SURVIVAL LILLY'S APO 1 K.N.I.F.E! Worth Your Money?
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2019
- Famous CZcamsr and bushcrafter Survival Lilly has made her own knife! She made a knife to fit her own needs and shares it with the world. The DBK boys took this opportunity to share their thoughts on the APO-1 from Survival Lilly! Take a look to find out if it's worth your money!
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Knife: busted
Video: liked
Lilly: roasted
Hotel:trivago
Barclaycard: priceless?
@@ianwoodland7379 sorry dude, i dunno what that means
this comment is gold
😂😂😂😂
Hotel: Trivago kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Wow, Lilly got roasted, ouch.
well ya , I wasted 300 bucks on 2! ugh, even writing that makes me sad,
great channel bro love your vids :)
@@bucknthebush8618 you deserved what you got lmfao. i can't stand that dumb bitch. I liked her friend she brought out on camping trips though, the black haired german chick that looked like she was from those Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movies
Courtney watching your comment lol🤣
@@bucknthebush8618, my sympathies. However, you should have known, #NahiDegi #नहीं_देगी !
When a 12 dollar mora robust beats your knife for 130 dollars in durabillity
Just a theory...but Micky IS Survival Lilly with a haircut and no glasses!
I believe that is true.
Sounds legit
But Mikkie is waaaaay better looking than Lilly could ever hope to be!!!
Little Edit mistake! The spine of this knife as F*cking great so the fire steel scraping and fire making rating should be turned around!
Fire steel scraping / spine : 9/10 and Fire making: 6/10
Dutch Bushcraft Knives
WHERE THE BLOODY HELL IS YOUR OWN KNIFE YOU STINKY BASTARDS?
I’ve been waiting forever for it to release so I can buy something better than my A2 Bravo 1.5
Colton A right?! I never bought anything passed my mora companion because why? But if DBK had their own knife...
Right on man.
Doing AMAZING guys keep up😂👍👍
Dutch Bushcraft Knives you forgot the Benchmade Bushcrafter! It’s spine is awesome!!
3 years of watching your videos..
and am still waiting for a badass DBK knife
that's why we're waiting. i guess :D
this video shows what happens if you just make a knife because you wanted to have your own knife
Get a Dulo DBK knife for now bro ! Many great steel / handle options and sizes .
Totally agree I’m sure it’s work u don’t need to do but partner with falkniven ,bark river,battlehorse knives or LT Wright which are my favorite fixed blade knife makers At the moment I really like LT Wright wish is were I bought 2 out of my last 3 fixed blades along with the 3v kephart from bark river.
They say in this video that they tried and couldn't figure to bring down the price to reasonable. Its a numbers game that's hard to invest in
@@barrybueler3356 you may be on to something. Bark River will fit in DBK if they buy a whole run of gunny scandivex. Thats 500 times unit price, but they surely would all sell!! It's alot of money to pay for a weeks production of a factory!
$130 for AUS8? Nah.
Interesting !
Wow I'm subscribed to your channel suppriesd to see you here to Amazing channel by the way
@@toma806 !!-!
Yow zaek nice to see a comment from you
$130? Just get a Mora for $15.
You cant use a mora as a survival knife, which is what this is ment to be , try batoning with a mora
@@JGstunts22 czcams.com/video/fKlcBpKbAvM/video.html
Think again.
As someone who's done that, I can tell you that a Mora is great for batonning.
@@Abhi-ff2cr sure you can baton a small stick but try and fall a small tree with a mora lol
@@JGstunts22 If you are trying to fall a small tree with a knife, you have bigger problems 😂😂.
Ever heard of an axe.
I always smile when a new DBK vid comes up. You guys should have your own tv show. And always appreciate new knife info.
AUS-8 is an OK budget steel, but I would pick 1095 over AUS-8 for the same price.
In other words, a Mora companion
@Ministry of Mystics If you compare them to super steels that are mostly 3x as expensive then I can somewhat understand what you are saying.
