a hobbywing 3300 axe system in my Bronco 2 speed and then I switched it to the sport and I have to say it's much better in the two speed it is a little touchy but man do I like that punch
Love your videos!! What’s the good word on the crawlermaster mini esc stock? My fomo is really getting the best of me😂.
Have been toying the idea of picking up the Axe system... Have the Homes Crawlmaster sport with an 11T pinion on my Capra. Love the low speed and torque but a little lacking in top end, especially to clear mud out of the 1.9 BFG Crawlers. I think the constant speed would suit me well. Any other FOC options out there?
I always wondered why I couldn't run 3s on the 3300r2 on 3s if I did any bashing or hard hard crawling "comp" it would crash a cell had it warrantied & same thing 3x over still have it in a rock rack ray w/12t pin & complete locked diff my exercise trail rig I love trail running with it. Anyway, I was actually thinking it had to do with staggering magnets not a complete series & there for has brake in amprig, & the wind up in acceleration, kinda rail gunish... there lower kv lack torch but are predictable smooth higher kv are okay. After having used your motors to copperhead theirs just don't do it for me. The throttle curve is important just like a 1 to 1 electric vehicles there is throttle curve not touch & go. On axe to implement low low start up & all out go just isn't there. The complete control of parameters on Holmes & Castles systems hands down are the trail, comp, scale, & mini 4x4 OH Yeah Best in class for our personal Opinion...
Super good video and rig 🤙 have the axe on my Gen 8 and can’t quite find that low speed smoothness if that makes sense 🤷
I hear such great things about your products I gotta get some. definitely if it's better than hobbywing
This guy acts like he make rc motors r something 🤣🤣🤣✌Homes never heard of him🤣🤣🤣✌✌✌✌👋Grate motors bro keep up the grate work long time watcher
The radio has a lot to do with it... Traxxas radios suck for slow crawling...I used a Dumborc 6 channel on my trx6 from stock with a castle creations copperhead and puller pro and it helps modulate low speed control nicely
I had the same problem with a 1080 hw in a GEN 7 redcat. Was faster in reverse, I couldn’t get it sorted out and just sold the ESC.
Should have just swapped the motor leads.
How dare you criticize a different brand..... Just kidding I don’t care I just wanted to post because I saw through my email that I just got delivered a brand new Holmes magnum motor to install in my Capra Can’t wait to get home!!!! And yes I also enjoy the technical jargon in a lot of your videos 👍
I have that yeah racing motor plate. It’s complete junk. Didn’t last 5 minutes before I threw it out and went back to the stock one. Was worried about the puller pro R being too much for the plastic one but it wasn’t.
I hope you are the man who is willing to give a Dude advice!?! I have all the workings from a 4x4 Bushless Slash! And came up with the dream to get something that is not demolished and simple switch everything and hopefully have a running ah,probably something as cheap as cheap can get! Will this work or do I need to get my head out of the clouds! I ask well because of the Tie dye! No stereotyping! But cool T,
A running what? Crawler?
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Well I have yet to determine what,type of off rd RC Crawler or , Bouncer, because it was a quick Slash , Beat Nitro Revo Drag racing when the Slash was rite, But everything except battery is great Never even had a Lipo in it but definitely possible, just,didn't get around to upgrading battery anything broke the Slash in half Its been eating at me and the scx24 is not giving me my fix ,so Idea get something some what cheap put this Traxxas system into it and then taken care and time to really upgrade cheap Something I would give my pinky toe for something, I cant be the only person with a real Jones for rc fix,if you follow my terrible way of depicting this money on my back! Best and meanest 🐒,so must try everything to get something in the works! I hope you can follow what I am saying I have bad way of leaving half the thing Im trying to get across out,and senseless crap is what people see most times but Im slowly trying to get u what you need to understand! Im a dumbass with best entenchs, Don't let anyone fool u disability is not a way reach even small mile stones, people really make me sick not you just people with 24th scale thought telling lazy is what not most but enough Mind blowing Thanks Appreciate any bit of advice I truly do🤝
Hi from Globe Arizona ! Great video , love the truck ! I will trade you my Mint 400 and Gen 8 v2 for it , lol 😆
I have a trx6 snap-on hauler and I'm buying a GT power Pro with built-in esc lights engine sound Vibration with built-in Bluetooth and I'm trying to figure out how to place everything to be clean
I just picked up a TRX-6 Without a motor or esc Which one of your motors would be a good fit
Puller pro 540 (not stubby) 2200 or 2700, or 3500 if your want wild. Mamba x or Copperhead
Hey john, thanks for the short tutorial. I have a question for you. I have a SCX10/IIII builders kit. I am running a HW1080 with rc4wd 35 t. The drag break is terrible and it wants to pop over obstacles. How can I try to remedy that issue. Can I change the spur/pinion to help that?
