Art in Focus | The Real Ophelia | Tate
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- Elizabeth Siddal is known as the model posing in Millais's painting of Ophelia. But there is much more to learn about this story. Here we explore her life as an artist and poet, her influence on the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood and the challenges she faced living within Victorian society.
You can also see all of the surviving paintings, major drawings and watercolours by Elizabeth Siddal for the first time in The Rossettis exhibition at Tate Britain, 6 April - 24 September 2023. www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate...
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I think it's important to note the pain that Rossetti caused her as a lover through countless infidelities, as well as the fact that after she died he buried poems with her, and then dug up her grave a few years later to get them back out. He treated her very badly, and this treatment was one of, if not the main, cause of her laudanum overdose.
Yeah, not a complete story at all :/
And thankfully as punishment he had a horrible death. "He sank into a morbid state" good.
You can also say Siddal got revenge because the poems that he buried with her got backlash after publishing which the criticism made his health decline
Omg- who desecrates a grave???
Men 😡
@@Creative_2023 I’m so sorry to hear that. I would talk to the grounds keeper-
I’m a senior in HS and every year the seniors have to choose a famous painting to recreate on a ceiling tile, and I chose Ophelia. The amount of detail on this painting is remarkable, and I’ve spent hours staring at it and I still find new hidden details! This is definitely my favorite painting so I’m glad I found this video talking about it’s history, so thank you!
Wow would love to see a pic of the tile!
@@gpg000 I actually just finished it today! I’m happy with it and if there was a way to share it I definitely would!
哈咯，我是中央美术学院的学生，交个朋友！☺️
交个朋友吧
Have you seen the original at the Tate Abby? It is large (76.2 cm × 111.8 cm or 30.0 in × 44.0 in) and impressive. In person you can clearly imagine just how much effort it took to create. And you might also enjoy the work of Pieter Bruegel the Elder, a much earlier painter whose paintings have many hidden and even humorous details.
What a shame this isn't an exhibition. What a fascinating topic.
OPHELIA
Among bed of lilies,
She's so beautiful and pale.
But her heart was broken,
Let the painting tell the tale.
A soul that is so rested,
Her lilies by her side,
The banks around so sodden,
With gifts of nature's pride.
Keep breathing dear Ophelia,
With auburn hair that flows
Amidst the tepid water,
Heartbeat, hand and rose. 🌹
How could one so beautiful,
And with heart so true,
Be lost among the lilies?
Let the picture paint the hue.
© SIRIUS
The poem is very old. It was inspired by the painting.
Who's it by?
@@martinbright5077 The poem by me. The painting, J. E. Millais I believe.
@@Sirius263 Beautiful poem! Thanks for sharing it!
@ Very kind of you, Silvia. Thank you.
It's lovely, @Sirius! A beautiful poem for a beautiful lady.
I saw this painting in Red Velvet “Feel My Rhythm”
Elizabeth is one of my heroines. She wrote and painted exquisitely, and she had so much depth and feeling and determination. So much went wrong for her, so much hurt and pain, but she will ALWAYS be a beacon of light for women artists…and our Ophelia❤️
Just want to point out, Ophelia was not sent away by Hamlet because of impurity...
Ophelia's father, Polonius, commanded her to give back all Hamlet's love letters and to basically accuse him of playing her. Even Ophelia's brother, Laertes, told her not to trust him.
Hamlet truly loved her though, so when she returns his letters and is cold to him, he is devastated.
He sarcastically agrees that HE must be the villain and that she should "get thee to a nunnery" where she would be safe from such men.
Ophelia, tormented by her choice, watches as Hamlet starts to behave erradically (because of the murder of his father by his uncle) and she believes he has gone mad because she broke his heart. Then in a cruel twist of fate, Hamlet accidentally kills her father. Ophelia could no longer cope and descends into madness - she becomes almost childlike. In her whimsy of collecting flowers, she falls into the river and drowns.
Hamlet is one of my favorite Shakespearean plays and I just wanted to defend my main man Ham
Thankfully the fact s can still be told Sorry ladies,lyfe is hard.
Thank you
This painting used to be on the wall in my primary school. Every single child thought it was creepy and a 'haunted' painting.
maybe it is. in such a way that you would be held still at the sight of a pale figure such as her. maybe its the way her eyes hold you in a cold way like a room held with past tragedies.
Not the most appropriate adornment for the wall of an elementary school.
"Should we hang the alphabet animal poster?"
"Nah, let's go with the suicide."
@@oliviamartini9700 exactly!
@@oliviamartini9700 that too
I always thought Ophelia needed comforting and protecting
Red Velvet did a reference in "Feel My Rhythm" MV
I have always been disgusted by how most traditional art romanticizes and beautifies Ophelia's death. Her death was cruel and unjust (at least this is what I felt after reading the play) and I thought these paintings should paint the real, ugly death of women drowning in polluted rivers, instead of romanticizing being oppressed and women driven to suicide.
It's common in the olden days. Many artists drew that away to get fame and an audience. If they drew more graphical (not in a negative way, more like what you described it should be like), the audience wouldn't notice it or be disgusted by it.