@Ministry of Mystics I have experience with all these except for Niolox. It all depends on the situation, knife design, and what you want to use it for.
A Becker BK-9 in n690co would be a bit of a hassle because it chips way more easily than 1095 would for purposes that the BK-9 is made for. A Kizer Vanguard folding knife in 1095 would also be a bit of a hassle because it will rust.
14c28n is mostly for smaller sized knives. I like the Garberg, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.
I'm convinced that Niolox is good, but also a lot more expensive than 1095 if you would buy a knife made for the same purpose. It also takes longer to sharpen.
CoS is my favorite steel in terms of performance. It can be put on any knife because it is so versatile. But then again, way more expensive than 1095 if not as expensive as super steels.
The reason why 1095 and AUS-8 are still very popular is because the huge variety of price ranges and knife designs to choose from. And in terms of performance, 1095 because of its toughness. AUS-8 because it is stainless. Also, 1095 is easy to modify without any special sharpening tools and holds a better edge than AUS-8 while being in the same price range no matter the knife design. Hence why I'd take 1095 over AUS-8.
1095 rust to easy and a knife that 3/16 of an inch thick in AUS8 will take tons of punishment and the steel is easy to sharpen
@@bryand2978 i cold blue them and just keep oil on them..1095 is 10x better then aus 8 with a good heat treat
Just buy the cold steel srk she copied this design of of or one of the other million better designs out there
Perhaps its not the blade handle profile shape she designed but the gamut of choices and planning to be able to offer a knife that she thinks offers combination of features that are desirable for survival knife.
@joe Recto yeah I believe that was the blade she used primarily before this one
UNIVERSES WILL COLLIDE!!! KNIVES WILL BE TESTED!!! MY LIBIDO WILL BE EXCITED!!!
so she critics all knives basicly but then makes a meh product full of simple flaws... mmmkay
and then whines when people talk shit (honest shit) about it....
No. No. She explains that her disapointments were great with chipping and tips ripped off and chose AUS-8 due to her personal experience with it.
@@ssunfish the problem is, her personal experience is based off of very few knives...that she likes or dislikes...and her charging that amount for her knife....is just ripping off customers...their is no way she couldn't know what her knife is worth....she's selling it on her popularity and the trust of her fans...which at best is deceiving...
@@ssunfish what bothers me most is none of the reviewers will step up and say what they really think as they don't want to offend her or her fans as she's one of the biggest youtubers in this genre...
@@randyyeager oh. I see. So she has too much influence and the unfairness bothers you? Well I don't judge you, but you're basing her price on knives from companies that litetally bank on moving hella prodigious numbers of product like litetally thousands of times as much as Survival Lilly does and they shave pennies off their costs bec it translates to thousands in savings. So please dont be mad that she doesnt have the armies of people to help her shave costs and promote "product", ok.
Finally an honest review after several of convenience. First version had better micarta handle, a nonsense to downgrade to slippery g10, and had straight V-edge which is worse than the convex you had on this second version. I suspected the tip bend as I noticed Lilly was so cautious when she showed her tip test.
It depends. G10 is tougher.
Gadget yoyo Oh really? The toughness is about equivalent between g10 and micarta, especially realistically speaking. I have a busse combat knife that I have struck on the micarta handle to baton, there’s absolutely no wear to it. G10 isn’t hard to scuff or mar, though it doesn’t casually do so. In this regard the texture/feel is much more relevant.
@DTL He sure did.. but then again, what would anyone expect after being gifted the knife to do a "review"
overpriced knife... noot worth it
I dont think g10 is even cheaper. Black micarta i can buy in bulk extremely cheaply. It does oook really nice, id say upgrqde the materials and add 30 to the price. Cold steel also make their stuff in taiwan
Kinda sounds to me like the main problems with this knife are material problems - soft steel that sharpens easily but won't hold an edge, and slippery scale materials without a decent knurl pattern to improve grip. I remember Lilly mentioning that her prototypes had Micarta scales, but that was too expensive so she had to switch to another material.