Gearing down with less top speed helps. Or get a Holmes motor so it has quality magnets.
Lol, saw that coming. Ya it's a cheap motor. I expected a lil more from it. And .... not so much lol. Thanks
I have a TRX6 drivetrain in a GSpeed rig with a TGH trans. Using a mamba X and a Puller proV2 3500kv motor.
Does that motor really turn 100,000+ rpm or is the data logging reading wrong?
Can I use a 3500kv with 4s? The truck is a beast.
Where does the puller pro say 100k rpm? It says 50k rpm max. The puller pro r is 60k rpm max. That means your 3500 is 14.2v max or 3s. (Since 4s exceeds it). I have puller pro r 4100, v2 3500, and v1 2700. I only use 4s on the 2700kv standard. Tale the max rpm or rpm you want to achieve and divide by the KV. That will give you max unloaded rpm. Or you can divide the desired rpm by voltage you plan to use to find the kv you need.
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Mamba data logging is very accurate, but you have to set it up correct. If you have it as a 2 pole motor it will read 2x the rpm of the 4 pole motor since it’s switching twice as much per rpm.
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Thanks you
The data logger is giving me this number. I do not believe it would turn that so that is why I asked.
Thanks
@@darkhorsegarage9623 you need to put in the data viewing settings that it’s a 4 pole motor. Then it will give you the correct numbers, but right now you need to cut it in half.
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4 pole motor switches polarity twice as much per revolution than a 2 pole motor.
@@KTMcaptain thank you I found the edit area that allows me to input the proper KV rating. Reads 45644 rpm freewheeling on a 3s pack.
Nice truck...any plans on building or working on real electric cars?
I’m not gonna rip you over the hobbywing comments bc in my opinion I’d rather have 1 good Holmes system then 10 mediocre hobbywing systems. Holmes is the best on the market in my honest opinion the revolver has the smoothest startup and low speed control of all crawler motors. I’ve tried castle, hobbywing, and Holmes and from here on out all it’ll be is Holmes hobbies going in my rigs. I’m about to start a gspeed build it’ll be getting a 1800kv revolver crawlmaster mini and shv800 servo.
I had an axe 3300 in my trx6, but had to get something else when I went to 5.2” tires. I’m going back and forth between a 1400 revolver-Mamba X and a 1950 revolver classic-Sidewinder 4 combo depending on trail/crawl conditions, and it’s so much more controllable. The shv800 is now the only servo I’ll put in a crawler, it beats out my reefs 777 hands down
@@mblauskee7925 I can promise you that you won’t be disappointed with the revolver
Is the revolver 2200 KV powerful enough for the TRX -6
@@michaelniedojadl5481 I would think so they’re extremely powerful motors. I would think it wouldn’t have any problems at all.
@@johnboy6955 The revolvers are great. The 1400 is my preference for slow and technical, while the 1950 definitely has the wheelspeed for bashing (as much as one does with a crawler). I moved the Axe 3300 over to an SCX10ii with TRX4 axles tracked build, and I’m underwhelmed. Looks like another revolver is in my future
Your nerdy motor talk made my brain hurt but I'm glad I don't need to know all that stuff.
What are you wearing on your hand? Looks like a 1993 Casio calculator watch 🤣
It’s actually a Mk. 25 nano iron man suit apparatus.
They still make them. They are baller
Lol opinion while you're working on a pinion.
Sorry Junk that HW setup and put a Revolver in that truck. I prefer the Revolver sound to that noisy mess. Chinese Trolls don't pay Holmes Hobbies for your products. They only do a poor job of copying it. And send their Trolls to suppress YOUR Business. IMO.