The Pre Raphaelites were allegorical artists and I don't think this tells a romantic story but it captures a moment in time expressing how painful life can be and how some choose to end their life. Suicide is either a constant companion to many and a judge and jury to others. This painting reminds us that suicide is a choice we can make if we want to.
I think you should see from the perspective of the painters that day, not using today's standard.
At the time that Milais' Ophelia painting was first displayed, the Victorian public was actually outraged by it as they considered it ugly and a desecration of Shakespeare's great work. By modern standards, it looks like a very beautiful and romantic painting, but by the standards of the day the model was considered to be ugly, and the river she is lying in is surrounded by weedy and straggly plants. Remember that the Pre-Raphaelites were considered extremely radical at the time, a more traditional victorian painter would have portrayed Ophelia as classically beautiful by victorian standards and surrounded by lush beautiful vegetation and flowers. Instead, Milais portrayed her as a pale, thin, sickly looking woman lying in what looks like a country ditch. I don't think this painting was intended to romanticise her death at all
@@hi-ve1cw Well said.
This is one of the most beautiful paintings in the history in my opinion but I never really knew the backstory. Thank you for the video!
feel my rhythm!
Yes SS
come with mee~
Thanks for all the details and description of this beautiful painting, and life of the famous red haired model of the Raphaelite’s artists. Elizabeth Siddal was Rossetti’s muse.
ok red velvet feel my rhythm
A moving tribute to a beautiful woman.
Understanding more about the creation and history around this painting makes me appreciate it more. Great video!
What a beautifully captured moment in art history. Thank you.
So that’s why joy(from RV) was laying like that
A brilliant portrayal of such an iconic painting - thank you 😊
I watched the New Romantics when I was in my 20s, that show - it was everything at the time. Now I see it as adolescent, but it felt so big and complete at the time.
I didn't think about this painting much until I saw it in person. I've been in love with it ever since.
Loving all of this, great work Tate
My favorite paiting by far!!! Thank you for sharing this tale =)
Now I know what inspired the famous Finnish band Negative to create the song Frozen To Loose It All for the music video. The video is just like this painting. I love Tate! ❤️💟💙
Wonderful!
after a 13 year gap I took a photo with the painting today at Tate Britain. I love this painting
I love this - it's a very different output from Tate. Beautiful snippet into history! More, please! :D
The Art Curious Podcast with Jennifer Dasal just did an episode on Elizabeth Siddal if you’re interested in learning more about her!
Very informative and enjoyable to watch!
your voice is so beautiful and calming
Lovely art and video, thankyou. Sadly tragic though for Elizabeth Siddal. A haunting example of life imitating art. But for her generosity to help a great artist, she lives on in his masterpiece.
Did I just get read a paragraph from a romance, the descriptions were beautiful, the language genuinely really pulled me in. Beautiful work on this video.
Thanks for the video Ophelia - great work!
I’ve seen this master work of art, unbelievably amazing. I spent an easy hour gazing at every detail
it's beautifully haunting :(
Lovely explanation.
The power of storytelling
I know nothing of arts and paintings and literature but this is so aesthetically pleasing for the senses and very much interesting
lovely
great live and video!
this is beautiful
Complimenti . Il video è una gioia per gli occhi .
My favorite painting of all time 😍ain’t she beautiful
Да, потрясающая! Чудесная, так хороша! Я несколько раз ходил на выставку в Москве, чтобы смотреть..
I don’t like that the video is trying to say that Siddal was the one who wanted to marry later. Rossetti was ashamed of her origins because she was from a working class family and he was the one postponing the wedding. Also it’s very likely that she committed suicide as a result of depression and that it wasn’t an accident.
Hi! How are you?
In Korea/Seoul, the rainy season stopped for a while today. Looking at the clear sky, my mind was clear.
I hope you have good health and good things on weekends and holidays. Thank you.
This painting was recently just recreated in a music video called “Feel My Rhythm” by Red Velvet, along with other famous paintings
Who cares bout that
@@wein7107 apparently 12 people🤷♂️
@@wein7107 so?
@@wein7107 you cared enough to reply
@@wein7107 Many do
That painting is increadable...
Sweet Ophelia!
When young blood escapes
Vows that break
Go up, up away
- Zella Day ❤️
I have seen this painting and have been mesmerized by it. I couldn't look away. To this day it is still my favourite painting.
~ o-opheliaaa youve been on my mind girl since the floooddd ~~~ (and for some reason that song jusf gives me nostalgia?)
As a working Life Drawing model, I can tell you that she did not hold that pose for hours. She would have been in and out of that tub many times. She may also have done some of the pose on a chaise lounge.
The Pre-Raphaelites were obsessed with painting what they saw. so no chaise lounge for poor Lizzie.
Impressive! When Tate lent it to MAP (Museum of Art Pudong) as opening exhibition last year, I finally got a chance to watch it closely.
so that's where it was!! i went to the tate last year to see it and also the lady of shalott, and both were missing! glad you got to view it :)
S❤IMPLY GORGEOUS!
I've always loved that name . 🌹💗💓
Thanks!so happy to have access to this beautiful world of arts while I’m under lockdown in Shanghai .