So, this knife seems like a fair knife for the cost, but it would probably be awesome if three things were changed:
1) Switch to a harder steel
--------------------------------->(queue all the stupid "hard" jokes by Mikkie)(queue all of the stupid "slippery in the hand" jokes by Mikkie)(queue all of the "rubbing" by Mikkie)
I guess I don't see why this video is so controversial. Destruction tests are hard on a knife. You started off showing your preferred knife which also has a broken tip. You highlighted pros and cons, which are obvious. There's only one reason this is considered drama, and that's because it's a CZcamsrs knife. It looked pretty fair to me. I don't expect much from destruction tests and I hate tip tests... The fingernails on a chalkboard of the knife world.
The only reason I did David's knife is I thought a lot of what was being said was inaccurate. But I generally don't like doing other CZcamsrs knives because of the inevitable drama. You literally cannot win in this. If you said it was great, you'll catch shit. If you point out some flaws, you'll catch shit. Either way, you catch shit. I was super fair to the point of being a lawyer for both sides in my MSK-1 video, and I caught shit just for doing an MSK-1 video 🤣
That being said, I still have to find you a JX5. I bet you could squeeze Jason for a JX6 though. I don't care if you do an honest review on my stuff. You need to hit up LT for a Jessmuk or Jason for a JX6. JX5s won't be back for several months.
Hey Chris,
Thanks a lot for the kind comment! We appreciate it! Being honest is our key rule so we'll always try to be unbiased (as far as unbiased goes as people just have a personal preference for things). We don't mind getting some shit though. I have Mikkie in my life it doesn't get much shittier than thag anyway.
We'd still love to do a video on the jx5 or 6!.
We have been thinking about doing the msk1 for a while but it's definitely not my style of knife. I think it has a bit of a Rambo vibe to it.
DBK objectively saw the flaws. It's a drama because Lilly had such high demands, no knife was good enough for her, it must have been the ultimate knife to survive the apocalypse. There is a huge disappointment : very poor edge retention, fragile tip, sheath dulling the blade, slippy handle. Her fierce fans defend her despite these obvious facts. Her reaction was not correct, she deleted her comment and all the answers. She causes controversy (Fallkniven bashing) but can't stand when it is against her. A huge ammount of drama ingrédients
@@jls2975 yes sir I totally agree
Thanks for the comment!
One thing for sure is APO 1 is substantial more the better blade then that god awful abomination called Jess-X. Good god what an insult to humanity to place that on this earth. I was offered one of the Jess-X for free and i was like nah..give me covid instead. At least Schrade tried to give it an upgrade with the grind. Its about as useful as a hat full of assholes and has design lines fashioned after the designer own shitty hair style. I would like to write more about how offensive that Jess-X piece of crap is but alas i have to polish my APO-1.
@@christanner3770 juicy 🤣
How could anyone claiming that the S1's performance was inadequate then go on to deliberately make a knife out of AUS-8? Fuck sake.
Mr Smith. If you dont comprehend why lily chose Aus 8 then you need to learn how to do your research before commenting.
@@howardvarley8795 If you knew anything you'd be aware that AUS-8 is a garbage steel. Even 12C27 would be far superior
@@mrsmith9079 Ray Mears said there's nothing worse than a knife bore! Same goes for a Steel bore.
@@mrsmith9079 If you want to learn about Aus 8 watch ' The Ideal Survival Knife' put up by JoergSprave. You spend too much time listening to muppets on CZcams. Watch it to the end!!!
@@howardvarley8795
>"You spend too much time listening to muppets on CZcams."
>"Watch the 'Ideal Survival Knife' by JoergSprave"
Fuck me, you can't make this shit up xD
I love that you guys are so honest, can't be easy to say all of that about her knife, but at least we know we can trust you! Keep up the honesty please 🤞
Enjoyed the honest video guys. Well done being fair concerning the knife and yet respectful to Lilly at the same time.
EEEW ...How creepy are you ❗️🤮
I want to see a duel between Mickey and Lilly. But to equalize chances, Lilly should use only her left hand.
Thats not equal. She'll easily beat me
haha!
Dutch Bushcraft Knives fine you get a katana and she gets a nerf sword
Mickey will lose. For he has testicles......mens' true Achilles heel.
I actually want to see this... Obviously mickey would win big time but it would be fun to see.
Thanks for your honest evaluation on Survival Lillys knife. She is obviously week at handling tools so having you guys cover a wide range of knives is great. PS...my favourite knife for sometime now is an F1 in VG10 and I love it ! Got a horizontal kydex sheath for it and I give my own a 10/10 lol
I've done a little research. And the match bowl knifes are made with the same steel.those cost 25$
That intro is EPIC hahaha
Now I want to see a video of you guys actually trying to make a knife. Each of you buys a knife blank, handle scales, pins, etc and try to actually make a knife. It'd be like the first "cooking with DBK" video all over again
They haven't done this? Saw clips from Marrten putting the ivory paper micarta and red liners on his Enzo in Elmax
MrBendyarms they cant make a knife ... they are just loosers with a big mouth... who claimed them as knife experts? do they actually have finished school yet? i think they still live at home
@@akashanee3048 You don't need to finish school to know knives idiot.
lowkey, like 70% of knife making is design, and of the remaining 30 % a lot of it is the geometry, so buying a k nife blank, scales and pins is really not making a knife, its just assembling one. Nothing wrong with it, and it would be an amusing video, but thats not really making a knife
@@emeraldplatypus9870 okay.... fully aware given that i do make knives as a hobby (stock cutaway, not forging). I'm wasn't exactly expecting them to make a full blown knife from bar stock given the time and tools that takes. Besides, a lot of people in the knife community agree that making the handle is the most fun and satisfying part because that when it all truly comes together. Besides, raw entertainment value is a huge priority for DBK
I got one...the second run with g10. It's just ok. To me, the closest analogs are the SRK and the Tops B.O.B. Fieldcraft. Both of those are better knives across the board. The sheath problem on the APO1 is really...problematic. I would rather they have included a decent nylon web sheath with multiple attachment options than a badly-designed and poorly fitted gfn one. Again, it's just ok, but for the money, there are much better options.
You guys are hilarious , subscribed , liked.
I commented about this knife on another channel and got shit for saying it was way overpriced, had a crappy sheath and a poor choice of steel. I think that channel may have been overpopulated by "Lilly" fans, but I think your testing speaks for itself .
Hahahahaha yea probably! Everybody's welcome over here! Didn't get too much slack about the review yet to be honest!
I haven't watched a knife video in a long time but this was pure CZcams gold.
0:33 This is why I love you DBK (also because of your knives). Don't ever change.
Thomas H Omg, another sharks fan.
Oh boy, this is the video where we all waited for :D
Also I really like the DBK sharpening stone
Indeed.
She's to salty , made a normal comment and she went off , used to love her show but she's a bit sensitive for me. Way to freaked out about men being men.
@Adam I got no idea , I'm guessing probably but regardless she is way to edgy for me. It was honestly a huge letdown by how she responded to a normal saying which she took as an attack on her womanhood . Me and my wife were like ...What the heck? We both liked watching her stuff but I've not gone back since.
I have zero "tolerance" left for the... so called tolerant left . They have become the most over sensitive bunch of nutters , I can't listen to their baloney anymore got no time for it. That way of thinking always on the attack looking for the racist, bigot homophobe in every comment or answer is burning I and others like me out.
@@Airik1111bibles Don't project this image of the "left" on everything.. you're getting confirmation bias this way. I'm about as left as you can get and I wholly agree with you.
@@martijnheil8825 , wrong side, buddy.
@@Airik1111biblesthats funny, because shes a raving right libertarian witht the politics of a 14 year old surburban kid who lives on the internet
Thank you for the unbiased, objective knife review.