I hope your okay. I heard the lockdown there was very cruel.
@@empandora123 Thanks!finally got from from 1 June
It's fine! Are you okay?
Recently read a Contemporary book entitled the ophelia girls by Jane Healey and thoroughly loved it
I'm a bit surprised at the mention that women had more trouble getting models for painting, you'd think it'd be easier for a woman painter to get female models, at least with their friends and relatives, was it an etiquette issue? Like what you mentioned about working women being looked down on.
A career as a well known female artist wasn't even considered as realistic back then, like the idea of it was laughable for many that believed men did everything better.
It wasnt appropriate to hire models for nudes and study the naked body. I dont know why but only for male artists it was considered okay to look at male and female naked bodies 🤷
We had the subject of nude painting at university and I learned that it was immoral for women to paint other women as nudes. They were not allowed to enter the hall with several men who were painting a naked woman. Sometimes there was also the phenomenon that women were given a cow to paint. In the 18th century, however, nude painting was a prerequisite for a successful career as an artist, which was one of the reasons why women had no chance to become artists. They were allowed as models, so to speak, but not as artists.
Linda Nochlin has written a fascinating article about this, if you are interested in this topic. :)
No, that is Joy
No they just recreated it for the mv
I've always live dthis painting yet I haven't read hamlet. I've only seen ut performed and then she was barely in it
What a painting.. amazing. She is extremely beautiful whatve rthe standards of the day but this use of oil is just incredible to me. To paint a dress floating in water like that it's one I could stare at for hours
Millais lived for few years on the Gloucester Road SW3 London.
I live very close to where the great Preraphialite was born...every time i walk past i think of... OPHELIA...
❤
dope.
Who does the narration find her voice really soothing perfect asmr voice
was at the Hogsmill River in Surrey yesterday Looking for Ophelia pool..
💙💙💙❤️
🖤
I wonder if the music video for Nick Cave's song Where the Wild Roses Grow was inspired by this painting?
It is.
💝🌷
Hi! How are you?
There has been no rain in Korea/Seoul this year. With this severe drought, I'm worried about farming and many other things.
I hope you have good health and good things for the rest of the week. Thank you very much.
0 rain?? Not even a little?
And now this week has been very rainy!
@@adeponol yep!
who is the photographer? it looks beautiful
It's like outdoor living for that woman in the painting. I wonder men today are still inspired by this painting.
I'm from the UK. I have a 84x60cm framed print of this painting. I think the picture is somewhat bland but it fills up blank wall space alongside my other pictures.
I like Ophelia 😘😍
What are the bibliographic references used in the video?
Oh Ophelia , you’ve been on my mind girl since the flood .
What is that painting at 5:27 in the lower right corner?
Could you mention the name of the artist at the center at 5:20?
It is kinda shocking. But we have the same face. I stumbled on this video by curiosity. while i was busy processing Siddle's story, this image appeared leaving me awestruck.
Jeez I'm oil painted holy shit whaaaaat.
Ik It's unbelievable but just trust me on this. I have got to find the actual painting.
Please mention the source when you get time, or anybody in the comment who knows.
Thankyou! ✨
Hi! I don't know if this'll really help, but the work you're looking for appears to be titled 'Ophelias', and is the collaborative work of Rahi de Roy, Astha Patel, Pranshu Takore and Savitha Ravi (according to the credits of this video and the website of the Tate Museum). Platform-mag and Openclosemag have both written articles about the artistic process behind this piece.
Dang
damn she just like me fr
My daughter is called Ophelia
the painting used to scare the shit out of me when I was a kid
Omg it’s my pop.
That’s not what happened, it took so long for her to get married because her lover was kind of a ladies man who even cheated on her With his other models.
Ophelia is the most beautiful woman in the world 😘. I love her ❤️, she's owner of my heart 💕
Who’s here because of Red Velvet
Red Velvet? Anyone?
Feelya tater
As an artist myself..I think it represents the possessive self obsessed Rossetti...& A delicate flower...a true Greek tragedy..!! Thanks for the post 👍
3:17 Anyone knows the painting title?
Джордж Фредерик Уоттс «Найдена утонувшей», 1850 год
@@user-wn7kv3bg3i Thanks! Had to translate it but helped big time! Title is Found Drowned, GF Watts, c. 1850
The ears in the water hurts me 😭😭😭
I’m getting wild roses by nick cave and Kylie Minogue vibes… I wonder if they based the video off that painting?
One would think that a frame with a curved top be a better option.
Oh, Ophelia! You been on my mind, girl, since the flood!
You sound like Caitlyn Kiramman
from Arcane.
reminds me a lot of bladee tbh
good museum. pretty sure my dad took a mug from your restaurant
Hamlet does not break up with Ophelia because he thinks she's impure. He just goes on a rant about how much he hates all women and tells her to join a nunnery.
Molly Jean everett
“Ophelia” el ser humano, la modelo es más inspirador que el cuadro , claro el cuadro es bello pero la vida de una joven artista llena de ideas es opacada por una sociedad y olvidada por muchas generaciones, por un bello cuadro.