Don’t stop making videos you two are great love the videos
I paid 129€ for my Lionsteel M5 with Sleipner steel back in the day... Just sayin'.
Thanks a lot for the video, guys!
👍
i have 1 also...great knife..
No Reviewer who Tested This Knife worked it hard like you did so this is how i figured it would perform
Probably because she sent it to them for free... I mean I've only seen Survival on Purpose test it, but he wasn't doing anything serious with it.
@@nervsouly also they didnt want it to break in theyre video lol...
Should have given it to Mayor Fuglycool for that.^^
You dudes make the best and most entertaining videos. I was laughing out loud a lot during this video and a lot of your videos. Thank you!
Always honest, love you guys.
They in bikinis nek episode
"Canada" love the reference. Good men laughing at good real life jokes. Can't make it up. DBK, always funny and entertaining. Thanks for never going to the ridiculous standards of PC!!
Seems like you guys were pretty fair and could've went off the deep end and didn't. I wonder how many issues with this knife are due to the blade steel. I won't even use aus 8 for a box cutting edc knife, I can't imagine how well it would hold up in outdoor use
Nice to finally see an honest review on this nice.
ESEE comes with a lifetime guarantee.. that's how confident they ate in their products.. Lily's comes with..er... nothing.
She is right about the Fallknivens with the laminated VG10 steel. It chips out easy and that is with any of the VG10 laminated blades. I've had the F1, S1, A1 and all of them did it. There also a bit difficult to sharpen, especially the A1. ( Yes i know it's convex and you pull the edge for sharpening ). CPM3V fan myself, the best of all worlds. Just dry it off when your done with it, if in the rain/snow etc. Obviously the heat treatment is wrong with her knife. AUS-8 from cold steel, like the SRK would chop her knife in two.
A very honest review, respect!
Yes, this thing is expensive for what it is. You can get far better blades for 120-150 euros. It should have been around 70-80e
140 euros for this? i'd have 14 mora knifes...
TheCooperman666 you can buy a Mora garberg and a bushcraft black for the same price and have money left
Bought the APO 1 a few weeks ago. Feel it is a good knife for camp and hunting. I was disappointed when I got my Visa invoice. With the exchange, taxes and the shipping charge, it totaled over $250.00 Canadian.
Terry
Terry McCarthy Sucker 😂 😂 😂 try Elk Ridge 555 😂 soooooo many options....
yeah, i remember when lilly tore up the f1 fallkniven as a prelude to releasing her knife. that's all i needed to know.
im pretty sure that was not her intention...the videos where 2 years apart
@@nils-ph3zs you are quite right, i'm sure. my bad. that said, i'm sure i am biased as i have the f1 and s1, as well as the u2folder.
@@gregorywalker4997 I have the f1 and A1, excellent knifes for sure!
Thank you for doing a review on her knife.nice info =). Love you guys!!!
I'd love to see a video of you guys making your own custom knife
Guys your choice of background music is always fooking brilliant 👍🙂
Esp on this vid. I watch it just to hear the music n see knives
'Survival Lilly' is not someone whose opinion I would take seriously.
It doesn't matter how many followers she got - if you have watched her for a certain time, you will inevitably notice that she doesn't really know what she's talking about.
Het is altijd leuk om naar jullie tekijken
Could u guys review the sog seal pup elite? I used one durring my last deployment and it held up pretty well to all the shenanigans i put it through.👍
Soooooo basically just stick with a BK7 or Esee 5?
Yes. No need to reinvent the wheel. The knife design on principal is workable, better than "no knife", but the thing is she's charging premium for a mediocre knife and steel.
Are you freakin kidding me??? Is Mikkie B the singer in the songs of this video? The writer of these songs??? Please tell me and link to buy!!!!
There’s nothing wrong with an honest respectful critique!! That is one of the ways we get batter at what we do!!
I hope Lilly takes the critique, makes some awesome changes and upgrades the knife!!
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Love your videos. You guys are the reason i just bought my first bark river. Your continued endorsements of bark river pushed me over the edge. If the one i have have is a good sample of their work, they certainly make a fantastic product.
Nice one man! Yea it really is one of our favourite brands out there and hope you'll agree! Have fun with it and cheers!!
Grateful to DBK I discovered Malanika, now i'm in the waiting list. Hope DBK knife will be as good as these marvelous knives
Ohhhh yea!! And thats a bloody high bar!
This channel needs more subs!
As an Esee Fanboy I especially liked the part where you're saying the Esee did better - really made my day, haha!
I will stay with my old school bushcraft knife made from 01 tool steel. Love it! And if I ever had to mistreat the blade it's easy to re-sharpen in the field.
01? I think not
@@jimsteen911 I think yes.
just checked... the knife also is available made from k110 tool steel or sk85 carbon steel... would those fare any better?
Thanx Guys! Me and my buddies laught yesterday our asses off about Survial Lilly!
We hope you go on with your Show and wish you all the best!
The face she made , when she said APO 1! Priceless and EPIC!
I love her nasty voice and scary face when you pause vid hahaha
9 minutes 21 seconds. Subtle.
Great vid gents!
9:21
I normally don't do affiliate links, unless I really like the youtuber. You guys are one of them. I'm definitely going to be buying all my knives except one. I wish DLT had the Winkler 7.75" w/ Sculpted Maple. Also great job shooting, lighting, color correction and b roll. I love the shots, whoever does the camera work and editing... A+
Glad you guys tell it how it is
This video made me respect Bark River knives even more. Better steels, full convex, leather sheaths, and USA made for just a bit more money.
Bark River is miles ahead, no contest :)
Cody, have a look at Dulo knives, you might like them !
absolutely, bark river all the way, just got my new squad leader, another world compared to this apo thing
there are cheap knives way better then lillys knife...aus8 is crap even for budget steel
Bark rivers are crap. The amount if uneven grinds and lack of availability, and for the prices they ask? Overrated, overhyped tools
@@fireemblemistrash75 But, wait, US made !
I own an APO 1S and, like Lilly, it has replaced my old Cold Steel SRK as my preferred field knife because of design features which include lack of a choiI and hammer at the end of the handle. Lilly's list of features just happened to fit my specifications also. In addition, I find it easy to sharpen. It is the very best for fire making. And the ergonomic handle provides an excellent grip, wet or dry.
How do you like it compared to the srk? I like the Aus 8 steel better than the crappy heat treated sk5. Heard and seen way too often them breaking
@@fireemblemistrash75 Yeah, but they break at the Tang-Blade switch. Also Cold Steels HT on the Srk5 is trash?
At least they make a PERFECT HT for their S35VN, thats what matters because its my good to go steel.
I’ve been waiting for this!
What type of wood do you prefer for making feather sticks?
Love the offspring throwback
I have to say I got a Cold Steel SRK (Aus-8a version) for AUD$66, the APO-1 costs as of 08/02/19 AUD$180.02, same steel, similar sheath, similar overall knife, less dollars. The SK-5 version of the SRK cost me AUD$70, for the $180 I can get a san mai SRK (VG-10 laminate).....I know where my money is going.
Lilly is the person who criticized that the tip of Fallkniven A-1 is fragile but how many of us stub hard materials then squeeze our knife's handle? At this point, her aim is missing the point and it is completely contradicted since the tip of her knife is also easy to break. It is sure that her knife is the imitation of "SRK" of Cold Steel and Fallkniven A-1 but I will buy "SRK" or Fallkniven A-1 since her knife has many defects and less merits.
I love your humor, guys. Awesome. I know this is an old video, but I had to comment.
It's a cold steel srk
Yes, there are very striking similarities...
SRK is way better.
I think the SRK is of VG1 steel.
@@Martin_bei_Frankfurt They make the SRK in a few different steels.
TKDLION my SRK is made in USA of carbon v steel.
A morakniv shouldn't even be compared with it. Mora is top notch, that apo is an abomanation. Total different league. Now compare lilly's w fällkniven smh that's another realm for fucks sake
i am normally not a real fan of your all your videos, but this video is really funny and cut so good ! !!
Hey Van Bommel heads,i have a big bag of Mora knives,should I buy the Falkniven F1 basic model.I have very big hands triple X gloves and the handle on the Falkniven F1 looks small.Any advice would be much appreciated.Stay safe.
The only knife worth paying for is the mora basic 511.
Yup, one of my favorite knives, great camp knife, fun to mod and an awesome spoon whittler
Why spend over 100 bucks on a fancy bushcraft knife when a cheap mora can do the same
I love Mora knives. Best bang for your buck.
I got to say though, I am uncomfortable with their roast of Lilies knife. A limited production run knife, designed by a camp craft youtuber, which is pretty decent .... for 100 quid, is pretty good. I think Moras are great knives at the 15-30 pound price point, but the more you spend the less you get. I spent £100 on a high end Mora and it was a bit rubbish tbh. The Apo 1 was much better at that price point. I own about 8-9 moras I think .... but if I was to advise someone wanting to spend £100 I would recommend the Apo1 over the Garburg.
Omg. So I finally treated myself to the Mora Garberg Carbon. It came in the mail. The wife's first words were. "Omg another knife." 🤗
How are you liking it?
Good video again guys! From what i saw, i agree that the steel could make the whole knife much better. 👍😁
You guys do have a great sense of humor
It's a blessing it's a curse
It’s so overpriced considering it’s AUS8
That’s like a steel kershaw would use for a 20$ knife while hers is around 120€
135€ discounted on her website and 162€ undiscounted. That’s impressive! (not in a good way...)
@@herrkeks8509 lol
DBK keeping it real 👍👍👍
In your opinion what would you recommend as your three choices for best fixed blade knives? Thanks
Maarten: trc apocalypse, bark river Aurora and fallkniven a1 pro/X in my personal opinion.
One of the best all-round knives ever made though might be the bark river bravo 1
There's an advantage to being able to sharpen a knife in the woods with a creek stone. I like the steel she uses. She tried all kinds and found it to be the best for a survival knife. Her refinements of late have really made an excellent outdoor tool.
Yet there are tougher knives with harder blades and still eady to sharpen. Also, if you have some common sense, if you know your knife has a crappy edge retention you should pack a small sharpening stone/strop and not wait until you have to use a creek stone. That scenario isn't realistic unless you're both poorly prepared or don't know your gear. Is her knife okay? Yes, and the shape, relatively high toughness and the sheath(leaving aside the slight rubbing problem) are really nice, but it's far from being the quality of knife that deserves such an absurd price tag considering very good knives like the SRK in cpm 3v are around that price yet offer so much more
@@Charles-A I've used creek stones for years, many years, and if skilled in their use they work extremely well.
The very last thing i wanna do when i am spending 24/7 to find food and water is worry about a knife that beeds sharpening because i chopped 2 branches.
Finding a good stone is not common at all in most areas of the world and its also a myth that it works well in the first place.
looking forward to a new review if Lilly changes the sheath and steel :)
3 years later and nothing changed....lol
Thank you sooo much for getting finally a review on her knife.....i am actually happy to see that it isn't in the "good knife" section (Fällkniven S1 revenge) - [joking]......(not). Have a nice day my Dutch Bushcraft Lilly ('s) :D
What was it that dulled the edge when removing or inserting the knife into the sheath? Is it sliding on a rivet?
There's a bit of plastic in there that needs to be shaved down.
good honest, funny review. the brick test is funny but I don't think it's relevant for real-world use for a blade edge... but it does give a hard-use comparison between blades. keep up the good work guys!
The brick thing makes me laugh. If you go to Lillys channel where she reviews the Fallkniven all the comments were going on and on about "soldiers" using knives as tool not knives and all that nonsense.
If I was her I would rather preferred to do a collaboration piece with some custom blade maker, small batch, High quality knives. This apo-shit sounds like another low quality beargrylls branded chinese knife
Valtaine D'Octoi It reminds me Rambo tactical look shit knives found under 20$ on Amzn
I'd really want to see a Schf9 1095 review! Great gudget survival knife!
You guys are so funny I've watching your videos and now listening to your pod cast ...... keep up the good and honest comments 👍
I love both channels... guys show her how its done.....??
When i saw Lilly´s Introduction Video of The APO1 i Thought myself: "Why AUS8 Steel, there are much better Steel options?"
probably because she loved her SRK in Aus-8. It's tough but too outdated in my opinion. I was a good stainless back in the 90's
Hey, where is lillys comment? She deleted it? Hahaaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa that says it all.
Hi Guys, I wanted to know if you recommend better steel 14C28N than Aus8? thank you and keep on doing that fantastic videos
Yes 14c28n is definitely the better choice
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APO-1 review at last! 😎😎😎
Aus8 is not a bad steel when the ht is done well. It's not the best on edge retention but it's tough. Still it's a budget steel and the APO 1 doesn't have a budget price. There's a video out there where they do a destruction test on the SRK in Aus8 and it hold up really well. (If anyone has the SRK in Aus8 and is willing to trade or sell?).
The tip test is kinda a self fulfilling prophecy in many cases. Having a swedge is usually not good for a tip destruction test. Also when the blade is tapered like the F1. It did amaze me that the APO 1 did bend on the first try since it has no swedge and it's not tapered. For that reason I think the ht on these knives is really off.
About Lilly. Over the years I have called her bluff many times because she was just giving wrong information that could potentially become dangerous. But all women that are into bushcraft and survival have many subscribers. Most men just like women that are into bushcraft and survival.
Yes agreed! She has a large following because she's a girl in a men's world.
As for the aus8 it should have held up much better indeed. I think poor Taiwanese quality control and knowledge of proper heat treatment is the killer here. I've never been fond of aus8 but for a cheap knife I'd have no problems with it.
As soft as the tip was the edge still chipped. I get the feeling the blade is partially heat treated. I've spoken to Chinese manufacturers before who did a different HRC on the spine than on the edge. Anyway, this aus8 didn't perform nearly as well as aus8 for cold steel does. Lilly should have noticed as her favorite knife was the srk in aus8
@@DutchBushcraftKnives I think you are right about the partial heat treat or at least different heat treat. That would explain the bending and chipping in one blade. There are more manufacturers that use this technique of different heat treatment even dating back to the early samoerai swords. But the spine did throw good sparks so it was hard enough for that.
It's possible that Lilly did notice but did not have the will or the power to correct the situation. Lilly being one person and not a large company with lawyers and stuff.
At least you guys gave the knife an honest test and review. Stuff I wouldn't do with a knife but stuff that Lilly does or at least did with the S1. But again. Lilly is a woman and also the guys doing the review seem to give her some slack for that instead of just reviewing the knife regardless.
i hate aus8 shit sucks
@@f.a.j.4685 To be honest. Over the years Lilly did get experience because of her travels. She did spend time in the bush on different continents. I don't see any huge mistakes or false information any more but just her opinion. Besides the jimping the desing of her knife is ok. But AUS8 should not bend that easily. Maybe it was just the first badge?
And always interested in the bush but not in a bush. ;)
Do a collab with Alec Steele!
Félix Pelletier the should have while he was in europe, now that he is in america not so possible.
100% damascus doesn't make for a very durable/stable edge.. He would need to put in a core cutting steel..
who wants to see a 72 part series on making a bushcraft knife?
@@mdsign001 If Alec and Will are doing it, I would totally watch it.
This is literally a cold steel SRK before they used VG1 and eventually 3V in the blade. I'd love to see a comparison because you cn pick them up for under $100